If we’re going to use the military to fight Ebola, here’s how to do it

I guess it’s time for me to weigh in on the Ebola issue in America. I’m not an infectious disease expert, but I know a little bit about leadership.

First of all, if Obama was taking his daily intelligence briefings he should have been inquiring about “hot spots.” As Obama saw a growing problem in West Africa with Ebola, he should have been looking at contingencies and calling in a “crisis action tiger team” to proactively examine courses of action. Instead we have a president who once again makes a dumb statement about the impossible chances of Ebola coming to America — and now must eat those words.

Yesterday it was revealed that another Dallas nurse, Amber Vinson, has tested positive for Ebola. She is in our prayers as well as the first nurse identified as testing positive for Ebola — both were treating Thomas Eric Duncan, the Liberian man who lost his life to Ebola.

But the possible exposure is growing rapidly. Some 77 other health care workers who had contact with Mr. Duncan are now under watch. And of even greater concern is that Ms. Vinson apparently boarded a commercial airline flight after she had contracted Ebola. Therefore we now have an even wider net of potential cases to monitor.

CDC Director Dr. Thomas Frieden seems to be heading up the Center for Deception and Confusion. He’s made statements showing more concern for the “economic viability” of West African countries rather than issuing any type of travel ban — which would have precluded Mr. Duncan from entering America, period.

I fail to understand his illogical assertion that cordoning off an infected area will only result in Ebola spreading faster. And for Frieden to say (to Fox News’ Megyn Kelly) that there is a difference between charter and commercial aircraft was perplexing — disturbing at worst.

I don’t believe we have an Ebola epidemic in America – at least not yet. However, I do believe there is a crisis of confidence and a loss of trust from the American people in the Obama administration. What I don’t want to see is panic created in our airline travel system as we draw closer to the Thanksgiving and Christmas season — which you all well know is brewing after Ms. Vinson’s trip on Frontier Airlines from Cleveland to Dallas.

We need Ebola centers of excellence, regional healthcare facilities priority-prepared to contend with Ebola cases. In addition, we need a full court press for vaccine development and that means turning the challenge over to the private sector to solve the issue – not the NIH, as we know how they waste our money.

I also believe we should get our U.S. military involved, but not by sending our troops into West Africa — and what happens if our troops are banned from flying back from West Africa because they have to stop in Europe for refueling?

USNORTHCOM has the command and control apparatus to contend with this incident. I’d recommend we look at some of the BRACd (Base Realignment and Closure) military installations that could be used — in remote areas — as places where we could separate infected individuals in order to secure the greater American population.

None of this was discussed at the staged cabinet meeting on Wednesday where Obama talked about CDC SWAT teams. Leadership is about being proactive, seeing the issue before it becomes a crisis and having solutions already in place. Obama and his cronies have failed. The pool of potential Americans who have to be monitored for Ebola is expanding exponentially — and all of this could have been avoided if the guy with a pen and a phone had written an executive order banning persons inbound from the affected countries.

The responsibility of the president of the United States of America is to protect the American people — not political correctness.

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RMiller
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Finally, a voice of reason in the chaos that is the Obama administration!

James Boehlje
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Yes the use of closed Military Bases is a correct action. When Tuberculosis was a issue, and no cure was available Fort Stanton ( MN) was a tuberculosis sanitarium and others became VA Hospitals ( Fort Whipple , AZ) It is time to do it again.

Randy Miller
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They want healthy people to walk voluntarily into concentration camps. That’s been the plan all along. They realized that a population armed as well as the military had to be dealt with.

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Misty
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Gee whiz, you just described the alterior motive for Rex 84. Throw FEMA in there and you just legitimized half of us tinfoil hat wearers. This administration isn’t talking about doing this because they don’t want to show their hand yet, not enough panic. When people are desperately crying in the street for vaccination and quarentines, all orchestrated by our military, then Washington will start unveiling what it has had prepared for us all along.

Earl Lee
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You have to be a SPECIAL KIND OF STUPID to listen to anything about the military from a man who was RELIEVED OF COMMAND…meaning he is NOT FIT TO LEAD!!

