Christian women and children rounded up by Saudi Arabia “Commission for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice”

You all know the saying of mine, “when tolerance becomes a one way street it leads to cultural suicide.” I believe that just about sums up the issues we have in the western world in contending with Islamo-fascism — our one-way tolerance in the face of intolerance. And I for one will not surrender to intolerance, all for the agenda of PC multiculturalism. Talk about a one-way street — “infidels” and “kafirs” are not allowed in the holy cities of Mecca and Medina in Saudi Arabia.

And as reported by the UK Daily Mail, that’s just the tip of the iceberg, “Islamist police in Saudi Arabia have stormed a Christian prayer meeting and arrested its entire congregation, including women and children, and confiscated their bibles. The raid was the latest incident of a broadening crackdown on religious minorities in Saudi Arabia by the country’s hard-line Commission for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice. The 28 Christians were said to be worshipping at the home of an Indian national in the eastern city of Khafji, when the police entered the building and took them into custody. They have not been seen or heard from since, raising concerns among human rights groups as to their whereabouts.”

You see, in Saudi Arabia, you cannot have a Bible – that’s just another example of Islam’s definition of coexist.

Fox News reports, “an article posted on the Arabic-language news website Akhbar 24 said the arrests came after the Kingdom’s religious police got a tip about a home-based church. The report further noted that “distorted writings of the Bible were found and musical instruments, noting their referral to the jurisdictional institutions.”

Can you just imagine if that were to happen to a mosque in America? We have ia First Amendment right to the freedom of religion and the free exercise thereof — although the Freedom from Religion Foundation and the Military Religious Freedom Foundation continue their slow assault on Christianity in them military, as we’ve reported. Here in America, Muslim Brotherhood affiliated groups can openly advocate their ideology, which is antithetical to that of our Constitutional Republic — but hey, we’re multicultural and want to coexist so it’s all cool to talk bout undermining our rule of law with Sharia law.

Nina Shea, director of the Washington-based Hudson Institute’s Center for Religious Freedom, told Fox News, “Saudi Arabia is continuing the religious cleansing that has always been its official policy. ‘It is the only nation state in the world with the official policy of banning all churches. This is enforced even though there are over two million Christian foreign workers in that country. Those victimized are typically poor, from Asian and African countries with weak governments.”

I doubt the Obama administration will do anything since it basically sat on the sidelines while a Sudanese woman married to a naturalized American was sentenced to death and held in a Sudanese prison — all for her Christian faith. Meriam Ibrahim was believed to be an apostate, a Muslim who had converted to Christianity — especially since her father was a Muslim, even though he abandoned her family, and her mother was Christian — another example of the Islamic definition of coexistence.

Rep. Frank Wolf, R-Va, told Fox News he will press the U.S. ambassador in Riyadh and the State Department to assist the arrested Christians. “I hope our government will speak up,” said Wolf, adding that the anti-Christian raid was not surprising given that the Saudi regime “did not want our soldiers to wear crosses during the Desert Storm” operation in 1991 to stop the Iraqi invasion. A spokeswoman for Saudi Arabia’s embassy press officer, Nail Al-Jubeir, in Washington, told Fox News that “Mr. Jubeir has nothing on that [arrests of Christians].” She suggested calling the Saudi Gazette newspaper.

At such a critical time when ISIS is on the rise, what does this say about King Abdullah and Saudi Arabia?

Fox reports that Ms. Shea of the Hudson Institute says, “Such actions are especially dangerous in the current situation, where the world is seeing the rise of extreme Islamist groups in Iraq, Syria, Nigeria, Somalia and elsewhere. The West should demand that its strategic ally, Saudi Arabia, release the Christians at once and allow them to pray according to their own faith traditions. Otherwise, Riyadh will appear to be validating the practices of the Islamic State in northern Iraq and Syria.”

Frankly, I wouldn’t want to enjoin in a coalition with Saudi Arabia unless they reform themselves — otherwise, they are no different from ISIS and every other Islamo-fascist state supporter and terrorist organization in existence. As a matter of fact, the Saudis are worse because, they are duplicative hypocritical enablers and cannot be trusted. I would make any coalition support from the Saudis contingent upon their respect of all religions and the right to freedom and free exercise within that country.

Our Secretary of State, John Kerry, is scheduled to visit Saudi Arabia to discuss building a coalition against ISIS — he should demand the release of these Christians and recognition of the Judeo-Christian faith by the Saudis. Do I think that will happen? Well, based upon the precedent of Kerry visiting Mexico and the fact that US Marine Corps SGT Andrew Tahmooressi is still being held — nah!

I have an idea for all the cultural jihadists apologists — start another hashtag campaign or send a bunch of “coexist” bumper stickers to Saudi Arabia. I’m sure that will have an impact. Religion of peace, my arse. Just a bunch of 7th century savages with 21st century funding, resources, and technology.

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TruConserv
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| You all know the saying of mine, “when tolerance becomes a one way street it leads to cultural suicide.” | That has to be one of the stupidest things I have ever read, at least as applied here. If the tolerance you seek on the two-way basis applies to Americans within America, then okay, it’s just a trivial statement. If the tolerance you seek is between countries, and if the counties don’t give you the two way tolerance then you’ll take it out on Americans, then we’re back to the land of stupid s#$% Allen West says. What West… Read more »
Adetoz
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Do you know that CAIR, ISNA, MSA and many muslim brotherhood affliated organisations have personal who are advisers to this present American administration?
Do you know that this administration stopped the FBI from looking at any Islamic terroist organisation as having having Islamic afflication. They even purged the FBI training manual they deemed to be “Islamophobic”

Open you eyes and wake up, your government sent millions to the Muslim Brotherhood, an Islamic Facist organisation whose stated goal is to rule the world through Sharia law and undermine human freedom.

You are not conservative…but a traitor to the flag, go away!

TruConserv
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Wow – boogyman words. Should I shudder now or later?

