Gallup chairman admits unemployment rate is BS [VIDEO]

I’ve said it. Others have said it. But you don’t hear it said on mainstream media outlets like ABC, CBS, CNN, NBC, MSNBC and PBS. But this whopper is bigger than “if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor.”

It’s the unemployment numbers.

As reported on the official Gallup website by Chairman Jim Clifton, “Here’s something that many Americans — including some of the smartest and most educated among us — don’t know: The official unemployment rate, as reported by the U.S. Department of Labor, is extremely misleading.”

http://youtu.be/3DUgGxGBAQo

“Right now, we’re hearing much celebrating from the media, the White House and Wall Street about how unemployment is “down” to 5.6 percent. The cheerleading for this number is deafening. The media loves a comeback story, the White House wants to score political points and Wall Street would like you to stay in the market. None of them will tell you this: If you, a family member or anyone is unemployed and has subsequently given up on finding a job — if you are so hopelessly out of work that you’ve stopped looking over the past four weeks — the Department of Labor doesn’t count you as unemployed. That’s right. While you are as unemployed as one can possibly be, and tragically may never find work again, you are not counted in the figure we see relentlessly in the news — currently 5.6 percent. Right now, as many as 30 million Americans are either out of work or severely underemployed. Trust me, the vast majority of them aren’t throwing parties to toast “falling” unemployment.”

Well, shuck my corn, so now who are you progressive socialists gonna get mad at? I know, it‘s just hard to believe the Obama administration would lie to you — oops, what? The Gallup CEO is lying? Yeah, I know, when the facts are presented to liberal progressives, it’s like light on vampires. But sadly, this is the truth.

What we should be asking — and no, liberal progressives, you should not condemn the Gallup CEO — we should be asking, why, why is this not reported at those other “news” stations?

This is just one of the many examples of statistical manipulation by the Obama administration. We brought you the truth behind the debt and deficits just recently. We’ve shared the truth behind our energy boon — trust me, it has nothing to do with any policies emanating from the Obama administration.

The Gallup CEO writes, “There’s another reason why the official rate is misleading. Say you’re an out-of-work engineer or healthcare worker or construction worker or retail manager: If you perform a minimum of one hour of work in a week and are paid at least $20 — maybe someone pays you to mow their lawn — you’re not officially counted as unemployed in the much-reported 5.6%. Few Americans know this.”

“Yet another figure of importance that doesn’t get much press: those working part time but wanting full-time work. If you have a degree in chemistry or math and are working 10 hours part time because it is all you can find — in other words, you are severely underemployed — the government doesn’t count you in the 5.6 percent. Few Americans know this.”

“There’s no other way to say this. The official unemployment rate, which cruelly overlooks the suffering of the long-term and often permanently unemployed as well as the depressingly underemployed, amounts to a Big Lie. And it’s a lie that has consequences, because the great American dream is to have a good job, and in recent years, America has failed to deliver that dream more than it has at any time in recent memory.”

How can it be that Americans don’t know this? How can it be that President Obama can just espouse talking points and most media outlets let them go unchallenged? It is Orwellian, as a complicit media willfully deceives the populace.

I flew back from Dallas late Thursday evening to West Palm Beach. There were two black gents sitting with me, exit row 14, seats D, E, and F. Of course it had been a long day and I was falling in and out of sleep. But during one of my moments coming out of sleep I heard the gent in the middle seat — who maybe had too much gin and tonic — talking about how great a job Obama has done. He went on about the economic recovery and how Obama is doing great protecting us.

Nah, it wasn’t worth it, so I fell back asleep. But this confirms the Gallup CEO’s point that “few Americans know this.”

“Gallup defines a good job as 30+ hours per week for an organization that provides a regular paycheck. Right now, the U.S. is delivering at a staggeringly low rate of 44 percent, which is the number of full-time jobs as a percent of the adult population, 18 years and older. We need that to be 50 percent and a bare minimum of 10 million new, good jobs to replenish America’s middle class.”

So the next time Obama carries on about 1 million new jobs, just know that’s only 10 percent of where we need to be. And when y’all who tune into MSNBC and NBC among the others hear the unemployment rate is 5.6 percent, well, you now certainly know better — or do you actually care and would rather stay in the Matrix and drink kool-aid?

