New York Times self-censors; Holder can’t say we’re at war with radical Islam. You really think a rally matters? [VIDEO]

Recently, I was asked to comment on whether or not we’re turning a page in the conflagration against Islamo-fascism and jihadism after last week’s horrific attacks in Paris. Everyone seems to believe because of the mass rallies, there is a new sentiment.

I tend to disagree — although I pray we are finally willing to push political correctness aside. I fear these rallies are just the typical immediate reaction from those of us in the West — only to be quelled by our short attention span and the relentless news cycle. Will this just be another “#BringBackOurGirls” episode? And as a matter of fact, is Boko Haram still around, did we do anything against them, and did we ever get the girls back? Uh, I think you see my point.

Additional testimony to my skepticism comes from the actions of the venerable “newspaper of record,” the New York Times. As reported by The Daily Caller, “When Islamic terrorists expressly tell their victims why they’re being attacked, our mainstream media will do anything to cover it up. They’ll change the subject, they’ll blame the victims… they’ll even stealth-edit their own copy.”

“Here’s the latest example of the New York Times censoring itself to avoid offending Muslims after an act of Islamic terror. This morning, BenK at Ace of Spades quoted a New York Times story by Liz Alderman titled “Survivors Retrace a Scene of Horror at Charlie Hebdo.” Take note of these two paragraphs from that story:

“Sigolène Vinson, a freelancer who had decided to come in that morning to take part in the meeting, thought she would be killed when one of the men approached her. Instead, she told French news media, the man said, “I’m not going to kill you because you’re a woman, we don’t kill women, but you must convert to Islam, read the Quran and cover yourself,” she recalled.”

However, as they say in football — “upon further review, the call on the field is reversed” – because this is what it now states in the Times:

“Sigolène Vinson, a freelance journalist who had come in that morning to take part in the meeting, said that when the shooting started, she thought she would be killed. Ms. Vinson said in an interview that she dropped to the floor and crawled down the hall to hide behind a partition, but one of the gunmen spotted her and grabbed her by the arm, pointing his gun at her head.

Instead of pulling the trigger, though, he told her she would not be killed because she was a woman. “Don’t be afraid, calm down, I won’t kill you,” the gunman told her in a steady voice, with a calm look in his eyes, she recalled. “You are a woman. But think about what you’re doing. It’s not right.”

Well, as you can clearly see, anything about having to convert to Islam, read the Koran or cover herself was cut. It’s now so sanitized that, well, you might even empathize with these savages and somehow believe them to be human — “steady voice, calm in his eyes.”

Therefore, no, I don’t believe we’re turning a page in the fight against Islamic totalitarianism, Islamic terrorism, and jihadism. It was CNN’s Christiane Amanapour who referred to these animals as “activists.”

Unless this cultural jihadist apologist sentiment in the West changes, our policy will never change. We continue to invite folks on national media to hiss “islamophobia” as a deterrent to bring about self-censoring. Which to me is just the non-kinetic means to the same end the two Islamic terrorist brothers sought at Charlie Hebdo.

As the Daily Caller piece explains, “Why would you specifically take out the part about the Islamic terrorist proselytizing for Islam in the middle of the terrorist attack? Why delete this woman’s account of being threatened at gunpoint and being told to convert to Islam? That’s easy. Because you’re one of America’s moral, ethical, and intellectual betters, and you don’t want it to be true. Your reporter hastily left that inconvenient truth in her story by accident, so you airbrushed it out, without any acknowledgment, to preserve the narrative. You turned it into, “Hey, maybe these guys aren’t so bad after all. They didn’t kill the women, right? Let’s not be too hasty.”

For some very odd reason the progressive socialist intelligentsia prefers not to acknowledge this enemy. Heck, we can’t even get our Attorney General Eric Holder to make a definitive statement. Again. from The Daily Caller, “In two separate instances Sunday morning, Attorney General Eric Holder refused to follow the lead of France and declare that the U.S. is at war with radical Islam in the aftermath of the brutal attack on the Charlie Hebdo offices on Wednesday. Instead, Holder, who was pressed by both NBC’s Chuck Todd and ABC’s George Stephanopolous with the same exact question, said that the U.S is at war with “terrorists” who “corrupt the Islamic faith” or use a “corrupted version of Islam.”