Sure, Muslim groups – and Christian, Buddhist, Jewish and other faiths – are consulted by the Administration. Did you expect something else?

Money for the Muslim Brotherhood? Think again: http://www.politifact.com/rhode-island/statements/2012/apr/27/barry-hinckley/us-senate-candidate-barry-hinckley-says-obama-admi/

Oy …

You’re so deep in the bubble that you’ll believe anything, except the plain language of the Constitution.

Glenn Sharp
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Tru Conserve,
Islam has the stated purpose of installing Shari’a law throughout the world. This is a fact. Now, that reduces you to two choices.1) Convert to Islam and install Shari’a law. 2) Us vs Them. Pretty simple. Your “Tolerance” will be your death.

Brendan
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Please tell me what religion does not want everyone to follow their beliefs.

TruConserv
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Sorry, that’s not a fact. That’s an interpretation that 7-percent of Muslims follow, but 93-percent don’t.

Would you kill those 93-percent to reach the 7-percent?

Some 5-percent of college males will commit a sexual assault. Should we lock up all college males so as to reach that 5-percent?

Logic, it’s more than just a good idea.

cooderhole
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But he kisses babies, and is in the news , A politicians. how can he be wrong?
Oh I forgot he went to the oilman of the year party too. He’s got to be a stand up guy.

CheetoBuster
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Islam is our enemy and as long as that enemy is still threatening the USA there should not be 1 mosque in America!! Political correctness is our weakness and that is what is destroying us. Why can’t we profile terrorists in America? Political correctness….it’s insane!!

TruConserv
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Sorry you hate the US Constitution so much. Why don’t you leave — or maybe just read the US Constitution for once? It’s not political correctness, it’s Constitutional Law. FWIW: even since 9/11 you’re statistically more likely to be attacked &/or killed by a non-jihadist terrorists than by a jihadist terrorists. Since 1930, you’re more likely to be killed by a Christian Terrorist than a jihadist one. Would it have been fair to profile white males as killers back when the KKK was lynching at least one person a week in the south, as they ran up a toll of… Read more »
CheetoBuster
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Yes, they should have profiled white racists in the south, maybe then they could have saved some lives!! It’s people like you and your thinking that will make sure the USA is destroyed for good. Do you even realize how many radical Muslims are already here? They don’t give a crap about our constitution and people like you! You are naive if you think the constitution alone is what is going to save you!! Wake up!!

TruConserv
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BTW: the profile would have been all white males. The profile would have locked up all white males in the South. Is that really what you would have supported?

CheetoBuster
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You are ignorant…profiling does not mean LOCKING UP everyone!! Like I said, you are the type that will make sure the USA is destroyed

TruConserv
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Should they have stopped and harassed every white man in the south during the height of the lynchings? Considering the KKK is a christian organization, should they have shut down every Christian Church? Not one Christian Church while we were at war with the Christian Terrorists?

CheetoBuster
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What Christian terrorists? The KKK was not a Christian organization, nice try. They were democrats who hated Catholics though. YOu are just speaking nonsense now, and you have proven to not have any common sense.

TruConserv
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The KKK self identifies as Christian, so they must be Christian, right? Just like when we argue that because ISIS self identifies as Islamic, so too they must be Islamic, right.

ISIS is to Islam what the KKK is to Christianity.

http://www.christianpost.com/news/kkk-leader-were-a-christian-organization-claims-the-klan-is-not-a-hate-group-116614/

James Johnson
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Correction: “Moderates” are to Islam what the KKK is to Christianity. The KKK are HERETICS to the teachings of Christ, while ISIS are ADHERENTS to the teachings of Muhammed. You won’t find any point of reference from the teachings of Christ or the apostles that PRESCRIBE what the KKK did. ISIS, on the other hand, has made it clear they are waging jihad for Allah–they praise Allah when they kill (i.e. they kill “in the name of Allah”), plenty of actions are a reflection of scriptures taken from the Quran, and you will find plenty of references from the teachings… Read more »
TruConserv
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FWIW: Jefferson had no problem with Muslims. He knew a bit about the Constitution and about the Qu’ran. He wrote one and read the other. What about you? What makes you qualified to tell TJ that he was a deluded fool? [He] said “neither Pagan nor Mahamedan [Muslim] nor Jew ought to be excluded from the civil rights of the Commonwealth because of his religion.”
 — Thomas Jefferson, quoting John Locke, 1776
 I suggest you read this from the Library of Congress: http://www.loc.gov/loc/lcib/0205/tolerance.html And then this: The book: Thomas Jefferson’s Qur’an: Islam and the Founders. It’s an real scholarly work… Read more »
James Johnson
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A thorough debunking and refutation of the claims made from your James Hutson, Library of Congress article (with your Thomas Jefferson proof-text). My original argument is essentially this article (with quotes from our founders that shared my sentiments–great minds think alike!) truncated into a simple syllogism. CHECKMATE! http://www.apologeticspress.org/APContent.aspx?category=7&article=4622

TruConserv
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Meh. Quoting a Justice who claimed to hate slavery but upheld it as legal because that was the only way he could maintain his property rights arguments is weak tea. The vast weight of scholarly work stands against your proposition. I trust the historians at the Library of Congress over the addled mind of an avowed hater of Islam.

TruConserv
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That’s hardly a debunking, but it’s consistent with your posting history – find the one-off, the extremist, and declare that because they think like you then they must be right, all the others who argue against that position are wrong.

The great wealth of research disagrees with Story, an jurist known for his work on property rights (that I agree with) and mocked for his understanding of civil and religious rights. Indeed, Story claimed he despised slavery, but voted to uphold the practice many times, because of his positions on personal property.

