MSNBC Poll Asks Viewers if Hillary Should be President, Backfires BIG TIME

Poll numbers are tricky indicators. Depending on how the question is phrased you can get completely different answers. And of course you can stack the respondents a certain way to get a desired answer.

Which is why this new MSNBC poll is so…interesting.

A Rasmussen poll indicates 57 percent of likely voters think Hillary Clinton will be the next president. But that doesn’t mean they actually AGREE with the whole idea.

In fact, according to this MSNBC poll, the overwhelming majority of respondents are NOT planning on voting for her.

poll results

The poll on MSNBC’s website appeared on Tuesday morning and currently shows that 86 percent of respondents would NOT vote for Hillary Clinton. Only 13 percent said they would and just two percent said “maybe.”

Of course the poll is “unscientific,” but I can’t believe it’s only conservative trolls who are stacking the deck on MSNBC’s website.

However, feel free to cast your vote here.

H/T PJ Media

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Paul Hayes
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OUCH!!!

dboz555
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So the majority of people say they will not vote for her, but think she will be the next president. that should be a warning sign to our government that the people do not think the government is listening to the people.

android
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As scary as the idea of another President Clinton is, I can’t help but remember the horror that was visited on us the last time we focused on ABC (anybody but Clinton). Although I can’t imagine anyone worse than Baraq, I sure hope the R’s are prepared to run FOR something in 2016.

Christopher Edward Nelson
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Christopher Edward Nelson

I fall into the described majority here. I DO think she will be elected. I’m NOT voting for her.

frank96740
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Since NBC (MSNBC) Is a butt kissing LEFT leaning, bias ‘news network’ one would think that most people responding to the poll would be sympathetic to their silly questions. PERHAPS some on the left are a tad smarter than we give them credit for and now REGRET their LAST dumb mistake?

MNJfenner67
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That may be wishful thinking …I think it’s more likely that they just don’t think H> is left enough. They thought O was…and he couldn’t even make them happy.

Robert Wade Umbach
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So if she does win does that mean that Bill will become the First Man.

wooly
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I prefer First Chucklehead. Or First Dude.

dnhook
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First Gigolo.

Ben Abelly
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First PIMP.

Jimmy Cullifer
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Just think of all the dead people that will come back to life just to vote for Hillary in 2016!

Malka Kideckel
Guest

Excellent point Robert Wade Umbach

Fyayldt
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Just goes to show you that Americans know that elections are rigged just like in the other Communist countries.

Jason Sparks
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BOGUS!! You can’t divide their 6 viewers in any way to get 86%.

Bailey Nix
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Yeah you can remember democrats believe fair voting laws mean 15 votes per person on their side, and that they have the consent of dead people’s votes as well

Beedogz
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As Obama’s Secretary of State, Clinton was one of the three Obama aides most responsible for the illegal pre-emptive war in Libya. (a violation of the War Powers Act).

“We came, we saw, he died,” she gloated after the U.S. helped depose dictator Moammar Qadhafi.

This regime change, like the one she supported in Iraq, left a power vacuum that has been filled by chaos and murder. Libya has become a terrorist hotbed and an Islamic State foothold.

Killary at work.

Rafael X
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“like the one supported in Iraq” LOL you really think you can pin Iraq on Hillary? Hope to God that guy named Bush doesn’t run.

Rafael X
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I can’t wait to hear what conservatives have to say about their own candidates.

Earl Lee
Guest

Ok…3 are in…CRUZ (doesn’t stand a chance) Rubio (doesn’t stand a chance) and Paul (doesn’t stand a chance)

Rafael X
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Jeb is not officially in yet?

Earl Lee
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He hasn’t announced yet

Secretsquid
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MSNBC is pretty liberal. But I don’t believe the 86% poll. She will automatically get 47% without even campaigning.

Rafael X
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Reminds how Romney had much more lawn signs.

Forthwith
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Yeah, and sadly for the USA they didn’t work…eight years of nothingness…

Rafael X
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I know democracy sucks.

wooly
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It’s not a democracy, it’s a REPUBLIC.

Lou9999
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I am actually starting to believe that.

roghel
Guest

What democracy? You are witnessing the end of it. Maybe one day you can move into Sharia territory. Coming to a town near you! Yeah!

Forthwith
Guest

Yup, EBT’s and free cell phones and ACORN are really a part of the democratic process.

majorwiblit
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The Lifeline program began in 1984, during the Reagan Administration. It was expanded under Clinton and the first cellular program began under George W Bush in 2008 under Tracfone. The Lifeline program only covers monthly discounts on landline or wireless telephone service for eligible consumers. They are implemented at state and federal levels. Criteria can vary from state to state but in general participants must have an income that is at or below 135% of the federal poverty level. The program is not directly subsidized by tax payers monies, It is paid out of Federal Universal Fund through a fee… Read more »
gjsmith_62
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Then end the free phones.

John McMickle
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You need to be around when they are handing them out. They set up in a parking lot. Fill out an application get a phone. The Government does not cross reference who has one. As a result people end up with more than one. There are now possible 1700 companies providing those phones. From Snopes: “A number of web sites touting Lifeline benefits and imitating the look of government web sites have sprung up on the Internet, but those sites are privately operated ones created to promote the sales of cellular services and have no official connection to the federal… Read more »
Forthwith
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Could be, but Obama’s circle certainly upped the ante, still visions of 2012 in Ohio and the masses waving their cell phones. And I remain unconvinced that there are no Federal funds funneled that way…

Rafael X
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LOL cell phones has been bought to the masses since the mid-ninteties at least.

majorwiblit
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majorwiblit
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could be… lol..
that’s what i like about being here,,

really doesn’t what you think,,,
this was and is the program…

majorwiblit
Guest

you’re still talking about free cell phones??
lol,,, that’s so 2011

Rafael X
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Party with the candidate of tomorrow.

Rafael X
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Acorn wasn’t around last cycle. Democracy is what it is. Look at yourselves.

wooly
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It’s not a democracy, it’s a REPUBLIC

manstrom
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Your lack of knowledge is astounding! We do not have a democracy, idiot, we live in a Constitutional Republic. Democracy is mob rule.

Wilkins Micawber
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Democracy is why the Democrats no longer control Congress.

Guest
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Next year they will or should I say 2017. The senate and white house at least. Embrace the suck you right wing puke The GOP’s biggest problem is that the Democratic nominee starts with 242 Electoral College votes, only 28 shy of the 270 needed to become president. There are 18 states and the District of Columbia that have voted Democratic in every presidential election since 1992, a total of 242 electoral votes: California, Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Illinois, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, New Jersey, New York, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Vermont, Washington and Wisconsin. That is compared to only… Read more »
Wilkins Micawber
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Oh dear, such an angry libtard!

Forthwith
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Yeh, it was, especially in Ohio, major swing state, c’mon it’s 2015…and you’re assuming rather than inferring that this is coming from an “R” wrong again, an “I”…

Forthwith
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It has from 2008 through the present…

Chris Fortney
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If we ever have a democracy let us know…… America is a Representive Republic. Not too mention that @ 2 Billion will be spent by the 2 candidates the next election. And what do we get for all that? Just imagine 2 Billion dollars to get saddled with a criminal like Hillary Clinton.. Yeah that would suck………….

Forthwith
Guest

More than cautiously optimistic that Hillary is going down…not necessarily in “Monica” fashion….

Rafael X
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She might go down. But I haven’t seen the candidate that will take her down yet. The choice will be between Bush 2.0 or Clinton 2.0. I know which one I’m most fond off.

Lou9999
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Nobody has taken Hillary down for quite some time. Nobody can get past her “cankles”.

Forthwith
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Good things come to those who wait… she will bring herself down…

Abby Sapp
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LOL …. she did that a while ago.

Rafael X
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No way. Too disciplined too focused. Someone will have to take her down. She got blindsided by Obama last time around. Wont let that happen again.

Forthwith
Guest

A quote from “Full Metal Jacket”: “she (paraphrased) has never had her ass in the grass, but she’s been in the rear with gear.”
Man, I love these “duels”!

Rafael X
Guest

Like you said time will tell.

