Rose Garden honoree Bowe Bergdahl to be charged with desertion

Eight months after his father joyfully exclaimed “bism allah alrahman alraheem” next to President Obama on the lawn of the Rose Garden, and six months after National Security Advisor Susan Rice referred to Army Sergeant Bowe Bergdahl as having served with “honor and distinction,” officials say Bergdahl will be charged with desertion.

According to the officials, and reported by NBC News, “the desertion charges would be based on allegations that Bergdahl abandoned his remote outpost in June 2009 to avoid hazardous duty or important service, which are grounds for charges of desertion under the Uniform Military Code of Justice, or UCMJ. According to one senior official, Bergdahl’s actions in Afghanistan go well beyond the lesser offense of AWOL, absent without leave, because he allegedly abandoned his post “in the middle of a combat zone, potentially putting the lives of his fellows soldiers at risk.”

“The charges will apparently not allege that Bergdahl left with the intent never to return. Bergdahl was reportedly captured by the Haqqani terrorist network in Pakistan. He was released in a prisoner swap for five Taliban commanders held at Guantanamo Bay in May.”

Wow, that was a heckuva trade, wasn’t it? Our nation can’t even do a decent prisoner swap. Sure makes me feel confident about negotiations with Iran.

“While a court martial could lead to imprisonment, defense and military officials tell NBC News it is likely Bergdahl would be given consideration for the 5 years he spent in captivity and be permitted to leave the Army with a “less than honorable discharge.” If accepted, Bergdahl would be denied as much as $300 thousand in back pay and bonuses, and reduced in rank to at least Private First Class, the rank he held when he disappeared from his outpost in Afghanistan.”

Just to refresh your memory about the disgraceful handling of this case, and the deliberate obfuscation from the most transparent administration in history, here are the top eight lies about the Bergdahl case, as we reported last year:

#1: Bergdahl was very sick – no he just had poor hygiene.

#2: The Taliban threatened to kill Bergdahl – even Sen. Dianne Feinstein said there was no credible intel on that.

#3: The administration informed Congress about the swap – well, if you count the discussion about prisoner transfer several years ago.

#4: The U.S. didn’t negotiate with terrorists – Ambassador Susan Rice said by negotiating through the government of Qatar, they weren’t negotiating with terrorists — except Qatar wasn’t holding Bergdahl captive, the Haqqani Network was. The Obama administration officially designated the Haqqani Network a terrorist group in 2012.

#5: Berghdal served with honor and distinction – if you count the distinction of being the only American soldier to desert his post in Afghanistan and walk into the arms of the enemy.

#6: The release of the terrorists poses little to no risk to the U.S. – Just days after being released from GITMO, family members of one of the five detainees released by the United States told NBC news that the former Taliban commander, Mullah Norullah Nori, planned to return to the fight in Afghanistan.

#7: The five terrorists released from Guantanamo Bay will be under U.S. monitoring – Qatari government officials would beg to differ and said the deal that was reached did not allow for U.S. monitoring of the detainees, and that they would be free to move about the country while they remained in Qatar.

#8: This was the “last, best chance” to bring Bergdahl home – Maybe, but to date, the Taliban have failed to engage in any meaningful peace talks with the U.S. or the government of Afghanistan. So why this time?

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      • Not unless hussein the dog eater steps in and gives his raghead hide special treatment:

        “Any person found guilty of desertion or attempt to desert shall be
        punished, if the offense is committed in time of war, by death or such
        other punishment as a court-martial may direct, but if the desertion or
        attempt to desert occurs at any other time, by such punishment, other
        than death, as a court-martial may direct.” Joint Service Committee on Military Justice (2012). “Article 85—Desertion”. Manual for Courts-Martial United States (2012 Edition). Fort Belvoir, Virginia: United States Army Publishing Directorate. pp. IV–10 – IV–13.

  1. I remember the leftist freaks treating Bergdahl like a hero and making excuse after excuse about this traitor….where are their big mouths now?