James Johnson
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What is not addressed in those links you provided is Sharia Law. Do you honestly think Thomas Jefferson wrote the Constitution with the idea of Muslims having the freedom to practice Sharia Law in America? If so, do you think he also had in mind the possibility of Muslims becoming a majority and demanding Sharia Law be the law of the land? Do you think Sharia Law is compatible with our Constitution? “Honor no other God, no graven images, do not covet, rape, forced marriages, etc…” You brought up DESCRIPTIONS of past events and prescriptions to the Levitical Law of… Read more »
TruConserv
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Again, you think I am at all impressed with your cherry picked quotes, from either the Bible or the Qu’ran? I showed you how the Bible can come off looking bad when taken out of context, why would I give any credence to you taking some Qu’ran quotes out of context? More than 1.4 Billion Muslims who have studied their faith every day don’t attribute the hate to it that you demand we all see? Sharia law? Who the heck is advocating that – certainly not the 8 million Muslims that live in the US. I thought you were against… Read more »
James Johnson
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continued… Similarly, if someone discriminates against a known Islamofascist member, that Islamofascist member should have no standing in court to sue the person discriminating against someone that wants nothing to do with that controlling, dominating, subjugating, violent, intimidating, quixotic and dangerous jihadist ideology that puts their business and their customers at risk any time the Islmafascist encounters something contrary to their “religion of peace” (like this peaceful Islamofascist here just youtube “Muslim KFC worker goes nuts when asked for bacon ). As far as who is advocating Sharia Law, you really have your head in the sand don’t you? Do… Read more »
TruConserv
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Sorry, your sources aren’t credible, and even if they were, I don’t get what point you think they make. You went and found a bunch of people, like you, who don’t reveal their research, they just announce conclusions – conclusions that are at odds with contemporary research, be that research quantitative or policy based. Great – what the heck does that have to do with anything? BTW: That ME article is just on hot mess of fail. You cite a well-know anti-Muslim journal whee a columnist claims a group “may” do something. “May?” An author who has an anti-Muslim fetish… Read more »
James Johnson
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You act as if any group of nuts gather together and call themselves a “religion” that group has a blank check that affords them rights, privileges, and exemptions no matter what their religion advocates, even if it violates The Constitution. I’m not saying you are not allowed to believe Muhammad is the prophet and believing the spread of Islam at all costs is the apex of virtue should be criminalized. What I am saying is the right to build a house of worship does not apply to those that want to build an instructional house of jihad, (which according to… Read more »
TruConserv
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You don’t have a very good grasp of what being a religion in America affords you. The only right you have is free worship without undue gov’t interference and some protections against unlawful discrimination as a “suspect class.” The only privilege you have is … none. I You get no privileges from the US gov’t for being a religion. I don’t buy into the Christian Privilege nonsense and as a conservative neither should you. There are a few exemptions from a few laws and some taxes (assuming non-political conduct), but only so as to ensure the free exercise of religion.… Read more »
TruConserv
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No, actually I don’t believe that. I’m asking you to articulate the test you would use — the legal test that we would apply to every religion — to determine if they could be established in the United States. You keep swinging back to Islam is evil, so they can’t be a religion, because Islam is evil. You’re offering a tautology – and a pretty lame one at that. You seemingly don’t understand the concept of “protected class” and what that means in Constitutional Law. You’re actually making my point at the end. ISIS is to Islam, what the KKK… Read more »
TruConserv
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Given the didactic nature of the bible, yours is a distinction without a difference. If your interpretation was correct, then the Holly Bible would be worthless as a teaching instrument. You’ve already demonstrated your contempt for Thomas Jefferson and the US Constitution. Is it your hope to also mock the Bible as being non-instructive, non-informative blather? The KKK state they are Christians. You and I disagree and jointly state the KKK members are heretics. ISIS claims they are Islamic. 93-percent of Muslims disagree and declare ISIS and other radicals are Heretics. Who are you to tell the Muslims they don’t… Read more »
CheetoBuster
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They hate Catholics and Catholics are Christian…..hmmmm, with that said, any church that is a breeding ground for terrorists that want to kill American citizens should absolutely be shut down!

I live in the present. We are no at war with Christians, we are at war with Islam! You can stand with Islam, I’ll stand with America!

TruConserv
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ISIL is in a hot war with Muslims, and Muslims are Islamic …. hmmmmmm, then ISIL can’t be Islamic by your logic.

We are not at war with Islam. We are at war with a faction, a splinter-group of Islam. Our allies include some of the largest Islamic countries in the world. Are we at war with our allies?

See what happens when you succumb to fear and hate — you come off like a loon.

CheetoBuster
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LOL if you believe Saudi Arabia and any other Arab nation has our back….

TruConserv
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Ever hear the phrase “land of the free and home of the brave?”

It takes courage to live in a land where others are free to act as they wish, just as you are free to do the same.

If you lack the courage to live under the Constitution, then leave. Seriously, if you don’t have the stones to live free, then go somewhere safer, but less free.

CheetoBuster
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Who ever said they couldn’t live here free? Who ever said they couldn’t pray in their own homes etc.? Mosque’s are a breeding ground for terrorists, it has already been proven! Profiling the good from the bad is what saves lives!! You are just a naive little boy who thinks the constitution is all that matters! YOu certainly don’t have any common sense, everyone loses when common sense is thrown out!!

TruConserv
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You said no Mosques, not one, in America. That’s unconstitutional.

We live under a Constitution that you hate, so leave. Please, just leave. Go find someplace where you can sleep at night because anyone different from you has been relegated to second class, or shot. Which would you prefer?

James Johnson
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I’m glad you brought up the Constitution because every American that stands for “tolerance” of ALL religions needs to understand religious freedom can never supersede fundamental constitutional freedom (life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness). If we allow that we can allow anything–including infiltration of those seeking our decimation–all under the guise of “religious freedom”. Fundamental rights cannot be taken away by any “religion”. The Constitution, therefore, can only offer protection for religions that are accordant with the fundamental rights (life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness) the Constitution was set up to protect, otherwise the Constitution could actually offer… Read more »
TruConserv
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You fail on P3, but thank you for taking an informed approach. You can’t just make a naked declaration and expect it to be taken like some “given” in geometry.

