Christian persecution in the US: Openly gay Houston mayor demands pastors turn over sermons

My friends, the persecution of Christian pastors has begun in this country. We previously warned about the efforts of the Freedom from Religion Foundation and its secretive settlement with the IRS allowing them to demand sermons to scrutinize for “political activity.” Well, it has indeed happened, in one of the reddest of red states in the reddest county in America: Houston, Harris County, Texas.

As reported by Fox News, “The city of Houston has issued subpoenas demanding a group of pastors turn over any sermons dealing with homosexuality, gender identity or Annise Parker, the city’s first openly lesbian mayor. And those ministers who fail to comply could be held in contempt of court. “The city’s subpoena of sermons and other pastoral communications is both needless and unprecedented,” Alliance Defending Freedom attorney Christina Holcomb said in a statement. “The city council and its attorneys are engaging in an inquisition designed to stifle any critique of its actions.” ADF, a nationally-known law firm specializing in religious liberty cases, is representing five Houston pastors. They filed a motion in Harris County court to stop the subpoenas arguing they are “overbroad, unduly burdensome, harassing, and vexatious.”

If there is anything that should unify Americans, it should be an assault on Christian ministers. It is absolutely amazing that the Obama administration sends a personal congratulatory note to the Islamic center in Oklahoma that spawned Alton Nolen who beheaded a 54-year-old American grandmother — and we have this openly lesbian progressive socialist tyrant allowing a subpoena against Christian pastors.

This is the test case (and as it happens I was just in Houston last week and will be back next Monday) and this is unconscionable! However, if this case is successful, it will be replicated elsewhere — and where is the Left screaming out about First Amendment rights of these pastors: “Freedom of religion and the free exercise thereof?” Where is the ACLU? After all, they care so much about the rights of unlawful enemy combatants aka Islamic jihadists and terrorists.

“Political and social commentary is not a crime,” attorney Holcomb said. “It is protected by the First Amendment.” Fox says, “the subpoenas are just the latest twist in an ongoing saga over Houston’s new non-discrimination ordinance. The law, among other things, would allow men to use the ladies room and vice versa. The city council approved the law in June.”

This is just how upside down Mayor Parker is and reflects her intent to establish a radical far left, gender-blind agenda and through coercion and intimidation, destroy any opposition – including church leaders. This is the tyranny of the Left and the radical gay agenda in full display. And I just have to ask, how does this bring anyone into alignment with the gay community if they are fully supportive of these initiatives?

Houston is home to Pastor Joel Osteen and I wonder if he’s going to make a stand and speak out — or is his ministry just for show? I can bet that just up the road in San Antonio, Pastor John Hagee won’t be taking this lying down. And what about Pastor T.D. Jakes up in Dallas — where does he stand?

Many people laughed when the progressive socialists came out with their “Turn Texas Blue” campaign – who’s laughing now? The State Capitol of Texas, Austin, is well known as a bastion of progressive socialists and now look at what’s happened in Houston — perhaps Gov. Rick Perry should stop going to Blue states and asking them to move to Texas. Leftist progressives are like locusts; wherever they migrate they bring along their destructive policies and agenda in order to infest their new host — just look at how the migration of leftist progressives from California has affected Colorado? And now it’s happening to Texas.

Here’s a clear example of the radical gay agenda and tyranny of Houston Mayor Parker. Per Fox, “the Houston Chronicle reported opponents of the ordinance launched a petition drive that generated more than 50,000 signatures – far more than the 17,269 needed to put a referendum on the ballot. However, the city threw out the petition in August over alleged irregularities.” As voter referendums supporting traditional marriage are being tossed aside by courts, judicial activism and legislating from the bench is alive and well.

“After opponents of the bathroom bill filed a lawsuit, the city’s attorneys responded by issuing the subpoenas against the pastors. The pastors were not part of the lawsuit. However, they were part of a coalition of some 400 Houston-area churches that opposed the ordinance. The churches represent a number of faith groups – from Southern Baptist to non-denominational.”

Mayor Parker won’t explain why she wants to inspect the sermons — and what makes her believe she has the power to do so anyway. Mayor Parker’s director of communications, Janice Evans, said “We don’t comment on litigation.”