    • Yes and trying to discredit the guys he served with who were actually THERE and watches this traitors actions in the days leading up to when he WALKED AWAY. These honorable men are the heroes in this story and not one has ever waivered in their story even when being bullied by this administration.

      • I just heard on the news that 6 soldiers died while searching for this low life! 1 soldier is too many but 6 is indefensible by anyone no matter how you try to float it.

  2. Poorly written. You make a big deal about some individual blathering something in what, Arabic? While the fraud nods inanely looking on. Is he “speaking in tongues”? Is there a translation? What is he saying? What does it mean?

  3. And the SOB, didn’t want to come back…he was crying like a little girl in the truck while being comforted by some other scum..

    • Maybe they will put him in the same cell as the other crybaby Army girl, Bradley Manning? They can while away the long years commiserating with one another, doing each other’s hair, having their monthly cycles synch up together…

      As a disabled combat veteran of Afghanistan, who spent more time outside the wire than the turd spent in-country before his desertion;and as a former part of the Military Intelligence Community… I would be happiest if these two oxygen thieves were hanged.

      -97E 504th Parachute Infantry 82nd Airborne US ARMY 98-05 WIA Afghanistan

      • Thank you for your service! You have my respect and I totally support our service people and feel your opinions and feelings on matters like this should be held in much higher regard than our government seems to think. Believe me, Our country is so proud of you guys and hope you get every good and wonderful thing in your life that you so richly deserve! There is a lot of love out here for all of you.

      • Ever notice that the only “troops” the dumb ass liberals end up supporting are ones like manning, bird dog, Hasan Karim Akbar (born Mark Fidel Kools) and Nidal Malik Hasan

        If member of the US Armed Forces does his or her job and kills the enemy, or preserves the lives of their comrades, they are, accordin to the dumb ass liberals, war cirminals, murderers, cowards, deranged, etc.

        And thank you for your service to our country especially your time in that shithole of a sandbox.

      • Just a slight correction: The Sandbox is Iraq. We called Afghanistan “the Stan”. Though others may have said and done otherwise. Just saying.

        I’m actually thankful that I stayed in Afghanistan. Iraq was not a good place for a soldier… where we had Taliban attacks in Afghanistan, Iraq had IEDs and other such tomfoolery. At least with Taliban attacks, you can actually fight back (provided we don’t have ridiculous ROEs).

        I’m not going to comment on the treatment of good soldiers and marines. I’m too tired to go down that particular road of thought AGAIN.

    • I can account for every Presidential election since 1996 (my first).
      1996 I voted (regretfully) for William Clinton.
      2000 I voted for George W Bush.
      2004 I voted for George W Bush.
      2008 I voted for John McCain.
      2012 I voted for Mitt Romney.

      Sadly, I think that I voted for Babs Boxer in 96. I have learned from my mistake.

      • Certainly not me! I have voted for Goldwater, Nixon, Ford, Reagan
        Reagan, Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush, McCain and Romney

      • I voted for her in 98 having been a third party candidate that ran against her the first time she ran for Congress in 82. I voted third party, Eugene McCarthy, first time I voted in 76. For Jimmy the Jerk in 80, Mondale in 84 and Dukakis in 88. President Bush in 92–took my 3 year son to the polls with me. Bill in 96 and Al Gore in 00. GOP every time since then, W in 04, McCain in 08 and Mitt in 12. Last voted for Democrat in 08. Ever since then I have voted a straight GOP ticket–did good this last election as i ended with Joni Ernst as my Junior US Senator.

      • At least you have come back to the light.

        I thankfully grew up in a military family, my father being retired service (24 years), his father being retired service (32 years – both Korea & Vietnam), my other grandfather having served on a destroyer in the Pacific War… my great granddad an Army Cavalryman in WW1 France (back when they still rode horses). They raised me right, with a healthy respect for authority while not being brain dead and reliant on said authority.

      • Yeah. My old housemate, a Vietnam Marine combat vet, was an ardent Democrat. You couldn’t even discuss your disagreement with his policies in his presence.