Andy Martin
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Hey jag-00f. YOU claimed to have served. Instead of barking like the beotch that you are all the time, offer something constructive for a change.

B52 EWO 72-76
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I served, too, Andy. You? If not, you have no possible way of knowing how West disgraced the uniform. So zip it!

Andy Martin
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Zip it for me punk. Put up the DD214 or pizz off Fido.

Avenida de Maceo
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I took the day off from the computer yesterday, Andy. Read, “Walking Dead: Fall of the Governor.” You are gonna grind year gears, Andy. Cuz it hit me. I have no reason to prove ANYTHING to you. Even more, Andy, I have absolutely NO desire to prove ANYTHING to you. I know my service record, as do my family, friends and colleagues. You? Makes me no never mind. Ya see, Andy, you are not going to bully me into anything. See, after 30+ years as a therapist, I can only be led to conclude you are nothing but a little… Read more »
Andy Martin
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It took you 16 lines of whimpering to say you’re going to cop-out. I like my reading a little deeper kid. If you do not want to prove what you claim to have done, fine. You decided to interject yourself into the conversation originally. You asked me what proof I would accept. I told you. Stop crying about it. Put the ‘bully card’ away child. It was a simple Q&A. Nothing more than a binary proposition. I asked, you answered. And please don’t make yourself any look more foolish with your new ‘therapist’ persona. If I am a bully then… Read more »
Avenida de Maceo
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😉

Avenida de Maceo
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You really expect me to fall for that? You wouldn’t believe it anyway, would you?

Andy Martin
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Fall for what? Actually proving you served? Prove it or not. Your call.

Avenida de Maceo
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You won’t accept it as proof, Andy. We both know that. So I am not going to waste my time scanning, converting, redacting and figuring out where to post it? Besides, Answer the original damn question.

Andy Martin
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Still waiting for that proof sock puppet.

Avenida de Maceo
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Haven’t answered my question, Andy. Why should I believe you will accept ANYTHING as proof? For that matter, why should I trust you at all? Seeing as how you NEVER answer direct questions.

Andy Martin
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I don’t care what you believe. Post proof or not. Your call fraud.

Avenida de Maceo
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Not until you commit to ALL of us what YOU will accept as proof. Andy, like it or not. It is MY call. Show YOUR cards to us. Or are YOU the fraud? I have nothing to prove. I know I served. YOU are the one asking for proof. What will YOU accept? Or don’t you have the sand to answer a simple question?

Andy Martin
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For the fifth time, a DD214 is proof. Put it up you fraud. I never claimed to have served.

Avenida de Maceo
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Why is this so important to you?

Andy Martin
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You asked what kind of proof I wanted. Do you have Alzheimers?

Avenida de Maceo
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Nope.

Andy Martin
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Let it go fraud.

Avenida de Maceo
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See, Andy? You just proved my point. You refuse or are unwilling to answer direct questions. Hell, you are not worth the effort. Demean EVERYONE, but commit to NOTHING!

ALL I am asking you to do is to commit to what you will accept as proof? Is that so difficult to answer?

Andy Martin
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Hey sock. DD214, nothing else.

Avenida de Maceo
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Because?

Andy Martin
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Have you forgotten the convo kid?

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icwydt
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Most of us know the circumstances of the incident you mention and I would be glad to have him looking out for my survival. Grow up.

B52 EWO 72-76
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Not me. Allen violated his SWORN duty to uphold the ROE. He didn’t. He violated his oath. I wouldn’t follow him to the PX!

Vinita Thonen
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He was relieved of command, as were others,, on bogus charges, because Obama knew they were loyal the country and would not obey orders against the oath they took, and would protect their men.