James Johnson
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P3 is not a naked declaration. It is an informed premise taken from the prescriptions from the Quran itself that does not recognize our fundamental rights outlined in the Constitution. Women do not share the same rights as men, infidels (unbelievers) do not share the same rights as Muslims, and apostates do not even have the right to live according to the Quran. There are 13 countries in the world where atheism is punishable by death. All 13 countries are Islamic. So instead of just replying with, “NUH-UH!” on P3, why don’t you show me how ISLAM (not Muslims) is… Read more »
TruConserv
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Really, to bad you didn’t show some of that “informed premise.” In other words, if you don’t show your work, it’s just a naked declaration. Your outlined concerns would matter if that applied to political life. For 93-percent of Islam, that applies just to faith. Women are subordinate to men? Are you sure you’ve read the bible? Many Christians feel exactly the same. Galatians 3:28. Non-believers don’t have the same rights? Go talk to the Mormons, who burn the carpets in their Temples is an non-believer steps into a forbidden area. Don’t even get me started on the Shinto religion!… Read more »
CheetoBuster
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Yes, at a time of war when we need to defend ourselves against the enemy who is here this is only a common sense approach. I know it hurts your wittle feewings , but it will save lives and that’s what matters during times of war!! During times of war the constitution does not apply to the enemy and having terrorists and sleeper cells coming out of American mosques have proven they are our enemy! I love how you try to tell me I hate the constitution as if that helps your idiocy. People die because of morons like you!… Read more »
TruConserv
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Ohhhh, this is rich. Do tell, how would closing down all mosques, but allowing Muslims to practice Islam in their homes, make the US safe?

Wait, wait, I need to go get some popcorn for this … okay, continue …

CheetoBuster
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Why couldn’t they? I guess you have no clue how profiling works, you are lost in your “only the constitution” can save us BS. You really have no clue of how to protect people from the enemy, but go ahead, keep emboldening the terrorists with the constitution that is supposed to protect America!

TruConserv
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No, come on, tell us how depriving a religion of its right to assemble and to practice their faith in mosques will make us more safe … unless you were just lying to us, unless you were venting your hate for all Muslims because of the acts a minority in a land far, far away.

Yes, mock me for my love of the Constitution. Then leave. The Constitution is the law. You can’t abide by our laws, so leave.

CheetoBuster
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I won’t keep repeating myself to someone who just doesn’t understand how to truly protect America.

LOL, you don’t love the constitution, you just use it to protect those who want to harm us.

TruConserv
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Actually, you haven’t written a word on how denying Muslims their Constitutional rights will protect us. You’ve made a naked declaration, but you left out any trace of fact or cogent argument.

I guess we’ll have to mark you down as lying.

Najwa
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Q. Would you show some tolerance and build mosques in the Vatican? Just wondering!

Adetoz
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they were worshiping in their own homes! What is wrong with you!!! the Vatican has repented and apologized for its past ills, Islam doesn’t only continue its oppression, it justifies it.

James
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Our continued appeasement of Saudi Arabia
Is not
Logical

I can’t think of any reason why we do it in the face of all these human rights violations and likely sponsorship of terrorism, can you?

Brendan
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American Muslims have not outlawed Christianity.
This is a retarded article.
You want to punish American Muslims because of what the government of Saudi Arabia does?

Why don’t you come tell my patriotic American Muslim neighbors, whose family came from Albania, that you want to restrict their Constitutional rights because of the intoierant policies of the government of Saudi Arabia? …and just see how stupid and unAmerican you sound.

I bet you thought rounding up Americans of Japanese descent during World War Two was a good idea too.

Andy Martin
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I’ll bet you think Hassan is maligned too. Right Tariq?

Brendan
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Hassan who?
There are more than one.
Try harder chickenhawk

Andy Martin
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Your pal at Ft Hood Tariq.

JANUS
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American Muslims receive funding for mosques from Saudi Arabia…follow the money and it will lead you to the lie, follow the lie and it lead you to Mohammed.

elle
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and follow muhammaed and it will lead you to hell.

Brendan
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yes… many American mosques receive some funding from wealthy muslims in other countries… the same way wealthy American Christians donate money to build churches in other countries.

JANUS
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Good muslims destroyed the twin towers with foreign aid. Good muslims bombed the Boston Marathon. And they both went to American mosques that were built with foreign muslim’s aid money. It’s so good of them.

Brendan
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Good Muslims died in the towers. Good Muslims helped rescue people. Good Muslims have joined the US military and died fighting radical Muslims in our war on terror. Good Muslims hate the radicals.

And good Muslims have to put up with being called evil by idiots who can’t tell them apart.

Andy Martin
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You ignorant terrorist lover……….. Islam in a public school http://www.wnd.com/2014/01/islam-in-a-public-school/ WorldNetDaily Jan 19, 2014 – Islam in a public school … They were happy that Islam was beingtaught, because they wanted their kids to be cultured and learn about other … Public School Promotes 5 Pillars of Islam | Todd Starnes radio.foxnews.com › Home › Top Stories Fox News Radio Aug 19, 2013 – Nevertheless, the school has removed the Islamic bulletin board until the subject matter is taught later this fall. School officials said the study of … Islam in California Schools-Truth! and Fiction! – Truth or Fiction http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/b/byronislam.htm… Read more »
Brendan
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Sorry… I’m not a terrorist lover.
i fought them while you were too busy making excuses chickenhawk.

And what does your babbling rant have to do with this subject?
Do you have an attention deficit disorder?

Andy Martin
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You’re the biggest ISIS shill here. And stop lying about serving. You clowns are a dime-a-dozen here. Now go play with your GI Joe.