Forthwith
Guest

Aye, that it will…

Forthwith
Guest

No problem with a woman President, is there an American Margaret Thatcher out there?

Kathy
Guest

Excellent post!!!

roghel
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Depends who the woman is. Chillary is NO Margaret Thatcher. She is a pure Socialist, who wrote her college dissertation on Saul Alinsky. Now, how about a real woman, like Margaret Thatcher?

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Rafael X
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Yup while conservatives are busy chasing the next Reagan or the next Tatcher they are calling Hillary candidate of yesterday.

Forthwith
Guest

Never mind Conservatives, how about realists? Reality is the “Neverland” of the far left… it’s not going out on a limb to predict that the US has learned an invaluable lesson from November of 2008, check a candidate’s background and credentials. Hillary won’t win.

Rafael X
Guest

There’s nothing left to check in Hillary’s background and credentials. She’s still leading. Maybe time to look at your backward policies. Might be what turns people off.

Lou9999
Guest

Hillary is still leading in arrogance, scandals (second only to the Obama Administration) and lies.

Forthwith
Guest

Wrong, perjury and the wilful disregard for American life in Benghazi. And who knows what else?

Abby Sapp
Guest

If you search the web you’ll find way more than you want to know about both of the Clintons. Because of what I’ve searched and found and reposted, my computer has been attacked by the geeks, but dammit!~ I’m way more ready than they know. I still be here, eh?

Earl Lee
Guest

You know that republicans have already debunked the benghazi thingy right???

John McMickle
Guest

You now Hillary illegally hid email right? You know that Obama and Hillary lied about what actually happened right? It was never a protest that got out of hand as the administration stated 5 days later when Susan Rice made the rounds on the Sunday talk shows. The attack used RPG’s and Mortar’s, neither one of which is carried around just for fun. Both are heavy to carry around just in case you want to attack something

Earl Lee
Guest

Cleared by REPUBLICANS! NEXT!!!

John McMickle
Guest

No cleared of any criminal wrong doing, They still lied. Now it turns out Hilary violated the law by not saving and turning over all her official email in when she left the State Department.

Keep clinging to that it was a protest that got out of hand. That was a lie and everyone knew it on September 12, 2012.

Earl Lee
Guest

When will you LOONS understand that NOTHING will come from this??? Benghazi has been turned into a political JOKE now….that’s all!

John McMickle
Guest

The only reason nothing will come of it is the criminal serving as the Attorney General. If she destroyed the records she should go to jail.

Forthwith
Guest

Who’s a Republican?

majorwiblit
Guest

Benghazi is always a crowd pleaser here…

Lou9999
Guest

I heard that you were a crowd pleaser.

Forthwith
Guest

You mean for wanting to know why Americans were not rescued? Methinks you and the ilk’s tune would be playing differently had it been yours on the ground at the building under attack. I had thought leftist liberals were concerned about life? Guess it, depends on the life.

Rafael X
Guest

Please your gazillionth select committees haven’t found anything and no one cares anyways. Exept the faithful masses of course.

Forthwith
Guest

You don’t care about dead Americans? Hmmm, I for one care…

Rafael X
Guest

Americans die everyday.

majorwiblit
Guest

did you care about the 60 that died under W’s watch???

Forthwith
Guest

I certainly do, under anyone’s watch, that just isn’t the topic at this time…by the way, have you ever stood a watch, I mean by that, “ass in the grass”? Your diatribe suggests otherwise…

Wilkins Micawber
Guest

What this country really needs to lead it is an unpleasant, ill-tempered 70 year old woman who had four employees killed on her last job and who replied “What difference does it make” when asked for details.

majorwiblit
Guest

There were ten terrorist attacks on U.S. diplomatic facilities abroad during W’s tenure — the most of any president in history — and eight of those occurred while Donald Rumsfeld was in office.
was that ok with you??

did you jump up and down when those attacks happened??

Lou9999
Guest

Zero ambassadors were killed under Bush.

nightflyer956
Guest

I did, Rumsfeld did not belong in the position he held. “you go to war with the army you have—not the army you might want or wish to have at a later time”— what a waste of oxygen.

gjsmith_62
Guest

Did you blame them all on a video? Nah, Bush!!!!

Wilkins Micawber
Guest

How many ambassadors were killed during Bush’s term and how many times were they lied about and covered up?

Ricktheprick
Guest

Hey Majordipshit, the difference with “W” is terrorist attacked us…we retaliated. Hillary’s office was told about the unrest in Benghazi and did nothing to support them…hence the death of 4 fine Americans. Maybe she was deleting her emails and just overlooked the urgent request for more troops..I don’t know, you tell me.

Daniel Hutchens
Guest

Absolutely untrue. Read the GOP-led House Intelligence Committee report. There was no stand down order. All available military support was given. There’s zero difference between Benghazi and the terrorist attacks that occurred during Bush’s term. The fact that you willfully overlook the House report is telling.

gjsmith_62
Guest

Well, except Obama and HRC blamed a video.

Keep lying it suits you well.

Daniel Hutchens
Guest

Yeah, the Bush administration never told a lie. You’re late in the day. “Nigh Eve”

gjsmith_62
Guest

BTW, is your whole shtick, hyperbole? Only democrats are racist? Only Obama lies?

gjsmith_62
Guest

Do try to keep up. Did Bush blame 911 on a video or jihadist Islam?

Can Obama even mention Islam as a factor, apparently not.

Face it, Obama despises the west, which is why he always sides with radicals.

One more simple question, why is it, the only “revolution” Obama didn’t support, was that against the terrorist state Iran? You know, the same terrorists who he’s “negotiating” with.

Daniel Hutchens
Guest

America has always negotiated with terrorists and dictators, despite any rhetoric to the contrary. And yes, sometimes I exaggerate, and sometimes I’m being tongue in cheek. But to critize someone for using hyperbole and then turn around and spew a piece of comic bookish nonsense like “Obama despises the west” is comical.

gjsmith_62
Guest

Really? So, besides Obama’s rhetoric, name a policy that is in keeping with individual rights and not helping every radical Islamist out there?

Is Iran a terrorist nation or not?

Name another administration to have negotiated allowing a rogue state to acquire nuclear weapons.

Oh, right, the rapist Clinton.

roghel
Guest

Difference is Benghazi could have been prevented! General Ham said he was going in. Obama had him step down. Wake up.

majorwiblit
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Two years, seven congressional committee investigations, 25,000 pages of documents, 50 briefings, nine reports, and at least eight subpoenas later,,, didn’t that come out??
and was proven to be BS??

Randy Brooks
Guest

Proven to be BS by who? Some Democrat appointees? Come on majordimwit, I know Kool-Aid is yummy, but truth is harder to swallow. Sorry for saying swallow and yummy in one post. I hope that won’t get forcefully put on a wedding cake or something.

Raul
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Their withholding evidence. I eraesed my personal emails…trust me.

Earl Lee
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LOON MYTHS!!!

roghel
Guest

You wish!

Earl Lee
Guest

You know the rest of america has accepted the Republican report that said there was no wrongdoing right?? You LOONS just can’t let it go can you!
BENGHAZI is a big business now! Just say BENGHAZI and you loons donate and donate but yet have NOTHING to show for it!!! MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Wilkins Micawber
Guest

Benghazi really does frighten you lib vermin doesn’t it? Good! It should!

Earl Lee
Guest

Really??? Those with common sense knows that all the reports said there is NO THERE THERE!! Only you LOONS hope SOMETHING will come up…but it never does…so you and the REST of the LOONS can KEEP HOPE ALIVE!! MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

Wilkins Micawber
Guest

A dead ambassador and four dead military personnel is only NOTHING to a degenerate left-wing moron.

Sunday Assassin
Guest

Oh look, it’s another turd in our swimming pool – or obviously Uncle ReRun is not bright enough to disguise his liberal presence on Mr Wests website – HoHum, same ol same ol!

The liberal stonewall has been effective 7 times – never has anyone been held accountable which is a hallmark of this administration- BOTTOM LINE – NO EFFORT WAS PUT FORTH TO SAVE THESE GUYS! Call it what you want but someone should be behind bars!

Earl Lee
Guest

Cleared in the republican report!!!! NEXT!!!