Earl Lee
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Most DON”T know the actual events! Sorry…but if you are RELIEVED OF COMMAND it means that you are NOT FIT to lead….sorry but NO REPUBLICAN NOMINATION….let him keep selling his ROB THESE LOON BLIND tee shirts

Andy Martin
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Tell the class about Kerry’s stellar service. The POS was a traitor who tried to put himself in for medals he didn’t deserve. Then the sluggard comes back and attacks his own military before Congress. Now the SOB runs around the globe bad mouthing our nation with Hussein’s blessing. You and he probably cop each others knob. He and his Muslim boss should be tried for treason and then be given the max punishment.

B52 EWO 72-76
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Andy, again you advertise your ignorance. One does not put oneself in for awards. One’s CO does that. Sure one of his CO’s reneged, what, 20+ years later? “Shipmates” made money off of counter Kerry books and interviews. I’m sure none of that influenced their “change of heart,” right? And check out the success of that “Swift boat” group.

Andy Martin
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Here ya go stupid…………… ARE KERRY’S WAR MEDALS LEGITIMATE? Veterans are a significant voting block in this country. Contrary to popular opinion, they are not all Republicans, and here lies the danger for the Kerry campaign. Even a doubt about the candidate’s incredible accumulation of three Purple Hearts for what appears to be extremely minor “flesh wounds” in only 120 days, and the fact that none of these alleged combat injuries required any hospitalization, much less scarring or surgery, and you begin to see why hundreds of Kerry’s former Navy swift boat colleagues are furious at him. The Silver Star… Read more »
Avenida de Maceo
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Mind letting us know what you are using for a source? I’m sure inquiring minds would like to know.

As for the medal you reference? Yeah, Kerry was the only officer present. Therefore, he has the responsibility of writing an After Action Report. THEN, his CO makes a decision about whether or not to recommend a citation.

Andy Martin
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Pick a source lefty.

https://www.google.com/search?espv=2&biw=931&bih=577&q=john+kerry+put+himself+in+for+medals&spell=1&sa=X&ei=du5DVKDNFoiAygSmxIG4BQ&ved=0CBoQvwUoAA

[[ Kerry was the only officer present. Therefore, he has the responsibility of writing an After Action Report. THEN, his CO makes a decision about whether or not to recommend a citation. ]]

http://www.militarycorruption.com/kerry4.htm

Avenida de Maceo
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Never heard of them. Know nothing about them. No independent way to check them out. Sorry, Andy. Therefore, why should I trust them? Because YOU vouch for them?

Andy Martin
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Being that your the forum dope, I’m not surprised you haven’t heard about many things in life. Stay stupid and keep blowing liberals.

Avenida de Maceo
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Sorry to disappoint you, Andy. I will keep fact checking.

Andy Martin
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Sure you will lefty.

Avenida de Maceo
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I’ll keep you posted, Andy.

Andy Martin
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Doubtful sock.

Avenida de Maceo
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I already am…

Andy Martin
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With what?

Avenida de Maceo
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My fact checking on military.com. My first concern, is that the editor is only a Lieutenant.

Andy Martin
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Screw your CONcern. Disprove what I posted.

Avenida de Maceo
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Why? I’ll think about it. After all, we don’t know each other from Adam’s cat. Why is this so important to you?

Andy Martin
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Why was it important for you to stick your nose into the convo? Why is it important for you to keep responding?

Avenida de Maceo
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Me? YOU started it with your demands.

Andy Martin
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I was posting to Earl and you popped in. You needy too like my other stalkers?

Avenida de Maceo
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🙂

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Earl Lee
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Did that tell you that he let his men beat that man for over 49 mins?? Uber idiot

Brigadier
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So, you are a terrorist sympathizer. I knew it. Traitor.

Earl Lee
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WOW…how stupid…everyone that lives in iraq are not TERRORIST you IDIOT! The man was FREED and probably got millions due to that disgrace allen west’s actions!

Earl Lee
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Ok…now you need to show me what site PAYS you for just having people on the site OR does those people that go to the site have to CLICK on a AD?? C’mon Skippy…this one isn’t hard!

icwydt
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Let’s get this right, you are not fit to follow him.

