Marines may be forced to lower standards to appease Obama

Recently we reported about the results of female Marines seeking to complete the Marine Infantry Officer Course (IOC) — ZERO — as well as female Marines attending Infantry Training Battalion, School of Infantry-East. We also compared that with the Army and females being allowed entry into the Ranger Training Assessment Course (RTAC) and that twelve will be going onto Army Ranger training.

Well, it seems the Marines have drawn the ire of the Obama administration via the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, General Dempsey. That’s just not the result Obama was looking for.

As reported by the Washington Times, “Two years ago, Army General Martin Dempsey, the nation’s top military officer, laid down an edict on the Obama administration’s plan to open direct land combat jobs to women: If women cannot meet a standard, senior commanders better have a good reason why it should not be lowered.

Today, the “Dempsey rule” appears to have its first test case. The Marine Corps just finished research to see if female officers could successfully complete its rigorous Infantry Officer Course. The IOC diploma is a must to earn the designation of infantry officer. Of 29 women who tried, none graduated; only four made it through the first day’s combat endurance test.”

“Marine Corps public affairs said it did not have the data on which tasks proved the toughest for women. But one particularly demanding upper-body strength test is climbing a 25-foot rope with a backpack full of gear. A candidate who cannot crawl to the top fails the test. Traditionalists see the 0-29 performance as a call to arms by those inside the Pentagon who are determined to have significant numbers of women in the infantry. They are on the lookout for standards they believe are no longer relevant in today’s battlefield.”

“The pressure is on the services from the White House’s politically correct crowd vis-a-vis Obama’s Pentagon appointees, who will force the services to accept degraded standards,” said Robert Maginnis, a retired Army officer and author of the book “Deadly Consequences: How Cowards Are Pushing Women Into Combat.”

So will the U.S. Marine Corps be forced to justify why its IOC training is so hard? Will they have to go before the Sanhedrin of the Pharisees of political correctness and explain why anyone needs to be able to climb a rope with a full gear pack? Will the Commandant of the Marine Corps be called into General Dempsey’s office and be forced to explain every single standard of the Marine IOC and justify its existence? Will the Corps be forced to surrender its standards of excellence?

“General Dempsey laid down the law this way: “If we do decide that a particular standard is so high that a woman couldn’t make it, the burden is now on the service to come back and explain to the secretary, why is it that high? Does it really have to be that high?”

Am I making this stuff up? Sadly, no.

“Capt Maureen Krebs, a Marine Corps spokeswoman, said the ongoing review of standards is a double-check to make sure each one is specific to a particular job, is relevant to the operation and is “gender-neutral” — meaning each one must be the same for men and women. “We’re looking at all of our standards for the ground combat arms right now to ensure that they hit all three of those requirements,” she said.

There you have it folks, we are moving towards a military that is gender-neutral — the objective of social egalitarians. To them, the military is just like any occupation. Everyone should have equal outcomes and equality of access regardless of the mission. Anything else just isn’t fair.

What is not fair is that we have a bunch of absent-minded civilian ideologues who want a ground-breaking, historic moment. You can just bet there will be a female to pass Army Ranger School — and she will be on the cover of Time magazine, all over the mainstream media, and of course will get a Rose Garden ceremony. Recently I spoke to a young man, an Infantry officer, who was to attend Ranger school but was told there wasn’t an available slot. I wonder why?

ISIS is beheading Christians and driving civilians from Ramadi. Meanwhile, the Obama administration is questioning the standards for the Marine Corps Infantry Officer Course.

Unbelievable.

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Herbert McKinney
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Would you please, please, please run for president?!!!

Uncle Ruckus
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Would you stop asking.. The man knows he can’t win

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jizzgargling chimpanzee!!!

Uncle Ruckus
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Wowwwww

Herbert McKinney
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In your mind, who could?

Dan Crocker
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Don’t assume Ruckus has a mind….

Herbert McKinney
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And your point is?

majorwiblit
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and your name is?
that was for uncle…

Dan Crocker
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He probably doesn’t want to lower himself to that effort.

Frank Szabo
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West is quite the honorable man. That being said, the DC establishment would have him dead 10 minutes after he announced. The elite in DC do not play well with outsiders.

Our country is far beyond being repaired by a simple election.

Uncle Ruckus
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You know he was a congressman and ran to be re elected right??

