Warfare hits new low of absurdity: British soldiers told not to yell at terror suspects

Here we go again, as political correctness makes warfare a joke.

Obviously, those of us in Western civilization have to do better in our relationships with jihadists. Hillary Clinton admonished us to empathize with the perspective of our enemy and respect them. Sen. Dianne Feinstein last week released what was termed the “torture report” — which was nothing more than a Senate Democrat partisan political stunt with the backing of the White House.

And now this ridiculous revelation from our cousins across the Atlantic.

As reported by the UK Telegraph, “British soldiers have “lost their capability” to interrogate terrorist insurgents because of strict new rules on questioning that even ban shouting in captives’ ears, military chiefs have warned. The rules — detailed in court papers obtained by The Telegraph — also prevent military intelligence officers from banging their fists on tables or walls, or using “insulting words” when interrogating a suspect.”

The regulations replaced a previous policy that had to be withdrawn after a series of legal challenges and the death in custody of Baha Mousa, an Iraqi detainee in Basra. But there is growing disquiet within the ranks that the latest guidelines, officially called Challenge Direct, are so stringent that it makes interrogation pointless.”

As I mentioned last week, why don’t we just stop fighting Islamic terrorists and jihadists all together? I suppose the end result will be giving the terrorists tea and having Oprah Winfrey come in and asking them what hurts their inner self? Or maybe we can play repetitive games of tic-tac-toe with captured jihadists.

How have we come to this point in dealing with an enemy that crucifies, beheads, and disembowels people — and please spare me the “we are better than them” argument — of course we are. But to get to the pointwhere we don’t want to hurt the enemy’s feelings is unconscionable.

You can’t yell, shout, use insulting language? That’s the basis of military basic training. Yes, we even water board our own military members as part of SERE (Survival, Evasion, Resistance, Escape) training.

Here is the perplexing issue. You can’t kill jihadis and terrorists — first the ROE (rules of engagement) are restrictive (and if you violate them you’ll be sentenced to Ft. Leavenworth prison). If you capture jihadists and terrorists you can’t detain them — President Obama and his minions on the left believe that GITMO violates standards of human rights, so they’re released to hang out in places like Uruguay. You can’t shout at them, use tough language or basically show any anger that they are jihadists and terrorists who want to kill you — just show them some love!

So yeah, we just might as well stop fighting — at least until we get civilian leadership that gets it and understand this is a war.

As the Telegraph reports, “British military chiefs fear the current restrictions on Army interrogators are hindering the gathering of information. They insist interrogations can be vital in thwarting future terrorist attacks and in combating insurgents in hostile environments. Col Tim Collins, who made a celebrated eve-of-battle speech during the Iraq war and now runs a private security company with expertise in intelligence gathering, said: “Since I was serving, the rules on interrogations have been tightened up because of the lawyers. We [the military] are no longer able to carry out tactical questioning. “The effect of the ambulance-chasing lawyers and the play-it-safe judges is that we have got to the point where we have lost our operational capability to do tactical questioning. That in itself brings risks to the lives of the people we deploy. “These insurgents are not nice people. These are criminals. They behead people; they keep sex slaves. They are not normal people.”

I couldn’t agree more with Col Collins — these unlawful enemy combatants and savage barbaric animals are living in the 7th century. They don’t operate on the same cultural wavelength and standards of decency. Yet, we continue to kowtow to those who feel they know better for America.

Lord Alan West, the former First Sea Lord and national security adviser,(and probably not a relation), said: “We have gone too far in letting people take us to court. “While these insurgents are chopping people’s heads off and raping women, the idea they can take us to court because somebody shouted at them is ridiculous.”

Yes sir, it is ridiculous, but we are treating this like a police action where these unlawful combatants are supposed to have our national rights, just l the same as our citizens have. We bestow upon them constitutional rights and give them lawyers.

