Will we be censored? Feds fighting on two fronts to completely control Internet

Something insidious and secretive is quietly happening underneath our noses. Not that this is anything new from the Obama administration mind you, but since this one hits particularly close to home (i.e. this website and Facebook page), we thought we better alert you.

Within the last couple of weeks, both the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) and the Federal Elections Commission (FEC) have announced their intention to regulate (i.e. control) the Internet.

Your — and our — freedom of speech on these pages is under direct assault.

Let’s start with the attack by the FCC. You may have heard of something called “Net Neutrality.” Sounds good, right?

Wrong.

Under the pretext of “fairness” (of course), FCC Chairman Tom Wheeler announced his commission was claiming the power to regulate the Internet like a utility service in order to regulate Internet service providers and the speed rate at which they provide service. In other words, Internet providers couldn’t throttle back data speed for certain content and customers, and speed it back up for others.

But that’s not really the issue. According to Ajit Pai, an FCC commissioner (and one of only two Republicans on the FCC board),

The American people are being misled about President Obama’s plan to regulate the Internet,” he said in a statement, suggesting that Mr. Obama had pressured Mr. Wheeler into reclassification. “Last week’s carefully managed rollout was designed to downplay the plans of a massive intrusion in the Internet economy … . I have now read the 332-page plan. It is worse than I had imagined,” said Mr. Pai. In particular, he warned that reclassifying broadband would open the door to taxes and onerous regulations, and give the FCC “broad and unprecedented discretion to micromanage the Internet.”

However you, dear reader, are not allowed to review the full plan before the commission votes on it because Chairman Wheeler is keeping it SECRET. A four-page summary has been released, but Wheeler refuses to make the full document public.

Nervous yet? Yep, they’ll need to pass this plan before YOU get to find out what’s in it. Now where have we heard that before?

But that’s just the FCC.

Democrats on the Federal Election Commission (FEC) have said they’re “prepared to forge ahead with new regulations on bloggers and others using the Internet to support candidates and influence public policy. Supporters of Internet regulation urged the FEC to put together new rules to require even third-party Internet-based groups to reveal donors, a move that would reverse a 2006 decision to keep the agency’s hands off the Internet,” according to Newsmax.com.

Late last year, FEC Vice Chair Ann Ravel said she fears that in trying to keep the Internet open for bloggers, they’ve instead created a loophole for major political players to escape some scrutiny.

“Some of my colleagues seem to believe that the same political message that would require disclosure if run on television should be categorically exempt from the same requirements when placed in the Internet alone,” said FEC Vice Chair Ann M. Ravel in a statement. “As a matter of policy, this simply does not make sense.”

She said the FEC should no longer “turn a blind eye to the Internet’s growing force in the political arena.”

Commissioner Pai appeared recently on Sean Hannity’s radio show, and when asked how a website like the Drudge Report would be impacted by FEC rulings, Pai stated “ I can tell you…one of my friends over at the Federal Election Commission, Lee Goodman, has been outspoken about the fact that some of the commissioners there are very interested in looking at content online that, in their view, shapes the political discourse. And so if you pair what the FCC is doing in terms of the Internet’s infrastructure, and what the FEC might do in terms of the Internet’s content, you see a pretty dangerous combination in terms of government control over not just what we say, but how we say it.”

It’s a very slippery slope we’re sliding down. Internet news and commentary on sites like Drudge, Breitbart, Townhall – and even this one – which don’t parrot the mainstream media line have been instrumental in cutting the left-leaning media’s stranglehold on information (disinformation and propaganda). If you want to maintain control of the population, you must maintain control of the information.

As the saying goes, in a time of universal deceit, truth becomes a revolutionary act. Vive la revolution!

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Wanda Samuelson
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It looks as though this is going to happen anyway. We still have to contact our senators and representatives to let them know our concerns–and it’s so easy with emails and facebook. This is a good issue to be letting them know about it, but I don’t think many are…

Jeannie
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I’ve shared a lot of this information with people through my friends at facebook, but I feel powerless to do more. Why aren’t the internet providers and website hosts upset. The only person I see talking about this is you. And I’ve also seen some information on Mozilla that I shared on facebook. People don’t seem to care about this but it worries me.