Sunday Assassin
Guest

So it doesn’t bother you at all that no one was held accountable? NO ONE?!??!!! Like I said, this administration has taken stonewalling to a master level. Thanks for being the turd in our pool!

John McMickle
Guest

Wasn’t one of Hilary’s talking points in 2008 who would you want answering the phone at 2:00 AM? Seems neither Hilary or Barack answered the phone period on September 11, 2012.

Guest
Guest

I ttok the poll and voted NO!

Danny Chaffin
Guest

I took the poll and voted NO!

Rafael X
Guest

Mee too, 8 times.

labandme
Guest

You Americans have gotta stop supporting these rich, arrogant, uncaring people who pose as leaders and find someone that has America’s (and the rest of the world’s) best interests at heart. Man oh man…

Matt Wright
Guest

No hillery!

hate hater
Guest

dramacrats are amazingly stupid

Uncle Ruckus
Guest

Stupid enough to WIN the last 2 elections!!!MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Guest
Guest
Conservatives, you are scum and you’re FINISHED in 2016 The GOP’s biggest problem is that the Democratic nominee starts with 242 Electoral College votes, only 28 shy of the 270 needed to become president. There are 18 states and the District of Columbia that have voted Democratic in every presidential election since 1992, a total of 242 electoral votes: California, Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Illinois, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, New Jersey, New York, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Vermont, Washington and Wisconsin. That is compared to only 13 states that have gone for Republicans in the last six consecutive presidential elections,… Read more »
Lou9999
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I would agree with you. That is why this country is going down the crapper.

Christopher Lee Hartsock
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Christopher Lee Hartsock

You’re in for a surprise.
😉

nightflyer956
Guest

there’s a lot of red on the US map when you look at states that have republican governors.

John McMickle
Guest

You realize that both Illinois, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Maryland and Ohio now have Republican governors. New Jersey also has a Republican Governor. So keep counting votes you may not have. In Colorado, Hickenlooper the current Democratic Governor barely won re- election, and is doing everything in his power to piss off the voters.

gjsmith_62
Guest

Just crown Clinton queen, jackass.

Brock Diego
Guest

Great. Another racist slave loving liberal. That’s right … The democrats never stopped fighting for slavery. They just found a new way to keep people on the plantation … Keep them poor, defenseless, and make them victims. Thanks, slave loving anonymous, hateful troll.

Uncle Ruckus
Guest

And who will beat her??? ALLEN WEST???? MUHAHAHA

Christopher Lee Hartsock
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Christopher Lee Hartsock

If he’s no threat, why are you afraid of him? 😉

Uncle Ruckus
Guest

Who’s afraid??? Inothibg to be afraid of.. Allen is only good for a laugh

Sunday Assassin
Guest

Yep, thats why you are here day after day posting on Allen West’s EVERY ARTICLE! Yeah, you’re not afraid!
MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Lou9999
Guest

At least you spelled “Allen” correctly.

Donna West Berryman
Guest

ok we understand you don’t like Mr. west, get over yourself,we don’t like you! go to Killarys site and kiss her ass!

Uncle Ruckus
Guest

So u admit that Allen wouldn’t stand a chance against her

Lou9999
Guest

You got most of the words correct. You are improving. Now, we have to work on punctuation.

Billy Bob Usn Ret
Guest

You seem to be the only one who knows Allen is running.

Christopher Lee Hartsock
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Christopher Lee Hartsock

I’m going to be here on Election Day.
At which point, you will still be shilling.

Uncle Ruckus
Guest

Remember this one….MITT WILL WIN IN A LANDSLIDE??? MUHAHAHAHAHA

Daniel Hutchens
Guest
Hee hee! I love a little comedy in the evening. You’re not fooling anyone, of course. It would be a lot more interesting if you’d actually respond to some of the particular points made by guest4455, instead of just slinging childish little insults. Yep, anyone with a basic grasp of US history understands that once upon a time, Southern Democrats were the main political home of pro-slavery, racist whites. Anyone with a basic grasp of US history also understands that at the Democratic National Convention in 1948, Senator Hubert Humphrey proposed some controversial new civil rights planks of racial integration… Read more »
wooly
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Horse pucky. Try reading something other than democrat party websites and troll training manuals.

Daniel Hutchens
Guest

Gosh. There’s a conveniently vague and personal-insult laced post, which ultimately says nothing at all. Where am I wrong? I’m not a Democrat, by the way, and have plenty of criticism for both parties. What I’ve been reading, for many years, is American History. But show me where I’m wrong. Show your legitimate sources. Strain and scratch and claw and reach deep inside yourself, and see if you can come up with something more mature than “horse pucky.”

wooly
Guest

You’re the one posting fantastic tales from D websites. The onus is on YOU to ‘prove’ your post is true.

Daniel Hutchens
Guest
Wooly, nothing I’m posting is “fantastic” or even vaguely controversial. It’s simple, commonly recognized history. It’s like if you said the “onus is on me” to prove George Washington was our first President. Please give me specifics. Which of the following points are you disputing?: At the Democratic national convention in ’48, Senator Hubert Humphrey proposed some new ideas for the party, which were anti “Jim Crow” and pro integration. The racist white southern Democrats, in protest, started their own party, the States Rights Democrats or “Dixiecrats”, and ran Strom Thurmond as their Presidential candidate that year. In 1964, the… Read more »
wooly
Guest

I’m saying you’d get a perfect zero on that were you in my history class. YOU may recognize these things as “commonly recognized” history but your saying it doesn’t make it so. Either show your sources or you’re spouting fantastic tales.

Daniel Hutchens
Guest

Tell me which part you’re disputing.

wooly
Guest

The part you posted. Until you can independently verify your sources for each of your “facts” they remain disputed. Show me where you got EACH of these statements.

Hope that’s clear enough for you this time.

Daniel Hutchens
Guest
You can read the Congressional record to see Humphrey’s speech and proposals in ’48. You can look at any voting record or history of American elections to see that the “Dixiecrats” ran Strom Thurmond as their Presidential candidate in ’48. I hope you’re not disputing that the Civil Rights act of 1964 actually passed. Again, you can look at voting records to see who voted for or against it. Again, look at voting history any time since ’64 to see which states vote Republican or Democrat. Are you arguing that the South doesn’t overwhelmingly vote Republican? Yes, wooly, if you… Read more »
wooly
Guest

Not my job. YOU are making claims, YOU are responsible for demonstrating their truth. Be specific. Post links to the exact things you’re claiming as truth.

The ball is in your court. I’m going to work now.

Daniel Hutchens
Guest

I already gave you perfectly reasonable responses as to where you can verify everything I said.

wooly
Guest

Let me help you out.

Claim: President Grant wasn’t really a drunk.

Source:
http://www.historynet.com/ulysses-s-grants-lifelong-struggle-with-alcohol.htmhtm

Claim: Hilary Clinton was born in 1947.

Source:
http://www.biography.com/people/hillary-clinton-9251306

wooly
Guest

The term Civil Rights Act is widely known but can you list the actual provisions of it? Can you find anything not from a tertiary (or further) source? Certainly with your extensive knowledge of history you would be able to pull something out which might actually be usable for a reference.

Daniel Hutchens
Guest
The main thrust of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was that it outlawed discrimination based on race, color, religion, sex or national origin. Is there a general point to your comments, or are you simply quizzing me about history in general? My original point was that the “racist” Southern Democrats at one point essentially broke with that political party. How are my sources any more “tertiary” than the fine examples you supplied for me? History.net and Biography.com? I included the actual transcription and audio of Humphrey’s speech. I included a New York Times article from 1964, when some of… Read more »
wooly
Guest

You listed Wikipedia more than once. That alone gets you a fail anytime after fifth grade. New York Times is a newspaper writing about things they read from others’ writings. Tertiary means three levels of reportage. A secondary source would be what the NYT read before they wrote their piece. Fail again. You provided one original source. The rest weren’t the same as you suggested I spend hours digging through. If you thought you knew where all of this information was why look elsewhere for it?

