Obama’s shocking admission about U.S. hostage killed in Pakistan reveals far greater scandal

Back during the Vietnam War, President Lyndon Johnson was directing bombing strikes from the White House. For those who understand the three levels of warfare — strategic, operational, and tactical — you realize this is a complete violation of principles of warfare. Now, I have no issue with the utilization of drones as a means to attack Islamic terrorists.

However, this is a weapon system best employed by the theater operational commander who has intelligence cognizance — not approved at the strategic level, especially as directed from the White House. What could be the unintended consequences of such action?

Deadly.

As reported by USA Today, “President Obama expressed “grief and condolences” Thursday for a January drone strike against suspected terrorists in Pakistan that accidentally killed two hostages, including an American aid worker. Obama said he took full responsibility for the operation and apologized to the families of the hostages. “I profoundly regret what happened,” he said. The two Western hostages — one American, one Italian — were killed during a drone strike that targeted members of al-Qaida, the White House said. They were Warren Weinstein, 73, an aid worker from Maryland who was a contractor for the U.S. Agency for International Development, and Giovanni Lo Porto, 39, an Italian citizen working for a German aid agency. Both were kidnapped by al-Qaida in Pakistan — Weinstein in 2011 and Lo Porto in 2012. The White House said the counterterrorism operation, and another this year in the same region, also killed two other Americans believed to be working with al-Qaida. In an extraordinary eight-minute statement to reporters, a solemn Obama halted at points during his brief remarks, looking down at notes. “I cannot begin to imagine the anguish that the Weinstein and Lo Porto families are enduring today,” he said.”

The first issue has to be, why is the family just now finding out about this fratricide by drone strike, which occurred in January? I thought this was supposed to be the most transparent administration in American history.

Of course there will be those who challenge the use of drones to target Americans – a la Anwar al-Awlaki who was killed along with his son in Yemen. It is imperative that we establish a policy addressing Americans who depart these shores and take up arms or propagandize against America supporting Islamic terrorists and jihadists. I assert that any American who leaves this country to do such and is engaged in operations against America on this battlefield, abdicates his citizenship and should be seen as an enemy. But, without a clear designation of this current conflagration — war on terror is a horrific misnomer — we are operating in murky waters. We need a definitive rule of engagement for these circumstances.

The two Americans killed supporting al-Qaida were Ahmed Farouq, an American who was an al-Qaida leader, and Adam Gadahn, who was also killed in a separate operation in January. Earnest said Gadahn was not the specific target of that strike.

President Obama stated, “It is a cruel and bitter truth that in the fog of war generally, and our fight against terrorism specifically, that mistakes, and sometimes deadly mistakes, can occur”.

I understand Clausewitz’s “Fog of War” but I also realize that something went terribly wrong in the decision-making authorizing this strike.

“The site of the attack had been under surveillance for hundreds of hours, and that surveillance was “near-continuous” in the days just before the attack, White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest said. The spying used a variety of methods, including drone imagery, and discovered a known al-Qaida operative driving into the compound, said U.S. officials speaking on condition of anonymity. Based on that intelligence, Earnest said, intelligence analysts concluded with “near certainty” that al-Qaida leaders were present and that civilians were not.”

What is apparent is that HUMINT intelligence assets were not used to validate imagery. Then again, why would anyone want to support U.S. intelligence gathering in Pakistan after how this administration has treated Dr. Shakil Afridi who assisted in the identification of Osama bin Laden’s hideout?

The preeminent question must be, who granted approval? If we are restricting drone usage to the U.S. military, it is fairly easy to ascertain the chain of command in the decision-making for this engagement. But, if this was not within the military operational command chain emanating out of Afghanistan — then we have a bureaucratic, administration issue.

And based on the lack of transparency and length of time before this was revealed, — it leads me to believe this decision came from the latter, not the former. And that ladies and gents, is the reason why the president of the United States took the podium.

USA Today states, “U.S. forces DID NOT know the hostages were at the al-Qaida site when the counterterrorism operation took place in January along the Afghanistan-Pakistan border, administration officials said.”

Uh-oh Kimosabe! The follow-on question has to be, did U.S. forces know this drone strike had taken place and the “suspected target” set? Was this strike coordinated with theater of operation intelligence assets?

Obama said he spoke to Weinstein’s widow, Elaine, on Wednesday. She released a statement Thursday saying she “did not yet fully understand” what happened and looked forward to the results of the government investigation. “But those who took Warren captive over three years ago bear ultimate responsibility,” Elaine Weinstein said. “I can assure you that he would still be alive and well if they had allowed him to return home after his time abroad working to help the people of Pakistan,” she said. “The cowardly actions of those who took Warren captive and ultimately to the place and time of his death are not in keeping with Islam and they will have to face their God to answer for their actions.”