Marie
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We are upset and I’ve used social media platforms as well as our own website to discuss what a train wreck Net Neutrality is. http://www.tsis.net/component/k2/item/274-breaking-down-chairman-wheeler-s-net-neutrality

Part of the problem is imho two fold, one they keep yelling about “fairness”, which is just stupid, not all Internet traffic should be treated the same, and some has to be blocked, like DDoS attacks. Second the discussion completely ignores the reality of the Internet and why things like prioritization happen.

Matt
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lets do somerhing about it. Sign this petition & stop griping about it on FB & repost it
http://www.petition2congress.com/2349/impeach-obama-president-united-states-america/

Keg
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The number of citizens that know about this issue is miniscule. If the sheep don’t wake up they are going to be herded into the fleecing barn. Unfortunately, so will the few of us that are awake. At lunch today I was talking to a friend about this issue. He had no idea. When I try to make people aware of what is really going on I usually get one of two reactions. Either they think I’m crazy or they just want to put their head in sand and not talk about what is coming.

Uncle Ruckus
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OH GOODNESS>…more fear from ALLEN WEST!!! He sure know how to put FEAR in people now doesn’t he

majorwiblit
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what’s happening to our country????
I think end times are coming…

Uncle Ruckus
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MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

majorwiblit
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lol,,,,did you see this? Conservatives are finally starting to notice that sham activist groups are ripping off Republican donors, after dismissing “liberal” reports about the scams. The 170-page report showed the vast majority of money spent last year by prominent conservative political action committees was “siphoned off to vendors, wasted, and just plain old pocketed by people in these PACs.” Two Super PACs – Tea Party Army and Republicans for Immigration Reform – gave no money at all to candidates through independent expenditures or direct contributions, the study found. Eight other groups – including The National Draft Ben Carson for… Read more »
Uncle Ruckus
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WOW….these people are so stupid…giving millions upon millions to these PACS like the GUARDIAN FUND and the majority of that money is being used to make people RICH!!! Allen West’s PAC collected over 4 million while only giving out about 60k to candidates….You people need to start asking WHERE IN THE WORLD DID THE OTHER MONEY GO?? SUCKERS!!!!

Rafael X
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Stop quoting librul media. Original links actually comes from Right Wing News.

http://rightwingnews.com/john-hawkins/50-million-tubes-17-conservative-pacs-spending-money/

majorwiblit
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wow,,, they have all the break downs,,,
$$$ amounts and everything..

Rafael X
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They can do some actual reporting I was shocked.

Uncle Ruckus
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WOW!!!! These people are IDIOTS!!!! Just giving and giving to PACS like the GUARDIAN FUND and the money is going directly back to them!!!

JASSEL
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Better to open your mind to what’s happening than being a fool in disbelief.

Solitaire Huntress
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Seems to b e a troll relative of that chick thereallydia.

Uncle Ruckus
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No….better to understand exactly WHY is spreading all of this GLOOM and DOOM and the world is ending crap. Keep the simple of mind folks that walks among us afraid so they will buy his coffee cups and tee shirts

majorwiblit
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he’s got some wicked cool tin-foil hats for sale there!!
they all need to stock up…

hadenough57
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Come on JASSEL, you have to know that unc can’t open what he doesn’t have!

undem
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if the low information voters internet is tampered with, they’ll probably tear the white house down, brick by brick.

Uncle Ruckus
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You mean people that, support allen west and his lies??

7dkag
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Why cant the commie traitor in the white house, and all the other libs, JUST LEAVE US ALONE ?

kerijay
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They are control freaks.

Uncle Ruckus
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DId you research this yourself or you took it as FACT??

Camotim
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You would not know how to research the contents of toilet paper.

7dkag
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I researched myself, there are many stories about this.. But I guess you want commie O controlling this too? Destroy the internet like health care?
What FACTS do you know, seeing the most transparent administration is keeping it secret from everyone? I guess you just trust him? I guess you dont want to be left alone and like it when the govt ruins one thing after another, taking away more freedom? Have some more kool-aid pal.