Fox reports that “ADF attorney Stanley suspects the mayor wants to publicly shame the ministers. He said he anticipates they will hold up their sermons for public scrutiny. In other words – the city is rummaging for evidence to “out” the pastors as anti-gay bigots. Among those slapped with a subpoena is Steve Riggle, the senior pastor of Grace Community Church. He was ordered to produce all speeches and sermons related to Mayor Annise Parker, homosexuality and gender identity. The mega-church pastor was also ordered to hand over “all communications with members of your congregation” regarding the non-discrimination law. “This is an attempt to chill pastors from speaking to the cultural issues of the day,” Riggle told me. “The mayor would like to silence our voice. She’s a bully.” Rev. Dave Welch, executive director of the Texas Pastor Council, also received a subpoena. He said he will not be intimidated by the mayor.”

I’ve said before that America is under assault from the unholy alliance of progressive socialists, Islamo-fascists, and secular humanists. What is happening in Houston is wrong on so many levels, it defies logic and reason but it is to be expected from the tyranny of the Left.

If Mayor Parker is successful, it will happen in other major American cities under radical progressive socialist control. It is time for all — especially Christian Pastors — to stand up, “be strong and courageous,” and defy this illegal edict reminiscent of Henry the Eighth, who proclaimed himself head of state and head of church.

Mayor Annise Parker is out of control, and knowing the backbone of true Texans and Houstonians, she will be defeated. To the gay community, if this is what you support and believe in, you’re not positively advancing your case – but demonstrating you advocate coercion as a means.

Time to rally America, and let’s send a message to Mayor Annise Parker of Houston: Molon Labe!

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Darren Ryland
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UNCONSTITUTIONAL

simonsaysvoteagain
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Gary Iampaglia
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Exactly.

Snap N McGarrett
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To avoid all of this post-sermon scrutiny, would it be acceptable for you, Mayor Parker, if clergy were to send sermons in advance for your approval? yakunt.

Kim Clark Esposito
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Every single day, I open the news to this type of attack on the traditions of the people of this good ole US. I believe that the more the small minority groups push the majority towards this insane removal of freedoms, the more they will push others to the complete opposite side. For ANY public official to believe they have ANY right to pursue their OWN agenda and not stand up for the rule of law is grounds for removal. If people stand by and do not speak out for the RULE of law…. then we are doomed to be… Read more »
AffanGul
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This agenda-driven “Mayor” needs a constitutional SLAPDOWN. What gives a MAYOR, not even a Governor mind you, not the President, but lowly MAYOR Mc Cheese the power to abrogate the First Amendment??!! It is astonishing. The obliviousness with which this minor politician trashes all limits of propriety, due process and constitutional protection. Sure Gay Lib Democrats are all for TOLERANCE, RESPECT and FREEDOM, except when it clashes with their narrow, perverse leftist agenda. This woman is a FASCIST and needs to be RECALLED. This is AMERICA, not Demo-LibGayistan! Attention Gay Mayors of America you are a tiny minority. You DO… Read more »
NukeWaste
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Let her try that in an AME Zion church!

Lillian DeLuise Kunz
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So wrong!!!

simonsaysvoteagain
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EspressoME
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Well, the mayor ought to know that using taxpayer money in this manner might not bode well with her constituents. Witch hunts went out in the 1600s.

JohnSmith
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This is what the Nazis did under Hitler – Pastors had to let the Gestapo review their sermons! I don’t care about this mayor’s sexuality – I am offended by her anti-constitutional stance on the first amendment!

simonsaysvoteagain
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You should probably educate yourself more about the law and the Constitution…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnson_Amendment