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niggerboonbitch!

Uncle Ruckus
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Wow

Dan Crocker
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You DID pass the fifth grade! Perhaps there is hope for your kind after all…..

Dan Crocker
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True enuf.

Uncle Ruckus
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So the presidency is below Allen west?? You LOONS are funny

Frank Szabo
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How about you quit being black for a while and start being and American? Too much for you to handle?

Buttwipe.

Uncle Ruckus
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MYTHS!!

Dan Crocker
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Don’t resort to name calling when your failed ideals are questioned. It lowers you as a person and makes you look like a stupid inbred.

Uncle Ruckus
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In this case LOONS fits perfectly

Dan Crocker
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Isn’t it time for your paper route?

Howard
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Embracing the social experiment that is attempting to be forced upon the Corps is gonna get Marines dead. This at the same time that they are out processing battle decorated Marines in favor of chair warmers that have no tattoos. Ridiculous!

Steven Landskroener
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These treasonous cowards do not care about American lives in battle, they care that the “disaffected” feel good that they were able to enter the ultimate “Men’s Only” club…the Infantry. Combat effectiveness be damned!

Dan Crocker
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Well said. Unfortunately, those who think like me and you are now in the minority.

Steven Landskroener
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Sadly, I agree. Women do well in MANY military occupations, and make no mistake, there were MANY women would could out run me while I was in the Marines. But, running in PT gear is far different from the day to day activities of an Infantryman. Most former Female Marines I know completely agree that women do NOT belong in the Infantry.

Dan Crocker
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Agreed. Has to do with upper body strength. Women can take punishment make no mistake and they can be emotionally strong. Could you endure childbirth? No, me neither.

djmc993150
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It goes beyond upper body strength it has to do with their physilogical ability to endure long term physcial demands and depleted nutrition that is endured by infantry in austere patrol bases.

C. Merose
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Also bone density. It has been proven that prolonged stress (daily duties) causes stress fractures in women. This is fact.

djmc993150
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239 years of combat history.. Theres the Marine Corps justification.
Continuously deployed and in combat for nearly every year since the Spainish American War.. there’s the Corps justification.
Iwo Jima, Chosin, Pusan, Inchon, Peleliu, Guadalcanal, Tarawa. Those are the Marine Corps justification.

Dan Crocker
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It’s a ‘new’ age and we are dinosaurs in it….

djmc993150
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And the people we fight are dinosaurs disinterested or who hate the new age…

Dan Crocker
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History shows us that ALL empires eventually fall. And the process usually starts from within…

djmc993150
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Everyone says that. Whats the evidence? Italy (Rome) still exists as an independent country. Russia still exists as an independent country. Mongolia still exists. Persia (Iran). Ottomans (Turkey). The UK, France (Gaul/Frankish Kingdom), Prussia(Germany), Austria, Spain, Portugal, etc etc all still exist. Borders change, leaders change, maybe even governments, but practically no empire has ceased to exist. Even Mexico (Aztec), Inca (Peru, Chile), and so one still exist. Its a rare event for an empire to completely disappear or fall, I can only think of a few – north American Indians, and some of the pre-Roman era kingdom in Anatolia… Read more »
Graham Thordarson
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Yeah, and the Beatles still exist because Paul McCartney is still alive. Can’t wait for their next album to drop.
And of course, the Celtics of the 60s are still the NBA Champions because Tommy Heinsohn is still breathing. Those guys are unbeatable!

djmc993150
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Yeah that’s total the same. Exact examples, wow you got me with the most well thought out completely relevant and equivalent examples of completely transient irrelevant disparate groups of people and comparing them to centuries long governmental and socially tied nations.. Yes totally the same thing.