        To be honest, I would have told your dad that you voted for the Vietnam veteran (McCain) and not Hussein.

      • He knew that. He knew I had voted for McCain in the Iowa caucuses in 08 as I had voted for him in the 00 California Primary He did not like McCain.

  4. Seems a little fishy to me. Why would we make a trade for someone who wanted to denounce his citizenship and spent most of his time overseas with the locals instead of his own men. Why didn’t the Taliban kill him, they had him for 5 years and weren’t getting anywhere with us? Why not make a point by killing him? Seems to me like he turned on his country while he was there and switched sides? I think treason is what he should be charged with!

  5. Mr West seems to forget that we don’t leave our men behind… even deserters.
    Getting him back was the right thing to do… so is investigating him and, if warranted, which seems likely, prosecuting him.

    There is an old saying…
    “he may be a son-of-a-b!tch, but he’s our son-of-a-b!tch”

    it is unfortunate that he will likely never be held legally accountable for the casualties that were suffered as a result of his desertion.

    • Wow Brendan, I agree with you….but you are leaving out one important point. Never, ever should we free terrorists for one of ours! That’s where Obama went wrong. When you become a deserter, no action that puts our men in harms way should be made to get you back.

    • Pardon me, but what about our Marine that was “left behind” by this administration!? He DESERVED to be rescued from that Mexican prison, but your president did NOTHING!

      • Huge difference.
        Bergdahl, though a deserter, was being held as a prisoner of war by our enemy
        Tahmoressi was a civilian (veteran) who was arrested for committing a crime (and going through the judicial system) in a friendly nation.
        tahmoressi was not left behind.
        like many Americans in friendly nations, he was arrested for breaking the law and he was treated properly and had his day in court.

      • He SOUGHT after them, they weren’t holding him! You have believed a LIE, but thank God, our government hasn’t!

        INDEED, Tamoressi was left behind! Obama didn’t raise a frikken finger to get him out of that rotten prison! He is an American hero, Bergdahl is a deserter!!

      • Sought after them?
        Are you talking about the rumor that Bergdahl sought out the Taliban?
        That may be true.
        I’m looking forward to seeing what the investigation determined, which should be revealed when the charges are announced, before jumping to conclusions.

      • It is suspected, and has been repeated without evidence, that he sought out the Taliban.
        if that were true, I’m sure the military investigators would have found that out and it will be part of the charges.

        And as I wrote in my initial comment…
        “it is unfortunate that he will likely never be held legally accountable
        for the casualties that were suffered as a result of his desertion.”

      • I have heard that some suspected that but I never heard any of them said that Bergdahl flat out told them he was seeking out the Taliban.
        That’s interesting.
        Do you have a link for that?

      • Unless he was on his way to the airport to buy a one way ticket home….I will believe he sought out the enemy.

      • Tahmoressi wasn’t treated properly and the president should have done something about it, instead it took Montel Williams to get him out. That is disgusting on Obama’s fault.

      • Greta VanSusteren also worked hard to get him out. Both of them succeeded. Obama didn’t lift a finger. He’s an ATROCIOUS human being!

      • We don’t know that he was being held a prisoner at all! He WALKED AWAY in the night from his barracks. He wasn’t captured, he wasn’t out on a mission and fell behind or got lost. He WALKED AWAY after dark from his barracks and they started getting reports a U.S. soldier was asking how to find the Taliban. He was seen interacting freely out in the open with them happy! He didn’t appear to be under duress or anyones control. All the guys he served with tell the same thing. He deserted. They don’t waiver from this and they are angry. Maybe we shouldn’t leave him behind I don’t know but I do know that giving back 5 high level terrorist and losing 6 of our heroes is definitely not worth having him back when he obviously chose that way of life over ours. Period.

      • Actually, we do know that he was being held prisoner.
        We also know that he walked away from his post.
        Everything else is known by the Army investigators

        he deserted and he will face justice for at least that, maybe more.
        I am also not happy with the exchange.
        i am happy we got him back so he can face our justice… I am not happy with how we got him back.