“The French Prime Minister declared that France is at war with radical Islam. Would you say the United States is at war with radical Islam?” Todd asked Holder. “I would say that we are at war with terrorists who commit these heinous acts and who use Islam, they use a corrupted version of Islam, to justify their actions,” Holder told Todd on “Meet The Press.” “We are bound and determined to hold them accountable, to find them wherever they are.”

So why all of this equivocating? Why does the Obama administration see this as some law enforcement action? Heck, they don’t even want to detain those we’ve taken off the battlefield as they continue to secretly release GITMO Islamic terrorists. And don’t tell me they’re “low risk” — that was how the French classified the now dead perpetrators from last week.

Perhaps Eric Holder should spend more time going after Islamic terrorists and defining them as such, instead of pursuing General David Petraeus — who by the way spent a good deal of his life fighting against Islamic terrorists.

Rallies and hashtag campaigns are the typical response — but yield no results. This enemy only respects and regards strength and might. And as long as we in the West refuse to get into the ring and smack them right in the mouth, they perceive our weakness, and continue to attack. Again, I remind you of Alexander the Great’s famed quote: “I am not afraid of an army of lions led by a sheep; I am afraid of an army of sheep led by a lion.”

What do you think Islamic terrorists and jihadists see in our “leaders” — sheep or lions?

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Justsomedude58
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Is it any wonder that people think Obama is a Muslim?

FlyButanol
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Perhaps because he is?

HD1683
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Erik, you worthless POS… go away.

Susan Ford Keller
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BO and the WH are working overtime so he can hand our country over to “violent extremists” before he leaves office in 2 years……

Uncle Ruckus
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And idiots grow on trees!!

Jay Kenney
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i wonder how many of these fruits and nuts are from southern California and Florida. To say nothing about trailer park America. 🙂

delrayman
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And Robert Heinlein said ” Once monkeys learn they can vote themselves bananas, they will never climb another tree”…

Susan Ford Keller
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Bravely spoken behind your pseudonym…

Flower
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So what, he spoke the truth! Just because you use a real name, doesn’t mean bupkis online.

Susan Ford Keller
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Hmmm….it appears you upvoted me….which must have been an accident. Would you like a recount?

Flower
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Sorry??

Uncle Ruckus
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As House Republicans continue to their push to defund Homeland Security because of the president’s executive actions on immigration, President Obama will be holding a White House summit on countering violent extremism in February.

elle
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His executive actions on immigration are castration to Homeland Security – something the slaves realized as they were taken to the east by the Arabs so go ahead and spread eagle Earl MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Mamatex
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The basic problem started when they rolled the Immigration department to Homeland Security and it became one Gigantic Bureaucratic Nightmare. While certainly parts of illegal Imigration threaten Homeland security there are more basic differences. Think people from Central and South American Countries who just want to work hard and make a better living vs those who are intent on waging Jihad.

elle
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that’s way too much for Earl Lee aka poor old angry negro Uncle Ruckus to comprehend – don’t, I repeat, don’t overload him. . . .after all is said and done we do have sympathy for him LOL

Jay Kenney
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Give us some REAL proof that Jihadists are coming across the Mexican border.

elle
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Go rent a cheap place that looks out over the border and see for yourself – in fact you can stand out there and offer food and water to them, let them spend the night at your dump, help them out. Seems like an endeavor you may be considering in your old age lol. Try Brownsville, lots of places available lol.

Jay Kenney
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We prefer Sanibel, Island, FL.

Mamatex
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In an article from Jihad Watch dated 9/19/2014′ Congressional Hearings on the subject are discussed in some detail, including those giving testimony. One of the topics was the aprhension of 4 Individuals tide to terrorist organizations in the Middle East. surely you do not believe all are “apprehended” ?