86 COMMENTS

  1. Fools willingly led by the puppet master. No accounting for taste or intelligence as long as the narrative fits the dream. Ideologues continue to accept only data that supports their universal truths and the progressive religion. We will all pay for such ignorance.

      • Actually those of us who report numbers to the BLS know the truth about what was changed and when, therefore we don’t need news or you to attempt to define that truth.

        So please save that lie, and insulting deflection for someone who can easily be bamboozled.

      • Actually every employer in the nation is required to report to the BLS are you really that stupid?

      • So because. You report for one company you know that the way we count was changed by Obama. you might want to quit before your BS catches up with you.

      • You do understand corporate compliance correct? Including the understanding of BLS rule making this stuff is all published in black and white on the BLS website. I’m sorry your too ignorant to know what the words mean.

        The one who should stop is you. You don’t have a single clue and it’s really now apparent to most people.

      • Yes I do understand and I know the way we calculate the numbers have not been changed by Obama they are the same as under Bush when the left complained the numbers were off and the same as under Clinton.

      • Apparently you don’t know, why don’t you enumerate how they are the same?

        Because they did change under Bush and Clinton before him as well.

        I’m not partisan, I’m libertarian but what’s not going to happen is you sitting here first with the ad hominem followed by several other manipulated tactics that has nothing to do with what the truth actually is.

      • sure the are the same because we use the same methods as we have for decades. You say you have proof Obama changed them where is your proof

      • Back to where we started he did not change them it was a debunked story the for some reason some still believe. Get of faux news and talk radio.

      • Did you notice the term “long-term unemployment”? It’s the way they calculate people on their 2nd or 3rd extension, not the regular unemployment.

      • Those are the folks they are no longer counting as unemployed. Because those are supplemental unemployment claims. Not original unemployment claims.

        The reality is to a lay person I don’t care if your on your first claim or 51st claim if your unemployed and need a job you should be counted. If your an ex con and just got out of jail and can now look for work Parolees should be counted.

        If you are returning to the work force you should be counted. The fact none of these groups are being counted but are somehow excluded from their rosy number is grossly misleading and you fan boys crowing about it must have a mental disorder. If you can’t see what it does to modify the final number you failed basic math.

      • I just read the article and it discussed many changes, but not the final statistic. You are wrong. Try reading it again. Especially about the changes made in 1982.

      • The fact is you both said their were no changes there were. I did not state or enumerate what the changes were.

        The fact is the U-3 and U-6 were both changed by the BLS during changes to the US time periods via extensions and other means.

        The fact you want to shake your head no like a couple of children means your a couple of idiots that are not grounded in reality.

        I really am done here your opinions are groundless and baseless and have zero basis in reality.

        The fact is by every economic number imaginable this administration is the worst we have had since Stagflation in the 70s.

        You two dipshits keep trying to paint me as Republican. The fact of the matter is I am sitting here with the actual government rules.

        They’ve all been fudging the numbers to conceal outsourcing. Why don’t you look at the trade imbalance. The loss of workforce and workforce contraction is obvious and evident. You two aren’t morally superior because your arguing the sky is green.

        The facts are the facts.

  2. Only you loons refuse to accept facts! I was wondering how long it would take before ALLEN west would post something like this! The numbers are GOOD and 58 straight months of JOB GROWTH!!!

  3. We were losing 800k jobs per month under bush and obama has 58 straight months of JOB GROWTH despite people like allen west and the republican congress….Income rose this period also!!!

    • Unfortunately if you have a job you have 6 years of currency devaluation as they print money as fast as they can. Save your pie in the sky BS.

    • Their a few like you who refuse to see the facts. I have 2 sons with degrees unable to get a job in their field. Working minumim wage part time. Their are many in the same boat

      • I’m sorry but I’ve quit jobs and got a job with no problem…also moved to a different state and found a job within 8 days.

    • How much of that “job growth” is only part-time since, under this administration, full-time has been redefined as 30 hours a week? If you look at the unemployed, those we’re told quit looking for work and those working part-time when they need full time, that number is huge. The low workforce participation rate reflects that problem. This is not the rosy picture you want to paint, Uncle Ruckus or Earl Lee. Some economists are saying that this recovery is slower than the recovery from the Great Depression. The numbers are mediocre at best.