      • No… the US military knew he was being held prisoner and so did the government and so did the Taliban who were holding him.

        that he was being held prisoner is not in dispute.
        What investigators wanted to know was how he came to be a prisoner and how he was treated and if he cooperated with the enemy.

        Are you actually saying he wasn’t in the hands of the enemy?

      • I’m saying he was in their company. He was with them. He didn’t try to leave them and he had opportunity. So yes he was in their hands. He was holding their hands.

      • He walked away – by choice
        He sought out the Taliban – by choice
        6 Soldiers died trying to find him.

        He CHOSE to live with the enemy!

      • Tahmoressi wasn’t committing a crime. He told them he had the guns at the same time he told them he was lost. Telling the truth and trying to show he wasn’t a threat got him arrested. Don’t you ever watch any of the news?

      • Tahmoressi did commit a crime.
        the guns were illegal in Mexico.
        That’s a crime.
        Did he have an excuse?… maybe.
        You can reasonably argue hat he did not intend to commit a crime.. but he still did.

        Did the Mexican court system put him through the system and treat him fairly?
        Yes.
        He wasn’t left to rot.
        he was in jail in Mexico and had his day in court… just like any other American that commits a crime in another country.

        Also, he was caught lying to investigators so he did not tell the truth and even admitted, after changing lawyers, that he lied in his original story about not already crossing into Mexico

      • He didn’t go INTO Mexico purposely! Greta showed how easy it is to take a wrong turn and not be about to turn around, then HAVE to enter Mexico. He didn’t commit a crime. If you believe that, you must watch Communist News Net. (CNN)…

      • Actually Greta got it wrong and Tahmooressi admitted he made that story up.

        his original story that he didn’t mean to go to Mexico and that he crossed the border accidentally and had never been there before were all proven false.

        he went to Mexico earlier that day and checked into a hotel in Tijuana. He then went back to the US to pick up his stuff and come back… that’s when he was stopped.
        When investigators found proof he checked into a hotel earlier that day, he admitted that was true and said his lawyer told him to lie about accidentally crossing the border.
        He fired that lawyer and got another

        http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/Marine-Mexico-Arrest-Gun-Border-Andrew-Tahmooressi-San-Diego-262949291.html

        http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2014/may/13/tahmooressi-lawyer-customs-tijuana-weapons/?#article-copy

      • Did you even read the links?
        tahmooressi admitted he lied and that he was in Mexico earlier that day.
        he blamed it on bad advice from his lawyer.
        Are you calling Tahmooressi’s own words or admission false?
        Liberal low information sites?

        Here…
        This is FOX News (are they a liberal site?)
        This is Tahmooressi and your beloved Greta with Tahmooressi saying he was in Mexico earlier that day
        http://nation.foxnews.com/2014/05/31/record-exclusive-jailed-marine-mexico-sgt-andrew-tahmooressi-tells-his-story-greta

      • [[ Tahmoressi did commit a crime.]]

        He did? Whats was the verdict? Oh that’s right. He was released from jail, no verdict.

      • He wasn’t treated fairly, he was tortured and his life was threatened…and he made a wrong turn, did you see the video of that border crossing? It was under construction and it was a maze.

      • There is no way Tahmoressi was treated properly, he was tortured and his life was threatened.

        His crime was taking the wrong exit to return to the USA…had he been a Mexican, he would have been released immediately.

        The other Marine, captured earlier, was arrested for having an illegal fire arm, a fire arm he had reported at the border, and was cleared to take into Mexico to hunt with. This Marine was also tortured, and given that our Present Administration released 60,000 illegal aliens with crimes ranging from rape to murder, one would assume that someone who was charged with having a pre-approved fire arm would have been released as soon as the error had been noticed…..the error was, he had permission to carry it into Mexico….had the border personnel made a mistake, it was their error, not his.
        What you apparently do not understand, is that we are in an undeclared war with Mexico…they are actively invading us, and the brutal treatment that Marine endured just shows the contempt and hatred they have for American Servicemen.

