Obama has no enumerated power to release GITMO prisoners, but here we go again!

Sure seems we’ve come to a point where the rule of law means little to the Obama administration — or the oath taken to faithfully execute our laws.

With that in mind, Article I, Section 8, Clause 11 of the United States Constitution, at times referred to as the War Powers Clause, vests in the Congress the power to declare war, in the following wording: “[The Congress shall have Power…] To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water.”

I searched Article II to see if there was anything to contradict these enumerated powers bestowed upon the U.S. Congress — and found nothing. Now, I can immediately draw your attention to President Obama’s ill-conceived venture into Libya — which we have addressed several times, most recently here discussing the involvement of ISIS there — and where was the “humanitarian crisis? I could also alert you to the fact that we are deploying troops back into Iraq, but there has been no declaration from Congress on war — and we are dropping bombs and folks are shooting — a basic definition of war, as far as I know.

But it is the last words that are the topic of this missive — and will continue to be: “make rules concerning captures on land and water” — that power is invested in the Congress. Currently, it appears everything this executive branch doesn’t care to abide by falls into the category of “prosecutorial discretion.” We shall see if the progressive socialists and media accomplices will agree with that when there’s a Republican in the White House…

And so while y’all were out Christmas shopping, we got yet another violation of the Constitution by President Obama. But here is the point: how can we have a focus on policies doing what is right per the rule of law, when one side refuses to respect and regard the rule of law? Case in point: rules concerning captures.

As Fox News reports, “The U.S. government said early Sunday that it had transferred six detainees held at Guantanamo Bay in Cuba for over 12 years to Uruguay for resettlement as refugees” And when did Islamic terrorists who fought against our men and women become “refugees?”

All six men had been detained as suspected militants with ties to al-Qaida, but had never been charged – and therein lies the problem. This is not a law enforcement issue, they are unlawful enemy combatants captured during a combat operation.

Fox says, “a Pentagon statement on Sunday identified the men as four Syrians, a Tunisian and a Palestinian. They are the first Guantanamo Bay prisoners to be sent to South America. They had been cleared for release since at least 2010 but they could not be sent home — if they were so safe, then why would their own Countries not want them back — and languished as the U.S. struggled to find countries willing to take them. Among those transferred is 43-year-old Syrian Abu Wa’el Dhiab, who was on a long-term hunger strike at Guantanamo to protest his confinement. He was at the center of a legal battle in U.S. courts over the military’s force-feeding of prisoners who refuse to eat.”

What a catch-22 for our military. If the prisoners are allowed to starve, they are guilty of human rights violations. But if the prisoners are forcibly fed, they are subject to lawsuits from lawyers who share Hillary Clinton’s perspective on empathy.

Let me reiterate a simple point. The president of the United States does not have the power to release these “captures” and they are not entitled to any constitutional rights or legal proceedings – as a matter of fact, the Geneva convention states that non-uniformed, non-state belligerents are only entitled to food and shelter — so why a legal battle for feeding this guy?

Slowly but surely, Barack Obama is unconstitutionally shutting down GITMO — while we are distracted. And let us all remember that the rate of recidivism for these released “detainees” — unlawful enemy combatants is the correct definition – is around 30 percent.

Also, those five senior Taliban leaders who were exchanged for U.S. Army SGT Bowe Bergdahl (a deserter about whose location we know nothing or the status of the completed investigation) shall be free to return to Afghanistan from Qatar in 2015 — just a few weeks away!

And Uruguay? If you know your history, it was to Uruguay that many former Nazis fled post World War II.

Fox says “the other Syrians sent to Uruguay on Saturday were identified by the Pentagon as Ali Husain Shaaban, 32; Ahmed Adnan Ajuri, 37; and Abdelahdi Faraj, 39. Also released were Palestinian prisoner Mohammed Abdullah Taha Mattan, 35, and 49-year-old Adel bin Muhammad El Ouerghi of Tunisia. “We are very grateful to Uruguay for this important humanitarian action, and to President Mujica for his strong leadership in providing a home for individuals who cannot return to their own countries,” U.S. State Department envoy Clifford Sloan said.”

Mr. Sloan why are these cheeky fellas not allowed to return to their own countries? Could it be that their own countries recognize them as Islamic terrorists and would take the proper action against them – similar to the woman in Abu Dhabi who stabbed to death 47-year-old American Ibolya Ryan and is facing the death penalty in UAE? I’m quite perplexed about a “policy” that calls for releasing the enemy (while the enemy is still fighting us) to countries not of their origin where they are reclassified as “refugees.” Is this good policy or just dangerous politics affecting our long-term national security? You be the judge.

Fox writes, “Obama pledged to close the prison upon taking office but was blocked by Congress, which banned sending prisoners to the U.S. for any reason, including trial, and placed restrictions on sending them abroad.”