      • Un huh…..you people just can’t accept good economic news….they always has to be something behind it! I find it quite SAD that you people hope the president FAILS and if he fails AMERICANS fail

      • Not only are you wrong ruckus you also discount the small business owner who has 3 to 5 people working for him and pays no unemployment into the system so that the workers are unable to file for unemployment benefits if they are laid off or the company goes under. No one in my estimation is counting this group at all.

      • Good news is always welcome by all when it is “honest”… your utopia is built on lies and nothing more! This will all become evident in the last two years of this miserable, lying President’s reign! He is cracking now and it is only going to get worse as more and more people who can no longer be silenced come forward. No one cares what color this man is (and remember he is half white).. he is a failure at leadership and foreign policy; you can only rob Peter to pay Paul for song long before the house of cards crumbles… mark my word on that one!

      • Congress voted down the 30 hours a week full-time. Also, most people who do want to work want a full-time job. The low workforce participation probably has more to do with minimum wage jobs, since it’s now poverty.

      • Some of the people that left the work force were people that now can get insurance! A few people out there were only working FOR the insurance and they don’t have to do that anymore with the ACA!

    • Stop drinking cool -AID. IT HAS DONE SOMETHING TO YOUR BRAIN. Obama has done nothing to improve the job growth. Only made it worse. I understand now why people like you voted for Obama twice.

    • If there has been a “job growth” who is filling those jobs, because the people I know haven’t been able to get them… It was mentioned just recently that radioshack is now closing down…. and I imagine that that is just the beginning for this year…

      • Last year when my job told me my eliminated my position and I had 2 weeks left…….thats when my wife and I decided this would be a great opportunity to move to a warmer climate! We packed what we could in the car and took off! We knew absolutely nothing or no one in the city we moved to.
        8 days after arriving I had a job and 9 days after wife had a job. Didn’t like the job where I was so 3 months later got a better job!
        Sorry but there are JOBS out there!!!

      • Im glad you were able to do that, but not all people can just pack up and leave where they are and relocate. Most of our clients can’t. They are already poor and not having jobs they are in worse conditions, but what I do see around here is more Mexican restaurants opening up and you know what… they won’t hire Blacks or whites here, they hire their family or others they bring up here from Mexico. I am not trying to sound “disgruntled” but its the truth… When I first got here 20 years ago, there was only one Mexican restaurant, now we have 7 and the population is only 25k. Don’t get me wrong, I love Mexican food but 7 of the same thing? I don’t love it that much…

      • Not on all places… And you were one of the lucky ones who can move to another place where jobs may have been higher.. plus your experience… But many people aren’t able to just uproot and leave their homes and get jobs. They either have no money or no experience or both and they are stuck where they are at. You are fortunate you found a job. Not to mention its getting harder and harder for older folks, people with disabilities and those who have been in the system.

  4. Interesting that a CEO writing a BLOG, never mentions how banks have pulled money out of the market and are turning down job-starts at record rates. Mr. West needs to stop putting out and supporting misinformation.

    • You blame the banks but there are still high numbers of businesses shutting down or filing bankruptcy. We just had a Christmas season and sales were drastically lower than estimates. When the economy is weak and banks are still reeling from risky mortgages, why do you think they would suddenly take big risks on loans for businesses unless someone has stellar credit and collateral for the loan. Risky lending caused our economic meltdown and banks aren’t obligated to lend money. Besides, thanks to the Fed’s Quantitative Easing Policy keeping interest rates low, that discourages lending now when they know interest rates may rise by the end of this year.

      • Where did you get your statistic on the Christmas season? Everything I’ve read is in the 2 – 2.5% increase over last year.

      • She said (and I quote):
        “lower than estimates”
        That does not mean negative from last year.
        Reading comprehension helps in a debate.

      • Complee the quote “. . . .drastically lower then estimates.” The estimates were in the 1.75 – 2.75 increase range. Sorry if only part of the discussion is within your grasp.