C. Merose
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LOL and your example of ROME still existing as a country is valid? Good lord, go do some reading. The Roman EMPIRE is what fell you moron. We have seen our better days and the United States unfortunately is crumbling under the weight of the progressive left.

djmc993150
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And I am sure you believe the roman empire fell in 476 too. The Persian empire has fallen and risen at least 3-4 times depending on how you count it. up until the 50’s it was still called Persia. Does that mean Persia doesn’t exist simply because at one time, or three times, it fell? Did Persians cease to exist, does the country that is Persia, now Iran, not exist as an independent self ruling state. Is Italy not one self ruling independent state that controls almost as much – and in some case more than it did after the… Read more »
Dan Crocker
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One example: The Roman Empire. Much smaller today. Oh heck here is another: The Russian Empire. A whole lot smaller these days. Oh heck, here is one more: The British Empire. Much much smaller today. They didn’t completely disappear but they all took a HARD fall.

djmc993150
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Also depends what date you wish to ascribe as their right size. The Russian empire has been much much smaller than it is now. It didn’t even have a black sea port till the late 1700s. The Polish Kingdom dominated Ukrain while the Crimean khanate and the ottomans held them in place to the west and south with the Swedes holding them in place in the north. The Romans barely controlled all of Italy and not all of Sicily when they fought the first and second punic wars. The English Empire, if you trade what it held in france for… Read more »
Dan Crocker
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Wales Scotland and Ireland are now independent and no longer subject to the British Empire.

djmc993150
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Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland are still integral parts of the United Kingdom and DEFINITELY not independent. I don’t know where you get that from. Scotland in fact just rejected trying to become independent.

djmc993150
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Smaller, but they aren’t dead. Falling pretty much means gone in my book, but whichever. Either way, we don’t need to be stepping on the gas pedal toward the cliff.

Dan Crocker
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Falling doesn’t necessarily mean dead and gone. It just means you took a hell of a beating – socially, financially, and/or geographically speaking.

djmc993150
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Many empires took the same hits while they were empires. So yours is kind of an arbitrary standard. The Byzantine Empire was literally taken over then re-rose after the 4th Crusade. The British were taken by the Normans, then King Charles I was beheaded, Cromwell took over and the monarchy was restored after Cromwell died. The muslim caliphates repeatedly reorganized against upheaval and huge losses and conflict, going from the Ummayyad to the Abbasids, than being nearly destroyed by Timurlane, than restoring only to be taken by the ottomans. The whole time they were still an ’empire’ that extended into… Read more »
Dan Crocker
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There ya go. More examples of history repeating itself .

rsticks
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What is General Dempsey’s excuse for being a pc jerk?

Steven Landskroener
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His pension matters more to him than the negative legacy he will leave future war fighters.

akatom3565
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They think if you lower the standards you do something other than lower your standards. They want social justice warriors not warriors !

Jeff
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As of now, the USMC is unbeatable. Maybe Obama wants the Corp beatable.

Steven Landskroener
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He wants the whole of the US “beatable”. So how do you do that? You lower standards for Infantry and Special Operations. Weaken their war fighting abilities.

Dan Crocker
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And also teach them to apologize whenever possible to appease their enemies.

IRightULeft
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General Dempsey – unfit for duty

Nola76
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The Marines are NOT the same as the Army. No offense to Uncle Sam’s Army, but the standards of becoming a Marine is slightly different than becoming a basic grunt.

Dan Crocker
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It’s why I didn’t join the Army. The thought of digging my own grave every night (foxhole) didn’t appeal to me.

Paul Sheridan
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Marines dig fighting positions though right? I’ve seen them. Never dug a full on foxhole during my time in the Army. I’ve built a few hide sites and dug plenty of Ranger graves though.

Dan Crocker
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‘Fighting positions’, bunkers, graves, etc. Call them what you will. Semantics..

Paul Sheridan
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I call it cover and somewhere to rest my elbows while I put rounds downrange. Don’t recommend digging one on a ship though. You might get a little wet 🙂

Dan Crocker
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Ah a forward air controller eh? True enuf. That flight deck was kinda hard to dig through.

Paul Sheridan
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Nah, regular old grunt 11B. Spent most of my career in reconnaissance though so I know my way around an E-tool.

Dan Crocker
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Thank you for serving.

Paul Sheridan
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Thank you as well.

Uncle Ruckus
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Your didn’t join because you are a COWARD

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Obamascocksucker!!!

Ben Abelly
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Troll.

Dan Crocker
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10-4. Unfortunately a troll with a keyboard and internet access…. a bad combination.

Uncle Ruckus
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LOONS with s internet connection is worse

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jiggaboo!!!!

Dan Crocker
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About your paper route….. time to get on that isn’t it?

Dan Crocker
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No, I joined the Navy instead because I liked aviation. Did you serve inbred?

djmc993150
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so how the f—would you know what Marines do, dont you have a head to swab..

majorwiblit
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truly Unbelievable…….

kiluma
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Dempsey is a disgrace. The joint chiefs have never had a more spineless ‘yes-man’ among them.