Kelly Bass
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All it takes is one WATCHMEN then the people will follow.We noted at the outset Ezekiel:3:17, where God told the prophet to warn Israel of its sins and His impending punishment, saying, “Son of man, I have made you a watchman for the house of Israel; therefore hear a word from My mouth, and give them warning from Me.” Notice it is God’s message, not Ezekiel’s message or any other prophet’s message. It is always God’s message delivered through the human instrument. The warning comes from God in language phrased to fit the situation and designed to bring people to… Read more »
Linda Kahler
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I thought that with the separation of church and state that churches/temples would lose their tax free status if they engaged in politics. I clearly remember our pastor telling us that we needed to vote our Catholic conscience one election. Nothing more

kr1000
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The Churches can say anything they want legally. If they take a side in politics they run the risk of losing their no-tax status. I personally feel every church should take a stand and if they lose their status then so be it. Christians need to ALWAYS take a stand for what is right and Godly no matter the cost. They have NO legal grounds for asking for the sermon notes. They are welcome to attend the sermons and record them for evidence I suppose. Who knows, maybe they will turn from their sinful ways then. As far as how… Read more »
Hard Boiled
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its as simple as this. if you disagree with Christianity and what it says, why are you going to church? shouldn’t you be in a church that support homosexuality and sin instead?

Tim Alexander
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In Texas of all places! What, does the Left want revolution on their hands? My God! They just keep pushing the envelope don’t they?

simonsaysvoteagain
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Or they’re just looking to enforce the law…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnson_Amendment

DeeDee
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Purposely they keep pushing as they screech equality! Well, if she were seeking out what is being taught in mosques I guess you could call it equality but those on the left like this coward of a Mayor would NEVER do that!

Photogirl4u
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Where does she or he get their authority to do this?

Snap N McGarrett
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Mein Kampf, Communist Manifesto, Democrat Party Platform – pick one.

Snap N McGarrett
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The Gaystapo, emboldened by their effectiveness in getting government into the business of who and who can’t participate in a religious ritual [marriage] – something they have absolutely no standing in – are now using the state to go after what can and cannot be said in a church.

Now, if we could harness the energy of our founders spinning in their graves, we’d end the dependence on fossil fuels instantly.

W Mark Broughton
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What about openly praying for her to see the error of her ways.

Conservative NOT Racist
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Conservative NOT Racist

She’s not a bully, she’s just another liberal piece of trash. It’s time to take out the trash.

williampenn
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The Communist Party and their allies never sleep.

simonsaysvoteagain
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Dumb.

Linda Woodcock
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If she can receive a copy of our sermons than we should receive a copy of what goes on in her bedroom!!!!! YUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

JoeMyGod
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For the last several years hundreds of Christian churches have participated in an annual event during which candidates for office and public referendums were advocated for from the pulpit. This event is conducted precisely in the hopes of goading the federal government into charging them with violating their tax-exempt status. Therefore I fail to understand any outrage over this development in Houston. This is EXACTLY what that national movement has been hoping for.

EDIT: The event is called Pulpit Freedom Sunday and is organized by Alliance Defending Freedom, the very group screaming about the action in Houston. Seriously, people. WTF?

Isaac Carter
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You are talking about an event to challenge the FEDERAL government, or more specifically the IRS, on their regulation that is illegal. This is different, this is a local official attempting to exert control over a large number of churches that have not participated in any such event.

You are trying to justify an unjustifiable act. Sorry, it ain’t flying.

JoeMyGod
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Well, no. Parker’s action is based on the federal law (enacted during the LBJ administration, I think) that bans political actions by tax-exempt 501(C)3 organizations, which includes almost all churches. Many Christian organizations have separate arms specifically formed to make political speech outside of their sister 501(C)3 groups.

Isaac Carter
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No, the law prohibits a tax exempt organization from actively campaigning for a specific candidate. She isn’t a candidate, and speaking out on a social issue is not regulated, nor should it be. Even the IRS has never been so bold as to demand all correspondence from hundreds of organizations. She is not enforcing any law, nor does she have the right or ability to do so. She is just being a bully. She is protecting herself and her personal agenda and would LOVE to be able to sniffle religious freedoms on the way if she is able too. I… Read more »
JoeMyGod
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Partially correct. The law also expressly forbids campaigning for public referendums, in this case the proposed ballot measure to repeal Houston’s anti-discrimination ordinance. You are also correct in that the law is relatively toothless as the IRS has never acted against a church for violations. Despite that inaction, most churches DO refrain from doing so. The movement to encourage violations is attempt to remove this toothless law from the books and encourage pastors to publicly advocate for political causes and candidates from the pulpit.