I offer my sincere condolences to Mrs. Weinstein but she must understand that to the enemy her husband was a Jew and an infidel — therefore their actions are in keeping with the doctrine of Islam.

But adding insult to injury is the fact that the bodies of Weinstein and Lo Porto have not been recovered.

The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) is not exactly pleased with yesterday’s revelation. “In each of the operations acknowledged today, the U.S. quite literally didn’t know who it was killing,” said the ACLU’s deputy legal director, Jameel Jaffer. “Unfortunately, the president’s stated commitment to transparency can’t be squared with the secrecy that still shrouds virtually every aspect of the government’s drone program.”

Therefore, in the spirit of bipartisanship, I must agree.

Perhaps there are those who will just dismiss this story, but there is one very sad point. The Obama administration killed American and Italian hostages in January. We were just told in April. An American who prayed for his government to rescue him ended up being killed by it — and a family never knew, and will never have the closure of a funeral.

Unbelievable.

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Ben Abelly
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Incompetence. There is no “fog of war” when you’re sitting on your incompetent ass in the oval office or you’re anyone else, anywhere else, off the battlefield. “fog of war” occurs during battle. Nice try, barry.

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Sean Patrick Murphy sr

He had an extremely excruciating round of golf and was really concentrating on a tough putt at the time. He was preoccupied so, show some understanding.

Ben Abelly
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That’s called “fog of golf”.

bigal64
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Remember Allen, Drones good .. water boarding bad

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Sean G.
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If you like your health insurance you can keep your health insurance, just another lie people. There will be more lies in the future rest assured.

dbroms
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This is what we get when we elect a president with no military experience. This is Vietnam lessons learned 101. Why is the top brass doing such an awful job of educating and managing Obama?

Yvette
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Obummer has also ‘fired’ a lot of the top brass … the people who know what’s going on and the ones with the most experience.

cinda anderson
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dbroms,
It’s not the brass doing a awful job, it’s Obama never listening to the brass because he thinks he’s smarter than all of them. This is what you get when a arrogant man like O does as he pleases always! Look how he bad mouths Christians every chance he gets.

Guest
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This is infuriating! But not surprising. This administration DOES NOT CARE!! It is a SOCIOPATHIC administration. Unless they are forced they will reveal NOTHING. I just wonder about all the things we still don’t know about.

tcbarnabas
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I have not the time to read all of your articles (posts), but have you addressed (informed the people of) the fact that the “complacency factor” is one of the grandest tools that the Hussein Obama regime is using against America? It is absolutely one of the “easiest” tools to use against the American people because of widespread, blatant ignorance.

madmemere
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You spoke of the “complacency factor”; it’s quite notable obama/soetoro/sobarka never mentions the genocide of Christians, in the mid- east, committed by “his” muslim brothers. This month is also the 100th Anniversary of the Armenian Genocide (1.5 MILLION Christians) committed by the Turkish Ottoman Empire, in April, 1915. In spite of great evidence and witness testimony, the Turks still continue to “deny” it ever happened. Doesn’t that sound familiar?

Dorrie
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In the whole speech Obama made, he didn’t offer any praise at all to our military for taking out an entire infestation of terrorists, in spite of the accidental killing of the Italian and American. That is collateral damage, but he should have mentioned what a GOOD strike it was because it killed so many terrorists.

Brendan
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It wasn’t a military strike.
It was a CIA strike and he did praise them

newyorkgroov
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I sincerely feel for the families and those westerners that died.

That being said, this is a “supposed” war on terror, and in war, these things happen, even with these moronic pin – prix style attacks.

Precisely why we will never fully engage the enemy with this imbecile.

He will probably put his head back into its shell and cut back on even the drone strikes now.

android
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My problem is that the feckless One just announced to our enemies around the world that human shields will prevent him from acting. [cue kidnappings]

Jeff Nicholson
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Are we being told this in April in order to distract attention from something else?

Shoathree
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Makes me wonder who was going to leak this information that now forced Obama to admit to it? I have a lot I would like to say about that failure living in our House but can’t right now. My heart and prayers go out to the families of those that were killed. I can’t even imagine how they must feel right now knowing they lost their loved ones and knowing NOW that they actually lost them in January and our Government knew all along. The comment “The cowardly actions of those who took Warren captive and ultimately to the place… Read more »
akatom3565
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Maybe they had to wait for Hillary to delete any other info on her hard drive before the announced it!

karyn
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He traded 5 top Al Quaeda leaders for one treasonous Muslim loving traitor, but accidentally allows the killing of a Jew and probably a Christian. No big deal for him.