Daniel Hutchens
Guest
Yeah, instead of polishing the silverware, get to some meat and potatoes here. You’re trying to make me jump through hoops. But you know as well as I do that my original points were genuine. You know Humphrey gave that speech. You know racist Southern Democrats walked out of the party in protest and ran Thurmond as a “Dixiecrat” in ’48. You know the Civil Rights act of 1964 was passed. You know that after that, the Southern white vote went Republican. So instead of trying to make me dance, why don’t you sling some hash here? What’s your argument… Read more »
Daniel Hutchens
Guest
I understand that Wikipedia is provided by individuals, etc. But some of that material is perfectly valid and thoroughly footnoted, etc. That was just one source I provided. What exactly would you consider acceptable sources? What newspapers would be considered valid as opposed to the New York Times? (And please explain how any of my sources are inferior to Biography.com). And again, instead of just dancing around the edges of my comments, why don’t you provide some substance of your own? What do you have to say? Again, you’re just quizzing me about style, at this point, over substance. Make… Read more »
wooly
Guest

Newspapers are at best secondary. You claimed all of this could be found in the Congressional Record. Why not try there?

You’re still responsible for proving what you claimed. Your assertions are drifting too. You originally claimed the racist democrats became republicans and now you’re apparently trying to show us that the Civil Rights Act really did pass. Either back up your claims or stop making them.

Daniel Hutchens
Guest
I’m not trying to “show [you]’ that the Civil Rights Act “really did pass”! I would assume you know that. The only reason I did any of this “providing sources” for incredibly obvious things is because you kept asking me to. You’re dodging. My original assertions are these: Humphrey gave the speech in ’48, and the racist Democrats walked out in protest, then ran Strom Thurmond as the “Dixiecrat” Presidential candidate. The Civil Rights Act of 1964 was passed, supported by many Republicans, but championed by certain Democrats and signed into law by a Democratic President. Lyndon Johnson famously said… Read more »
wooly
Guest

Your statements are still not properly sourced. You can continue saying this is common knowledge but until you demonstrate the truthiness of these things you are j’ust saying.’

If you asked me to prove Washington was the first president I would have no trouble with that. Information like that’s easily sourced and I’m confident in my understanding of history. You should be as confident since you’re making strong assertions.

Daniel Hutchens
Guest
Okay, wooly. But have a conversation with me, instead of playing this silly game. Just pick out any of the points I made that you believe are not true, or I’m portraying inaccurately. My point is that by asking you to “prove” Washington was the first President, I’d be dodging. I’d be avoiding the real discussion. And that’s exactly what you’re doing. If something I said is false, one of those points I defined in my previous post, tell me which ones. Your “properly sourced” thing is misdirection. Of course that’s required in a criminal trial or something. But that’s… Read more »
wooly
Guest
Playing a game? Are you having a problem with the way I’m engaging you? You made a claim. You haven’t demonstrated that it’s accurate. It shouldn’t be a big deal because if it IS true you can find it all over the internet. (Even on biography.com) If you can’t find reasonable references to demonstrate your claim’s truthiness, retracting it is always an option. Or you could search for it just a bit harder. You seem to want me to accept your word for all of this without being willing to establish a baseline of information that we both have reason… Read more »
Daniel Hutchens
Guest
That’s a pretty ridiculous depiction. I haven’t treated you with any disrespect at all. I haven’t insulted you in any way, and in fact I’ve bent over backwards indulging your requests. I’m not sure which statement you found “word for word on a website”, and I think that’s a distortion. I’ve said a lot here, and yes, some of it I’m quoting from other sources regarding statistics etc., but I speak for myself. You steadfastly refuse to address the substance of my points: ******* Humphrey gave the speech in ’48, and the racist Democrats walked out in protest, then ran… Read more »
wooly
Guest
1: I never claimed you treated ME disrespectfully. You have, however, treated many people who disagree with you here disrespectfully. 2: My mysterious sources include the Congressional Record and contemporaneous news reports. They do not include contemporary news reports. 3: “Put up or shut up”? Maybe you ARE being just a tiny bit rude to me. 4: Are you defending yourself while claiming not to be? Would you still think your statement wasn’t defensive if you replaced the word ‘conservative’ with ‘black’? Wouldya? Wouldya? Huh? Huh? 5: I did say outright that I was needling you. That should be a… Read more »
Daniel Hutchens
Guest

My friend, I guarantee I bear you no ill will, and yes, though I mean what I say, I’m having fun here. All I meant by “put up or shut up” was, if you have a source, or some information, tell me! But wooly, I appreciate the discussion and I wish you all the best!

wooly
Guest

I gave you your source. Now get to it!! Ten pages, double spaced, no larger than 11pt font. Due 17 April @ 10:pm. No extensions.

Daniel Hutchens
Guest

Sorry, Mr. Wooly, but I’m headed out of town for three days. But I’ll always remember your class. O Captain my Captain.

Christopher Lee Hartsock
Guest
Christopher Lee Hartsock

This lie, no matter how big it is, and often it’s told, does not resonate with people who can read the Congressional Record.

Daniel Hutchens
Guest

Show me where I’m wrong. Did the racist southern Democrats not walk out and run Strom Thurmond as their Presidential candidate in ’48? Was the Civil Rights act of 1964 not passed? Did the southern white vote at that time not shift to Republican? I live in Georgia, baby. Are you trying to tell me this is a Democratic state? It’s easy and childish to toss around the term “lie.” Stand up and prove it. What exactly did I say that’s a lie? Sources please.

nightflyer956
Guest

That is total BS, you must be getting your info from the grocery store check out line

Daniel Hutchens
Guest

Again, it’s simple and childish to just lob schoolyard insults. Show me where I’m wrong. Give some actual facts or even relevant opinions. F minus for zero effort.

Guest
Guest

Congressional records, you low-information chimp.

gjsmith_62
Guest

Care to name the last senator to have been a KKK member? Yeah, he died a democrat in 2010.

Jackass.

Daniel Hutchens
Guest
gjsmith_62 …and how does that in any way refute what I said above? Answer: it doesn’t. There have been plenty of racists in both parties, and I never suggested otherwise. But again, everything I said above is true. Every word. But unquestionably, in modern America, the bulk of pro-civil rights legislation originates from the Democratic party, and the bulk of discriminatory legislation (including anti-gay) is authored by the extremist wing of the Republican party. Prove me wrong. Show your legitimate sources. Bring it, baby. I can’t wait. Why do you think modern day minorities vote overwhelmingly Democratic? Is it because… Read more »
gjsmith_62
Guest

Refute? One senate democrat switched parties, care to name another?

Keep lying.

gjsmith_62
Guest

The only party to have used the gov’t against its people are democrats. It’s too funny you can’t name a GOP KKK Senator, but facts and democrats are like unicorns.

Uncle Ruckus
Guest

That’s all you can come back with??? MUHAHAHAHA

gjsmith_62
Guest

Yeah, facts suck when you’re a lemming democrat.

Nast had you morons pegged over a hundred years ago, by describing the jackass party perfectly.

Jackass.

Uncle Ruckus
Guest

Has nothing to do with 2015

gjsmith_62
Guest

Who was the last KKK Senator?

Care to name a single GOP KKK senator?

Idiot.

Uncle Ruckus
Guest

Still has nothing to do with 2015

Daniel Hutchens
Guest
gjsmith_62–– And you know very well that what I said is true: after the ’48 Democratic convention, the extreme racist wing of the Democratic party jumped ship, and landed squarely in the Republican party. This is a matter of history. And in modern times, all politicians are too savvy, regardless of their at-heart bigotries, to be associated with a career-killer like the KKK. Robert Byrd’s open KKK associations were in the ’40s. No credible politician would associate with them now. But that doesn’t mean racism doesn’t exist, or isn’t politically promoted in other more subtle ways. But here’s what’s more… Read more »
gjsmith_62
Guest

Keep lying, loser. Every senate democrat (save one) who voted against the ’64 CRA died a democrat.

Of those, more than half were replaced by democrats and to this day, democrats support institutionalized racism.

Do yourself a favor and learn the facts.

Grutter v. Bollinger, the only civil “right” with an expiration date.

Daniel Hutchens
Guest

And again–what’s most important here is that we unite against prejudice in all forms. I know you strongly oppose all anti-black, anti-gay, etc., legislation, in all forms, no matter which party authors it. Correct?

gjsmith_62
Guest

Perhaps you should have started your posts in this manner instead of lying?