Isaac Carter
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Does the Mayor of a city have a right to demand evidence from every church in that city to see if there is any evidence to show violation of a federal law that she has no jurisdiction to enforce? They are trolling for evidence without cause on a case that does not even involve the organizations in question. Also, you make it seem way more cut and dry than it is, the IRS rules specifically state that a non profit organization can engage in lobbying and other activities for social or other concerns. The fact is, she is using a… Read more »
JoeMyGod
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Parker likely has jurisdiction due to parallel city/county or Texas state law. Many federal laws are duplicated at lower levels of government. Wikipedia has a decent entry on the Johnson Amendment and references the Alliance Defending Freedom campaign to repeal it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnson_Amendment

Metalmoto
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I don’t put it past this socialist, rug muncher to pull something like this. We expect it from liberals. But how can the courts even support a subpoena of a pastor to turn over their sermons? Don’t they know that it is unconstitutional? I’m not even a Christian. I am agnostic. Without getting too deep into the meaning of that, that means I neither believe nor disbelieve. But that’s not the point. The point is, I support and have defended our constitution, and the freedoms that it affords us as Americans and I can’t stand it when these socialists use… Read more »
fish1552
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I’m wondering if they are going to pull Rev Wright’s sermons in his town and investigate HIS political speeches.

JoeMyGod
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I may have missed a couple, but when I last read about them, the Alliance Defending Freedom had lost 22 consecutive cases in the federal courts. They don’t have the greatest track record.

Tatti Bear
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The church and Conservatives all over this country should be OUTRAGED! My husband gave his life for this country to protect our freedoms. I will be damned if I will stand by and allow some hate-filled Anti-christian bigot make his death something less than honorable. Our vote means everything, especially with court appointments. VOTE.

Jeff Hahn
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I’d fire on anyone who demanded my freedom of speech. It’s on

Rev. Thomas Pedigo
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There are so many well-meaning but misguided Christians in America that think we will be protected – from diseases, from terrorists or from persecution. For the most part, the United States has turned its back on God and we have slowly secularized our nation – we have driven Christianity out of the public square and marketplace of ideas. We are reaping what we’ve sown. Janet Folger was correct in her book entitled “The Criminalization of Christianity” written in 2005. She said that homosexuality would be a key element in the persecution of Christians and restrictions against the Church. It’s happening!… Read more »
simonsaysvoteagain
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We have a secular government. In fact, that was both the intent and the design of our government. So really, any shift that moves us closer to a secular government is adhering to the original principles set forth by the Founding Fathers themselves.

PJ
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I’d go to jail before complying with anything having to do with this idiot!

Brenda
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I hope the churches that have been subpoenaed will resist this tyranny but be willing to take the consequences if denied their freedoms! If Daniel can go to the lion’s den, Peter be crucified upside down on a cross, John be boiled in hot oil, etc. then they can take this bit of venom from the serpent while standing against tyranny! It’s cake in comparison! Stand up church and be the church!

JoeMyGod
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The simplest manner in which to avoid any government oversight of political speech is to surrender tax-exempt status. But don’t hold your breath for that to ever happen.

simonsaysvoteagain
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WINNER!

Dan H
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Screw this Nazi. The churches need to stand together and steadfastly refuse.

Ken Easterling
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Good grief. You folks are going crazy here. Just say no and get on with your life. Sounds like it needs to go to court because it smells to me.

Ondine Angarola
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Welcome to Nazi Germany. The world’s greatest socialist: Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, need I go on? Equate that with over 40 million slaughter in the USSR, more than 6 plus million in Nazi Germany. History is repeating itself. Wake-up America before it’s too late.

simonsaysvoteagain
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Dumbest. Reply. Ever.

Ondine Angarola
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Ignorance is bliss for some. Learn History. The parallels are all there. Learn history and perhaps use your real name when commenting. History is repeating itself. If you knew your history, it would be obvious. Our education system has certainly failed some. Peace out brother.

simonsaysvoteagain
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There is absolutely no parallel between our well-balanced system of government and the ethnically homogeneous one that sprouted out of Germany’s “democracy” in the 1930s. None.

Robert Martineau
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What happened to freedom of religion, those are all religious based issues, this country is falling apart and the far left is taking us down one stone at a time.

Robert Martineau
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So if that is the case she would have to ask the Muslim community for the same, afterall they are openly against homosexuals, but would the far left PC police stop that from happening to the Muslim community, therefore creating a bias against Christians. Just a thought.