Jay Kenney
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Do you research your sources? I know I research mine. Jihad Watch, eh? “Jihad Watch is a blog affiliated with the David Horowitz Freedom Center. Run by Catholic blogger Robert Spencer,[2][3][4][5][6]it has been described as one of the main homes of the anti-Islamic, right-wing counterjihad movement on the internet.[7]”

http://archive.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=2709

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/12/spencer-2011-the-islamic-supremacists-advance

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0608/10/gb.01.html

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0610/23/gb.01.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/31/opinion/sunday/the-rise-of-the-macro-nationalists.html?_r=2&

Glenn Beck? Really? The same guy who believes aliens are being held at Area 51? Great source.

elle
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Cause those anti-islamics gosh we all have to be on the watch for them. Wow now those are some dangerous folks. . .

It’s a downright COUNTER JIHAD MOVEMENT ! !

Jay Kenney
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Yup. That .001% of Muslims represent all Muslims. 1.6 billion I believe.

sumsrent
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You quote… as is it’s bad: “… described as one of the main homes of the anti-Islamic, right-wing counterjihad movement on the internet.”
Q: Is there something wrong with that?
A satanic worshipping muslim wants me killed because his government cloaked in a religion tells him to do so…
And…
My countering his jihadist approach… to cause all my loved ones to either submit to it or be executed… is wrong?
Wow! Pirate Boy… you should really think about what your copying and pasting…

Mamatex
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Frankly, I am surprised that you are critical of some of my sources and yet you rely on CNN and the NY Times, neither of which are bastions of journalistic integrity. For the record, I do not rely upon Glenn Beck nor do I listen to him. Did you even read Robert Spencer’s Bio or do you know anything about David Horowitz? And if you are in the least bit objective, you would at least acknowledge the Congressional Hearing questions and answers. Have a nice day.

elle
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No he isn’t the least bit objective – he’s still arguing over Reagan and wanting to go give Ollie a thousand lashes.

Jay Kenney
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Yeah, I checked on Horowitz. A former communist, Black Panther supporter and Bertran Russell advocate who became a right wing a right wing activist and agitator who is not fully supported by conservatives who still question his communist roots.

I’ve read enough about Robert Spencer to understand that he is another Islamophobe who trades on bigotry and hate. He stands with Ayn Rand, identified with JihadWatch, founded the hate group, SIOA. Hardly objective sources.

elle
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Yes he is an Islamophobe who we should all be terrified out of our minds over lol – oh my goodness is that Robert Spencer in a video beheading some poor innocent soul.

Jay Kenney
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To reply is pointless.

delrayman
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The summit they had originally scheduled for OCTOBER but forgot to have.

Uncle Ruckus
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Could care less what he calls it….as long as those missiles keep killing these clowns!

Jay Kenney
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The dark side of me says it’s time to get out or use tactical nukes. Especially in eastern Yemen. This is WWIII. Leave, or pull out the stops. I prefer we leave!

elle
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Hold up there gramps, you already bowed down to islam, you can’t start talking WWIII you are killing me here old man!

Make up your feeble old mind here, need some more rum?

Jay Kenney
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I prefer mezcal.

Flower
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I bet you’re really going to like your dhimmitude…

Jay Kenney
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“Dhimmitude?” Do a little more research, Flower. All I found were Islamophobe authors.

elle
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Islamophobe authors – are you daft? Your drivel is quite frankly astounding!

Jay Kenney
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Because I just got good news from the hospital. And if you don’t like the results of my internet search, don’t blame me.

Flower
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He’s a left wing moonbat, elle, it’s what we’ve come to expect. 🙂

elle
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Again you haven’t done your homework gramps – come on now what kind of example are you making here. Do you really want dhimmitude to even be something our future Americans have to consider as they decide to put their foreheads to the ground and their backsides up in the air for “Allah” lol or die as their beloved wives and daughters, sisters and mothers are taken away because of the likes of you?

Go back into the history of islam, that wonderful religion of peace you are pulling for so hard.

Jay Kenney
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Need I counter with OT verses of the same ilk?

Flower
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if you AREN’T an “Islamophobe” then something is wrong with you!

elle
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early onset dementia?

Jay Kenney
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Your, “religion” condones hate? I prefer Christ’s philosophy.

elle
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You better do a closer check on His philosophy.

Christ would not take kindly to the way islam has bastardized his image. Not at all. In fact he would right away remind us that we are not to acknowledge false prophets.