Anti-homosexual? So, there are laws the GOP has sponsored akin to not letting homosexuals ride the front of the bus?

Good Grief, you are a jackass.

Daniel Hutchens
Guest

“Jackass” again! Congratulations! You must be approaching orgasm.

gjsmith_62
Guest

Mascot of the democrat party. Nast personified democrats of yesteryear and today.

Daniel Hutchens
Guest
It’s really tiresome how you have to keep slinging these little schoolyard insults like “loser” and “jackass”, but I guess that’s all you’ve got. But I have to tell you, you’re just making yourself look more and more pathetic. Stick to the facts and the subject at hand. Once again…don’t know how many times I can say this…I never said there have never been racists in the Democratic party. But if you’re trying to sell the bill of goods that there have never been racists in the Republican party, you’re either lying or you’re just incredibly naive. And I outright… Read more »
gjsmith_62
Guest

Your ignorance is appalling. So, somehow, after 1948, every racist democrat switched parties? Why must you lie. Every senate democrat that voted against the ’64 CRA save one died a democrat and more than half were replaced by democrats.

Deal with facts, idiot.

Daniel Hutchens
Guest

“Idiot”! Whoop de doo for you!

Read some history about 1948. I’m not making it up. I didn’t say “every racist Democrat”, and again, I didn’t say there have been no racist Democrats. But after the ’48 convention, yes, there was a general shifting of the extreme racist Democrats out of the party. They were displeased with some of the anti-racism planks proposed by Senator Hubert Humphrey. This ain’t rocket science. It’s simple history.

gjsmith_62
Guest

Try naming names and do the research yourself instead of spewing talking points.

FACT: Only one Senate democrat switched parties. Of those who voted against the ’64 act, save that one, died a DEMOCRAT and after their deaths, (yes into the ’80’s) were replaced by DEMOCRATS.

Are you stupid or just playing stupid while posting?

Daniel Hutchens
Guest
You’re being disingenuous. If you want to get into a blow by blow analysis of the 48 convention, the Dixiecrats, and the fallout afterward––culminating in complete loss of control by “Southern whites” of the Democratic party during the civil rights struggles of the ’60s…we can do that. The passage of the Civil Rights act of 1964 was a climax of converting deep South whites to the Republican party. This is all history. The point is, of course, that you’re saying that today, here and now, the Democratic party is perpetuating racism, and I challenge you to show any evidence of… Read more »
gjsmith_62
Guest

Then, you should be able to name more than one senator who switched parties, put up or shut up.

Does Grutter v Bollinger not produce results when googled?

LOL

Ditto Affirmative Action?

LOL … yes, you’re a moron.

Daniel Hutchens
Guest

Geez. “Moron.” Congratulations. I’ve gone over the history with you satisfactorily. ’48 convention, Dixiecrats, etc. Culminating in the ’64 Civil Rights act, and the loss of “Southern white power” in the Democratic party.

I’m still challenging you to show me how today’s Democratic party promotes “institutionalized racism.”

And yes, I’m familiar with Grutter v Bollinger, as well as Affirmative Action, but I’m not sure what your point is, in context of this discussion. Try to clarify without the schoolyard insults.

gjsmith_62
Guest

You wonder why insults are used, it’s because you’re dense.

Affirmative Action is racist law.

Passing law based on race is racism. Forcing everyone to conform, is institutionalizing it.

You really are pretty stupid.

Daniel Hutchens
Guest
My friend, you started using insults right out of the gate, and have continued uninterrupted right up this most recent post. It has nothing to do with me. I’m not forcing you to rely on schoolyard insults. Such behavior could easily be interpreted as a lack of debating skill, at the very best…and at worst, as a sign that your ideas can’t stand on their own merit. Why don’t you just debate the ideas? What are you so afraid of? What’s your real name? What are you hiding? Where’s your evidence that the Democratic party promotes “institutionalized racism”? Saying the… Read more »
gjsmith_62
Guest

“many people think affirmative action has been a positive force in our country”

Perfect display of the democrat mindset, the ends justifies the means.

Is Affirmative Action racist, yes or no?

Why not answer simple questions?

gjsmith_62
Guest

The facts are, democrats are the party of institutionalized racism.

As for jackass, what’s the mascot of your party? Just how ignorant are you?

Daniel Hutchens
Guest

“Jackass”…”Idiot”…”Loser”…your posts are peppered with these little nuggets. Come on, you know what I’m talking about. You’re not describing anyone’s political party. You’re just acting like a petulant child.

gjsmith_62
Guest

Why not rebuke the facts of who supports institutionalized racism?

Why, because you’re a liar. Does Grutter v Bollinger even ring a bell? Or have the bats in your belfry, stopped the bell?

Daniel Hutchens
Guest
A few more insults! Congratulations! Is that what does it for ya? Knock yourself out, pardner, but meanwhile you still haven’t stated one relevant fact that supports any of your ridiculous claims. Here’s an example of a “fact”: Colin Powell’s former chief of staff Col. Lawrence Wilkerson stated that the Republican party is “full of racists” who only want President Obama out of office because of “the color of his skin.” He also said, “Let me just be candid: My party is full of racists.” Now, you can conceivably debate his motivations for those statements, or whatever. But it’s a… Read more »
gjsmith_62
Guest

LOL, so Powell’s opinion, is fact, but Jim Crow and affirmative action are simply “claims”?

Yes, you’ve proven yourself an idiot.

“Just like it’s a “fact” that racist Democrats walked out of the party in ’48.”

HAHAHHAHAHAA! IDIOT!

Who knew the democrats in the ’64 senate opposed to the CRA were simply misinformed. Why did they vote against the CRA?

Wow, you’ve taken stupid to a whole new level.

Daniel Hutchens
Guest

But yeah…it is a fact that the bulk of racist Democrats walked out of the party in ’48, started their own party called the States Rights Democrats aka the Dixiecrats, and ran Strom Thurmond as their candidate for President. Yep. That’s a fact.

Wilkerson’s statement (not Powell’s) is an opinion, but it’s a “fact” that he said it. I’m just trying to give you an example of “fact.”

Whereas “the Democrats are the party of institutionalized racism” is an opinion…and a ridiculous, unprovable one.

gjsmith_62
Guest

Keep lying, do you need the names of the democrats who voted against the ’64 CRA?

Wait, is math not your forte? Is 1964, before or after 1948?

Daniel Hutchens
Guest

I’ve told you several times: I never said there were no racists in the Democratic party. Who are you arguing with?

I’m saying, again, in modern America, the bulk of pro-civil rights legislation comes from the Democratic party. And the bulk of discriminatory legislation comes from the extreme nut job wing of the Republican party (which by no means indicates that ALL Republicans are racist.)

I wish you’d at least argue against what I’m actually saying.

gjsmith_62
Guest

Name the racist law the GOP has passed. Are you retarded?

Which party passes racist laws? The democrats, get it? Is Affirmative Action based on race, yes or no?

Daniel Hutchens
Guest

Ah, now I get it. So you’re saying “racist” in the sense that Democrats are oppressing white people? Good Lord.

gjsmith_62
Guest

Does using race as a criteria qualify as racism, yes or no?

Answer a simple question.

Daniel Hutchens
Guest

Here’s the dictionary definition of “racism”:

Prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one’s own race is superior.

So for example, no: affirmative action is not “racism”. It’s not based on the belief that anyone is superior.

But there are legitimate arguments for and against it, and particularly how it’s applied.

I wish you well.

gjsmith_62
Guest

BTW, noted: You never answered the question.

Try again.

Does using race as a criteria qualify as racism?

Are you related to Bill “depends on the meaning of the word, “is”, Clinton?

gjsmith_62
Guest

Good Grief, do you actually believe Affirmative Action isn’t discriminatory, based on race? REALLY!?

What’s worse, is the condescending attitude of those leftists who support it, yet deny facts, as though some, “other” is dependent on their benevolence.

Is the case law Grutter inspired, not a “right” with an expiration date? When do principles have expiration dates?

Daniel Hutchens
Guest

Your post here doesn’t even make any sense. But at least you got to say “idiot” again!!