Satanism is a Jewish cult
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Satanism is a Jewish cult

Le satanisme est une cile de juive… Le juive occupé gouvernement français a mis Jean-Marie Le Pen en prison pour avoir critiqué l’islam. La liberté d’expression en France? Taureau-merde! Police religieuse French vous arrêtent pour avoir critiqué Juifs! Banquiers juifs inondent l’Europe avec les musulmans et l’Amérique avec la troisième corbeille de monde.

Rafael X
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Va prêcher tes conneries anti-sémites ailleurs imbécile.

Rafael X
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Someone needs to explain the Internet to that “editor-in-chief”. Maybe Andy can contribute something useful for once being a CCNA and all. Ending net neutrality means providers decide what goes. Private companies get to control speech online. If a big provider has a liberal CEO who does not like Allen West’s BS might decide that any traffic from his subscribers going to that site will only load at 2k per hour. Even if you pay your provider for 30mbs per minute.

Andy Martin
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[[ Maybe Andy can contribute something useful for once being a CCNA and all ]] Says the troll who offers nothing but race pimping 24/7/365. So let me explain networking to you. You pay for 25MB down you should get that. Download a free network analyzer and run tests on whatever, wherever you download from and see if the speeds are consistent. But even if you find a slower download speed whee you shouldn’t, you’ll get run around the block. They will say network congestion, your firewall rules, background programs, source server issues, anti virus program, anything and everything that… Read more »
Rafael X
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Now your dancing around the subject, how unbecoming of you. Are you for or against net neutrality?

Andy Martin
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Hey stupid, you never asked me what I was for or against. You clucked about me being a CCNA and I responded with a network admin answer. And I am for it, now enforce it moron. That was my point. Now tell the forum what part of my previous response was incorrect. Good luck.

Rafael X
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You are for it. Ok good that wasn’t so hard.

Andy Martin
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[[ You are for it. Ok good that wasn’t so hard ]] You finally asked me what I thought. Was that so hard? Dumb clown Regulate what? Speeds and fees? Fine. We’re back to square one on the speed issue. How big of a govt entity do you want this to be? Who will monitor the speeds and who pays this entity? You willing to pay $150 a month for internet as opposed to the $50 you may be paying now? Like I said, you will NEVER be able to absolutely prove if you are getting screwed. To hell with… Read more »
Rafael X
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Speed is regulated by the market. We are talking about private entities having the right to regulate content. Picking winners and losers. Why another government entity there’s already the FCC in place? Who keeps cable providers from blocking the tv stations they don’t own. Right now we only pay for speed and throughput if that goes through we will also have to pay for access to some content. We will end-up paying 150$ for the service that cost 50$ today and it will all go in the ISP’s pockket.

Andy Martin
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[[ Speed is regulated by the market ]] Whaaa? No one regulates the speed. That’s what we are discussing. And you never responded to my question. The FCC does not regulate utilities. You said treat it like a utility. Now if you want the FCC to monitor computer speeds and make sure they are the same for all content everywhere, you will have to drastically increase the size and scope of the FCC. Again, how much more money are you willing to pay as either/or the govt/ISP jack you to pay for this via a new onerous utility fee? And… Read more »
Rafael X
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So your position is it’s impossible to enforce so bend over and take it? I must say I’m surprised.

Andy Martin
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Your words [email protected], not mine. Must say I am not surprised.

In the future, know the subject matter before you blurt. Moron. Maybe you can riot ala Ferguson. That’s what you primates are good at when you don’t like something.

Rafael X
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I know the subject matter quite well. I was interested in your opinion. You might consider me a primate but when it comes to this issue we are both consumers. We in it together whether you like it or not.

Andy Martin
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You don’t know crap about networking. That is the issue primate. You get snarky with me and I will give it back. Now if you can’t refute my responses outside of ‘bend over’, drop it.

Rafael X
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I’m not specialized in networking but I am in IT. I know enough to know that you don’t need to monitor every single computer to find out if a range of ip is blocking a certain type of traffic. So what if we have to expand the scope of the FCC? We had to when the telegraph, the telephone and television came to. It’s called getting with the times.