O'Malley is a Idiot
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I would tell this BITCH to pound sand .

Gary
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Prosecuting Christians for what they believe in? Kind of sounds familiar, like that whole thousand year period where free thinkers were prosecuted for believing in ideas outside of Scripture. Karma’s a bitch, isn’t it?

Charles Springer
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Never happened.

marvalous
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Flood her office with calls..flood her Twitter account her Facebook take a stand show your support for this pastors

Carla Cox
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MOLON LABE!
this is totally wrong on so many levels, Freedom of speech is ours!

simonsaysvoteagain
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…unless you’re a church claiming tax exempt status in exchange for not engaging in politically partisan organizing…

Ricky Almaguer Jr
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https://www.facebook.com/pages/Coming-Out-of-Darkness/660459507365488?ref=hl
We are praying and support the pastors involved! By the blood of Jesus Christ, we have been redeemed from the sin of homosexuality. We will not be quiet of sharing our testimonies of what the Lord Jesus Christ has done. The scales have been removed from our eyes and we have been freed from the bondage of sin. We must continue to stand on the truth of the Word of God, through persecution and trials. We have overcome by the blood of the Lamb and the word of our testimonies! Glory!!

Amish Prepper
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This is so wrong and she should be sued! We have the right to Freedom of Religion and the right to speech!

simonsaysvoteagain
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But…. you don’t have the right to engage in political organization activities and speech while retaining a tax exempt status….

PapaB
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BobInBpt
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The only circumstances that should allow for this are if sermons of cruel or incendiary messages immediately led to either the suicide of church members or violence by church members against homosexuals. Freedom of Religion should not include bullying or inciting others to violence.

Gene
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There are NO circumstances that this leftist nonsense should be tolerated in America! Especially when the KKK can with a permit, rally and say what they want. The problem is this simple, Homosexuality in all of its forms is wrong, always has been wrong and its proponents and those that practice it know this and are on a never-ending quest for affirmation, often trying to force, through governments, a consensus to validate themselves. What they refuse to acknowledge is that God has already spoken to this strategy by stating emphatically in his word, “Let God be true and every man… Read more »
JoeMyGod
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Christian pastors regularly invoke Leviticus and that “shall be put to death” bit when railing against homosexuals. This is not illegal. A pastor here in NYC has this message on his church’s billboard right now: “Jesus Would Stone Homos.”

Skip Tindle
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Sad that “stoning homos” was never in the bible. All the gay type stuff was in the old testament which Jesus never preached and you don’t have to follow anyhow. People are stupid following an invisible boogie man anyhow.

Gene
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If that passage is quoted, it is to show God’s intolerance of that sin. However, there were other sins, such as incest, adultery, formnication and others that met with the same consequence in the Old Testament. God was NOT tolerant of these SINS because he did NOT want his people corrupt. How something is preached has much to do with the attitude of the sinner. A defiant sinner will rightly engender God’s wrath. God is a God a mercy extending unfathomable mercy and second chances to all of us as we are all sinners. But, when a sinner rejects God’s… Read more »
Terra Pennington
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Everyone should send her a bible with a note that says all my sermons are listed in order from past, present, and future.

Angry Mom
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And, so it begins. GOD help us.

ToThe End
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Your lifestyle saus enough…..your sick..

marvalous
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If ever a time come,when vain men shall possess the highest set’s in government our country will stand in need of it’s experienced patriots to prevent it’s ruin..( Samuel Adams)

Jordan48
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Its’ time for the residents of Houston, TX to initiate a “Recall Petition” and once the required signatures are obtained set a recall election to remove this lawless, self serving, homosexual from public office! This woman is an enemy to the U S Constitution, i.e., Freedom of Religion! The crafty little demons behind her passed into law (Municipal ordnance) a “hate Speech Law” which is nothing less than a political maneuver to abridge our constitutional right to freedom of speech as guaranteed under the 1st Amendment of the U S Constitution! Now, she is using this law to attack the… Read more »
Rena
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I wonder, is she also asking Muslims to do the same?

Lauren Eve Pomerantz
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Did any Muslims join the coalition they are investigating?