Are you listening at all, when I say: I never said there have never been racist Democrats? That wasn’t my argument, ever.

gjsmith_62
Guest

BTW, get past your third grade education and perhaps take an English course.

gjsmith_62
Guest

There are racist democrats and republicans, but only democrats pass racist laws.

Daniel Hutchens
Guest

“Only Democrats pass racist laws” is a new height in absurdity. Proof? Sources please.

And what leads you to believe I might need to take an English course?

gjsmith_62
Guest

Good Grief, how many times must the words “Affirmative Action” be written before they penetrate the density of your head?

Daniel Hutchens
Guest

You know, from your point of view that may be obvious. But in a discussion that involved the KKK etc., I assumed, I think somewhat reasonably, that you were saying the Democrats continued to oppress black people. But now I catch your drift. They’re bringing down the poor white man. Hee hee.

gjsmith_62
Guest

Hee hee hee, using the law as a weapon is funny, at least to idiots on the left.

BTW, who was the last senator to have been a member of the KKK and when he died, what party did he belong to?

Daniel Hutchens
Guest

Um…didn’t we cover that ground about an hour ago? Didn’t I tell you I was never claiming there have been no racists in the Democratic party? You’re repeating yourself.

Like I just said in response to another of your posts, I disagree with your opinion about affirmative action, but I at least understand your objection.

Again, disagreeing and debating politics is a great tradition. It doesn’t mean either side is idiotic. I wish you well.

gjsmith_62
Guest

Fact, you support institutionalized racism.

And then wonder why epithets are used? LOL

Daniel Hutchens
Guest

“jackass” in context of your posts is a silly little insult. I think you can do better. And you might want to look up the definition of the word “fact” because your absurd claim is anything but.

gjsmith_62
Guest

Which word confounds you, institutionalized or racism?

Daniel Hutchens
Guest

Neither, and you’re well aware of that. I’m disputing your claim, and asking you to back it up with some kind of legitimate documentation. And I’ll say to your face: you won’t, because you can’t. Prove me wrong.

gjsmith_62
Guest

Who passed Jim Crow? Democrats. Which party continues to support institutionalized racism? Democrats.

Those are facts. Wait, do you think the GOP supports Affirmative Action?

Daniel Hutchens
Guest

Again, I’ve confirmed the history that extreme racists called the Democratic party home in the past. I never once argued that.

When you say the Democratic party “continues to support institutionalized racism”, then, yeah…I’m arguing. Prove it. Show one shred of evidence that supports your claim. Hint: calling me “jackass” doesn’t prove it.

gjsmith_62
Guest

Affirmative Action

Idiot!

Daniel Hutchens
Guest

Is this how you typically talk to people, day to day? If someone doesn’t agree with you they’re an “idiot jackass moron loser”? I would happily appear before a jury of our peers––you and I––and let them decide whose attitudes are “racist.” Your real beef is with Affirmative Action. That’s all you need to say.

gjsmith_62
Guest

You somehow believe using race as a means to test how gov’t should be involved isn’t racist?

Too Funny. And Again, what’s the mascot of the democrat party?

My “beef” is with people who believe the ends justify the means and would use the law as a weapon against or for Any race.

Then again, principles aren’t a forte of the left either.

Daniel Hutchens
Guest

Okay. At least this time around you stuck to the subject at hand, and gave some clear opinions. Thanks.

Except that the “mascot” thing is really reaching, and irrelevant to the real conversation.

I disagree with your opinion on affirmative action, but I respect your right to speak your mind. Disagreeing politically is a noble American tradition, and shouldn’t result in either party being called “idiot” or whatever.

I wish you well.

gjsmith_62
Guest

IMHO, anyone who supports the left are liars or misinformed.

You’ve proven the point, you can’t bring yourself to face the fact that democrats still pass racist laws.

Wilkins Micawber
Guest
Hillary Clintons Achievements: 1.) Whitewater Gate. 2.) Made $100,000 insider trading on cattle futures off a $1000 bet. 3.) Recieved the Margret Sanger award for aborting babies. 4.) Her girlfriend Huma is connected to Muslim Brotherhood terrorists. 5.) Defended a child rapist and laughed about it. 6.) $6 billion dollars from the State Department went missing. 7.) Covered up that the Ambassador to Belgium is a known pedophile. 8.) Threatened her husbands rape victims. 9.) Lied about being under sniper fire in Bosnia. 10.) Fined $300,000 under the Logan act for attending a Bilderberg meeting. 11.) Her law firm partner… Read more »
disqus_yq9xequyt3
Guest

sounds like the prefect Democrap to me

nightflyer956
Guest

Don’t forget the millions she had the State Department funnel to Bill for “speaking” engagements while she was in charge. http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/state-department-approved-215-bill-clinton-speeches-controversial-consulting-deal-worth-48m/article/2551428

Anton Chigurh
Guest

Well done, old boy!
(Fancy seeing you here.)

Anton Chigurh
Guest

“The primary victims of war have always been women”
-Hilarious Clinton

gjsmith_62
Guest

The lemming left will follow Obama , Hillary or any other moron over a cliff, only problem, they’ll force you into the car, “for your own good”.

Uncle Ruckus
Guest

And out are following a political HUSTLER with no political Future! MUHAHAHAHA

Lou9999
Guest

Is Al Sharpton running?

Uncle Ruckus
Guest

Allen is no better than all….both race baiters

Christopher Lee Hartsock
Guest
Christopher Lee Hartsock

As opposed to following a political criminal with no political PAST?
Have at it.

nightflyer956
Guest

You seem to be following him the most… are you Obama using an alias?

gjsmith_62
Guest

“And out are following a political”

LOL, learn English. In your case, fool is simply being kind.

“Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.” – Abraham Lincoln

Uncle Ruckus
Guest

They follow WINNERS!!! McCain??? Romney???? Muhahahahaha

John Kerry's Forehead
Guest
This is how they (Dems and media) get it done. Hillary’s camp is hiding her inability to relate to the general public behind this fake “no media, connect with the people” bull crap – the media, including so-called “fair and balanced” networks and Conservative and Libertarian outlets, have bought into the lie by continuously running the clips showing Hillary going unrecognized by some low-information fast food worker and the so-called journalists acting like paparazzi by chasing the Scooby Van just ringer a glimpsing her. Brilliant strategy by Hillary because of you look at the polls in this story, everyone thinks… Read more »
Xerocky
Guest

“How many Conservative, Libertarian, and Evangelical voters who think she is a shoe-in will stay home rather than choose a candidate they can agree with and vote?”

none?

Uncle Ruckus
Guest

And which republican do u believe can beat her??? Allen West??? Muhahahaha

dstudie
Guest

I’m betting on either Walker or another candidate yet to emerge.

Xerocky
Guest

Rubio, Paul, Cruz.

Earl Lee
Guest

all 1st term Senators…they will have to face the exact same thing that they complained about with Obama…so…NO, NO and HELL NO!!

dstudie
Guest

They could never do worse than Obummer. Nobody could, not even Jimmy Carter.

Bailey Nix
Guest
I’d vote him in over her..he’s a dumb one, but he’s honest at least..And he did have 1 great accomplishment in history..He’s the only president ever to get an Arab Israel peace treaty signed. No president of either party has made headway since. OK so he bungled everything else, but so has every president since him.. We need Clinton/Gingrich budget reforms , The post war middle class boom, The Reagan pride in America, the Monroe foreign policy, anti-trust laws strengthened, return and resurgent family businesses and farms, the return of liberty and respect to all Americans as envisioned in the… Read more »
Xerocky
Guest

they could all easily beat her though. easily at this point.

Earl Lee
Guest

they won’t get the chance

Christopher Lee Hartsock
Guest
Christopher Lee Hartsock

Bush, Walker AND Paul are all slapping her in swing-state polls.
>snicker

Maybe we’re a little sick of Obama-lites. Food for thought, since you’re on a diet.

Uncle Ruckus
Guest

Fox polls?? MUHAHAHAHAHAHA

nightflyer956
Guest

Hey how did your date night with Rafael X go ?? Must of be hard getting service, two trolls under a table.

nightflyer956
Guest

Bobby Jindal

dstudie
Guest

I think, in an honest election, my dog could beat her.

superdough
Guest

What happened to all of her twitter followers and facebook fans? Surely they all voted, right?