Uncle Ruckus
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And bush released 500

Brendan
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More ASSumptions and ignorant attacks from West. Mr West… you seriously suggested we do some eyes on HUMINT gathering before any air strike? Are you insane? Do you want to drop, and later extract, a LRS team in the tribal region of Pakistan every time we pick a target for an airstrike? Sometimes when you make crazy suggestions, like gathering HUMINT on every target, it’s hard to believe you were ever in the military. Either you know what you are saying is lunacy and you are just saying it to fan the flames of hate against Obama by any means… Read more »
MJRAWL
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Another idiot barry butt sniffer!

Brendan
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You’re a sad little troll.

MJRAWL
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You are a POS,

T Saint
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Brendan, You want to make comments of ignorance and calling those on this site dummies, You liberals will throw anything to distract. What in the World does Operational Security and Intelligence have to do with the Obama Admin withholding information from the families and the American people. He didn’t exercise you comment “operational intelligence gathering when Bin Laden was killed. So why would that have anything to do with it here. You an idiot. Why don’t you go to a website that like you Obama because certainly no one here does. By the way Obama does enough by himself to… Read more »
Brendan
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You’re a moron. You know nothing of the military or intelligence gathering and comparing this drine strike to the Bin Laden raid is beyond stupid. I do not presume to lnow exactly how keeping this strike quiet may have been useful to gathering intel, but I did give one plausible scenario. As to your question wherein you asked why we didn’t keep the Bin Laden raid quiet…. Where you tried to imply I don’t know about intel gathering…. Do you honestly not see the difference in the operations. Forget the importance of the Bin Laden raid. How the hell did… Read more »
Bill Bailey
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So Brendan Nolastname ex ground pounder knows more about Military Intelligence than Allen West who spent 22 years doing exactly that? Why don’t you write your own blog instead of pissing on somebody else’s parade?
And starting your comments off by insulting people does not prove how intelligent you are.

Brendan
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A few things… First… you chastised me for resorting to name calling… because i referred to another poster as a moron… yet you disregarded that I only did that because I was responding to his insult where he called me an idiot while ranting about a subject he knows nothing about. Of course, you have no criticism of him for initiating the insults. Second… Your defense of Allen West from any criticism is weak. Either you just blindly defend him or you know as little about the subject as he does. Your defense that i should not correct him because… Read more »
Bill Bailey
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First your very first comment here was an insult. “Brendan • 2 days ago More ASSumptions and ignorant attacks from West.” Second I support a man that writes here using his whole name and record, so people know where he is coming from, a lot sooner than I believe somebody who is not willing to identify himself but seriously expects people to believe he knows more about anything than a Lt. Col. in the U.S. Army. Third as an enlisted man you may know more about doing human intelligence, but I seriously doubt you know more about using human intelligence… Read more »
Brendan
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Yes… I know more about gathering HUMINT and the types of mission that he was talking about than he does. Not only is that a fact because of my years vs his years, but also based on his own ignorant words. Yes… you are correct that a Lt Colonel in the Army has access to much more knowledge that an NCO…. but not about this. Allow me to illustrate my point with a simple analogy… One man is a man with multiple degrees and PHD’s, who speaks a dozen languages, is an expert carpenter, electrician, plumber, has traveled the world,… Read more »
Bill Bailey
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What Mr. West asked here was why they did not use Pakistani HUMINT to check out the target. Who would have had it much easier getting to and checking the target. According to other sources there have been 3000-3500 people killed in Pakistan with drones, 2000 of them civilians. The only reason nobody cared until now is that these are the first western casualties. That is a totally unacceptable rate of civilian casualties. If there was a republican in office you would be the one jumping up and down screaming about why he withheld the information so long. Mr. West… Read more »
Brendan
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Now you are just making things up and also throwing fantastical accusations about how you imagine I would react in hypothetical scenarios.

1. You flat out lied and said that Mr West was asking about using Pakistanis to gather HUMINT. Not only did he not say that anywhere in the above article, he specified “U.S. intelligence gathering in Pakistan”

2. You are chastizing me for how you imagine I would react if this were a Republican President.
You are flat out wrong.
My feelings regarding operational security and withholding information from the public has nothing to do with political parties.

Bill Bailey
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This is the question Mr. West asked in his text above:
“Was this strike coordinated with theater of operation intelligence assets?”