Rena
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Does it matter? Which group would more likely attack or incite violence against the LGBT in this day? I would be more inclined to watch what the Muslims are preaching than worry about Christians being anti-gay. But the double standard never ceases when it comes attacking Christians and not others.

Lauren Eve Pomerantz
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Of course it matters. If most burglaries are committed by group A, but a member of group B committed a particular burglary, you don’t go and prosecute a member of group A. Islam also preaches against homosexuality, and gays are routinely targeted with harassment, incarceration, and even capital punishment in Muslim-majority countries. But that doesn’t change the fact that in THIS particular instance, a group of Christians advocated from the pulpit voting against specific gay-friendly legislation. That’s not illegal, but it is a violation of the tax code, and if these preachers did this, they should lose their non-profit status.
Rena
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That would depend on what was said and how it was said and “promoted”. A person can give their thoughts on who should or should not be in office as long as it is not used as a campaign. If these reverends said they do not support this person because of X that is their right because it is a matter of faith, as long as they are not campaigning for Y…

ttsno22
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I’ll bet that no city council anywhere in this country would ever take this step if it pertained to obtaining sermons from an Imam in a Mosque that is preaching hate toward America. Which happens more frequently then most people realize or will admit to.

Jordan48
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In their eyes, Christianity is a far greater threat to their “peace of mind” and quest for acceptance within this society than the fanatical Islamic terrorists who desire the death of their bodies! The fulfillment of the lusts of their flesh bring pleasure, but the reproach of the Word of God is an affliction to their souls!

Gittles
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joe
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Yes, infiltrated. As a specific mission. Because Islam extremists are attacking the country, and some of them were part of mosques in the US and slaughtering people. The sermons and preaching was never publicly subpoenaed and these people weren’t publicly harassed. Nor has anyone from these places been engaged in acts of terrorism killing thousands of people. They believed ENEMY COMBATANTS might be there. The only thing these churches have done wrong is be part of the religion that radical gay activists target the most. Even the signed petition was scraped. This has nothing to do with your articles. Let’s… Read more »
Gittles
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and what did they uncover? nothing. So, if this turns out the same way then you can fight this in court with all your petitions and whatnot

Utahlady
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The only thing that separates this woman from those that are beheading in Iran,etc is the fact that she is here rather than there. Left to do so she would be right out there with the best of the beheaders. Their only goal is to silence anyone who does not agree with them in any way they can!

Reasonoverhate
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It truly amazes me that people actually think this way.

mdy616
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Send the mayor to Iraq and she what happens to her her head for being gay (but we are having beheadings in the states now by the religion of peace members)!!

Her actions here are reprehensible to anyone who believes in freedom of religion. preaching the Bible to Christians so infuriates gays that they are starting a ‘witch” hunt against pastors who might dare to preach what the Bible says!! It amazes me you think this is a good thing…

mdy616
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UNLESS you happen to be muslim then they leave you alone. Seems like the gays would go after the “religion” that advocates stoning them for being gay instead of the religion that teaches love them but do not accept the sin..

Cincinnatus
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This is just the beginning. The LGBT Mafia is just that … ORGANIZED CRIMINALS. They have a menu of understood goals, with a wink and a nod. Their unstated aim is to use the forces of government as their WEAPON to intimidate the 98.5% into subjugation by the forces of perversion.

mdy616
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I will believe the gays really care what is preached when they start demanding all muslims turn over their sermons on gays, Christians and any one who is not a muslim follower. Until then, the gays are just attacking one group, Christians, and trying to bully them. Seems like that is the very thing gays complained about the government did to them. I guess like Obama, they are out for a little revenge by going after the one group that teaches to love the gay but not to accept his sin (the SAME teaching for people who commit adultery, murder,… Read more »
Gittles
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yes, one group advocates killing them but thats it, they aren’t out killing gays are they? The religious right in this country is trying to deny them equal rights and succeeding in places

Reasonoverhate
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You boys sure do have a persecution complex, don’t ya?? Were their any mosques involved in this religious coalition that actively worked against the mayor and this law?

mdy616
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You people like to bury your head in the sand don’t you??!! The mosques don’t actively protest against anything, they just teach people to lop of heads and murder you for your “sin.” But I guess advocating stoning a gay person is not as bad as saying marriage is between a man and a woman.