Let’s be clear here, Barack Obama simply does not possess the constitutional authority or power to shut down GITMO. Therefore he wasn’t blocked by Congress, it was Congress acting within its prescribed constitutional power.

You see, the problem in America is that we are becoming oblivious to the rule of law and totally devoid of any understanding regarding what it states. As a result, we have a demagogue who can use the bully pulpit — supported by a complicit media — to advance ideas antithetical to our Constitutional Republic, i.e. a “fundamental transformation.”

Don’t forget the admissions of one Jonathan Gruber regarding the American people and why that enabled the passing of Obamacare done in complete violation of standard legislative process and procedure — after all “we have to pass the bill in order to find out what’s in it.” Then again, there may be some folks reading this post who have no idea who Jonathan Gruber is — or have ever read the U.S. Constitution for that matter.

On September 17, 1787 after the Constitutional Convention, a Mrs. Powell asked Benjamin Franklin what sort of government America now had. Franklin laid down a challenge, “a Republic if you can keep it.”

A Republic requires an informed electorate. So please wake up and realize that President Obama has no enumerated authority to continue to release unlawful enemy combatants detained at Guantanamo Bay. As a matter of fact, he has little power or authority to do much of what he has and continues to do.

117 COMMENTS

    • I’m going to stick it in the face of any idiot liberal I meet once the next major terrorist attack happens. No more arguments, just a punch to the face and total abuse of these worthless liberals. I’m done with them!

  1. Here’s what the Heritage Foundation has to say about the captures clause.
    “Under the Captures Clause, Congress has the power to make rules for the confiscation, disposition, and distribution of captured enemy property. Although nothing in the text of the clause precludes its application to captures of enemy persons, it has never been so applied by either courts or Congress. … The roots of the clause can be traced to Article IX of the Articles of Confederation, … Under this interpretation, the term captures, as understood by the Framers of the Constitution, includes only enemy property. The term could not include captured enemy soldiers, as persons can neither be “divided” nor “appropriated.” ”
    Here’s the link http://www.heritage.org/constitution/#!/articles/1/essays/51/captures-clause
    So it’s possible that John Yoo and the Heritage foundation are a bunch of commie socialists who are in bed with Obama or maaaaaybe it’s possible that Allen West is just as good at being a legal scholar as he is at staying in Congress.

    • To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offences against the Law of Nations;

      To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

      Guess what, it ain’t presidential authority.

      • Just read the Constitution and find where your jackass Obama has the authority to release terrorists, jackass.

      • Okay so the captures clause doesn’t apply to people as we’ve established because “captures” meant property not people in the 18th century when the framers wrote it. Therefore, it’s not one of Congress’s enumerated powers. So who does have the authority to deal with enemy prisoners? Well the only options left are the Courts, the Executive branch or the individual states. We can discard the states right away I think because it doesn’t make any sense. That leaves the Executive or the Courts. Since POWs aren’t charged with any crime it’s hard to see what the Courts could rule on and who would make that decision. QED the authority goes to the Executive or more precisely to the President in his role as head of state and commander in chief. Which makes sense because that’s the way it’s always been handled in the past. None of you retards ever thought twice about who had authority over enemy prisoners until it was Obama who had the authority.

      • Jackass.

        To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offences against the Law of Nations;

        F’in moron

      • Hey moron, Obama enforces laws. He signed the law that he’s breaking.

        BTW, you’re talking point is not valid, dope. Perhaps you missed this, it’s not the same, but still falls under Congress’ power, not the president’s. Dolt.

        Do you actually believe terrorists aren’t akin to pirates? What nation did Osama Bin Laden fight for? khalid sheikh mohammed?

        Is Al Queda a nation? Are you really that stupid?

        To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offences against the Law of Nations;

      • So now you’ve changed your argument three times in one day. First it was the captures clause then it was the Law of Nations and now it’s piracy, have I got that right? Just keep throwing stuff at the wall and see if something sticks I guess.

        You can certainly make an argument that terrorism is the new piracy but before you start acting like it’s the law of the land somebody would actually have to make that argument. You know, in court. Where questions of law are decided. That has not happened to date.

        So which law is it that Obama signed and is now breaking? The reason I ask is that the restrictions on moving Guantanamo inmates to foreign countries have been modified in 2009, 20011, 2012 and 2013 with restriction under the most recent defense appropriations bill “lifted or significantly relaxed” according to Reuters. So what does the law say and how is it being broken?

      • You need to go back and re-read what you wrote. First you responded to my comment about the captures clause by just quoting the complete clause again. Then you responded with the Law of Nations section in bold. Then you brought up piracy. You’re either too stupid to recognize your own shortcomings or too disingenuous to admit you’ve been changing your position constantly.