B52 EWO 72-76
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Guess that makes two of us, icwydt. I would never had allowed the beating to commenced in the first place. That IS NOT how American soldiers treat prisoners. Were my orders disobeyed, I was a Capt., I would have put them under arrest. Any military experience of your own, wise guy?

icwydt
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I volunteered in 1965 and was classified 1Y; my best friend is a Marine Viet Nam combat Vet and we both support Allen West. What is your point? Allen West made a judgement call and he was correct. Maybe this will help you:

“Rules are for the obedience of fools and for the guidance of wise men.” Douglas Bader

Avenida de Maceo
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1Y, eh? Don’t mean to be disrespectful, but a lot of guys took speed to increase their blood pressure before their draft physical. What was your disability? You opened the door.

icwydt
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I was born with an irregular heartbeat diagnosed as a hole in the heart but now recognized as “Premature Ventricular Contractions”, fairly common. If Viet Nam had been a declared war 1Ys could have gotten in.

Avenida de Maceo
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Sorry to hear that. Sincerely. My wife was just diagnosed with atrial valve stenosis and a blood clot in her leg. Look up “Linebacker II.” I lost half my crew, and Allen oversaw the beating of an unarmed civilian, who knew nothing, that went on for nearly an hour. Then Allen emptied his weapon next to the prisoner’s head. His disregard for the rules, reminds me of this pilot. Check YouTube:
Mishap of B-52 at Fairchild Air Force Base Washington

Avenida de Maceo
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“”Rules are for the obedience of fools and for the guidance of wise men.” Douglas Bader”

Really? Then I guess we should throw out the UCMJ following your logic. Your Marine friend who supports Allen? We all make mistakes.

icwydt
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No, you need rules, but rules are ways of thinking, not ways to avoid thinking. Maybe this guy is more clear:

“Principles and rules are intended to provide a thinking man a frame of reference.” Carl von Clausewitz

Avenida de Maceo
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As long as you are throwing quotes at me, I just remembered. Here’s one for you: “When fighting the monster, you risk becoming the monster; and when you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes into you.” Nietzsche

Avenida de Maceo
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Clausewitz, eh? Best make sure you are not misinterpreting him:

Liddell Hart, B. H. Strategy London:Faber, 1967. Second rev. ed.

Bassford, Christopher (2002). “Clausewitz and his Works” at clausewitz.com. Retrieved 2007-06-30.

Check them out on Wiki. The references above, NOT the Wiki text.

So, you are stating that Clausewitz is advocating the abuse of an unarmed prisoner?

Brigadier
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Amen to that!!!

Earl Lee
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I’m to smart to follow a DISGRACE like allen (rob these loons blind) west.

Andy Martin
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Sure you are. BTW, you misspelled ‘to’…………..dummy.

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Earl Lee
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Once you are relieved of comnan like Allen west you aren’t worth a crap

B52 EWO 72-76
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Yup! A man of honor, who believed what he and his men had done was the honorable thing to do, would have rejected the deal and gone to trial.

Earl Lee
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He knew he couldn’t go to trial and face those 11 years in PRISON!! The man is a disgrace to the uniform, the military and the nation!

B52 EWO 72-76
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Still “B52.” Needed a change. Like I posted last night, I wouldn’t follow him to the latrine.

Brigadier
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And yet, you bow down to Obama, who is the very definition of disgrace. What does that say about YOU, Pearl?

icwydt
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Smart people know the difference between “to” and “too”.

Earl Lee
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anyway……

Andy Martin
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Typical lazy lib-scum. Makes a mistake, has it pointed out to him, and yet is still too lazy to fix it.

Guest
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Give it a rest already!

Earl Lee
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OH….hurts doesn’t it! The man was relieved of command because he dishonored his uniform! A DISGRACE!!!

Andy Martin
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The only thing that must be hurting is your vacuous head with all that screaming you do.

Earl Lee
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And he was still relieved of command

Andy Martin
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And Kerry was still a traitor.

B52 EWO 72-76
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There ya go again, Andy. Makin’ claims with no evidence to back you up!