I thought you were some what read on the gospels. My mistake. Jesus would be tearing down those false houses of worship called mosques. He would be very busy doing that for sure. That’s all before he even got to the Vatican lol.

Jay Kenney
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Interesting claim. Islam began AFTER Christ. Unless of course unless you speak to Him directly.

Flower
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Wish I could give you several thumbs up for that one! Amen and AMEN!

elle
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Back At You 🙂

Flower
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Right … He was SO kind and loving when He drove the money changers out of the temple …

Like that, you mean. 🙂

Uncle Ruckus
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Try another MYTH!!!

elle
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Like the myth that you “served with honor” LMAO

Flower
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I know it’s hard to swallow your own ignorance, but you will when you are being enslaved . . .

elle
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and burning

Jay Kenney
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And I challenge you with this, Flower: “Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.
Friedrich Nietzsche
It is your ignorance that frightens me. What do you propose to do with the 1.3 billion Muslims in the world?

elle
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Repentance would be a start.

Nietzsche – Interesting he challenged traditional morality and then died of syphilis. What’s one to take from that?

Jay Kenney
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I’ve done my repentance.

Flower
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Study the Bible, Jay. It will change YOUR world view.

Uncle Ruckus
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un huh….sure…yea…ok

elle
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hate to burst your little old dried up bubble, snopes is sort of been snopes LOL – catch up will you. Ok, cause I do feel sorry for your poor wanna be Christian self, here’s a hint: they are just a husband and wife team making money on the internet, in other words unreliable. Just don’t quote them or use them to make your case

they are shamming you old angry negro, you better get onto them!

Flower
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Not only are they a husband & wife team, they are LIBERALS! THAT is why they are unreliable!

Uncle Ruckus
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And how can republicans threaten to not fund Homeland Security at this time?

elle
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Obama duh. . . . .

Uncle Ruckus
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So once again…republicans are willing to put the security of this nation in jeopardy for political purposes?? You don’t have to wonder why I call you people DOMESTIC TORRIST!!

Flower
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Uncle Pruneface, FYI, our security is at risk on the southern border that your buddy, Obama refuses to secure!

Uncle Ruckus
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Hmmmm….lets see….never as many border agents on the southern border….deportations more under OBAMA! REFUSE??? Seems he is doing exactly what he is suppose to do!

Flower
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The Border Patrol has been ordered to be 10 miles NORTH of the border! Don’t liberals EVER pay attention to what is really happening in this country?!

Jay Kenney
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Spot on!

delrayman
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They are going to fund everything but his illegal immigrants.
Now it’s your turn. How come 0bama didn’t go to Paris ??

Jay Kenney
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Because his subordinates withheld it from him. Of course, FOX probably didn’t broadcast that report.

elle
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Those darn subordinates – completely out of control!!!!! They need sharia!!!!! At least 1,000 lashes and 6 months in prison for withholding this from him

ROTFLMAO!

Jay Kenney
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As I posted. Example of poor management.

elle
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yes, from the start

Jay Kenney
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Try writing a more definitive post.

delrayman
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That’s The WhiteHouse spin on it…And laughable…Holder was in Paris… but he wanted to get back to watch the Playoff’s too.
You’re a good 0bamaBot.
Fox did report it but they couldn’t stop laughing either….

elle
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Holder got the hell out of town LOL

Jay Kenney
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And you will follow your Republicans over the cliff just like a good little lemming. A congress that Boehner can’t control and Mitch who has promised to block all things Obama instead of promising to pass legislation. Oh, that’s right. He supports KXL. A pipeline the Canadian provinces don’t want. No use of American steel. No Canadian liability for accidents. Canadian oil sold on the world market, the profits of which Americans will never see. Crosses the Ogallala Aquifer. 35 permanent jobs. sounds quite American to me!

Flower
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Yup! Obama is always the last to know ANYTHING. LOL!!

Uncle Ruckus
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You can’t de-fund his executive order. And to answer your question….don’t know and don’t care….he has proven himself with all the terrorist killings by drone attacks!

elle
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LOL and LMAO proven himself?

delrayman
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He killed a lot of innocent civilians in those drone strikes. Entire Wedding Parties.