        So yeah Obama broke the law with the Bergdahl release, maybe. He’s not obliged to obey laws that are unconstitutional any more than you or I am. The White House’s position is that this requirement of the law was an unconstitutional infringement by Congress on the President’s role as commander in chief in the case of the prisoner exchange for one of our POWs. When he signed the bill he told them that was his position. If Congress doesn’t like it, they can take him to court. But the fact that they haven’t done that, tells me that they don’t think they would win. Your position is that Congress has an enumerated constitutional role to play in deciding the fate of prisoners but you’ve done a spectacularly pathetic job of proving that argument.

        And while we’re on the subject of reading comprehension; this post is not about Bergdahl. It was about the 4 detainees transferred to Uruguay. Congress was notified about that transfer back in July, well before the 30 day deadline imposed by the law. So you’ve got nothing.

      • “gjsmith_62 Paul Sheridan • 2 days ago

        To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offences against the Law of Nations;

        To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

        Guess what, it ain’t presidential authority.”

        I quoted two sentences moron. Granted, that’s more than your talking point BS can handle, but then again, truth never enters the picture with dopey leftists. That you can’t recognize that one sentence in essence deals with terrorists and pirates is just an admission of your shortcomings. You’re simply too damn stupid.

        How is signing a law that states the president must notify Congress sixty days prior to releasing terrorists Unconstitutional? Are you really that friggin’ stupid?

        “Uruguay for resettlement as refugees” Where does Obama get the authority to reclassify terrorists?

        Where is the link stating anything close to Obama’s belief the law is Unconstitional? Why must you lie?

      • So we’re just going to pretend that you didn’t put the Law of Nations in bold because you thought it meant something different than what it actually means?

        If you’re curious about why the notification requirement is unconstitutional (or might be unconstitutional, the courts will have the final say) then look it up dummy. It’s not my job to give you a refresher on something the whole country was talking about 6 months ago.

        The President gets the authority to release detainees once they’re cleared by a DoD review board and Congress is notified from the 2013 National Defense Authorization Act. Which you could have discovered for yourself if you just bothered to type it into google.

      • Are you retarded? What do you think the laws of nations mean? Perhaps you should acquaint yourself with the Geneva Conventions and the definition of “lawful combatant”. Did Obama give theses terrorists a trial?

        What’s it like being a Obama sycophant? Does being a “stupid American voter” have added benefits?

      • OMG how stupid can you be? I actually posted a link talking about what the Law of Nations meant to the framers. It’s got f***ing nothing to do with the Geneva Conventions or International Law which wouldn’t even be dreamt up for another 100 years! Here’s a hint: it’s the title of a book. Read about it or don’t, I honestly don’t care anymore. If you can’t be bothered to learn about something before having an opinion on it then arguing with you is a complete waste of time.

      • Hey moron, what do you suppose the Law of Nations means when coupled with the idea of piracy?

        Just how friggin’ stupid are you? Ever think, maybe, just maybe, that the “Law of Nations” ideas existed before the Constitution and were codified after it?

        But given your use of Heritage, perhaps you should actually use it for more than talking points, douchebag.

        “concern that the states might not adequately punish infractions of the law of nations (such as attacks on ambassadors) and, in failing to do so, might thereby implicate the international responsibility of the entire United States. This concern led the Continental Congress to pass a resolution in 1781 recommending that the states “provide expeditious, exemplary and adequate punishment…for the infractions of the immunities of ambassadors and other public ministers authorized and received as such by the United States in Congress assembled.””

        http://www.heritage.org/constitution#!/articles/1/essays/48/define-and-punish-clause

      • The NDAA (National Defense Authorization Act of 2012/2014) authorizing release of military prisoners and providing provisions. President Obama signed it into law – was not mentioned in this article? Was Obama suppose to get authorization after this Bill was approved? Republicans are now calling foul claiming the GOP broke their 2010 pledge to America when this Bill was voted on. http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/12/07/House-Passage-of-NDAA-Violates-GOP-Pledge-to-America

      • Obama expanded the Patriot act to include Americans, you dolt, not Bush.

        But, wasn’t Obama supposed to be better than the dreaded Bush?

      • Remember 9/11

        “who was part of or substantially supported al-Qaeda, the Taliban, or associated forces that are engaged in hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners”, and anyone who commits a “belligerent act” against the United States or its coalition allies in aid of such enemy forces, under the law of war, “without trial, until the end of the hostilities authorized by the [AUMF]”. The text authorizes trial by military tribunal, or “transfer to the custody or control of the person’s country of origin”, or transfer to “any other foreign country, or any other foreign entity” 112th Congress, 1st Session, H1540CR.HSE: National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012″ pp 265-266 http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-112hr1540enr/pdf/BILLS-112hr1540enr.pdf Wikipeda does have research and its resources, providing overall review: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Defense_Authorization_Act_for_Fiscal_Year_2012#cite_note-22

      • Same place that President Bush used to release over 500 Gitmo prisoners, without any notification to Congress, nor criticism from the likes of people like you.