You want to impress me quit following Mr West, and attempting to discredit and attack him all while using the anonymity of the internet. At least be man enough to use your real name and profile. Stand by your word or nobody will ever believe you.

Brendan
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Your compulsive need to defend your idol from any criticism is pathetic.
You ignore the points i make and, instead, say nothing I say can be true since i am not providing my full life’s bio… as if anyone here is.

If i point out, and explain, the absurdity of Mr West wanting to put a team on the ground, you won’t consider the detailed facts I lay out… you instead look for an excuse to dismiss anything I have to say… as though anything I said about gathering HUMINT should be ignored because you don’t know where i live and work.

Bill Bailey
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Actually I just hate seeing injustice done. You make no points, you make insults, and accusations. Your whole reason for being here is to discredit Mr West, who obviously has more moral courage than you and Earl will ever have. He is not my idol, but I do respect people who do not hide behind anonymous BS, who are not afraid of standing up for what they believe in. I believe you people are only here because you are truly afraid that this man may run for president and win. And then you and your muslim buddies may have to… Read more »
Brendan
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Injustice? Catching your hero lying is injustice? You think I’m scared that Mr West would run for office? Not at all… he will never run for national office because he knows that he will be called out on all the lies and smears that only a crazy minority believe. He is smart enough to limit his exposure only to media outlets that support him. If he ran for office he would have to explain his bullshit to outlets that weren’t his cheerleaders. He would be destroyed. True Conservatives are praying he doesn’t run because his insanity will stain the party… Read more »
Bill Bailey
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Do you have political aspirations?
You are very very good at talking without actually saying anything, and avoiding direct questions with indirect answers, accusations, and BS.

Brendan
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Sorry kid.
You not6 liking my answer isn’t the same as me avoiding answering them.
i told you exactly what I thought about West running for office.
Also… you just accused me of not answering you question.. but you didn’t even ask me any questions.
Read your own comment.
wow

MJRAWL
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Keep sniffing!

Uncle Ruckus
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You people are dumb….you will continue to believe a myth before you will accept a fact

Bill Bailey
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If any of you anonymous haters presented a fact maybe people would be able to believe it.

killer62
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Don’t waste your breath or typing time, T Saint It’s obvious Brendan is just another plant to fan the flames.

Brendan
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Sure.. anyone who points out Mr West’s stupidity is a plant… right?

madmemere
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And you two thumbsuckers think you know more about mid-east warfare then Lt. Col West, who spent some 20 years there. You only know what the lamestream media propaganda machine spouts and you are foolish enough to swallow it hook, line and sinker. Since you are such great fans of obama/soetoro/sobarka, stand in line; we can try you as traitors, right along with him. Better still, if you love socialism/communism so much, why not exile yourselves to North Korea, or Red China; they would welcome you with open arms.

Brendan
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I know more than Mr West and he didn’t spend 20 years in the ME

madmemere
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So, would you care to tell us about ALL your military experiences?

Earl Lee
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Is this the same Mr West that VIOLATED the UCMJ and was forced to retire? The same Mr WEST that lead his men into VIOLATING the UCMJ and those men lost rank and pay? The same Mr West that was RELIEVED OF COMMAND?? That Mr West?? A DISGRACE!!!

Bill Bailey
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West was charged with violating Articles 128 (assault) and 134 (general article) of the Uniform Code of Military Justice. During a hearing held as part of an Article 32 investigation in November 2003, West stated, “I know the method I used was not right, but I wanted to take care of my soldiers.”[20] The charges were ultimately referred to an Article 15 proceeding rather than court-martial, at which West was fined $5,000. So West was not forced to retire, was not relieved of command, paid one months pay, and no disgrace. But Mr. Earl Lee Nolastname knows everything about everything,… Read more »
killer62
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You’d best research some facts Earl.

Earl Lee
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so you are saying that didn’t happen??

madmemere
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Factually – Lt. Col. West’s CO, one General Odieorno, (a clintonista appointee) was looking for another star for his epaulettes and brought “false charges” against Lt. Col West. Odieorno AND the Army were “forced to drop ALL charges”! Look it up; it’s there, in black and white.

madmemere
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And you swallow the lamestream media propaganda BS too!l By the way, “when and where” did you ever serve?

Earl Lee
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So…when did a FACT become propaganda??? You don’t know and you never bothered to look it up! Everything I listed…HAPPENED you LOON!!!