Jay Kenney
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As have the Israelis. Where is your outrage about that. Take down an entire apartment building to get ONE apartment. Selective morality. BTW, I do not support the drone attacks. i don’t even support American involvement. You?

delrayman
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House Republicans plan to introduce a bill on Friday to keep the
Department of Homeland Security funded through the end of September with
a number of provisions attached that would target President Obama’s
executive actions related to immigration.

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/house-gop-craft-plan-undercut-obamas-immigration-action-n283041

Flower
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*eye roll*

Jay Kenney
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And you earned your psychiatric degree where, Flower? Furthermore, what do you know about the DSM? Nada, I expect.

Flower
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Northwest Christian College. Thanks for asking.

Jay Kenney
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Nice try, Flower. NWCC doesn’t have a medical school. Therefore, you have no degree in psychiatry. Your Messianic Judaism allows for prevarication? Do you even know what the DSM is? Without looking it up.

Flower
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It has a psychology department, oh brilliant one. Check it out. Medical departments are for those who are PSYCHIATRISTS, not PSYCHOLOGISTS. You clearly know very little…

Jay Kenney
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Funny thing to post, considering I spent 30+ years as a therapist in behavioral health.

Uncle Ruckus
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You seem to have the same disorder many right wing loons have…deny the facts syndrome! Believing myths instead of verifying FACTS

Flower
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And you have a degree in order to diagnose, oh prune face??

Uncle Ruckus
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No….oh GORILLA face….but a novice sure can diagnose!!

Flower
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You aren’t even a novice, you tragic loser!

Uncle Ruckus
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No….I would consider you the TRAGIC LOSER!! You support bigots and race baiters like ALLEN WEST!!

Mamatex
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While there are certainly “right wing loons” there are just as many “left wing loons” and sadly, the current disasters we face have developed through ignoring the Constitution for Progressive policies. A NO win situation for most as has been seen in other Countries.

Jay Kenney
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What the Hell is the, “Constitution for Progressive Policies?” I’m dying with curiosity.

Chas
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One could only hope….

Flower
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Nice revolver 😉

Jay Kenney
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Just what the Hell does that mean, Chas? Or are you just another West lemming who hides behind, “Private,” and doesn’t have the stones to stand behind your posts?”

Mamatex
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Would it suit you better, had I said ignoring the Constitution in favor of Progressive Policies? Examples are downsizing, to the point of danger, defense, gun control efforts in spite of the 2nd Ammendment. You might ask yourself where is the Constutional Authority giving him the Authority for some of his Executive Decisions on Immigration reform for example/amnesty.

Jay Kenney
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The answer is in the original, and only, Constitution. Everything Obama did was allowed the executive branch under the Constitution. Try reading it yourself for a change. I have no idea of what the “Constitution in favor of Progressive Policies,” is. Who the hell made up that, “Constitution?”

Flower
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One day you will wake up, I just pray it won’t be too late for you. May God have mercy on you.

Uncle Ruckus
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stop….u may hurt yourself!

Flower
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Put a sock in it, fool.

Flower
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The enemies of America see weakness because Obama snubbed France. Our allies do as well. Obama succeeded in embarrassing and humiliating every single American patriot! The NBA playoffs were more important to him. What a DESPICABLE human being he is!

Jay Kenney
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The “invitation” never reached Obama’s desk. A subordinate withheld it. That subordinate needs to be fired and Obama needs to review his management style and hiring of subordinates. his absence in Paris was a slap in the face to the entire world.

elle
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Your are quite naive for such an old man lol

delrayman
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” needs to review his management style”
After 6 years ???…… Valerie Jarrett runs that WhiteHouse … She wouldn’t allow Zer0bama to go.

Jay Kenney
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Exactly my point!

elle
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so you voted for him and then voted for him again. . . .

Jay Kenney
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Never posted that…

Flower
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You didn’t have to LOL!!

Jay Kenney
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Typical. Turn supposition into fact. Apparently you didn’t learn much from psychology.

Flower
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Clearly, much more than you.