      • Did you miss the word refugee? Did Bush classify terrorists as refugees?

        Are these words difficult to comprehend? Go back to eight grade, might help.

      • Thank you Paul for bringing up the NDAA Act, this of course was not mention in this article, why Col West decides to not mention this makes me wonder why bother rant about Obama ‘Doing it Again’. The NDAA Act provides provision for military prisoners. Obama signed NDAA Act into law 2012 and days prior to this article, the Republicans are calling foul, claiming the GOP broke their 2010 pledge to America when this Bill was voted on. http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/12/07/House-Passage-of-NDAA-Violates-GOP-Pledge-to-America These political players are playing psych ops with the American public, keeping them confused, rather then manning up and doing which is right, which is to work for America and her citizens, Feeding misinformation is not. American’s need to educate themselves, seriously.

      • As Commander in chief of the armed forces, the President has a significant amount of authority and “power”, one of which would be the disposition of prisoners taken in an armed conflict.

      • Obama is the head of the executive branch and executes laws passed by Congress.

        From whence does he get the authority to classify terrorists as refugees?

        Then again, Obama has kinship of some sort with terrorists, right? Ayers, Dohrn and Holder come to mind.

        What is with you leftists and your love of terrorists? Do you despise America so much?

  2. it is true, he does not have the power to do this, but, of course, he has the presumption to believe that he have the power to do whatever he wants…

    • Give me your legal evidence indicating that he does not have such power. Please give specifics, actual sections, articles, lines, etc. of whatever legal document, code, law you choose.

      • I don’t know what you mean, but i have nothing to given to you, i can given you my opinion, that’s all!!

    • he will laugh his ass off when al qaeda sets off a massacre in US schools or nukes a city. The worst part is that the media will keep the idiot masses on his side!

    • Nobody is forcing you to read his articles or participate on this thread. Why don’t you go to Huffington Post or one of the more liberal sites full of like minded liberal bobbleheads like yourself?

      • Oh I see -just those who love Allen can comment. I like to read these articles to see how he rallies his followers. He’s a fraud because he’s a narcissist …it’s all about attention.

      • Allen West is a narcissist? Ha! Baloney! The biggest narcissist in the world right now is Barack Insane Obama.

        Only in bhops1965’s alternative universe is Allen West telling the truth equated to hypocrisy and fraud.

      • How is Obama a narcissist??? Is he running a website saying incendiary things about other politicians or public figures – drawing them to the site to generate ad revenue so he can make $$$ off of the sheep that follow him?? I don’t think so.

      • I guess you are one of those stupid voters Gruber was bragging about. The White House Press Corp is complaining about Obama not allowing access to them, the least transparent presidency in history. Instead he is using his WEBSITE and his personal photographer to get his message out rather than relying on the media.

        Yes, Obama uses his WEBSITE to say incenidary things about other politicians and public figures. Yes, Obama has used his WEBSITE to encourage contributions to his campaign and to groups he endorses. Isn’t that using his WEBSITE as a tool to “make $$$ off the sheep that follow him.” Yes, that’s exactly what he’s doing and it’s pure hypocrisy not to admit it.

      • “Stupid”? Just because I seek rational, justification and explicit evidence, facts, rules of law and case law to support the conclusions of some commenting here???

        “Least transparent”? I don’t know, GWB is probably the front-runner in that category (e.g., the approved torture we’ve only begun to find out about).

        “His website”?? You mean, the government website…. “.gov”?? Yeah – well, it is the administration’s website …and it will be the next president’s website too. Please post a link to the alleged “encouraging” that Obama does on the whitehouse website for contributions and groups he endorses. I’ll help you out – there are none! Next time, why don’t you actually visit the site before making such a ridiculous statement.

        If Obama has said incendiary things about other politicians and public figures on “his” website – PROVE IT. Post a link. See, most here are big on rhetoric with no backing.

      • Oh, jeeze! Here we go with another Troll-like liberalist-Marxist who doesn’t know what Allen West did for his country! Did you ever put on a uniform, Bhops? Have you ever read the Constitution? Did you read “Obamacare” (oops! Sorrrrryyyy! The “UN-Affordable” Care Act?!!!) Probably not! I’ve read, AND STUDIED the Constitution….and I read a lot of the Obamacare – even have it on my computer files! Do you know what’s in it?!! Have you EVER read what this President is doing lately?!! NO! Because what YOU read, your liberalist O-Paid-mean Medias WILL NOT (nor CANNOT) publish the FACTS that Allen West just wrote! I suppose you think that by granting “Amnesty” to some 5 million UN-documented (no, let’s call a Spade a Spade) ILLEGAL ALIENS is Constitutional?!! Do you really think a President can use “prosecutorial discretion” in the way YOUR Prezzy Oblahblah has? When has ANY President “apologized” for this country?!! Oh, I suppose you didn’t know about Obama’s “Apology Tour” in his first year when he traveled overseas to the “Far East” apologizing for the way America has been! Oh, so that’s ok with you! So, when has ANY President ever said, that the “police acted stupidly”??!!! When has ANY President EVER let himself get into the middle of some civil law dispute and allow RIOTS to continue?! WHEN?! WHEN? and WHO?!!! Where do you people come from who just cannot back up your fallacies only because someone says something against who you STUPIDLY voted for?! You create the vision of being hostile and race bait on the basis of skin color just because we are against the one you voted for STUPIDLY is of another color! My, my, how UNEDUCATED you people have become!