Andy Martin
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Who said monitor every computer IT boy? I said every one of the over 4,000 ISP’s in this nation. And no one is talking about blocking, this is about changing download speeds for certain sites or content. Now tell us how you do that and the cost added to either your service plan and/or any new fad taxes associated with doing this. You have yet to answer me. Here’s an example of what you are facing. I just ran a traceroute from my IP to 75.76.11.8. The first 8 hops were Comcast IP’s traversing the network. That means for just… Read more »
Rafael X
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As if any router at an ISP is not monitored already. For DDos attacks, all kind of intrutions detection, pirated traffic, kiddie porn and all other kinds of illegal contents. Right now they cannot do that just on the legal and copyrighted content. Right now your isp cannot charge you extra for access to Youtube or Netflix. Right now only pay for speed and throughput. Radio, telegraph tv and was once considered the way inernetworking is considered today.

Andy Martin
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They aren’t monitored by the FCC, which is what you are talking about. And the things you claim are monitored by routers are in fact monitored at the firewall. Routers and switches simply pass along frames and packets. Firewalls take care of the security. You can set up ACL’s on your routers and port security on switches but the crap can still get through. It is incumbent on both the ISP and the end user to protect the network, not the FCC. The ISP can throttle certain speeds which is what we are talking about. And radio, telegraph, TV were… Read more »
Rafael X
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No but they required changing laws and are regulated. And it’s at the firewall they will start filtering which content what users have access to. ISP’s are basically arguing that they have “editorial discretion” as to the content that goes through their network. Which they can’t do now. Technically they can but not legally. You are right is both the ISP and the user to protect the network. The ISP wants to take the users ability to click where he damn pleases.

Andy Martin
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Why do you keep saying ISP’s are regulated?

What content can you not access because of your ISP? I have had Comcast since around 2000 and have never got denied outside of a 404 or similar code. That and ‘do not have permission’ i.e., admin rights.

Rafael X
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Nope you never did because the net was always neutral. That is what they want to do away with. They are not regulated, only thing that can happen is if you start getting access denied chances you will change ISP. Once they are allowed to block certain content. Comcast can decide that their DNS servers will stop resolving nbc.com or charge extra to connect you to the proxy that has access to facebook.

Andy Martin
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Fine. Go back to my original point. How do you monitor all ISP’s at every hop in their system and make sure all net content is delivered equally? You may be able to make sure their DNS resolves addys but how do you ensue that they aren’t running that access all over the world at slower speeds thereby making access that was 25MB look like 1MB? THAT is the question. I can run RIP at certain routers that will slow down delivery as opposed to OSPF or EIGRP. I can rewrite my CLI’s [Cisco equipment] that prioritize certain traffic over… Read more »
Rafael X
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You don’t have to monitor every router. Just take a peek at their firewall rules. You gave the answer to your own question. If they run that access slower, someone will notice. I would rather pay the extra cost to the FCC then open the Pandora’s box of letting the ISP chose where I can go for a fee.

Andy Martin
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[[ You don’t have to monitor every router ]] LOL! The hell you won’t! [[ Just take a peek at their firewall rules ]] Not enough if routing protocols/algorithms used are altered to slow down certain traffic. [[ You gave the answer to your own question. If they run that access slower, someone will notice ]] And the ISP will give you at least ten reasons why it is downloading slower because of issues out of their control, starting with network congestion, server you are trying to access content from, virus, spyware, malware, adware, trojan,………….. [[ I would rather pay… Read more »
Rafael X
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You haven’t proven that extra regulation will ensue extra cost. Content providers like Netflix or Youtube will find out if the carrier is trying to stiff them. Open and fair competition between content providers is what made the Internet the commercial success it is today. Fact is the market doesn’t allow them to do what they want to do. One carrier cannot decide on his own to block content so they are trying to move to goalpost. I don’t get how conservatives don’t trust the government but will sell their firstborn to corporations.

Andy Martin
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You think the govt or the ISP will do all this monitoring for free? Prove they will. You assume Netflix will know, prove how.