Dan Crocker
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What do you expect? He is following the chain of command and his Commander In Chief is Obama.

djmc993150
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Actually no chain of command is an excuse to carry out an illegal or immoral order. it is incumbent of and the responsibility of EVERY officer to do what is right regardless of consequence or who gives the orders. The military officers are NOT nazis and dempsey’s slavish obedience to orders would be atocious and dismissal offense to you if it were a policy you didnt like you political hack.

Temporary ID
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This is what happened when the UK lowered the bar for firefighters (think Police Academy). It’s long but well-argued: http://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/2015/04/subversive-thoughts-about-the-oxford-and-cambridge-boat-race.html

Chet
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Dempsey and Mullan are men without Honor. They are low life Kool Aid drinking politicians. They covered up Bengazi and stood silent. Petraeus is also part of that circle. Every Marine should have his rifle and a thousand rounds of ammo and be prepared to act.

Paul Sheridan
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“Gender neutral” is what we want right? The rope doesn’t care what kind of genitals you’ve got. The rucksack weighs the same regardless of whether you sit or stand to pee. The standard is to climb the rope with the rucksack on. If you make it then welcome to the team, if not then better luck elsewhere. I’m not in favor of setting standards arbitrarily high or low but if the Marines have decided that upper body strength is a requirement to be an infantry officer (makes sense to me) then that’s the standard. Meet the standard or find a… Read more »
Dan Crocker
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I saw it in law enforcement and the fire fighting services back in the early 80’s. The standards were reduced so that women could qualify. You ended up with less qualified cops and firefighters and people died as a result. But you won’t read about that in the liberal media because it doesn’t support their agenda.

Big Blue DadEo
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Howz bout Dempsy, Krebs and anyone else who is pushing this agenda lead and deploy with a platoon of “gender neutral, lowered standards infantryPEOPLE to some FOB in Afghanistan. You wanna place a bet – use your own money

Dan Crocker
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RHIP. Won’t happen because of RHIP. General Patton for example didn’t believe in RHIP and showed it.

Howetexas
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All the real command quality officers have been fired by BO and his hinchman. The military is the last bastion of America’s greatness and it is the target for destroying America.

Dan Crocker
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History shows us that all empires fall. The process usually starts from within. History will repeat itself if we let it. And we are letting it.

Uncle Ruckus
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More LOON MYTHS

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mOON cRICKET!

C. Merose
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Please explain how what Dan said is a Myth? Which part particularly? Looks like you didn’t get any type of education. Do a bit of reading and come back. The only thing you can do is call people names. What are you, 12?

palehorse58
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Why don’t you go and stick your head up your ass and wiggle your ears, because that’s all you are good for.

freedixie
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Put the crack pipe down.

Dan Crocker
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YOUR PAPER ROUTE! Get on it!

Paul Sheridan
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I know several excellent officers who are still serving. Despite what you may have read there have not been massive numbers of officers dismissed from the services.

Dan Crocker
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Maybe not but those you mention are holding their cards close to their chests.

Uncle Ruckus
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LOON MYTHS

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NIGGERBITCH!

JustLurkin
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As trolls go, you’re not very bright, are you?

freedixie
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Liberals never let the facts get in their way.

Dan Crocker
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About your paper route…… are you going to get that done or am I going to have to call your truant officer? Your choice.

mr2491238
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The marines are an elite fighting force to be feared, if women can’t make the cut so be it!

DocRod
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I do know that one of the worst things that can happen to a Muslim is to be killed by a woman. That will prevent them from entering heaven. I think women need to find their effective place in the military and do some serious killing. Female fighters are seriously feared my Muslims.

Dan Crocker
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In a perfect world yes. This ain’t one.

Sara
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From a female perspective, I would be embarrassed to be that woman who got the Rose Garden Ceremony and was presented on the cover of Time Magazine if I only got that position because standards were lowered for me. That wouldn’t actually be an achievement. We need to keep our strength and leave it to those who truly pass the rigorous tests with the high standards. We don’t need this much change. I miss the old America. This is also sort of reminding me of the division Obama caused among different races during the Ferguson problem. Those striving to keep… Read more »
Dan Crocker
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Well said. Unfortunately you and those who think like you do are fast becoming the minority.