Andy Martin
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His ragging America before Congress after Nam suffices as facts. Look it up Fido.

Avenida de Maceo
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You obviously have no idea what that war did to this country. Because he challenged Congress, as a civilian mind you, does not make him a traitor. Better come up with some better evidence than that, Andy!

Brigadier
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You are such a broken record, and such a pansy-a$$ed nancy-boy. Why don’t you go fornicate yourself.

I don’t know what your beef with Lt. Col. West is….maybe you are a mooslim sympathizer and didn’t like how he scared one of your brethren into giving up intel on a potential ambush on West’s troops? Is that your problem Pearl?

http://www.militarycorruption.com/LTCWest-1.htm

B52 EWO 72-76
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I know what my beef with West is. He violated the ROE. Essentially participated in a war crime and took the coward’s way out.

Earl Lee
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My beef is that Allen (rob these loons blind) is a BIGOT and a LIAR. He exploits those that will not bother to research anything. He spews HATE and most important…he is a DISGRACE to the military and the nation!

Andy Martin
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[[ BIGOT and a LIAR. ]]

Like Obama and most other libs?

[[ He exploits those that will not bother to research anything. He spews HATE and most important ]]

And you have the right to your opinion and to ignore what he writes. Same goes for others. Why do you lib-scuz have such a problem with the free speech of those you disagree with?

[[ he is a DISGRACE to the military and the nation! ]]

Again. Your angry and biASSed opinion.

B52 EWO 72-76
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Just like what you do, Andy. Do you look in the mirror for your pre-adolescent retorts?

Andy Martin
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My retorts are always appropriate for the poster I am dealing with. If you wish to follow me around like a lost puppy, get better material Fido.

Earl Lee
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I have a problem with domestic terrorist trying to pass off lies as truth

Brigadier
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Then you need to turn yourself in.

Earl Lee
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You first

Brigadier
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What a weak, pansy-a$$ed response. I am not the one defending the terrorists like you are, traitor.

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Project much?

Nancy Gladkin-Hessler
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Nancy Gladkin-Hessler

You’ve just described Obama to a tee! Disgraced uniform or not, relieved of duty or not, I would vote for Mr. West in a heart-beat because he is common-sense intelligent and from all appearances, will take action to preserve and protect America and it’s citizens. Until he does something to prove otherwise, I stand by him. Obama has, by his actions and inaction, harmed us all. You, Earl Lee, are in the dwindling minority of backers who rabidly defend their Obama vote.

Earl Lee
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You will never have the opportunity to “VOTE FOR MR WEST” you LOONS love supporting LOSERS!! West….LOST McCain….LOST Palin…LOST Romney LOST!! Some of you LOONS throw your support behind people that has NOT INTENTIONS OF RUNNING but yet you donate to their fraudulent PACS thinking they will run for something. When did West lose his election and what has he ran for since? Palin…2008 and she STILL hasn’t run for anything…YOU PEOPLE ARE JUST STUPID!

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you are the loser. Everything that you believe in has been proven with Facts to be absolutely false. Your whole life is a fraudulent waste of time. Yet you still go around preaching it like it’s the truth. You are a joke.

Earl Lee
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FACTS are not DEBATABLE!! THEY ARE FACTS LOON! Go look some up! Fasle?? So allen west’s military career didn’t end HORRIBLY and he wasn’t RELIEVED OF COMMAND??

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Did you even bother to read what was posted in response to your slander? Of course you didn’t, because you don’t want to know the truth. READ THE ARTICLE.

Brigadier
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His tiny, tiny mind is made up. don’t try to confuse him with FACTS. It makes him cry to his obamama….

Brigadier
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Delusional to end, eh Pearl? Try READING some facts, will ya?

http://www.militarycorruption.com/LTCWest-1.htm

Brigadier
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Wouldn’t surprise me if the Zero administration is now pressuring everyone to keep new cases of Ebola in the US hush hush……

Xerocky
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We shouldn’t send the troops. It’s obvious.

B52 EWO 72-76
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Obvious, because…West Africa isn’t worth saving?