Once upon a time in the history of warfare, when someone was captured operating on the battlefield in civilian attire, he was immediately tried and executed as a spy. The danger of non-state, non-uniformed belligerents in and around civilians was recognized, but today we allow them to operate freely in the shadows and grant them far too much leniency. Just check out the pictures of the jihadists recently released from GITMO to Uruguay and the freedom they have.

“In an interview with The Telegraph, Michael Fallon, the Defence Secretary, voices his concern about the legal scrutiny on British troops. He says he is gravely concerned about the rising cost of legal cases “that turn out to be completely spurious”. He added: “What’s important for us is to understand the legal scrutiny that we are under all the time now, the cases that are being brought sometimes spuriously by law firms representing people who claim they were wrongly detained.“ Our Armed Forces are under a huge degree of scrutiny.” He said he feared this could inhibit commanders in the field in future.”

It’s not just affecting commanders in the field for the future, it’s affecting them now — as well as the morale of our warriors who feel like Sisyphus, rolling a boulder uphill, only to have it crash back down on them.

These are inane policies by which we ignore sound and effective policies to prosecute combat operations against islamo-fascism, jihadists, and terrorists and tie the hands of our warriors.

We cannot win this way by “empathizing” with this vile enemy or considering their feelings. I am quite sure they are laughing at us and using this as yet another propaganda tool to paint us as weak, feckless, and effete — they are the strong tribe. They’re raping, pillaging and beheading, and we’re issuing orders not to yell, shout, or use bad language?

Folks, we are so losing this conflagration at every level. This must end and we must find more Churchills and send the damn Neville Chamberlains home. The combat battlefield is not the place for political correctness and misguided sympathy.

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John McMickle
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This proves it our political leaders are stark raving lunatics.

CheetoBuster
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What do you expect from the British…they are going under fast!

Kikmor Boutte
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Two Questions – Do you think Michelle Obama is okay with the young girl genital mutilations that occur within this religion of peace? Will she subject her daughters to it? She has been pretty damn quiet on the issue and from what I understand it has been occurring here in the U.S.

Shod Pell
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That’s ’cause obama’s man wife is a guy. Got no opinion on what he ain’t got.

John Francis Russo
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Don’t interrogate terrorists. Just execute them.

Miklynn
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Time for the introduction of new bills regarding Christian and terrorist’s rights along with the ambulance chasing lawyers and activists! Lets start with CAIR, FFR, Jackson and Sharpton! http://shoebat.com/2014/12/12/christian-man-asks-thirteen-gay-bakeries-bake-pro-traditional-marriage-cake-denied-service-watch-shocking-video/

Miklynn
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Sandra Brooks Johnson Crawford
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Sandra Brooks Johnson Crawford

The real war on women begins when Sharia Law takes over-believe me no one in their right mind wants their daughter under Sharia Law-they have to wear coverings even when it 120 degrees and are so afraid they won’t even speak to an uncovered woman or a child-I had some for neighbors-their husbands are their Gods and they are scared to death of them with good reason-wake up America

Philanthropussy
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the Brits should be more like Americans who believe sticking humus up a terrorist ass will make him talk.

Andy Martin
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Or you could blow them.

Nannette McGowan
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Typical liberal lie. The anal hydration and feeding was a medical procedure done on those who had been on hunger strikes. I bet you agreed with media pundit Leslie Stahl when she was so upset when she found out the terrorists were given Ensure nutritional supplement. She was so OMG, “You mean Ensure, like they give to sick people in the hospital” OMG!!! How freaking stupid. As if we give Ensure to hospital patients to torture them, nutritional supplements to torture them rather than for nutritional reasons? I guess that’s so much worse than sex slaves, crucifixions, beheadings that the… Read more »
Philanthropussy
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Paint it like you want, this country has no problem with ass play!!!
BS, Bush didn’t authorize touture for behaeding, sex slaves, etc.

Andy Martin
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Hey look, if you wanna suk off the terrorists , then goody for you and move your punk azz to England.