  5. For many, many years, most do not understand what does and does not go into calculations for unemployment. The number has always been misleading and it’s gotten worse. We also need to consider the number of jobs lost. This is a separate number. Actual unemployment is staggering. If the current administration was doing all it’s claiming, EVERYONE would be so much better off, but we’re not. We can barely keep up with inflation!

  6. Unemployment is defined as not having a job and looking for work. How else should it be defined? Not having a job but sitting around thinking maybe I should get a job, gosh darnit?

  7. They used to calculate unemployment which was based on a calculation of mandatory data collected from all business. Data like How many people have you employed this week, or laid off, or fired. There was also other data, but basically it gave a fairly accurate rate of how many people were unemployed.

    Now unemployment is calculated solely from how many people collected an unemployment check. So anyone who has lost unemployment and does not collect a check is considered employed. That’s right if you run out of unemployment and still do not work the government considers you employed.

    Since Obama has taken office there has been three times that a large number of people (at least 45 million each time) ran out of unemployment and two of those times republicans voted down extending benefits. This has only hurt the republicans because both times Obama has come back and said something to the affect that a large group of people have gone back to work over the last few months thanks to his administration’s efforts to. Here is the best part; both times the amount of people who lose their unemployment one month is almost the exact amount of people Obama has said he put back to work.

    This is disgusting and both parties should be ashamed. If we want more Americans to go back to work these three things are the first steps to employing America.

    1. Despite what economists say about how we need to lower taxes and tariffs on imports we actually need to do the opposite and raise taxes and tariffs on imports and the steepest taxes and tariffs need to be on countries with human rights issues. The higher taxes and tariffs on imports are the more American companies can compete with product makers overseas.

    2. We need to deport illegal aliens. These so called jobs Americans don’t want were once jobs Americans were glad to have and now have lost to illegal aliens. The press reports about 14,000,000 illegal aliens, but in reality it is probably closer to 35,000,000. The number the press is working with is from 2008 and more illegal aliens have come to America since than I am sure. If the president actually gives amnesty to these people they will be legal to go after higher paying jobs forcing more Americans out of work. The last thing on this subject is I am 100% for immigration, but we have to live by the rules laid down in order to insure we do not use up all our resources. Resources like jobs, housing, government spending, etc. We also have to live by these rules to insure we do not let criminals into this country, or people bringing diseases like measles.

    3. We need to start putting stricter regulations on big business, corporations, lending institutions, and banks. We also need to start fining CEO’s and top executives who run a company into the ground leaving thousands unemployed while the walk off with billions. If you run a company into the ground the government should have the right to seize all your assets in order to help pay unemployment for all the people you unemployed. I think CEO’s would be more diligent to do what is right if they know they will lose everything.

    There is a lot of other things to consider, but this is my suggestions for a good start at putting Americans back to work.

  8. WHY when good economic numbers come out people like ALLEN WEST has to try to downgrade those numbers?? I would like to know exactly what ALLEN WEST said when we were loosing 800,000 jobs per month under BUSH?????

    • You aren’t paying attention Unc. I realize this is difficult for you. The point here is that the numbers have been manipulated. Not by West but by the current administration and their minions. The president himself lied REPEATEDLY on national TV about keeping our plans and doctors among a raft of more lies and misrepresentations. If he would do that, I would think that massaging the employment numbers to make him artificially look better would be a walk in the park. The sad part is when folks like you finally pull your head out of the sand, or some place else, it will be too late for all of us. You sir do all of us, and yourself, a great disservice by perpetuating the lies FOR him.

      • dbox555 I agree. I just believe that we have reached a new high in deception. Kind of makes Clinton look inexperienced.

      • This life of utopia manipulated by this administration will be the downfall of this Country if more people don’t finally wake up!

    • I don’t know how people can say the economy is good when I see the prices of food going up and up and at the check out I am getting a lot less for a lot more money, even at the commissary we are paying a lot more. I see more people out of work and struggling to get by, more people getting on food stamps or filing for disability because they can’t find jobs… and yes Earl they are doing that. More people are having to move in with others just to make ends meet… Yeah the gas prices did go down a bit, but now they are creeping back up, which means we’ll see prices of food and other goods go up even more and our paychecks are staying the same…

      • The numbers are the numbers! I just find it odd that some of you just can’t accept positive numbers!