      • His crime was illegally transporting guns in Mexico and he was not tortured.

        And Tahmoressi was guilty… it was not an accident.
        He should be thankful that he got released.

        he changed his story and admitted he lied about accidentally crossing into Mexico and not having been there before.
        he was there earlier that day and checked into a hotel. He came back to the US to get the rest of his stuff, including the guns.

        He claimed he only made up the earlier story and lied on the advice of his lawyer.

    • Bergdahl wasn’t left behind, he ran away and we gave up five psychopaths to gain custody so that he could be tried for his crimes.

      • Well, an internet troll is someone who offers no opinion on a subject and just pops up on a message board to throw personal insults.
        So that would make you the troll.
        Now did you have something grown-up to add to the discussion or did you just come to hurl insults?

  6. Despite several reports that Sergeant Bowe Bergdahl would face desertion charges – the subject of persistent speculation since the controversial 2014 prisoner swap that set five Taliban members free from detention at Guantánamo Bay – the Army said on Tuesday that “there have been no actions or decisions” emerging from its investigation.

    “The investigation is still with the Commanding General of US Army Forces Command who will determine appropriate action – which ranges from no further action to convening a court martial,” Major General Ronald F Lewis said in a statement.

    Lewis called stories from Fox and NBC about imminent desertion charges for Bergdahl “patently false”.

  7. Well, the usual criminal loving leftards are here I see defending Bowe like they did pig Brown. Ruffy, Majorazz, Unc sukk azz, Brenda,

      • i could give a _____ about converting any of you
        live with yourselves,, and all that _____ you call facts based
        what your masters drill into your lil’ pumpkin heads…

      • If you “could give a ____” please do! Take all the EXLAX you can and give a LOT of it! ELSEWHERE! We know you’re FULL of it and we want no part of it.

      • You’re forgiven for being a liberal … I can see you’re trying to learn, keep trying, but try a bit harder.

      • With you, who treats everybody , not in 100% agreement, as a child? You are a condescending jerk like hussein the dog eater.

      • Sorry, but I have been civil and grown-up.
        That you believe reading different opinions is condescending, and that you have to resort to name calling, is very sad.

      • Te fact that you try to put words into my mouth shows that you are a condescending twit But what can be expected from a dumb ass liberal.

      • I put no words in your mouth.
        All your responses have been personal insults.
        All you are doing is showing that you are incapable of having an adult conversation.
        If you find that condescending, that’s your problem.
        It is clear that you just don’t like to hear any opinion that differs from your own.
        That’s just sad.

      • Brendan, you started off by calling people who didn’t agree with you, cowards. Then you questioned their loyalty and patriotism….I think you crossed the lines of civility first.

    • Typical. The coward who never served doesn’t understand that we bring our boys home… even deserters, so that they can face American justice.
      Also typical of your small mind to not understand that wanting him brought home and prosecuted in a military court is NOT defending him.

      • I did serve, and trading 5 commanders for one deserter sounds like treason to me, aiding and abetting the enemy. Berghdahl isn’t the only one who should be shot.

        And “our boys” don’t desert and they don’t write letters home about hating America. He left on his own volition, he was an adult, and he made that choice…it sickens me to think about the lives lost searching for his worthless ass, not to mention the lives lost because of those terrorists that were traded for him, and the lives that will be lost in the future because of the trade.

        Sometimes, you have to weigh the consequences of your actions…this Private (no reason to promote him) already cost the lives of 6 loyal troops who went looking for him, and those Commanders who were released had plotted the deaths of thousands of Americans, Americans died during their captures, and when they go back to their jobs as terrorists, they’ll be even more dangerous than they were in the past because they will have more creed with the monsters they serve with.
        We had two Marines imprisoned in Mexico, tortured on a daily basis, and threatened with death. Where was leave no man behind then? Both of those men actually had served with honor and distinction….no deals made for them, their families weren’t greeted by the President in the Rose Garden either.