      • Hmm…liberalist-Marxist, liberal maybe, but not a Marxist. I like capitalism. Though I could call you a conservative-Fascist, I won’t name call (except to call Allen West a narcissistic fraud).

        As for “putting on a uniform”, I’ll assume you mean that you’re inquiring whether I’ve been in the armed services. No – I haven’t, but neither have you. Just because one is/was not a member of the armed services, does not mean they do not have the right to criticize public figures like West.

        As for the Affordable Care Act, no, I have read some, but not the entire 974 pages of legalese, and you admit you have not read all of it either. But given you’ve read “a lot” of the Affordable Care Act, please give me the page numbers and/or sections, sub-sections that you particularly have issue with. For you convenience, here is a link to download a pdf of the Act (http://housedocs.house.gov/energycommerce/ppacacon.pdf)

        So you say you’ve read AND STUDIED the Constitution. That’s great, so have I (two courses of CON LAW while in law school). But have you actually read the SCOTUS
        decisions that interpret the Constitution? If so, enlighten me on the specific sections of the Constitution and one or more of the SCOTUS decisions that Obama has gone against (i.e., “broken the law”). Since you’ve “STUDIED” the Constitution, this should be easy for you.

        Yes, I’m up on what Obama has been doing lately, and in my opinion, it’s nothing more or less than any of the past democrat or republican presidents have done.

        As for amnesty for the illegal aliens – Obama is only taking
        a page from the GWB playbook – and decided not to break up families. No doubt, illegal aliens who are criminals should be prosecuted, but those who follow the law and
        contribute to society and who have American born children, should be given the chance. Remember –Congress has not and cannot fund the deportation of 10+
        million people, so choices have to be made. Funny – West and the right don’t say anything about the funding issue. Presidential discretion over immigration has a deep history (see Arizona v. US (2012)…link: http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/11pdf/11-182.pdf)

        As Law Professor Eric Posner of the University of Chicago
        stated in the NY Times, “The only difference between the president and his predecessors is that the president has openly declared the de facto policy of his predecessors. We might disagree about whether this move is wise, but it’s not a constitutional violation.” See http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2014/11/18/constitutional-limits-of-presidential-action-on-immigration-12/the-constitutional-authority-for-executive-orders-on-immigration-is-clear

        As for apologies from a president, I’m aware of the right’s so-called, “apology tour” of Obama which is factually totally inaccurate. See http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/oct/17/mitt-romney/mitt-romney-says-barack-obama-began/ Oh, I suppose you weren’t aware of those facts? I guess Fox News didn’t air them.

        So, Obama calls the police who arrested acting stupidly – so what. He has a right just like any other individual to statue his opinions. Whether it was right or wrong – that is up to the individual to opine on.

        As for Obama getting into the middle of a civil law dispute
        and allowing riots to occur, I assume you’re speaking of the Ferguson related riots. Two issues here – (1) didn’t GWB get knee-deep involved in the Terri Schiavo case???? A private matter for a family of an essentially brain dead women. And (2), funny – with respect to
        controlling riots – isn’t that for the state to do?? I thought conservatives were all about “states rights” – i.e., the states control their territories and have the means to control riots (they have their own national guard,
        remember??).

        As for you implying that I’m playing the race care here – I
        have not mentioned race at all….you’re the one who brought that up, not me. Remember, I called him a “narcissist” not a racist. My main point is that West, similar to Glenn Beck, Anne Coulter, state the most insane things sometimes to get their base all up in arms, so that they’ll go to their websites to provide more ad revenue and buy
        their books. It’s all about $$, not being right or caring about the country. Thus – he is a narcissist and a fraud.

        Why don’t you actually point out specifics with links to
        facts. Then a debate can be had.

      • Fascism is a tool of the left, what precisely do you believe ObamaRxCare is except fascism?

        Ditto Solyndra and the rest. The lines of socialism and fascism are hardly straight and true. Both seek a despotism of a strong central gov’t.