Jerone A. Bowers
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There is no such thing as gender neutral. The vary word gender would suggest that their are differences. That is just biology. They do still teach that right?

Personally I do not care who is in the fox hole with me as long as they can pick up my 215 lbs and run out of the killing zone. Lowering the standards to satisfy some gender neutral mandate is pure BS. They are called standards for a reason.

P-39D Airacobra
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Personally I do not care who is in the fox hole with me as long as they can pick up my 215 lbs and run out of the killing zone I was 135 pounds as a male while in the Army Infantry and if your lead a*s was in the kill zone while mortars, artillery or small arms fire was hitting, guess what, you’re staying there. A few of us would drag your fat a*s out of the area after we would get the shooting to die down a bit. Run to get you in the middle of a fire… Read more »
Jerone A. Bowers
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So you are saying you would leave the wounded where they fall? Not sure how the Army feels about that but the Marines are a little different.

Silverbullet Live
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“So you are saying you would leave the wounded where they fall?

No, I replied with this, “A few of us would drag your fat a*s out of the area after we would get the shooting to die down a bit.

You do understand we would return fire, maneuver, and then come back to drag your fat 215 pound frame to safety, right? Then we would medevac you.

Yeah, yeah, yeah… you were a marine… good for you. Obama does not care. Neither does 90% of the American people.

Jerone A. Bowers
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You have a lot of anger issues you need to work on your people skills a little bit. I never get angry, never get in pissing contests and only judge people by their character.

I cannot say with any degree of certainty that Obama cares so that is immaterial. Not sure where you are from guessing either east or west coast but probably New York. Your 90% statistic is not valid.

Have a great day and chill.

PARAX
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My son began Army Ranger School on Sunday. He is part of the group that will have the first females going through it. He explained the whole process to me and what is expected of him. I cannot imagine a female being able to complete all the requirements. There is also a lot of concern about the females being pushed through whether they can meet the requirements or not. It also sounded to me like they will cut the numbers along the way for various reasons. (He seemed to think they have set number of how many can get through).… Read more »
Sue Hogan
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I’m a women and I don’t believe women should be in combat either. Plus, having a women say one, in your platoon, she is vulnerable to being abused. It happens, a bunch of men under stress one female……plus a liability, men have each other’s backs, but she could put them in harms way by being physically unable to do her job.

texal37
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I totally agree……there is a good reason the sexes are so different. If we were just alike just how boring and redundant life would be! I love the differences!

toma kay
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Next he’s gonna rename them mammyrines. This chump meddles he knows nothing about which is basically everything he meddles with.

John
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Of course Obama supports lowering the standards so everyone gets in – that is how he got in college and the WH.

lakefire
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Obama has no more clue about this subject than any other subject he talks about. The JOB of a leader is to ASK the people that know about the subject what is best NOT to think his answer is always the right one. How can Obama know about what any service is about, he has Never Served !

banger377
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obama is out to rebuild the armed forces with people that will be loyal
to him. He is using homosexuals, and the unqualified unqualified, to
drive out those who are loyal to Truth, Justus, and the American way.

The
fastest way to fix this is to get rid of the “All volunteer Army” and
go back to the draft, with 1 year of training and 1 year active duty.
Pay for that with a tax free status for 10 years for every draftee.

Vladimir
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Yeah that would fill the ranks with a bunch of qualified people

banger377
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It would go back to being a cross section of America, which is still mostly Christian. The all volunteer army was great, but that was when the unqualified and deviants were kept out. It’s still good, but obama is purging the ranks. In 2007, wasn’t a female tech Sargent thrown out for posing in playboy mag? Now homosexuals are allowed to be openly homosexual, while in uniform. Pretty fast turn around since the “dear leader” became president, don’t you think?

Dennis Mirante
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Continued pussification of America.

Leadrunner
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Hey, let them in, and first, no time off during “period” time, and secondly, first time they got a soldier killed because they were physically weak, court martial their ass and see how they like the brig or stockade.

Strategic CPL USMC ن
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Strategic CPL USMC ن

So Military Operations in Urban Terrain (MOUT) when Marines have to assault a building through a second story window, or from the rooftop downwards are the female Marines just going to take the stairs rather than climb with their gear? The United States Marine Corps has an unparalleled reputation for combat success, in my opinion anyone from the Commandant on down that acquiesces to this ill informed drive to include females in combat units is unfit for command in the Marine Corps. Lowering the standards will result in more casualties.