Jay Kenney
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Rich! After nearly 40 years in higher education, Mr. Kenney remains among the very brightest graduate students with whom I have worked. Not content to merely walk through the curriculum or even master the concepts of a particular course, Mr. Kenney presses himself, his peers, and his professors to go beyond the boundaries of the discipline to stretch its application to the solution of yet other problems under yet other conditions. My particular discipline is counseling psychology and Mr. Kenney was well-prepared within that discipline to assume his varied positions as a counselor and program director in community mental health… Read more »
delrayman
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Your point was that 0bama wanted to go but Valerie said NO, so he drank WhiteHouse Beer and smoked cigarettes in the Oval Office Bathroom Suite with the HDTV.???

elle
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LOL – doses of medical MaryJane helped I hope – he’s like . . . . . . .the world is imploding Valerie Valerie Help Help. . . . . what do I do? LMAO! Valerie answer is keep your stupid head down fool! LOL

Jay Kenney
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Perfect atavar. Yosemite Sam is a fool and full of BS!

elle
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Do you know who Yosemite Sam is? Beyond the typical he has been used as an icon by many military units because he is aggressive – something our current leader is rather lacking.

Oh but I guess you didn’t realize that since you have been off this American patriotic thing for a while now?

Cheers.

Jay Kenney
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The cartoon character, or the character who posts here?

delrayman
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‘When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser’ –Socrates

Jay Kenney
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“Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.” Samuel Johnson

Nice try…

delrayman
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I’d much rather be a Patriotic Scoundrel than a Slanderous Loser….like you

Jay Kenney
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Slanderous? Enlighten me.

elle
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Because a patriot is always a better choice than a traitor.

elle
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Can we assume you are no longer a patriot? Just to clarify your numerous posts which happen to land all over the place 🙂

Jay Kenney
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Not your definition of patriot. But I did get my ass blown out of the sky and lost half of my B52 crew. I fly the American flag daily with a USAF banner.

elle
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Well ok then. You should get back to your good news and your wife. Good luck to you.

Flower
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riiiight …

Jay Kenney
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I believe you posted that you would stop responding to me….

Flower
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Go blow yourself.

Jay Kenney
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Really intelligent response. and you flagged me?

Flower
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Hey FRANCE, I support you, even if our lying, narcissistic idiot of a president doesn’t!

Barb3000
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Obama is a Muslim himself so he will not say one word against them. Any sitting president that would hire on members of the Muslim Brotherhood to work in his administration is the same thing as if the President during WW2 had hired Nazis to work in his administration. I can see no difference in it at all. The Muslim Brotherhood is the group that is known worldwide as the instigator and many times supplying funding for terrorist attacks. You wonder just why isn’t the offices of this organization shut down and the members deported? Because they are Obama’s friends.… Read more »
JenniferP
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We all know BO was raised Muslim. What is Holder’s current religious affiliation? Does he attend services anywhere on a regular basis? Just curious

elle
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He wasn’t just raised a Muslim – he was born a Muslim.

Jay Kenney
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Eye witness testimony is notoriously inaccurate. But coming from West I am not surprised. After all, he grabbed up and beat the wrong policeman in Iraq. West is using you to line his own pockets with your money, yet you are blind!

recarterjr007
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Muslims like Jay Kenney know all about inaccurate testimony, because their founder Mohammed was a liar, and his book of lies, the Koran, teaches his followers that lying is perfectly acceptable.

Jay Kenney
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I’m Irish Catholic. With Celt and Pagan thrown in.

Flower
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Pagan isn’t a blood line, it’s a religion . . .

Jay Kenney
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Never posted it was a blood line. More supposition.

Flower
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The way you worded it, indeed you did. But that’s ok, we don’t expect excellence from low-information, anti-Semitic voters…

papa_r0n
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Jay Kenney, Today you get the award for ” STUPID ” response !
Unfortunately, Ya Just can’t fix ” STUPID ” !!

Jay Kenney
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Read the facts of the case, papa!

papa_r0n
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THERE IS NO CASE….ONLY QUOTED STATEMENTS !
DO YOU KNOW THE DIFFERENCE !!
TRY READING IT REAL SLOW and MAYBE YOU’LL GET IT !!!