      • Actually – Fascism is more right then left, on the spectrum:

        Fascism (/fæʃɪzəm/) is a form of radical authoritarian nationalism[1][2] that came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe. Influenced by national syndicalism, fascism originated in Italy during World War I, combining more typically right-wing positions with elements of left-wing politics,[3] in opposition to liberalism, Marxism, and traditional conservatism. Although fascism is often placed on the far-right within the traditionalleft–right spectrum, several academics have said that the description is inadequate.[4][5]

      • The Nazis were socialists. Fascism, socialism and communism are all progeny of Marx. The left and right spectrum you’re using was relevant to 18th century France, not today’s politics. A better use of left/right would be totalitarian vs anarchy.

        Now, today’s left is constantly aggrandizing the power of the state, aka totalitarian. The founders of this nation purposely limited the power of the Federal gov’t so as to avoid an all encompassing leviathan.

        Obama has used fascism ( ObamaRxCare ) to regulate every aspect of healthcare and doing so, gives the state more power.

        You want to blame Bush for bailing out GM, Chrysler and Wall St.? Get in line. But it’s funny the left attributes “saving GM” to Obama, why?

        “As an economic system, fascism is socialism with a capitalist veneer. The word derives from fasces, the Roman symbol of collectivism and power: a tied bundle of rods with a protruding ax. In its day (the 1920s and 1930s), fascism was seen as the happy medium between boom-and-bust-prone liberal capitalism, with its alleged class conflict, wasteful competition, and profit-oriented egoism, and revolutionary Marxism, with its violent and socially divisive persecution of the bourgeoisie. Fascism substituted the particularity of nationalism and racialism—“blood and soil”—for the internationalism of both classical liberalism and Marxism.”

        http://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/Fascism.html

      • Yes – the Nazis were socialists, but you have to admit – Nazism has right-wing characteristics as well (the thousand year Reich…German blood lines, conservative values). Obama care (ACA) is not fascist – it is socialist at most, and sorry, I think having a healthcare plan for all should be something the country stands for.

        Don’t lump me in with others who blame Bush for bailing out GM – it needed to be done, same as all the other bailouts – otherwise, we would indeed have had a greater depression than the 30s.

        As for the left aggrandizing the power (as you put it) of the state …. please provide me details on such “aggrandizing”. I don’t see any of the parties doing this. As for the founding fathers – remember – the most powerful branch of the US govt is the SCOTUS, not the executive or the legislative …it just moves a lot slower due to obvious procedural issues. Obama is out in 2 years, and along will come another politically connected individual, right or left, who half will consider good and half will consider bad…same as always.

      • “German blood lines, conservative values”

        Pray tell, how is that conservative? You do realize the KKK was a democrat institution, right? That the fascist FDR appointed the racist KKK member Black to the court, right? Why? You should look into why he hated Catholics ( I am not … but ).

        1947, Justice Hugo Black wrote the majority opinion in Everson v. Board of Education attempting to end any public funds to Catholic schools. Why?

        ObamaRxCare is fascist, it controls industry by regulation.

        As for the bailout … let me see if I’ve got this right, so you are in favor of some fascism, so long as it’s used for some industries? Like Wall St and autos?

        As for a “greater” depression, the entire reason this “recession” was longer is because, just like in the ’30’s gov’t tried to “help” and in the process, destroy any incentive for an industry to re-tool itself.

        “aggrandizing”

        I gave you ObamaRxCare … need more?

        While Bush pushed the Patriot Act and was perhaps, “wrong” ( I have no problem spying on foreigners ), Obama not only continued it, but expanded it to include all Americans. Why?

        Bush was an IDIOT to start the DHS and NCLB, each grants more power to the Feds.

        And Bush’s stupidity has been doubled down by Obama.

      • How is that conservative??? The right is pretty much controlled by Christian conservatives – with the “our way or the highway” mentality. If you’re denying that Nazism has any relation to right-wing mentality, then you don’t understand Nazism.

        As for the KKK, are you really going to compare southern democrats from the end of the civil war up until the civil rights era to today’s democrats???? Really?? Since I’m an atheist I hate to make this comparison, but that is like comparing the god of the new testament to the god of the old testament…apples to oranges.

        So, a government healthcare alternative (which, is present in nearly every modern western country) is fascism. Wow…you are deluded.

        As for the bailout – if you can’t wrap your head around the implications of the implosion of wall street without a bailout and what it would have resulted in – you’re a bit insane. Hey, I hate wall street and big business – but at that time (and I emphasize THAT TIME), if you didn’t do that – the crisis would have been several orders of magnitude greater.

        And how “pray tell” did OBama expand it to your disliking. As for tracking of all cell phone records of every American – did you really think that wasn’t happening????? Your delusion is deeper than I thought.

        Just think what Romney or Palin would have done with Bush policies…talk about doubling down.

      • “Christian conservatives”

        Hmm, weren’t the same in the USA the isolationists? Germany was more socialist than Christian.

        Right wing? Now you’re using circular logic. Nazis were socialists, get it?