Keeping your head in the sand won’t stop the religion of peace from cutting it off!!

Michael Leftwich
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While the City of Houston indeed subpoenaed pastors’ sermons, it appears it did so to investigate whether the churches engaged in political organization activities under the guise of preaching. The rest of the article is Anti-Gay Proproganda

Jordan48
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No matter how you twist or bend it, this action is a violation of our 1st and 2nd Amendments to the U S Constitution! This nest of vipers are not so much concerned about the enforcement of law, but more concerned about the revelation of their evil agenda, as they seek to silence those who would speak the truth and expose their wickedness for what it is, lawlessness!

joe
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If that is the truth, why is it only Christian/catholic pastors? Political organization activities? Why aren’t Muslim preachers asked to do the same? Why was the petition that had so many signatures scrapped? Because super gay rights activists only care to discriminate against Christian/catholics. Discrimination, the same thing gay rights activists are fighting against. It’s hypocritical. And it wasn’t anti gay propaganda. It was actually calling out these anti discrimination people, including gay rights activists AND MANY MORE, if you knew how to read. You don’t have to be anti gay to oppose this. That’s just sheeple band wagon thinking… Read more »
Jordan48
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Perhaps the average individual should ask the question why it is only those who profess faith in Jesus Christ that are being attacked and condemned by those who demand political correctness and complete acceptance of their godless lifestyles and foolish ideology! They have made themselves enemies of a holy God who was made manifest unto the world, in the flesh, so that mankind might receive reconciliation with a merciful and holy Lord! They prefer the death of the messenger who proclaims the truth of God as opposed to condemning their own lusts which are manifest within their own bodies! For… Read more »
Lauren Eve Pomerantz
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Maybe because the members of the political coalition all happen to be Christian?

JoeMyGod
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The majority of the petitions were invalidated because they failed to comply with certain stipulations, such as having every page signed by the petition collector. This was very curious, because in their training video (which is still on YouTube) they were VERY CLEAR in advising their volunteers on how to properly complete and submit the forms.

mdy616
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Funny how the IRS over-looks Jeremiah Wrights “sermons” about politics. Or Jessie Jackson’s “sermons” that have everything to do with politics and nothing to do with the Bible.

And since when is it “political organization” to preach the Bible’s stance on gay marriage? Somehow the leftists over-look the muslim stance on just about everything (including stoning of gays).

James Johnson
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While the mayor is indeed investigating pastors’ sermons it appears she is really looking for anything she can highlight as anti-gay speech to be the vanguard of ‘hate-speech’ legislation aimed at pastors that still preach what the bible says–all under the guise of “a political organization activities investigation.”

Jordan48
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Is it better to obey God or to obey this poor blind deceived mayor? All the laws in this country, and there are a great plethora of them, will not silence me, nor will it prevent me from preaching the whole gospel of our holy Lord Jesus Christ! Only the lawless hate the rights of free men to speak the truth! As our holy Lord Jesus said; The wicked walk in darkness and will not come into the light, for if they come into the light, their sins are reproved! I have come that I may bear witness of that… Read more »
JoeMyGod
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I don’t know what you’ve been reading, but there are no hate speech laws in place anywhere in the United States. Never will be. First Amendment.

James Johnson
Guest

I never said there was. That’s why I said this mayor wants to be the VANGUARD of that very thing.

As far as “never will be” (hate speech laws), you underestimate the drive from the tyrannous fascist left and you are not paying attention to what has been going on in universities (designating “free speech zones” for students that are politically incorrect).

JoeMyGod
Guest

Parker has never advocated for hate speech laws. I can’t think of any major politician of any party that has.

JoeMyGod
Guest

Yep.

simonsaysvoteagain
Guest

Winner!

John Williams
Guest

Let’s encourage all of the pastors to send the mayor a Bible! It would be the ideal response. “If you would like to scrutinize my sermon, it is my best possible interpretation of this literature. If you want to silence my sermon, you will have to ban the distribution of the Bible”

Jordan48
Guest

They will be getting around to that as soon as the disciple of Satan (Obamanation) declares “martial law” and abolishes the entire legislative branch of our government.