Rafael X
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Netflix got into with Comcast already exactly over slowing their streaming.

http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_25723988/cogent-ceo-comcast-purposefully-slowed-down-netflix-streaming

Andy Martin
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Read the article………….Schaeffer said that after Cogent began delivering Netflix’s traffic in mid-2012, its relationship with Comcast worsened and Comcast began to stop increasing the capacity of its hardware to accommodate the increase in traffic See where it says ‘stop increasing the capacity of its hardware’? Read the whole article. Comcast didn’t slow anything down. They didn’t buy more hardware and Netflix had to make a deal to fix the issue. Your point again?

Rafael X
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My point is they noticed the Qos decrease.

Andy Martin
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Bullcrap. You said that Comcast slowed them down. And you decrease Qos at the CLI of the router. Prove that happened.

Uncle Ruckus
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really?? You tried to explain it to STUPID???

Andy Martin
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C’mon unc punk azz. Show the forum all of your technical knowledge. Then get back to my shoes.

Andy Martin
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I see my inbred cotton picker has shown up to blow Ruffy.

Uncle Ruckus
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your mother and father are brother and sister and you call someone else a inbred?? MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Andy Martin
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How long have you been phfukinn your mom?

kerijay
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It’s total control of speech just like Obamacare is total control of our lives. The internet doesn’t need fixing it works just fine people can start business on the internet when the government takes over there will have to be license and fees paid. The democrats are for sucking every penny out of hard working people.

Rafael X
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Those companies trying to end net neutrality are the ones trying to change how it works. We wont have to pay those fees to the government we’ll pay them to Internet providers. They will dictate how we use the internet and what content we can access to. If an Internet provider also provide cable service they will be able to limit, provide for an extra fee or completely block access to a streaming services. Which would make a success story like Netflix impossible.

Uncle Ruckus
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They don’t care….nor will they look into it for themselves!!!

Uncle Ruckus
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We also found quite a few PACS that made large payments to vendors who were owned by people who worked for the PAC. This certainly can be done for legitimate purposes, but it’s also an easy way to move money around while keeping your donors from seeing what you’re actually doing with it.

Uncle Ruckus
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Like the “VENDORS” the GUARDIAN FUND spent the majority of their money on??? YOU people have been HAD!!!

kerijay
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We was had in Florida when the democrats came up with votes at the last minute.

GoneFishing
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Don’t feed the troll (more like a stalker) @disqus_I7HBKribYX:disqus aka Earl Lee.
He couldn’t care less about the issues. His true motive and compulsion is his hatred of black conservatives that don’t tow the Liberal line of Liberal black Americans…he’s a bigot.

MotherBatherick
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Lib progressive socialists will just call it “The People’s Internet”, much like the news in the People’s Republic of China.

DC60
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It sounds like this “Guardian Fund” must be a very good place to help the USA. It seems to be quite the nerve center that bothers liberals. I plan to send $10 a month from now on. 1/6 what it cost to watch tv and I can get a lot of entertainment from reading the lib posters going nuts about it.

Rafael X
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You should spend a 100$ a month that would make them 10 times as nuts.

Andy Martin
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So how much do you give the Al&Jesse Race Pimp Foundation?

Rafael X
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I sponsor a child in Africa.

Andy Martin
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Sure you do. We sponsor you and your kid’s welfare.

Rafael X
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11 year old from Mali.

Andy Martin
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Riiiiiiiight.

Marie
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We own an ISP and wrote an article addressing the industry’s concerns about “Net Neutrality” and Chairman Wheeler’s comments. http://www.tsis.net/component/k2/item/274-breaking-down-chairman-wheeler-s-net-neutrality

Uncle Ruckus
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OBAMAPHOBIC XENOPHOBE CLAIMS PRESIDENT IS CREATING ‘NORTH AMERICAN CALIPHATE’ TO DEPORT U.S. CITIZENS

I JUST READ THIS AND YOU RIGHT WING LOONS HAVE JUST LOST IT

Uncle Ruckus
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But thats a great new term for allen west….not only is he a islamophobe….he is a OBAMAPHOBE too!!! THE SKY IS FALLING!! MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!