Rafael X
Guest

Nope some people live in the real world.

Xerocky
Guest

Most don’t really exist though.

John McMickle
Guest

Yes all three of them. She probably did not even get Bill’s, Chelsea’s, or Chelsea’s husband’s vote.

Uncle Ruckus
Guest

Who cares what a poll says this early….ONLY LOONS!!!

Christopher Lee Hartsock
Guest
Christopher Lee Hartsock

If it went Hillary’s way, you’d be here crowing like a loon. I’ve seen it.

Hillary 2016.
May I read that on a tombstone.

Uncle Ruckus
Guest

MITT WILL WIN IN A LANDSLIDE

Rafael X
Guest

Online polls are total bs. Just doesnt let the same computer vote twice. I voted from my my two computers at work. My computer at home my cell phone. My wife’s computer and her phone. My son’s computer and his phone. You get where this is going?

wooly
Guest

You’re a Kennedy voter?

Xerocky
Guest

No, polls in general are total BS. Regardless, the tone of Hillary’s campaign so far is falling flat. It’s simply a fact.

Lowell
Guest

Sure do get where this is going! Rafael X is a cheater! Sounds like you were the 13% all by yourself!!

Guest
Guest

Sure do get where this is going! Rafael X is a cheater!! You must be the 13% all by yourself!!

disqus_yq9xequyt3
Guest

yeah I am sure everyone has time to do stupid shit like that

dstudie
Guest

I think the Dems are running Hitlery to ensure a Repub gets elected.

Uncle Ruckus
Guest

Republicans thought they were going to win in 12…..nooe!! MUHAHAHAHA

sonjixx
Guest

oh you must be so proud of Obama..what a POS…Black America deserves better…or do they ??? Maybe if most of them got off their lazy welfare asses they would get some respect. every black American of African decent should wake up every morning and thank God for slavery in the US for without it they would be living in some village in Africa and the US would look like Moscow

dstudie
Guest

All I can say is if this lying murdering itch with a B wins, the country as a whole loses big time. Isn’t it time we the people won for a change? What this country needs is a good Christian Conservative to get us out of this leftist mess we are in.

Christopher Lee Hartsock
Guest
Christopher Lee Hartsock

How’d those mid-terms go for you again, troll?

Uncle Ruckus
Guest

Mid terms and national elections are too different things….LOON

Lou9999
Guest

Uncle Du-fess. For Christ’s sake…..at least you spelled loon correctly.

Dave Hillen
Guest

John Brown, that was funny!

JohnFalcigie
Guest

What is the author Michelle talking about when she says >>>”but I can’t believe it’s only conservative trolls who are stacking the deck on MSNBC’s website”
There is no such thing as a conservative troll, they are called PATRIOTS!!! Liberals are trolls

Earl Lee
Guest

HATRIOTS is more like it…you LOONS hate EVERYTHING!!!

Bailey Nix
Guest

no we love the Constitution
we love freedom
we love free speech
we love life
we love jobs
we love America
what we do not like is-
Communism/regressives
government spying
police state
48% on welfare repression instead of economic freedom
Unending immigration when 96 million already here can’t get a job.
condescending and elitist attitudes from the left that show who the real haters are, who the real tyrants are.Leftists calling political foes extremists ?So you hate half the population , wow how tolerant of you .

Earl Lee
Guest
no we love the Constitution we love freedom (unless it is for gays) we love free speech (unless you say something we don’t like) we love life (of the unborn only) we love jobs (but yet you vote for those that doesn’t) we love America (only parts of it that agree with you) what we do not like is- Communism/regressives government spying police state 48% on welfare repression instead of economic freedom Unending immigration when 96 million already here can’t get a job. condescending and elitist attitudes from the left that show who the real haters are, who the real… Read more »
Bailey Nix
Guest
Freedom for all, equality for all, marry a horse for all I care, but do not force anyone to be a part of it. That’s equality.. Abortion was legal until 1880 the only thing is goVT should not pay for it.Late term abortions are immoral unless mothers life is in danger…you should not be able to abort all the way till the head pops out… that’s the stance Of equality and most constitutionalists. I hate no one.It is the left and all their regulations and rules that restrict freedom.. look at Detroit, great example of leftist ruination.. rich elites and… Read more »
Keith
Guest

Let me announce three things:
1. Everything is not about race.
2. Everything is not about hate.
3. Everybody is not a victim.
Is that clear? Can you use your brain and not call names?

Earl Lee
Guest

I agree with you but answer this…Why does allen (i’ve never experienced racism) west try to make so much about race???

Bailey Nix
Guest
Want to discuss hate? The leftists hate the Constitution, hate anyone that disagrees..When was the last time any conservative burned down any neighborhoods? When was the last time a conservative rioted? When was the last time a conservative said you must speak the way we tell you you can speak? When was the last time conservatives labeled everyone that disagrees as extremists? When was the last time conservatives posted death threats to a young girl over a non existing pizza? Conservatives want to live their lives free of interference, liberals wish to regulate everyones lilives.Tax and spend policies are breaking… Read more »
Hal
Guest

Yesterday!

Sunday Assassin
Guest

Awww, Uncle ReRun it appears to me YOU are the one who hates everything said on this website which begs the question – “why exactly do you continue to come her if you disagree so vehemently?”

Earl Lee
Guest

The lies and myths!!!

Bailey Nix
Guest

You mean like Hillary, Harry Reid, and Obamas lies and deceptions?
Lying doesnt matter ,We won didn’t we…
lol and you trust them.them.look at who doesn’t pay taxes..they claim to care about the poor, yet where’s the donations to help? WHERES the bill pay assistance charity, food banks, housing assistance charities funded by the Leftist elite? Oh wait they shut down charities , not fund them.

Earl Lee
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No…i mean like the like they republicans keep telling you loons that they will create JOBS! After 100 days..how many JOBS bills have been passed?

Bailey Nix
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And go to fact check…4.8 million jobs created 3 million long term job losses.. so where’s your 11 million jobs? Another leftist lying..imagine that..

Bailey Nix
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How many jobs has Obama created? Oh yeah he fast tracked visas for lower paid foreign workers to replace Americans.. 8 trillion more in debt almost doubling the entire debt of the last 60 years combined.. To be honest neither party is out to fix the problem. .Democrats tax and spend, government handouts, endless immigration policies limiting the economic opportunities for minorities already here.feed the elitist 3% , increase the welfare rolls and wish to micromanage ever part of our lives. Republicans – not much different, except they do not believe in micromanage get our lives.. I bet if you… Read more »
Earl Lee
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58+ STRAIGHT months of job growth…over 11 million jobs added….NEXT!!! cue the idiot that will say they are part time low paying jobs in 3….2…1…

Bailey Nix
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Within 1 year of Obama in office I lost 20k in within I lost 30k..my wife after her company Xerox shut down , she could only find a 10$ an hour job , where they were making 17$.. it was his policies that hurt my industry directly. it was his policies that caused her company which had been profitable for 18 years to close the office. More people out of work, more people on welfare now than any time in history, not just by numbers, but by percentage. . Do not install policies that take food off my table and… Read more »
Earl Lee
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Wait…so Obama caused Xerox to close a location??

Bailey Nix
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His economic policies did..in his recession .wages are down, and the middle class has been gutted, poverty is up to 22% .that is Obama policies..48% on handouts.

Earl Lee
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Since the “trough” of the recession in late 2009/early 2010 in seasonally adjusted numbers:
9.8 million MORE jobs in total
10.3 million MORE private sector jobs
8.6 million MORE people working

sgb
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I see that you believe those lies.

Bailey Nix
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Not according to fact checking..we can talk numbers to prove our point, but the median average household has lost 6%-7% in income.. we have lost 60%.. As I said, when I see food off my table, I blame who’s in charge, especially when it’s their policy that caused it. if we hadn’t paid our homes off we’d be in some slum right now.. as it is family of 4 living on 24 k a year take home..And I refuse any assistance. . I do have a plan on our recovery, but the wife is scared..he’s I want to sell our… Read more »
Earl Lee
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So you blame OBAMA but yet put NO BLAME on republicans that promise you the WORLD and deliver absolutely NOTHING!!