Bill Bailey
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FACTs are the one thing you have none of. The only thing you prove by yelling and insulting people is how ignorant you are.

madmemere
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So, why the name calling? If you can’t stand facts, or truth, don’t get involved. And because you choose to “distort the facts” doesn’t make it real (only in your mind). Just so you know, he wasn’t “forced” to retire. The “upchain” didn’t like it because Col. West “protected his men” (the four guys who roughed up an enemy officer, in order to get important info); he faced a title 32 and was “allowed” to retire. You sound and act like the upper echelon; the ones who “prefer to sacrifice” their men!

Earl Lee
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DISTORT?? FACT: Allen was relieved of command. FACT: Allen faced charges. FACT: The men/women serving under the disgrace all received article 15’s, stripped of rank and pay! Sorry LOON if you can’t accept the FACTS!!!

Bill Bailey
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Again, West was charged with violating Articles 128 (assault) and 134 (general article) of the Uniform Code of Military Justice. During a hearing held as part of an Article 32 investigation in November 2003, West stated, “I know the method I used was not right, but I wanted to take care of my soldiers.”[20] The charges were ultimately referred to an Article 15 proceeding rather than court-martial, at which West was fined $5,000. And none of his men faced any charges, Col. West was in charge and took full responsibility for what took place. As any true leader would. When… Read more »
Earl Lee
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I’m sorry but go read the C.I.D. report…it list those men and women and the punishment they received. It also tells that Allen West let those men beat the prisoner for almost a HOUR before he lost his COOL!!

Bill Bailey
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Okay Mr Anonymous for those of us who don’t work at JAG how about you give us a link to the CID report?
If you continue to yell, swear, attack, and belittle others with no proof and anonymously then you are an idiot. And very few people are interested in what idiots have to say.

Earl Lee
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I found the CID report online…you go FIND IT!!

killer62
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So, what is this, Earl – a new comedy act?

madmemere
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Believe what you wish. Lt. Col. West served, honorably, for over 22 years and received numerous awards that attest to that “fact”. Name calling isn’t necessary; I realize it’s a “cover” for your own frustration at not being able to deny “real facts”. Again, you never did tell us “when, or where” you served.

Uncle Ruckus
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We have one that is THE COMMANDER IN CHIEF and Allen West is THE COMPLAINER IN CHIEF!!!

MJRAWL
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The so called CIC is a turd that needs to be flushed!

LittleMoose
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You don’t mean CIC, you really mean MIC (Muslim-In-Chief).

Bertha Gruntz
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Addlepate. Turn your computer off and enjoy your grubstake in your parent’s basement .

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jillocity
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your COMMANDER IN CHIEF got two hostages killed; after all he did say he took full responsibility; and waited over THREE MONTHS to admit it; i understand your fealty to 0bama, but don’t be surprised when people understandably find him at fault…ESPECIALLY in waiting over three months to let families know

Earl Lee
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WOW….you don’t read much other than Allen West LIES do you?

MJRAWL
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Ignore this POS!

Earl Lee
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They’ve been trying that for a while now….doesn’t work!!

jillocity
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WOW…everything in my comment was included in 0bama’s speech…did 0bama lie?

19gundog43
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What we have in the people’s WH is an anti-American, anti-Christian, Muslim-loving, closet homo sock puppet who is nothing but the house [email protected]@er to the Muslims.

Uncle Ruckus
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More Loon Myths

19gundog43
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The loons are sycophants, ideologues, profiteers, lemmings, moochers low/no-information voters and, to put it simply, idiots, who will support any left-wing liberal, moonbat politician, no matter how awful as long as they keep giving them free stuff and black. You know, YOU! LOL!

Earl Lee
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If black people are getting FREE STUFF…i must have missed it! MUHAHAHAHAHAH I LOVE LOON MYTHS!!!

19gundog43
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Like Obama-phone, ADC, food stamps, obamacare. rent subsidies, childcare. What a buttwipe!

Earl Lee
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So your opinion of black people is that they get all of those thing?? None of them work???

Bill Bailey
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Do you?

Earl Lee
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I get nothing along with the majority of black people….stop believing MYTHS!!!

Bill Bailey
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I don’t need myths, I am intelligent enough to check the statistics. Black people make up 13.2% of American society, they receive 39.8% of the welfare paid out.
Do you really want me to continue playing myth buster for you?

MotherBatherick
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Wassup with the obama? He’s not looking too good these days. Could be that his dark soul is starting to haunt him. Second thought, nah…I’m not buying it. He has no soul. And we’re all still waiting for him and hillary to fess up and take responsibility for the murders of four of America’s finest in Benghazi.

Macker
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You’re right! He IS awfully skinny-looking…is it possible that’s attributed to his status as the Catamite-in-Chief?