Brendan
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awww… does it hurt your feelings to be faced with the reality that you missed your opportunity to serve? Tell me you unAmerican cowardly chickenhawk… for all your phony tough talk about protecting America, why did you never have the balls to step up and serve in the military? I understand why you are lashing out at me and hurling childish insults. You know that I’m right but you just don’t like it… and you can’t argue with me, so you lash out like a child throwing a tantrum. And deep down you are just jealous of the real men… Read more »
Andy Martin
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[[ awww… does it hurt your feelings to be faced with the reality that you missed your opportunity to serve? ]]

I was fortunate to never have been drafted for Nam. At least I am honest about it. It is far worse when some terrorist apologist lies about serving and then defends the scum that cuts people’s heads off. Get some class in your useless and dispensable life and stop hiding behind a military career you never had in order to justify your rationale for promoting ISIS.

Brendan
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hahaha… I believe ISIS should be destroyed and, to you, that makes me an ISIS supporter???
hahaha
You are a moron.

Congratulations on dodging military service coward.
It’s clear that you regret that cowardly decision by your jealousy of those of us that actually did serve and by your chickenhawk ignorant statements about how we (by which you mean not you) should fight the war on terror.

I bet you were spitting on soldiers while you were avoiding serving

Andy Martin
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[[ hahaha ]] Are you a 12 YO? [[ Congratulations on dodging military service coward ]] What dodge? I registered for the draft and Nam ended shortly thereafter. I’m honest about it. How sad your life must be that you have to make up a thin veneer of manhood by claiming to have served. Whatsamatta? No father figure around? Lack of testosterone kid? [[ I bet you were spitting on soldiers while you were avoiding serving ]] I was hoping to never get called into that meat grinder in Nam. A punk like you? You would have offed yourself if… Read more »
Brendan
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Sorry kid… I served. I volunteered. You could have volunteered too… but you’re the type of coward who likes to talk tough about what our military should do, so long as it’s other people actually doing the fighting. I know you’re jealous and you’re just lashing out with stupid insults. I write that I think ISIS is a threat that needs to be wiped out and you respond by writing that I’m an ISIS supporter. I write about serving in the military and it upsets you so much that you have to write that I didn’t. The ignorant insults of… Read more »
Andy Martin
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It’s always the liars who protest too much about having served. If you had really served you wouldn’t feel the need to keep defending yourself. ======================================== Why do people lie about military service? – inFormation … blogs.pjstar.com/…/why-do-people-lie-about-military-service… Journal Star May 24, 2010 – I have posted a lot about so-called fakers, posers or whatever you want to call people to lie about serving in the military. I have long lamented … Why do people lie about military service? 4 years, 118 days agoMay 24, 2010fakers I have posted a lot about so-called fakers, posers or whatever you want to call… Read more »
Andy Martin
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Put up your DD214 and post your MOS. Absent that, you’re a fraud and a pretender wannabe with no life and no manhood.

Brendan
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Sorry bub, I’m not sending you a copy of my DD214 to give you my personal identity information. As to my MOS, I enlisted as a simple unassigned 11X and left as an 11B2V. You can go ask some of your man friends what that means. It’s hilarious that a draft dodger like you who never served, but talks tough on the internet about what the military should do, would call someone who actually did serve a wannabe with no life and no manhood. It doesn’t take a degree in psychology to see that your externalized anger is just a… Read more »
Andy Martin
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You’r dodge is noted GI Joe. Now go back to servicing your goat and feeding your camel Tariq. No draft dodge kid. Registered and never called. And 11x means nothing. All people who come in are 11x. The ranger thing is a little overreaching kid. I can use the internet too Tariq. Doesn’t take much manhood to play wannabe soldier as you cop ISIS joint. [[ It doesn’t take a degree in psychology to see that your externalized anger is just a way for you to avoid dealing with your internal shame.]] Says the play soldier who’s pi$$ed at people… Read more »
Brendan
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hahaha… you know nothing about the Army. Not everyone who enlists goes in as 11X… only those who enlist as infantry go in as 11X you idiot. It’s pathetic that not only can’t you deal with the fact that I served, but you also keep imagining that i support terrorism even though I keep saying radical Islamists need to be completely wiped out… but somehow you interpret that as supporting terrorism. And yes, you avoided service coward. You could have enlisted… but you made a choice not to. You didn’t have to leave it up to chance. Your excuses are… Read more »
Andy Martin
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Let it go Brenda. You’ve been exposed. 11X isn’t actually an MOS (Military Occupation Speciality). Instead, it’s an enlistment option. The Army does not offer a “guaranteed job” for any specific infantry MOS. Instead, one must enlist as an “11X.” The “X” means that the specific job is not known at the time of enlistment. [[ And yes, you avoided service coward.]] I registered for the draft and Nam ended shortly thereafter. I told the truth while you invented your imaginary GI Joe life. [[ You could have enlisted… but you made a choice not to.]] Yep! Let the gooks… Read more »
Brendan
Guest

Wrong again. 11x is the MOS of unassigned infantry, prior to completing AIT. You do not understand that all soldiers have an assigned MOS, even initial enlistees
You also fail to understand that there is an MOS for all enlistment options.
Your misunderstanding info you read drom your google search doesn’t trump my actual life experience, you ignorant chickenhawk.

I’m done wasting my time with a coward like you. You still think that me saying ISIS needs to be wiped out is me defending them.

Andy Martin
Guest

Give it up Brenda. No one is listening to your lies any more.

Earl Lee
Guest

Thank you for your service! Something that these LOONS don’t understand!

Andy Martin
Guest

The only ‘service’ Barbara…………er Brendan ever did was for sailors on leave at Great Lakes Naval Center. He was known as Private Parts. How long have you been Barbara’s footman?

Earl Lee
Guest

The man serves with honor and you people put him down…. New flash not only republicans serve!! Wait … Republicans are usually draft dodgers!!!

Andy Martin
Guest

And of course a simpleton like you believes trolls like Brendunce. You two should get a room.