      • I’m not talking about the numbers here, I’m talking about my own experiences, looking at my paycheck and bank account… going shopping and working with people who come in our clinics who have no jobs, who no longer can collect unemployment and some who have gave up because they can’t find jobs. Some of my clients have signed up for disability. So these numbers are wrong as they don’t reflect what is really going on out there. And to be honest, the increase of people getting on food stamps should be an indicator that this economy is not all that good.

    • The loss of jobs started long before Bush and can be traced back to at least Ronald Reagan and was added to by every president since. Hell under Clinton there was about 1,000,000 a month for the first 12 months after he passed NAFTA.

  9. I knew this, have known this for a good many years. I tell anyone who will listen what liars these people are. If you aren’t seeing it you are blind and yet Obama wants to give work permits for those who are not even legally allowed to be in this country. My question is why? Why should they be given the jobs? Why should our tech jobs go to H B-1 visa holders? Why do you think that the economy won’t rebound if you keep your own tech workers employed. This administration is all about giving the jobs away to illegals and foreign workers. I guess by doing this they think they are proving to the American people that we are employed and these are just the jobs that are left over and need to be filled.

  10. I know those figures are a lie. I would estimate unemployment is at 20% or more. When you drop off the unemployment rolls because your time has run out, you are not counted among the unemployed. If you’ve never had a job you are not counted. If you get nothing from anyone or any agency, meaning homesless or chronic poor, you are not counted. The biggest point is it’s the Federal government, is an agency that doesn’t even know how many employees it has, so how can people believe the government can make an accurate count of anything on a weekly basis. What a joke.

      • Considering most people didn’t think it was going to go on for another 6+ years under the new “hopey changey” dipshit, people didn’t complain. Now that it has become very clear that he doesn’t care and wants to give millions of illegals jobs people are starting to understand what he’s doing.

      • Every administration lies about unemployment, and I remember people holding up signs saying to kill Bush and nothing was ever said about it. Now, if you say anything about Obama you are a racist. He was going to stop wars in the Middle East. Now we’re in wars all over the world. Bush has been gone six years and still gets the blame for the situation we have now. Some people don’t get it. It’s Obama’s job to set everyone at each other so we don’t notice how bad we get screwed each day. He has destroyed almost every ally government we had in the Middle East.

    • He’d probably say:
      “The 500+homicides in Chicago don’t really mean anything, uh, I mean, look at how many people, uh, The Crusades!”

  11. Obola can’t tell the truth about unemployment. After all, when you’re Lucifer’s favorite son, perpetual lies is all you can do. The only thing he can tell the truth on is his goal to fundamentally change America, which he has done and is close to finishing.

  12. There are only two type of Americans. Those who see the lies being told by The Marxist in Chief and those who believe the lies. They are blind to reality. Many of these ignorant as rusted doorknobs who post their ignorance on this site. There is no help for them. Their God Obuttlicker laughs at their stupidity.

  13. Here’s a few other facts that Allen doesn’t bother mentioning.
    1) The “unemployment rate” or U3 (currently at 5.7%) is the same number that every previous administration has used when talking about unemployment. When Reagan was in office and unemployment was at 5.4% that was the U3 rate. The U6 value or “total unemployment” was much higher. In 2003 the U3 was 6% but the U6 was 10%. You didn’t hear the Bush administration taking the credit for a 10% unemployment rate though did you?
    2) There are some good reasons to use the U3 rate rather than the U6 rate. First and foremost, the U6 rate includes retirees, the disabled, college students and everyone else who’s not working so there’s a lot of complicating factors in that value. For example we know that the baby boomers are retiring at an increasing rate currently and will continue to do so for the next few years. That demographic shift is going to push the U6 rate up no matter what the economy does. There is no “true unemployment number” there are just different metrics and which one you use depends on what you’re trying to measure. The U3 rate measures how many people are looking for work in any given month. The U6 rate measures something that sounds simpler but in many ways is a bit more complicated.
    3) The U6 rate has declined more than the U3 rate from 2014 to 2015. The U6 dropped 2.2 points from 13.5% to 11.3% from January 2014 to January 2015. The U3 rate dropped 1.3 points from 7.0% to 5.7% in the same period.

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