Philanthropussy
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Why do I have to leave BEC you think i don’t like it here? You fools are the one’s complaining bout Pbama, the dems , liberals, feminist, MSNBC, CNN, etc. You leave, I’m happy with an imperfect country. Screw you!!!

Andy Martin
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You can leave or go, your call. But if you want to whine about terrorists getting waterboarded, then take your azz to England where it seems they kiss theor ase as you do. Keep sukin.

Philanthropussy
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no

Andy Martin
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Open wider ISIS sukker.

Philanthropussy
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you would know better about their size.

Andy Martin
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I know you often talk with your mouth full of terrorists.

Philanthropussy
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I thought you said my voice relaxes you while they rape your ass. Opps, it’s not rape if you beg for it.

Andy Martin
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I got your mammy beggin’ for it hor.

Philanthropussy
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and when you are finished with her, my grandma wants seconds.

Andy Martin
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Gum jobs are fine. You’ll be third.

Philanthropussy
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Sorry, the ISIS party wears me out.

Nannette McGowan
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So Obama using drones to kill terrorists, but ignoring the number of civilians killed in the process, is SO much more HUMANE than capturing and interrogating terrorists? I’ve even heard people of your mind set claim “Yes, it’s more humane than interrogation because Muslims would rather die than be captured.” No, Bush authorized the interrogations you liberals pretend were “torture” because nearly 3,000 innocent people were killed on 9/11/2001. All those who were supposedly “tortured” were bin Laden’s and people like you praise Obama for the death of bin Laden that wouldn’t have occurred without the info from the interrogations.
Philanthropussy
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I’m peeing in my pants!!!!! Obama dropping drones!!!! Gee, how many republicans thought Clinton was wrong when he didn’t drop a bomb on Bin Laden bec he Clinton didn’t want to kill innocent people????http://www.gopusa.com/news/2014/08/01/bill-clinton-claims-he-could-have-killed-osama-bin-laden/
The truth is soooooooooooo convenient to you fools.
I never said I disagree with the report, all I said was now we know how far this country is willing go to protect itself and it’s citizens. Plugging a butt hole with humus is par for the course.

Nannette McGowan
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As a former RN, I can guarantee it was not “humus” that they used and you chose this just as an inflamatory remark. It’s a medical procedure used to save the lives of anorexics and people with stomach disorders. If we had allowed them to starve to death, you’d be condemning the U.S. of intentionally starving them. You wouldn’t know the truth if it slapped you in the face since it doesn’t fit your propaganda narrative.

Philanthropussy
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what does that mean “as a former nurse”? Did you torture anyone? These were procures thought up by two physiatrists that were paid 87million to get info out of prisoners. What do you know about that?

Nannette McGowan
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You probably think I tortured people and think that health care professionals kill patients on purpose because liberals love to hate healthcare professionals and love to sue them. It’s probably beyond the scope of your intellegience to realize that people get old and retire and become “former” in whatever their profession might be.

Your “paid 87million (sic)” is just more liberal propaganda and BS.

Philanthropussy
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http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2014/12/the-cias-torture-program-dr-paul-craig-roberts-3076204.html

Liberals hate mental health professionals? So why is mental healthcare provided in Obamacare?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/03/obama-mental-health_n_3377808.html
BTW, I’m not knocking the fact your are retired, I’m asking why saying “former nurse,” makes you creditable to torture?

Nannette McGowan
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I see. Your only concern is mental health and think all other healthcare is torture. Hmmm??? Obamacare is insurance and NOT healthcare, you idiot.

Philanthropussy
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what? you said , liberals hate mental health professionals, dear. I corrected you.
I see you are so desperate to shut me up, you have resorted to insults. Not going to work, loser.

Nannette McGowan
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Typical of you to tell a bald faced lie. Go back and read all of my comments again, liar. I said, “Healthcare professionals” and you must have a reading comprehension problem. Of course I’ve resorted to insults because you’ve resorted to bald faced lies, you ridiculous troll.