James Johnson
Guest
Mr. West did not speak against “Muslims”, he spoke against Islam. There is a difference. The difference seems negligible, but is significant. It’s like the difference between criticizing Cubans and criticizing communism. We can criticize the dangers/evil of communism without implying all Cubans that live under communism are evil. Your “American Muslim” neighbors are an oxymoron. They can only be “American” in the technical sense of where they reside–in America. However, if you are using the term as an insinuation of shared American ideals of “All men are created equal (i.e. what undergirds our Civil Rights)”, then you are using… Read more »
Brendan
Guest

Not all Muslims follow the Koran in the same way.
If you haven’t noticed there are different sects of Islam and, aside from the conflict between these, sects, there is also a struggle between moderates and fanatics going on in the Muslim world.

Millions of moderate muslims do not share the same ideals as the radicals

Andy Martin
Guest

[[ Not all Muslims follow the Koran in the same way ]]

Hey Tariq. Are you saying that some are terrorists because they bastardize the Koran? Then step up and say so instead of mealy-mouthing.

Brendan
Guest

No. The issue isn’t as simple as your thought process.
There is a conflict within Islam between moderates and radicals and as long as simpletons paint them all the same way, they are aiding the radicals.

Andy Martin
Guest

Hey shill. They hate us and always have. They hate anything that is not them. How long have you been of the addled ASSumption that there was something we can do to make them like us? I asked you this before and you never responded.

Michael Cottrill
Guest

Brendan there is a conflict alright,but it’s not just within Islam,it’s also within the Abrahamic religions,Judeo -Christian and Islam they all claim to be the true faith and are will to kill for there belife! Religion is a slippery slope thank Man for our Constitution!!

CheetoBuster
Guest

You are a douche that doesn’t have any reading comprehension….where in this article does he state punishing American Muslims?? Where does it state in this article about stripping their constitutional rights?? Moron!!

Brendan
Guest

Sorry kid… you don’t know how to read… Mr West clearly implies that we should not be tolerant because Saudi Arabia isn’t tolerant.
Of course, he doesn’t specifically cite Constitutional rights… because he doesn’t believe in them.

Andy Martin
Guest

[[ Sorry kid… you don’t know how to read… Mr West clearly implies ]]

Perception is subjective ISIS humper. Go cop some ISIS bone punk.

Brendan
Guest

Your ignorant posts aid the enemy coward.
Some of us fought for America and still honor American values so cowards like you can spout ignorance

Andy Martin
Guest

Wipe the AQ and ISIS off your lips Tariq. Because after you finish ‘servicing’ them, they will cut your throat like anyone else. You’re stupid enough to think you can make them like you. Dope.

Brendan
Guest

You’re just an ignorant unAmerican Cowardly chicken hawk, hurling childish insults because the world is more complicated than your little brain can deal with so you lash out

Andy Martin
Guest

It is only ‘complicated’ for AQ/ISIS apologists who are trying to sell Sharia and Wahhabism. Keep worshiping them in the delusional pipe-dream that you or anyone can make them like us.

CheetoBuster
Guest

Where in this article does he say to take away constitutional rights of anyone? You are a liar with an agenda which is to embolden the enemy….that’s it

Brendan
Guest

You still can’t read. That’s a shame.
It doesn’t stop you from spouting ignorance that aids the enemy thou

CheetoBuster
Guest

Let me guess, you went to public school right? 3 times I ask and you still can’t point out where Allen is taking away anyone’s constitutional right. So, like a good little terrorist sympathizing liberal you reply with nonsense and garbage.

Brendan
Guest

You’re still having a difficult time reading. You didn’t understand the words in my first reply? If Mr West wants to discriminate against American Muslims because the Saudi government is discriminating against nonMuslims, that is wanting to take away their Constitutional rights.

CheetoBuster
Guest

You still can’t answer, ha, what a moron! I have come to the conclusion you are seriously mentally challenged. Get some help

Brendan
Guest

Now you’re just being retarded. I answered and explained. You just don’t like being wrong, so since you can’t actually dispute what I wrote, you’re pretending you didn’t read it. Pathetic.

CheetoBuster
Guest

Your perception of what Allen said and what he actually said are two different things moron! In other words, you are putting words in Allen West’s mouth! That’s why you could never answer the simple question. Typical liberal idiot!

Brendan
Guest

Sorry troll boy.
You can’t dispute my point so you disregard it over semantics.

Let me put in terms you can’t avoid.
If you discriminate against American Muslims and prohibit their right to worship… isn’t that the same as taking away their Constitutional rights?

Or are you so in denial of understanding words that you can’t grasp that?

So… yes or no troll boy… is denying Americans the right to worship the same as taking away their Constitutional rights?

CheetoBuster
Guest
Lies, lies, lies that’s all you know. Typical liberal freak. You smear Allen West and then can’t back up your allegations. You put words in his mouth and then try your hardest to avoid questions with total nonsense and lunacy. Keep trying whiner…whine and whine some more! It will never change the fact that Allen West is one great American who know’s what he is talking about and who cares deeply for this country and you on the other hand are nothing more than a typical leftist loon who attempted to smear Allen West and failed miserably! Now go ahead…bask… Read more »
Brendan
Guest

Thank you for proving my point troll boy.
You deliberately avoided my question and again responded only with insults.
In fact, your only contribution to this discussion has been insults.
You have deliberately avoided addressing my point because you know I’m right… but you just don’t like it, so you threw a tantrum.

Kooks like you are helping Obama by making legitimate conservatives look crazy by association.
You do more to help Obama with your crazy ranting than a dozen Obama volunteers.

CheetoBuster
Guest

You are not a conservative…you’re a liberal freak and most conservatives can see right through your bullsh!t

Brendan
Guest

Wow… other than throwing insults and tantrums, do you ever actually contribute to a conversation?

I’m an independent who hasn’t voted Democrat or Republican in years since I feel both parties have gone too far left or right of center.
I have strong conservative values and strong liberal values, depending on the issue.

TruConserv
Guest

What do you think Mr. West meant when he wrote that we shouldn’t tolerate Islam? Was that code for how we should love and respect the right of others to practice their faith? Does that sound like “not tolerating” to you?