      • We bring our soldiers home… even sc*mbag deserters.. .we bring them home.
        they may be sc*mbags, but they are our sc*mbags.
        the Rose Garden welcome was completely inappropriate… I agree.
        I am also not happy about the five for one trade.
        I feel it was too much.|prisoner exchanges are not unusual at all… but five for one was steep.

        And there were no Marines captured and tortured in Mexico.
        We are not at war with Mexico.

        If you are talking about the civilian who was a Marine reservist who was arrested in Mexico for breaking the law… he was processed by the Mexican justice system.
        When Americans break the law in foreign countries, they go to jail there.

  8. And don’t forget “we don’t leave men behind” – well, except for the marine who’s still there, and the priest who’s still there, and who weren’t even brought up in the “negotiations” (read cave-in) for iran to have nukes. Oh, and Sgt. Tahmooressi, who was negotiated for by private citizens and local officials, and the prez didn’t lift a finger to even make a call.

    But hey, he traded a traitor for 5 high-ranking officials, so yeah, there’s that.

    • Tahmooressi was a civilian who got caught breaking the law in a friendly nation… not a prisoner being held by the enemy.
      That’s what happens when you break the law in other countries.
      That is a ridiculous comparison.

      What American Marine and American priest are being held by the Taliban that you think we aren’t trying to get released?

      Oh.. and negotiating with our adversaries is what our government is supposed to do.
      It’s called diplomacy.

      • I didn’t say Taliban. I said Iran, and I said they weren’t brought up in the nuke negotiations.

        The Priest is Saeed Abedini and he was building an orphanage in iran – with government approval – when he was arrested.

        http://demoss.com/newsrooms/aclj/background/backgrounder-pastor-saeed-abedini

        And the traitor left his military equipment, shipped his computer home, and walked off the base. He was caught because he made no secret of his position, and walked TO the enemy. Tahmooressi simply took a wrong turn, he wasn’t deserting – he was honorably discharged after 2 tours and was here for treatment for PTSD.

        http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/apr/2/iranian-deal-silent-fate-us-prisoners-held-tehran/

      • You said there was a priest and a Marine who were “still there” in a comment on an article about Bergdahl, who was held by the Taliban… so it was reasonable to assume you were not talking about Iran… but the Taliban.

        Bergdahl, though a deserter, was in the hands of the enemy.

        Tahmooressi was not in the hands of the enemy… he broke the law in Mexico and went though their court system
        he should be very grateful he was released.
        The US does not, and should not intervene, when an American is jailed in a friendly country for breaking the law there.
        He did not take a wrong turn.
        Research his story.
        he admitted his initial story about making a wrong turn and not meaning to go into Mexico was a lie.

        As to the Pastor and former Marine in Iran.
        that is terribble.
        our nation is currently negotiating with Iran and I hope that their release is part of any deal

      • So you didn’t comprehend that when I said

        “except for the marine who’s still there, and the priest who’s still there, and who weren’t even brought up in the “negotiations” (read cave-in) for iran to have nukes.”

        where I SAID iran, that I MEANT iran?

        Regardless of if YOU think the US shouldn’t intervene when another country holds an American, my point was – again, AS I SAID –

        “the prez didn’t lift a finger to even make a call.”

        And just as an FYI – the law on such matters disagrees with you.

        U.S. Code, Title 22, Chapter 23, Section 1732. It is entitled, “Release of citizens imprisoned by foreign governments.”

        Whenever it is made known to the President that any citizen of the United States has been unjustly deprived of his liberty by or under the authority of any foreign government, it shall be the duty of the President forthwith to demand of that government the reasons of such imprisonment; and if it appears to be wrongful and in violation of the rights of American citizenship, the President shall forthwith demand the release of such citizen, and if the release so demanded is unreasonably delayed or refused, the President shall use such means, not amounting to acts of war and not otherwise prohibited by law, as he may think necessary and proper to obtain or effectuate the release; and all the facts and proceedings relative thereto shall as soon as practicable be communicated by the President to Congress.