Luckyca
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No, she will have to make one of the other marines carry her gear for her.

Luckyca
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I knew this shit would happen! I have seen it in the police force. I have no problem with women joining in any of the standard or special forces units. I have a serious problem with the requirements being lowered to do it. They should be able to pass the exact same training and meet the exact same standards as the men. Not lower the standars or training just to have women pass. I have seen police forces lower the requirments for the women because they have a quota, they must hire so many women during the training, so the… Read more »
tomsellsrvs
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I recon “she” will be the baggage that the “man” has to climb up the rope with, Thankful “she made it up” Now go back down and get the gear while I catch my breath.

Corvette lyn
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GOD bless our country We have a lot in front of us to get back to a lot to get rid of and a lot to correct. Start with no Hillary there’s a start get back to high standards on everything stop the amount of time the govt stays in their places lots of change will stop them from taking from us. They were to work for us not against us. They are to be held to the same as we so what rules the choose are for them too. There’s a mother good start…..this pres.will screw us before he… Read more »
Uncle Ruckus
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The only people that believe this crap are YOU LOONS!!!

Heartland Patriot
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It is my hope that someday you are placed into a situation of extreme danger, and that due to political correctness, you get what is coming to your worthless hide, you sorry leftist piece of trash.

freedixie
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The only ones who do not believe it are moronic, brain-dead libturds like you.

palehorse58
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AMEN

Uncle Ruckus
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Its funny that you LOONS believe that you are the majority

Vladimir
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I can bet that I have more ammo than you…Watch your back….

Amos
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Liberalism is the downfall of this country, but I think after seeing the results of the last mid-term elections, the voting public is starting to see it’s devastating effects.

Hartbreaker
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Would not matter. Being in the majority does not make you right. And using substandard equipment when quality equipment is available is just plain stupid. If they cannot meet the standards and we have enough people who do meet the standards, why should we accept less qualified people who might put more qualified people at risk helping them? If someone is carrying my unconscious body out of a burning building, I would certainly prefer it if the person does not have to stop three times on the way out to catch their breath. And I certainly don’t want that person… Read more »
Women
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when are the ideologue going to understand that a women is simply different than a Men. What is wrong to be equipped with the gi

bj03064
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“Equality of access”? Yes. ANYONE should be able to take the test.

Equality of outcome? NO. If you can’t carry the load, you fail. Period.

Robert Parkhurst
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That’s a major difference between liberals and conservatives.

Conservatives believe that everyone is equal at the starting line.

Liberals believe everyone should be equal at the finish line. It’s pure socialism.

GomeznSA
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Hey barry, when are you going to DEMAND that the NBA (finals time and all) lower their standards so that someone like me can achieve my ‘dream’ of playing on a championship team. After all, I shouldn’t be ‘penalized’ for being too short, too slow and unable to jump. Having performance standards is just so ‘unfair’.

bois234
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In big business, you can easily have 29 applicants in a row not meet the qualifications for a specialized position within the company. You keep looking for that qualified one. Not lower the standards that others have met in the past.

Tuta
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Obama should go and pass the Army Ranger School, lower the standards for him… let’s see what happens. If he passes, well there you have it.

djmc993150
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Well he did rapelle in and personally kill OBL, as well as was right there with Brian Williams and defended him against an entire Iraqi armored division.

sockrayblue
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He’d have to rely on his past training in the Chicago bath houses.

Edward Conley
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He couldn’t make it through 2 days of boot camp.

palehorse58
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That would be an ugly sight!

Uncle Ruckus
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No he shouldnt

jlenoreb
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Why give him more infor to give to the enemy?

SAR
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What is sadder than me wasting my time to read this? The ongoing bias that goes on today esp. from our leaders in the USMC.

demsaredelusional
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So you would prefer to weaken our military by putting political correctness ahead of excellence?

Hartbreaker
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The bias in favor of strong capable fighters over liabilities in combat? Is that the bias that saddens you so?

EBizGuru
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Or perhaps it’s the thought of fending for oneself that creates the melancholy. Oh wait, that would require taking responsibility for oneself … my bad …

palehorse58
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The military is not a social experiment.