CheetoBuster
Guest

Where in this article does it say he said that??

James Johnson
Guest
Every American that stands for “tolerance” of ALL religions needs to understand religious freedom can never supersede fundamental constitutional freedom (life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness). If we allow that we can allow anything–including infiltration of those seeking our decimation–all under the guise of “religious freedom”. Fundamental rights cannot be taken away by any “religion”. The Constitution, therefore, can only offer protection for religions that are accordant with the fundamental rights (life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness) the Constitution was set up to protect, otherwise the Constitution could actually offer protection to a religion that sets itself up… Read more »
JANUS
Guest

The Constitution is was framed by Christians and Diest who understood men could live in peace if tyranny and oppression are eliminated. Islum professes tyranny and oppression as one of its tenants. This tenant is contridictory to our Constitution and therefore incompatible to United States. I agree with you, and I think its good to spell it out.

TruConserv
Guest
The KKK self-identifies as a Christian organization. It’s principles are incompatible with the Constitution. Should we outlaw Christianity? Sure, the vast majority of American Christians are peaceful, but the peaceful majority is irrelevant. (google it, if you don’t believe me.) ISIS is to Islam what the KKK is to Christianity. Just because a group self-identifies as being representative of a faith doesn’t mean the faith is represented by the splinter group. While I appreciate your effort to give a cogent response, you need to consider two aspects of rhetoric (persuasive writing) for your next response: (1) Universality and (2) pitfalls… Read more »
L.Shalimar Drakeford
Guest

ZZZZZZZZZZZ

JANUS
Guest

The KKK doesn’t identify as Christian organization that’s why it burns crosses…ISIS burns crossess too along with churches and the KKK did the same thing in Birmingham aka Bombingham in the 1950’s. Liberals love to say the KKK are Christian and in the same breathe say Islam (which they call the religion of peace) and Christianity are the same religion. Liberals lie and contradict themselves to suit their agenda.

TruConserv
Guest

The KKK most assuredly does self-identify as Christian. Claiming otherwise demonstrates a complete failing on your part.

http://www.christianpost.com/news/kkk-leader-were-a-christian-organization-claims-the-klan-is-not-a-hate-group-116614/

L.Shalimar Drakeford
Guest

And you know what, about the klan?

JANUS
Guest

Burning the cross, makes you no more of christian than burning the koran makes you a muslim. I can say I’m dinosaur and it doesn’t make me a dinosaur. My actions speaks louder than my words. They’re lying in the christianpost just like the religion of peace is lying when they say “we all serve the same god”…If so why do ISIS want to blow people up.

TruConserv
Guest

Exactly.

ISIS is to Islam what the KKK is to Christianity.

ISIS says it is Islamic, but 93-percent of the Islamic World disagrees. That’s why it is the Muslims who are fighting them with the blood, the limbs and their lives.

You’re so close to understanding … let go of your fear and hate and you’ll finally get it.

ISIS is not Islamic.

JANUS
Guest

93% is such a large number, where is that from? Where’s the vocal 93% in the western world? Who’s funding ISIS and helping to recruit? Where are the recruits coming from? My answer is from the “93%”. Hamas,Hezballah, Al Qaida, ISIS and all the sorts gets funding and support from the greater islamic community. Every muslims pays tithes to their mosque, the mosque pays a portion to their district , the district remits money to the regional leaders, and regional remits money to their Grand Mufti, which has ties to many aforementioned organizations.

TruConserv
Guest

7-percent is still 120 million, radical islam is self-funded. If it were as you described, it would be the best funded military in the World, and it’s not.

the seven percent is from a Gallop Poll.

James Johnson
Guest
“The KKK self-identifies as a Christian organization. It’s principles are incompatible with the Constitution. Should we outlaw Christianity?”>>>This retort is a straw man argument, erected either out of ignorance, or from intellectual dishonesty. This response would only be relevant and applicable if my argument was the following: P1: All religions protected by the Constitution are religions whose CLAIMANT’S ACTIONS are compatible with the Constitution; more specifically, CLAIMANTS that respect life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness–these are fundamental rights that cannot be taken away by any person no matter what religion they claim. P2: If any so called “religious GROUP”… Read more »
TruConserv
Guest
You offer a distinction without a difference, unless you’re making the nonsensical argument that Muslims should have no protection under the Constitution w/r/t whether a fraction of its adherents have engaged in terrorism. No way would you make that argument — that would be ridiculous and completely contrary to the American experience. That would be like arguing that Left Wing Communists and Right Wing Fascists wouldn’t be protected under the Constitution, their ideology being incompatible with the Constitution. You do realize the folly in that argument, yes? I’m sorry if I gave you more credit than you deserved. Besides, what… Read more »
L.Shalimar Drakeford
Guest

If you are in the USA, would you please take your burka wearing baby machine and leave? Drop your EBT card by the door on the way out.

L.Shalimar Drakeford
Guest

I’m sure the pig fuckers in CARE pays you well to spread islamic propaganda. You are on the side of evil, I stand with my own kind. Americans. BUT ENOUGH OF THAT!! In the interest of conversation, maybe you could help me with a problem. I am buying a piglet to fatten up. Should I name it allah, or should I name it after the child molester muhammad? Thank you.

JANUS
Guest

All the major terrorist acts that have occurred on U.S. soil is because of Islam. Homeland security was installed because of Islam. Yet the religion that wants to take away our freedom and safety, also wants to be protected by the Constitution. I say Nay!

TruConserv
Guest

Wrong.

(1) Radical Islam is not true Islam just as the KKK style of Christianity is not true Christianity.

(2) The overwhelming majority of terrorist acts on US soil have been by Christian Terrorists. The KKK killed more than 4000 Americans on American soil using lynching alone – that’s not counting bombing, shootings and general mayhem. Even since 9/11, non-jihadist terrorist attacks outnumber jihadist terrorist attacks.