Gittles
Guest

as long as its followed by: “if you follow biblical laws then you have to follow all of them, such as, stoning to death disobedient children, chasing women out of town while they’re on their period or selling your daughter into slavery”

if the bible is the word of god then you HAVE to follow every rule in it, otherwise you’re disobeying god, correct?

Maxximiliann
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“Freedom in the ancient Near East was a relative, not an absolute state, as the ambiguity of the term for “slave” in all the region’s languages illustrates. “Slave” could be used to refer to a subordinate in the social ladder. Thus the subjects of a king were called his “slaves,” even though they were free citizens. The king himself, if a vassal, was the “slave” of his emperor; kings, emperors, and commoners alike were “slaves” of the gods. Even a social inferior, when addressing a social superior, referred to himself out of politeness as “your slave.” There were, moreover, a… Read more »
Maxximiliann
Guest

RE: Deuteronomy 21:18-21

An objective reading of this passage reveals that the penalty prescribed is for a ‘glutton and a drunkard’. As such, it is intellectually dishonest to conclude that this passage refers to young children.

Furthermore, this penalty would have to be the result of a trial brought before “the older men of his city”. The execution of any individual accused of any crime without a trial would be murder – also punishable by death.

To overlook these facts in your facetious attempt to morally indict God is not only noetical deceit, it’s an obscene perversion of the truth.

Jordan48
Guest
Actually, those ordinances were for those who lived in the Dispensation period of the LAW! That dispensation was transformed into the current dispensation of grace, when the Son of God, Jesus Christ, died upon the cross at Calvary; as the perfect blood sacrifice for the remission of all man’s sins by faith in Jesus Christ and was made alive again, resurrected from the grave! It was written, by the Apostle Paul, under the annointing of the Holy Ghost, wherein our holy Lord spoke through Paul these words: “The preaching of the message of the cross is foolishness to those who… Read more »
James Johnson
Guest

You might want to go to Israel and make that argument there. This country was founded on Christian principles from the New Covenant of Jesus Christ, and the prescriptions for conduct outlined by His disciples in the New Testament. We are under the Law of Christ, not the Mosaic law.

Jordan48
Guest
Correction beloved of Christ,; We, who are the elect of our heavenly Father, live under grace, for salvation is the gift of our holy God, it is not through obedience to the law (works), but it is a free gift, lest any man boast of the works he has done, thereby making the death and resurrection of our savior Jesus Christ as to having no affect or value! In simple terms, if salvation is earned by our works, then Christ died in vain! Some religions teach that we must do works to receive eternal life, but I say unto you… Read more »
James Johnson
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I agree with everything you said; however, I think you misunderstood my comment. We are saved by grace through faith–yes! When we have a genuine faith and don’t want to do anything displeasing to God, we seek out proper ways to conduct ourselves (e.g. even though I’m saved I don’t like to curse anymore–“Don’t use foul or abusive language. Let everything you say be good and helpful, so that your words will be an encouragement to those who hear them.” Ephesians 4:29). I don’t think not cursing will earn my way to heaven. But I don’t want to curse because… Read more »
Lauren Eve Pomerantz
Guest

This country was founded on secular principles by people who were opposed to the leader of a nation being the leader of the official church of that nation.

James Johnson
Guest
You are correct that our founders were “opposed to the leader of a nation being the leader of the official church of that nation.” In other words they did not want a theocracy. But to say “secular principles (secularism)” is what our country was founded on is completely ridiculous. Consider the words of John Adams, Signer of the Declaration of Independence, and Second President of the United States: “[I]t is religion and morality alone which can establish the principles upon which freedom can securely stand. The only foundation of a free constitution is pure virtue.” (Source: John Adams, The Works… Read more »
Gittles
Guest

no it wasn’t

John Williams
Guest

Just love it when non believers try to tell us how to interpret the Bible. What you claim the Bible instructs us to do is not on issue. The subpoena is regarding what they preached regarding homosexuality, and if the preachers sermon was how he interpreted the Bible, then a copy of the Bible would meet the subpoena.

Gittles
Guest

i love it when believers say they believe in the bible but then don’t follow all of the rules of it if its something they disagree with. who are you to argue with the word of god and decide which of his rules are to be followed and which are not to be followed?