Bailey Nix
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In my other posts you see I do .however my life was better under their policies. . I rejected bush as soon as he went to iraq.. I support the troops, not and blame the politics, but then Obama turned around and did the same..if we were talking during bush’s term, you would know I’m an equal opportunity critic.

Earl Lee
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The funny thing is this….you place NO blame on your holy REPUBLICAN PARTY!!

Bailey Nix
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As far as environmental issues, both parties fail…monsanto/Dupont/oil sellouts..
Air powered cars are the solution , they are in india, why are we not pushing that technology?
I plan on building with earthbag construction, solar power, geothermal heat and cooling (ever hear of thermal tower) grey water recycling, rain catching for lawn irrigation. .as well as recycled wood wall and floor panelling (pallet wood).
You can be conservative and environmentally sound..we should take care of the earth the best we can, and you can have environmental friendliness. .

Earl Lee
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I don’t believe you can because you are the FIRST conservative i’ve heard that is environmentally sound. When your party want to STRIP regulation that protects the environment…..you have a uphill battle on your hands!!!

Bailey Nix
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that’s the thing, dems have sold it out to Monsanto/dupont …they run the epa/ usda …it’s easy to see, just look at rhetoric and then look at what the agencies do.. They raid organic small farms , yet a p approve glyphosate at 100x the level of human toxicity (2014), 2,4- d approved in 2013 (half of agent orange component)..look at the donations to both parties and the shift in positions of the politicians afterwards.. look at the last couple food act bills closely..you will find increased regulatory actions designed specifically so small farms and organic farms find it hard… Read more »
Earl Lee
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And they’ve just passed a HUGE tax break for the MEGA DONORS!! Lets you know exactly where their priorities are!!

Bailey Nix
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Oh just to make it clear, yes the main part of the Republicans are corporate sellouts…Tea party claims liberty but are just as tyrannical in their view as the left is.. I think hate is on both sides of the aisle , and I hate no one.. I disagree but not hate. I just want to live free, live in peace like most Americans and I do believe in ethics so I do not support liars and 90% of our politicians are liars.. So it’s very hard to support any of them at all. Jimmy Carter I think was the… Read more »
Bailey Nix
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I am not a Republican. .I am a Constitutionalist.Which means I am for equality and freedom for everyone, which the democratic police state and over regulation and the attitude that government is the be and end all of all things goes against the very principles of freedom and liberty.

Earl Lee
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Tell that to the once that are being told that they can’t get a tax break because all the tax breaks are going to the wealthy!

Bailey Nix
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Wall street record high, poverty record high , welfare record high..companies record profits…
you tell me who Obama represents. .
Corporations and big business, Elitists..not the people.

Earl Lee
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So you have no issue with republicans giving tax breaks to mega donors and not working folks? I’m going to take that as a yes

Bailey Nix
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Tax spend is not the solution. .the solution is not in either parties politics because it would cut their gravy train..both parties are pandering. . I criticize the one that is responsible , the one that is supposed to lead ..Right now Obama is that man..Under Bush , We were making 75 k a year or more.. under Obama we’ve lost 50k of income. break up the corporations to encourage competition. .encourage small businesses. .encourage small farms and banks. change labor laws ..no profits no bonuses for executives..bonuses must include all levels of employment. .10% of profits should be divided… Read more »
Sunday Assassin
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Typical leftist liberal limpwristed pantywaisted know it all! Sending our country down the tubes. The middle east is on fire and we sit and watch all of our allies wonder what happened to the United States? This president will go down as our worst and it will take time to repair all that he has sabataged but true Americans will get the job done. Memories of the mess the left has put us in will haunt the liberal disease and although America has shown a weakness, even the low information voter has seen enough lies, deception and utter disdain that… Read more »
Bixby Childress
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I really get a kick out of neo cons saying libs are ruining the country but they never say how. Oooh the middle east is on fire….tell me when the last time it wasn’t. So that one doesn’t count. It’s not like libs ruined the economy in 06… libs rescued it. Libs didn’t start a war based on a lie costing hundreds of thousands of lives at a cost trillions of dollars never paid for while giving the wealthy tax cuts leaving you and I, the middle class, the responsibility of picking up the bill. Last I checked no liberal… Read more »
Bailey Nix
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I’m let’s see Obama illegally bombed Libya and armed extremists there, encouraged rebellion in several countries, refused to arm moderates ( the only thing I agree with hillary on ) so yes the chaos is on him.

Gazinta1
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Bix….theres no hope for you, you’ve ingested WAY too much of Oblowhole’s Kool Aid!!

sonjixx
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hundreds of thousands of what lives ??? Muslims ???? To bad there wasnt a few more zeros on the end

Uncle Sam
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The delusion is strong with this one.

Sunday Assassin
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Well Bixby, your first point is negated because there is more turmoil with ISIS right now than at any time in history so right out of the gate you show how utterly clueless you are. There is genocide going on and people are being beheaded. Name another time when these atrocities have been as prevalent. You can’t because its never happened. So your judgement that it doesn’t count shows blatantly how untrue your opening statement is. ODumbo has taken the greatest and most powerful military the world has ever known and neutered it by terminating hundreds of our senior officers… Read more »
Bailey Nix
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No but libs started this one by illegally bombing in libya, arming terrorists there , and refusing to give direct aid to the kurdish who are a proven non radical group, a perfect counter to isis..Give them the heavy weapons needed. Let them March on Isis and destroy it in Syria. The Iraqis could handle the remaining in iraq. the only thing Obama has done is feed the elitist rich in wall street and given more people govt subsidies and allowed chaos to proliferate through his policies.. Now Cuba will be free to greatly increase its support of South American… Read more »
Neil Dalton
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conservative trolls sounds dead on to me

Xerocky
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said the liberal troll.

Xerocky
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That would be a lot of conservative trolls. I honestly don’t think there’s all that much enthusiasm for her. The people who are old enough to remember the 9o’s are now also old enough to pay taxes, and the people who too young to pay taxes (but old enough to vote) are too young to remember what was so great about Bill Clinton. Generation X are grown and a good deal of them have kids, there’s widespread opposition among them to common core. They know that it doesn’t take a village, it takes a family and a school system that… Read more »
dad10
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Xerocky, you covered the map on Hillary, but here is another important point. After Benghazi, she resigned as Secretary of State. Why? She can’t take the heat? She left t protect the lie for Obama’s administration? Or, did she lie and resigned to stay out of the fray until her run for the White House. Maybe that would not be such a flaw, if the Republicans could run Richard Nixon against her.

Xerocky
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that’s a good point.

OopsIFahted
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Xerocky “Why is Hillary even running?” She’s not running. But she is moving as fast as her Walker and Depends will allow.

Arch Stanton
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But…..but…..but…..”It’s her turn!!!!” (GAG!!!!)

Earl Lee
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Rasmussen: 57 Percent Think Hillary Will Be Next President

"nhbuckvt"
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your “nuts”

sonjixx
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The same idiots who voted for Obozzo will vote for her..bet she wins

Earl Lee
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I didn’t make up the number….LOL

Mark Winstanley
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i think it was a request mate. they did say your nuts, not you’re nuts 🙂

Joe Dan
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She would be 71 years old if she made it to the oath! I remember when my grandmother turned 70. A business woman and retired for five years by then. Mrs Clintons time was 2008, it’s past. The last three presidents have been in their 40’s when they took the oath. Can’t go back now as we have too many capable younger possibilities

searcher911
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There aren’t that many conservatives that even watch MSNBC.

Feathers
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hmmm… Allen West considers Conservatives, who voted no, “trolls”. I don’t know what to think about that.

Guest
Guest

He means they would be “trolls” to the lunatic left, knee jerk liberals running the MSLSD poll.

ChicoAtcheson
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I would never vote for her. NEVER !!!

Jeremy Kirk
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Voting for some one. That is anti second. Admidment .not this guy and to all. The crazy as p she’s involved in I will be. Voting. Against her

fished
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msnbc sucks and the people that listen to there lie,s

Keith Belvitch
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Yeah all both of them.<