        ” to today’s democrats”

        You mean the party that is still all in for institutionalized racism? Really? And FYI, the last democrat would was in the KKK died a democrat in 2010, Robert Byrd.

        So, a government healthcare alternative (which, is present in nearly every modern western country) is fascism. Wow…you are deluded.

        Ah, ad hominem, lovely. No argument, just a statement of BS. Gov’t control of heathcare and pensions are either socialist or fascist. Socialist Security is a ponzi scheme and ObamaRxCare is fascism. Do you not get the point of gov’t control?

        “you’re a bit insane”

        Ah, more ad hominem, have you run out of arguments? Figures, you’re a lefty.

        “Hey, I hate wall street and big business” … Except when you chose to use the gov’t to bail them out. Excellent principles.

        “the crisis would have been several orders of magnitude greater.”

        Pure speculation.

      • Ok Dr. Sociology – let me ask you a question, and I’ll focus on the bailout because that interests me more than the other issues right now, what, in your mind, should have been done?

      • Uh, Hello, why did the Federal gov’t bailout GM and Chrysler? Did you miss that tidbit of information? Where in the bankruptcy code is there a section dealing with “bailouts”?

      • Purchase a dictionary (and read just a little history) The only thing socialist about the Nazi’s was their name. Socialism is NOT Nazism nor is Nazism in any way, shape, or form Socialism.

      • Give it a rest, fascism, socialism and communism are all progeny of Marx. The goal of each is total state control.

      • What, you don’t earn enough to purchase a dictionary?
        fascism
        [ ˈfaSHˌizəm ]
        noun
        noun: fascism · noun: Fascism · plural noun: Fascisms
        an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.
        synonyms: authoritarianism · totalitarianism · dictatorship · despotism · autocracy · Nazism · rightism · nationalism · xenophobia · racism · anti-Semitism · jingoism · isolationism · neofascism · neo-Nazism
        More
        (in general use) extreme right-wing, authoritarian, or intolerant views or practice.
        communism
        [ ˈkämyəˌnizəm ]
        noun
        noun: communism · noun: Communism · plural noun: Communisms
        a political theory derived from Karl Marx, advocating class war and leading to a society in which all property is publicly owned and each person works and is paid according to their abilities and needs. See also Marxism.
        Powered by OxfordDictionaries · © Oxford University Press
        Definition of NAZISM
        : the body of political and economic doctrines held and put into effect by the Nazis in Germany from 1933 to 1945 including the totalitarian principle of government, predominance of especially Germanic groups assumed to be racially superior, and supremacy of the führer

      • You’re the same type of dolts who will redefine words like marriage to suit a purpose. But just for morons like you …

        “As an economic system, fascism is socialism with a capitalist veneer. The word derives from fasces, the Roman symbol of collectivism and power: a tied bundle of rods with a protruding ax. In its day (the 1920s and 1930s), fascism was seen as the happy medium between boom-and-bust-prone liberal capitalism, with its alleged class conflict, wasteful competition, and profit-oriented egoism, and revolutionary Marxism, with its violent and socially divisive persecution of the bourgeoisie. Fascism substituted the particularity of nationalism and racialism—“blood and soil”—for the internationalism of both classical liberalism and Marxism.”

        http://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/Fascism.html

      • Ahh…mr. Moron himself – marriage reserved only between men and women. I suppose you believe that homosexuality is a mental disorder.

      • LOL, guess you believe two men can have babies, right?

        Etymology of marriage/matrimony, to become a mother.

        Idiot.

      • Ahh…so that’s the whole point of marriage – just have babies. Hmm…did you know, you don’t have to be married to have babies. Let me ask you, at what age did you decide to be straight?

        Neocon moron.

      • “did you know, you don’t have to be married to have babies”

        Idiot, that’s a straw man. Who said marriage was a requirement?

        Neocon? That’s the best you’ve got? Meanwhile you morons would rather drone a terrorist — oops refugee, than waterboard him.

      • Oh you sooo skilled Mr. Debator…I bow in your presence…..Straw man argument – yes BFD – so what. The fact remains that for some idiotic reason, you fail to grasp that legal meanings can and often vary from dictionary definitions. You’re on the wrong side of history; go back to 1950.

      • That’s so funny. bhops1965, like most liberal Democrats think “Palin” ran against Obama when the actual candidate was McCain. It’s 6 years later and Democrats are still complaining about a vice presidential nominee and ignoring the presidential primary winner and candidate. Of course they don’t complain about McCain since he’s a liberal RINO who has supported Democrat policy so much that the Arizona Republican Party censured him this past year.

      • Ha! Like crazy Uncle Joe (foot in his mouth) Biden??? That old meme that John McCain is old and Palin would’ve been president has proven to be nonsense because John McCain is still alive and unlikely to be dead for many years.