Philanthropussy
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oh, great, “former nurse” losing her temper. You sure you weren’t pushed out? I can understand if they called you, Nurse Ratched. Personally, your the nurse from Misery.

Andy Martin
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And Slick didn’t go after OBL because he said he had nothing on him. Not because he was afraid he would hurt anyone. Slick is responsible for 911…………..

Bill Clinton on Osama Bin Laden – YouTube

► 0:48► 0:48

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wvo2lQe81xk

Sep 7, 2006 – Uploaded by paulwmendezAudio of Clinton admitting not doing anything about Bin Laden.

http://youtu.be/Wvo2lQe81xk

Philanthropussy
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dear, you are making my case. please read all comments before you feel the need to hi jack the situation.

Andy Martin
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So we agree that Slick is responsible for 911. Thank you.

Philanthropussy
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go away

Andy Martin
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Get educated before you spew next time.

Andy Martin
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[[ Gee, how many republicans thought Clinton was wrong when he didn’t drop a bomb on Bin Laden bec he Clinton didn’t want to kill innocent people???? ]]

OOPS!

http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/time/1998/10/12/clinton.kosovo.html

When U.S. embassies in Africa were car-bombed last August, Clinton sent the Tomahawks after the terrorist network of Osama bin Laden. The U.S. Navy launched about 80 of them–at $750,000 each, that’s some $60 million. What bang did Clinton get for his bucks? The missiles tore up some sheds and shacks at a training area in Afghanistan and demolished a pharmaceutical plant in Sudan

Philanthropussy
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Wow, your story is from 1998. Mine is from 2014. Can we stay current????? What was the rep and right wing media responds when Bill made his claim a couple months ago.

Andy Martin
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Another story about how Slick caused 911…………… Reed Irvine – Editor 2001 Report #18September 24, 2001 CATASTROPHIC INTELLIGENCE FAILURE THIS ISSUE:CATASTROPHIC INTELLIGENCE FAILURE BIN LADEN GATE By Cliff Kincaid The CIA Connection Friends in High Places Damage Control The Attack on the USS Cole The Bush Response What You Can DoNOTES FROM THE EDITOR’S CUFF In 1995, the CIA and the FBI learned that Osama bin Laden was planning to hijack U.S. airliners and use them as bombs to attack important targets in the U.S. This scheme was called Project Bojinka. It was discovered in the Philippines, where authorities arrested… Read more »
Andy Martin
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And? You said Slick didn’t bomb anything or anyone. Wrong!

Who cares what the media or the right said about Slick’s revelation? The story about Clinton bombing OBL and failing to take him into custody has been known for years.

Joe Gutierrez
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The enemy within.

David King
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This is what you can expect from the appeasement crowd. When taking the high road costs you your country, it’s time to change tactics. War should be horrible, so that we’ll rarely select it as a choice. The enemy must also know what you’re prepared to do to them.

Randy Miller
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hello

Randy Miller
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This is a new recruiting ploy. No violence in the workplace gauranteed? Sit back, push buttons and watch drones kill women, children, and a bad guy occassionally.
So if we catch one with info that could save lives, we just ask him to tea and see if he feels obligated to return the gesture? I wonder how many lives were saved in the past wars due to I Corps? So just turn our Military Intel personnel into baby sitters?

Barb3000
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You can’t change stupid, if a person could move through time and take a look at what is left of Europe in fifty years at the rate these Muslim women reproduce it will look a lot like the Middle East without the sand piles. The US might be the only country on the planet that hasn’t fallen to the Muslim Caliphate besides Israel. But with the type of sellouts we have in office in DC that may not be the case after all.

AnnaGraceS
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OMG words are failing me right now… Although I can say this I have lost all respect for the British!

Republic
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Ha. You’re not going to find the ROE effective in the military if the dream of ’16 is elected.

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hadenough57
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Guess the taliban had their feelings hurt, so they went to a school in Pakistan and murdered 131 children. We do not need to worry about the enemies destroying us! The progressive idiots all over the world are achieving the destruction of our countries for them! http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-30491435