Jay Kenney
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papa? The case was based on West’s own statements. He accepted a plea agreement and left his subordinates swinging in the breeze. Drill down.

elle
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Believe me when I say, his subordinates swinging those punches you are weeping over wanting more than anything to keep swinging them 🙂

Do you think Allen West forced those soldiers by gunpoint to show that POS some love? Those maggots were killing us, exactly what are you expecting old man?

War isn’t pretty or sweet – thought you knew that. . . .

Jay Kenney
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Do your research. That Iraqi cop that West allowed to give a good old fashioned beating was innocent and set up by a “friend” and are you telling me 5 combat experienced men didn’t search for a weapon? So they could claim they believed he was going for a weapon. A rookie cop could do a better job.

elle
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Still don’t have a problem with it, any of it. Time sensitive interrogations are what they are. You have a very brief window of time and it is a war zone.

Jay Kenney
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So, what the VC and NVA did to my military brothers is OK in your book?

elle
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I didn’t say that. I said I don’t have a problem with what West did, not what they did. And what West did does not come close to what they did.

Jay Kenney
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No. You didn’t post that. But the question I posed is the logical extension of your logic. Or are you one of those who believes in situational ethics; i.e., OK for us to do but not them.

elle
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I’m ok with not giving the enemy unconditional love. I’ve made my own personal peace with that.

You can take what you know of my personal morals and ethnics which is very little btw and run with them as far as you can. But they are mine.

I see no point in having a theological discussion with you.

Jay Kenney
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Never advocated “unconditional love.’ Please let me know where I did that.

You made you personal and ethics quite clearly by not answering my question. Something quite predictable with you lemmings.

I never implied it was a theological discussion. Ya got that wrong, too. It’s a matter of moral principles.

http://psychology.about.com/od/developmentalpsychology/a/kohlberg.htm

elle
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Welcome to the new age gramps 🙂 More into PSYOPS/SURVIVAL vs moral development, although that does come up occasionally. I said I am ok with not giving unconditional love to the enemy. That statement didn’t include you 🙂 Here’s your answer you so badly seem to need from me: Yes I am ok with killing the enemy and I am not ok with them killing me. Yes I will put a bullet in your head, and yes I will put a knife in your neck. And yes I will kick you and beat you half to death if you are… Read more »
Jay Kenney
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You, too, hide behind, “Private.” Cowardly. I will no longer respond.

Flower
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Well at LEAST you were smart enough to know when it’s hot in the kitchen to get out! LOL!!

elle
Guest

Good, then don’t. I value my privacy for a variety of reasons. Some are personal, most are professional. Deal with it LOL.

Flower
Guest

Like Col Peters said the other day, “we should go in, kill them, leave a pile of smoldering rubble and weeping widows, then get OUT.” AMEN to that!

elle
Guest

Yes, it is written for those who can discern – for those who cannot please step to the rear and shut the hell up 🙂

Flower
Guest

I’d truly love to see Earl Lee, Jay, Rafael and all their little friends on THIS comment thread! http://pamelageller.com/2015/01/white-house-obama-will-fight-media-to-stop-anti-jihad-articles.html/

elle
Guest

Not sure they are brave enough lol

Flower
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One thing is certain, there are enough Patriots on Pam Geller’s comment threads that they would be ripped to shreds in a very short time 😉

Flower
Guest

Who is lining West’s pockets here, little girl? We sure aren’t! It costs nothing to read his blogs. Do YOU pay????

Jay Kenney
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No I don’t. And I don’t buy any of his crap either.

Flower
Guest

You buy ALL of what he says or you wouldn’t be here.

elle
Guest

So on top of everything else we have learned about you, children’s literature is also something you are against? LOL

Jay Kenney
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West’s? Sure.

elle
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Yes, tell us : Who is lining his pockets?

Jay Kenney
Guest

Anyone who buys Wests’ merchandise.

Flower
Guest

Well you certainly READ it, so in a way, you’re buying it, buddy!

Jay Kenney
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Hardly!

Flower
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You’re HERE, that says it all! LMSBO!

Jay Kenney
Guest

My wife is in ICU. All else is meaningless.

Flower
Guest

then why are you here? It’s apparently MEANINGFUL for you to continue harassing patriots!