        It seems that after 6 years of Biden, you liberal nuts would recognize that a Vice President really has no influence or power. Again, McCain was the candidate, not Palin.

      • You need to read some history. The KKK was ex-Confederates, upset with the outcome of the Civil War. They were made up of Southern Democrats (see Dixi-crats), who were the White, Christian, Conservatives of the time. After the transition of the two political parties in the 1960’s and 1970’s the “Southern Democrats” (see Dixi-crats again) became the current Republican Party and the Lincoln Republicans of Civil War time became the current Democratic Party.
        This is all available on the internet (if you were capable of learning how to use it). It is also taught to Jr. High students when studying the Civil War and the period known as Reconstruction. Next time pay attention in school.

      • The KKK were democrats.

        Dixie CRAT not DixieCan.

        Every democrat who voted against CRA died a democrat and more than half were replaced by democrats.

        Robert Byrd is the only 21 century klan member and died a democrat.

        Facts, try using them instead of lying.

  3. The real irony is, as Barry releases these terrorists from Gitmo, HE IS ORDERING THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT TO GO AFTER AMERICAN POLICE DEPARTMENTS!

  4. 4 young children were beheaded in Iraq today. These released terrorists are now going to assist with more of that. None of this would be happening if not for Obama. I will NEVER forgive anyone who voted for this sack of dung. They are beyond my capacity to forgive.

  5. Absolutely correct, Allen West! You’re superb knowledge in our Constitution and upholding it as you’ve done, even when you were commanding troops, prove you to be the most respected, and honored Patriot, and include you as a “Statesman”, too – of our time! Thank you, sir, for the sacrifices you’ve done for serving, and I’m also honored to be among those of your high caliber status, as I, too, put in my 25 years, and now getting my military pension for it, and I too, who also took the same oath you did, as did our Congress & this President, that I respect the law, and our Constitution, and I, too, am a Protector of our Constitution, for without it, we are a lost country heading into a egregious territory of unimaginable non-freedom, un-liberties that could very well mirror WWII communist countries we’ve already fought against. It’s the fault of the lowes-information voters who refuse to read anything of historical value – and the fault of the left-liberalist Marxist who have cultivated into our schools their indoctrination of “Common Core” — the most extreme left-liberal-Marxist way of teaching our kids – nearly mirrors 1943 German ruled by a venomous Dictator – Hitler! That is where we need to get to the crux of the problem! Get Congress to DEFUND the Education Department! It all starts with educating our kids, and the way they are going at it (and I’ve seen the subject line-ups!) they’ll have these kids ratting on all of us! Then get a true Patriot — as in a “Statesman” – like YOU – to put in his bid for President for 2016! We’re still looking for the best Peson to REPRESENT us – which is all that is since WE The PEOPLE elect the President! The Republican Party has YET to get us a GREAT Person – since Reagan at least – a real American – a Born American – but a Statesman (look up the term!) who knows the Constitution (like Allen West does), who reveres it like the Bible (like Allen West does), who respects the LAW (Like Allen West does)! That’s what this country needs, that’s what The People are looking for! Where ARE the Statesmen?!!!!

  6. obama can easily be thought of as an enemy combatant. Several of our soldiers are still locked up behind the walls of Fort Leavenworth. obama should take their place.

    • Obama thinks killing them with drones is more humane that capturing them alive and sending them to Gitmo? Maybe that’s an example of the “empathy” that Hillary said we need to show to our enemies?

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  8. The NDAA (National Defense Authorization Act of 2012/2014) authorizing release of military prisoners and providing provisions. President Obama signed it into law – was not mentioned in this article? Was Obama suppose to get authorization after this Bill was approved? Republicans are now calling foul claiming the GOP broke their 2010 pledge to America when this Bill was voted on. http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/12/07/House-Passage-of-NDAA-Violates-GOP-Pledge-to-America

  9. Earl Lee Andy Martin • 2 days ago
    “One is a fact and the other is opinion..Allen was deemed unfit to lead so he was relieved of command”

    bhops1965 C-Ann-C • 2 days ago …..”Just because one is/was not a member of the armed services, does not mean they do not have the right to criticize public figures like West.” In reference to Mr. Lee: simply because one is forced out of the military because he choose to lead as a courageous leader of his men; does not make him unfit in the eyes of those he led. As for Mr. bops’ above comment, experience does help to qualify the speaker if he knows what he is talking about. To criticize one for his conduct on the battle-field, where his actions were motivated by a rightful concern for his men, it would take someone who is able to appreciate the situation in it’s context, to be a judge of the matter. Mr. West need not shy away from such uninformed, reactionary false statements as the above two blow-hards. Scoat

  10. Heres a thought, next time forget capture. Just kill them where they are and save everybody a lot of trouble! And Hillary is a joke, as she couldnt handle her Secretary of State job, remember? Was she pampering the enemy then? And let our people get killed!

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