Heartland Patriot
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It is to the Democrat Socialist Party.

AlanfromNY
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If the standard is lowered for women to take combat positions, then why shouldn’t the Army accept men of any age who can pass the same test women can pass?

palehorse58
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What happens when they are carrying 100 pounds on their back and they have to go up a mountain slope in the rain and for every step forward you lose two backwards. What do they do then say hey buddy can you carry this for me???

Steve Nachlawi
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funny u should mention that…the IDF has a single mixed infantry “lite” unit and that is exactly what happened one night…..the men carried not just their own equipment but the womens as well.

palehorse58
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I have a friend that was in the 82nd airborn and during a night op in panama that is what happened to him. Like he said 1 step forward and you slip 2 feet back. Took them all night to reach the ridge.

TDG
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One step forward and two steps back? How is that going to work?

Gordon Waite
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If colleges are forced to lower their academic standards in order for a particular minority to take the slots of more academically qualified individuals what difference does it make if the weaker sex are allowed to take the slots of stronger men? When you open the floodgates there is no closing it.

Phuq Obama
Guest

General Dempsy is a traitor to the United States putting political correctness before the needs of the country.

Mike Viall
Guest

Allen, thank you for being so real. Never stop.

SafeRanger
Guest

Or perhaps the reason I’m missing here would be that fighting MEN in other countries, their BEST Men, is why we need OUR BEST Men, fighting back! Mostly men have the endurance and FORTITUDE to overcome horrendous evil odds and Win. When we lost, it was due to political reasons, not our willingness to fight and overcome!

palehorse58
Guest

Any and every war that the US military fights , they win. Until the politicians stick their noses in.

David Chappell
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This is the reason I choose not to stay in the army. The let weak minded people be leaders and only cared about kissing a higher ranking officer but. I am Vietnam veteran and saw so much of this I decided to get out instead of making a career of the army. I wished we had officers like Col West when I was in and I would have stayed in. I believe all military personnel should meet a standard. The enemy don’t care if your a woman or not they just kill if you not ready. So lady’s if you… Read more »
palehorse58
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The military is not a social experiment. It is meant to kill and destroy, not be baby sitters for people who can’t make the grade.

mrhorsefly
Guest

USMC 76-80 3/6….20-25mi. force march in full gear, the last 5 at doubletime was commonplace for a rifle infantry co.

palehorse58
Guest

Amen to that. I had an argument with a nephew about that. He thought I was full of shit. This is exactly why you can’t have women as grunts. I’m not against women in the military but the powers to be should take their heads ot of their asses.

Jonathan Burns
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As a British person I am worried, because any PC rubbish other militaries come up with our idiot politicians have to copy.
Despite British Army tests a few years ago proving virtually no women would qualify for infantry positions, the current thinking is the military is too “macho”.
Yes folks the military needs women in combat roles they can’t do to make the military less “macho”.

Adam Gipson
Guest

I think it’s funny that he said the first female graduate will probably get a rose garden ceremony. Yet, I distinctly remember a Marine Corps recruiting poster from when I was younger that pictured a DI and said “we don’t promise you a rose garden” lol I guess we do now. SMH

1630
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This isn’t like putting female heads onboard navy ships. It is a lowering of standards for America’s infantry elites….not for any compelling military reason, not to address shortages of manpower, but to fulfill gender equality pledges that have nothing to do with national security. In 20 years in the service, the best junior officer I worked with, and the best admiral I worked for were females. It has nothing to do with brainpower, integrity or courage. But the infantry and special forces have a lot to do with physical prowess including brute strength. It’s foolish to insist that everything is… Read more »
usaok59
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If the standards can be set so women can complete training, what about the men who want to complete it but can’t? In life all things are not fair. Live with it whiny people!

sootheater .
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It’s all going to be very balanced and fair when they end up in body bags!

sootheater .
Guest

Who has the “war on women” now eh Democrats? What exactly do you except to happen here? That ISIS will be nice to female soldiers who can’t carry their own packs?!

former Air Force S/Sgt.
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former Air Force S/Sgt.

The fathers of those girls will not be happy to see what ISIS will do to their daughters if captured. If they are allowed to lower the standard and let the women pass anyway, the end results will weaken our military readiness.. Those politically correct folks who have never served in the military should be careful of what they wish for and are pushing! Running the military should not be left to “community organizers!”