      • The government has been negotiating to release the prisoners being held in Iran.

        And the government did not intervene in the case of Tahmooressi in Mexico, because he was NOT being held unjustly.

        My reading comprehension is fine.

      • Tahmooressi broke the law and there was zero reason or justification for the US government to intervened in the legal proceedings of an allied country.

        That is a fact

        It is also a fact that the US government has been working to free the citizens being held in Iran.

        these are facts you just don’t want to deal with

      • Wow… maybe you should scroll up and read your first comment… the one I initially responded to.
        The one where you wrote….

        ******************
        “Oh, and Sgt. Tahmooressi, who was negotiated for by private citizens and
        local officials, and the prez didn’t lift a finger to even make a call.”
        *******************

        You then quoted yourself in this later response…

        *************
        “the prez didn’t lift a finger to even make a call.”

        And just as an FYI – the law on such matters disagrees with you.

        U.S. Code, Title 22, Chapter 23, Section 1732. It is entitled, “Release of citizens imprisoned by foreign governments.”

        Whenever it is made known to the President that any citizen of the United States has been unjustly deprived of his liberty by or under the authority of any foreign government, it shall be the duty of the President forthwith to demand of that government the reasons of such imprisonment; and if it appears to be wrongful and in violation of the rights of American citizenship, the President shall forthwith demand therelease of such citizen, and if the release so demanded is unreasonablydelayed or refused, the President shall use such means, not amounting to acts of war and not otherwise prohibited by law, as he may think necessary and proper to obtain or effectuate the release; and all the facts and proceedings relative thereto shall as soon as practicable be communicated by the President to Congress.
        **********************

        Those were your words… I pointed out that the US government was right to stay out of it because he was NOT held unjustly…. and you responded by suggesting that I changed the conversation or accused you of saying something you didn’t.

        Do you seriously not remember what you wrote?
        You wrote that the President was obligated to act on Tahmooressi’s behalf and cited a law that does not apply.
        i pointed out that it doesn’t apply because he was not held unjustly.

        And you are now arguing you didn’t say that???

      • OK ONE more time.

        YOU are the one who said anything about requiring the president to call about Tahmoressi, because your opinion is that it wasn’t warranted. Your opinion differs from many, MANY others. It is the president’s call – and his call was to leave an innocent marine in jail in Mexico and rescue one he KNEW had deserted (the NCIS report was from 2009). Regardless of that fact, I NEVER said it was required, I said the president didn’t make the call. He didn’t.

        You ALSO said – blanket statement – “The US does not, and should not intervene, when an American is jailed in a friendly country for breaking the law there.” – which is simply wrong.

        And finally – what I SAID was that the Americans still being held in iran ” weren’t even brought up in the “negotiations” (read cave-in) for iran to have nukes.” THEY WEREN’T. The administration admitted it.

        You keep saying the government is working to free citizens being held in iran. One, I see no evidence of that beyond the spokesmodels SAYING they are “asking” for their release. Two, it’s not what I said.

        So, you keep trying to move the goalposts, keep trying to misinterpret what I actually said, and keep pushing your agenda. It’s adorable.

      • 1. The State Department has stated that they are still trying to release the prisoners in Iran.
        You are assuming that they aren’t.
        You do NOT know what is being talked about in negotiations.
        Essentially. you are calling the State Department liars based solely on your assumptions.

        You say you see no evidence so you don’t believe it. That’s your problem. Do you honestly expect to be kept informed on every thing said during closed door negotiations?

        2. Tahmooressi was not some poor innocent.
        He broke the law in a foreign nation and went through that nation’s justice system. He was treated fairly and had his day in court.
        There was no reason for the administration to intervene on behalf of a criminal who was not being treated unfairly.

        And no… we don’t intervene in cthe judicial process in foreign countries where our citizens break the law and are being treated fairly.
        We do when we feel they are being treated unfairly.
        Your blind belief that we should interfere all the time is absurd and simply not how international treaties work.

        I’m not moving any goalposts or pushing any agenda.

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