Xerocky
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Not if saving them, (I’m not 100% sure how having our army build makeshift hospitals is going to save anybody exactly) means spreading the disease to more people in more places in the process.

This is a job for the UN if anybody. If it’s such a great idea, let the whole world chip in. Not just our 101st. They’re not the right tool for the job. Let the UN do it.

Avenida de Maceo
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Ah, “Xero,” we ARE part of the UN. Ergo we would be doing what we are already doing. and, yes! More of the world needs to do the same thing and take the same risks we are. It is about building facilities, not direct treatment. where Ebola really needs to be stopped. Could go on, but I would probably wasting my time.

Xerocky
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I’m aware that the United States is part of the UN. The problem is that the UN doesn’t really do much of anything. So therefore if we were to agree that it was up to them to decide to send troops from all over, chances are that nobody would be deployed and we wouldn’t have to worry about our troops alone bring Ebola back to the United States. So,ergo no, we wouldn’t be doing the same thing. Because you’re kind of a shallow thinker, you’ve missed my point completely. The rest of the world should be helping, but they’re not.… Read more »
Avenida de Maceo
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So, we agree. The UN is always late to the party. But they will come. When they figure out it is in their own best interest. The only way to stop this horrific disease is to contain it at its source. Since/if our troops have no contact with the infected, the troops will not be infected. By fulfilling their mission, West Africa will have more isolation units than we do as a whole; the US has only 9 certified isolation units total. I understand your point, but it is fallacious. Live are ALREADY being saved over there, or haven’t you… Read more »
Xerocky
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“Since/if our troops have no contact with the infected, the troops will not be infected.” What makes you think that exactly? http://www.nature.com/srep/2012/121115/srep00811/full/srep00811.html “” While primates develop systemic infection associated with immune dysregulation resulting in severe hemorrhagic fever, the EBOV infection in swine affects mainly respiratory tract, implicating a potential for airborne transmission of ZEBOV”” So, they’re saying that it’s not airborne, but I’m just not so sure. ” Live are ALREADY being saved over there, or haven’t you been keeping up.” This is from yesterday. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/19/ebola-liberia-death-toll-data-sorious-samura So…? “Once the units are set up, containment abilities will be increased exponentially.” Fine,… Read more »
elle
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You would think there would be nothing like the possibility of a pandemic to wake the world up. The virus has what it needs to mutate with this outbreak. Once airborne we are really going to be up against it. No way in hell do I believe the numbers coming out of Africa or the CDC. Has to be higher considering the environment. Every country in the world than can send people should be sending people. This is a world problem.

IAmAProudAmerican
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People from infected countries must be banned from coming here. It doesn’t matter what country they go to before coming here, they cannot be permitted here. Period.
We had one case of Ebola and 70+ people needed to be monitored. Now we have two more cases and many additional people need to be monitored. This will quickly get out of control unless we ban them from coming here in the first place!
Supplies, equipment and medical assistance can be flown in and returnees can be quarantined in remote locations.
Stop it there….. absolutely! Bring it back here….no way in hell!

jeanbean14
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Obama says he kissed “a couple of the nurses” who cared for Ebola victims. A weird lie, or a reckless act – either way, he’s a fool.

Glenn Warren
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there is nothing he would like better than to declare martial law and deploy the military on American soil.

B52 EWO 72-76
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Anyone hear of passports or visas? No need for a travel ban. All Border Patrol, DHS, whomever needs to do is thoroughly check an individual’s passport at any point of entry. That passport and those visa stamps will show the individual’s “itinerary!” So enough with travel bans. They DON’T work!

Xerocky
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Can you cite an example of their not working before? So…you’re saying that you don’t think a travel ban is a good idea, but we’re going to screen people’s visa’s and do what and to whom? If they’re from Liberia they need to not enter?

That would be a travel ban.

Avenida de Maceo
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“None of this was discussed at the staged cabinet meeting…” I just reread this article. How does Allen know WHAT options were or were not discussed? Without citation, reads like simple personal opinion to me.