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/05/muslims-only-carried-out-2-5-percent-of-terrorist-attacks-on-u-s-soil-between-1970-and-2012.html

L.Shalimar Drakeford
Guest

Muzzie lies.

JANUS
Guest

The article comes from the FBI as the source…interesting the FBI deny Nidal Hassan was radical, the FBI deny islam is a source of terrorism, the FBI deny Muslim Brotherhood is in U.S., the FBI deny Hamas is in U.S. the FBI deny a lot of things, it’s peculiar. Interesting they keep arresting so called non threats. http://thf_media.s3.amazonaws.com/2012/pdf/bg2682.pdf

TruConserv
Guest
Yes, whenever the facts differ from what you have predetermined to be true, then it must be a conspiracy. /sarcasm The Heritage report fails to list the non-Jihadist attacks that were foiled, so it’s worthless as a means of comparing the Jihadist threat against the non-Jihadist threat. We all agree that Jihadist are a real threat, we are debating how big that threat is to the US and what that means to our approach to Islam within the United States. Since 9.11.2001 there have been 50 failed terror attacks, that’s less than 4 a year. If Islam is evil and… Read more »
L.Shalimar Drakeford
Guest

Tell that lie to that dead white student that the fag muzzie shot recently. WHY ARE YOU HERE!!!!

JANUS
Guest
The 50 failed attacks are all islamic hiding among islamic apologists and practitioners. I don’t believe there’s 8 million muslims in the US, in fact the Census says there’s .08% in a nation of 320million which is 2.5 million people. Islam 101 says 8 million muslims. Who to believe, the govt census or apologists? The LGBT community says 20% of the pop. is LGBT. Is that believable too, if so combining CAIR and LGBT’s number then there’s 1.6 million LGBT muslims. Apologist love to inflate their numbers to make them seem valid. For example Melonoma occurs within Sarcoma, they are… Read more »
TruConserv
Guest

HAH – again you try to conform facts to your beliefs when it should be the othe way around. The majority of those attack plots were from outside the US.

http://www.muslimpopulation.com/America/ says 6.8 million in 2013, but let’s use your numbers.

Are the 2.5 million just waiting for the call to kill you in your sleep?

JANUS
Guest

Left wingnut websites like this could say anything and apologists will quote them as if its Bill Clinton(whom happens to be a known liar).

TruConserv
Guest

I used your numbers. Are there 2.5 million American Muslims waiting to kill you in your sleep?

James Johnson
Guest
Btw, my argument is not that MUSLIMS should have no protection; my argument is that ISLAM should have no protection. Muslims are free to believe what they want, but their “religious freedom” ends the moment their “religion” encroaches on my life, liberty, and my pursuit of happiness. We have too many bleeding heart libs cow-towing to appease Muslims. “Oh but their religion says…” We have politicians talking about limiting free speech against Islam or Muhammad. If your religion demands retaliation toward any verbal or written (cartoon?) criticism, then your “religion” probably is not compatible with The Constitution.
TruConserv
Guest
Drivel. You can’t deny the existence of a faith without interfering with the rights of its followers. Your right to tell people what they can or can not believe ends at the Constitution. You hate the document upon which this nation was founded, then you leave, not the Muslims. If Islam or the Muslims interfere with your rights, there are remedies for that. We prosecute based on ACTS, but you said you wanted to outlaw a religion based on its IDEOLOGY. PICK YOUR STRATEGY! The reason you can’t articulate what test to apply when determining when a religion can be… Read more »
James Johnson
Guest
Drivel. I did articulate what test to apply when determining when a religion can be established as legitimate. See P1 on my original argument. “Name the politician who wants to limit free speech against Mohammed and tell the number of the bill that he or she introduced”: Senator Ed Markey (D-MA) introduced “The Hate Crime Reporting Act of 2014″ (S.2219) Evidence of potential criminalization of anti-Islam rhetoric: There is very dangerous legislation making its way through both the House of Representatives and Senate that will finish the United States. The sharia bill calls for Islamic blasphemy laws — the criminalization… Read more »
TruConserv
Guest
You seemingly don’t know very much about Res. 16/18 (2011) either. The 2011 version is not what previous administrations voted down. It reflected a compromise and a backing away from the religious defamation premise of the previous iterations. Indeed, groups like “Freedom House,” who had fought the OIC strongly on its 1990-2010 proposals (which the Obama Administration joined in voting down) for its 2011 16/18 Resolution. See: http://www.freedomhouse.org/article/oic-rebuke-defamation-religions-welcomed#.VB9jdvlQLzY You have to get outside the bubble! It is simply embarrassing that you would claim that Obama suddenly approved a resolution he and other presidents had voted against in 2011 without revealing… Read more »
TruConserv
Guest
Uhm, have you read S.2219? It doesn’t even mention anything approaching what you claim. Let me guess, you copied it from some obscure wingnut blog and didn’t bother to actually look it up. Don’t answer to me, but to yourself, is that really how an informed American acts? The full-text is available here: https://beta.congress.gov/113/bills/s2219/BILLS-113s2219is.pdf Here’s the CRS Summary “Hate Crime Reporting Act of 2014 – Directs the National Telecommunications and Information Administration (NTIA) to update a report for Congress concerning the role of telecommunications in the commission of hate crimes. “Requires such report to include: (1) an analysis of the… Read more »
James Johnson
Guest
“8 million Muslims leading lives [that are compatible with The Constitution]”>>> Here are some disturbing facts about what is taught in mosques here in America: A 2011 study has demonstrated that 80% of mosques right in this country are teaching jihad warfare and Islamic supremacism. Researchers Mordechai Kedar and David Yerushalmi reported in the Summer 2011 issue of Middle East Quarterly about a new survey that found that “51% of mosques had texts that either advocated the use of violence in the pursuit of a Sharia-based political order or advocated violent jihad as a duty that should be of paramount… Read more »
TruConserv
Guest
Okay, now try doing that not using discredited, wingnut resources. Seriously, you cite Middle East Journal, the journal that has never met a Muslim, an Islamic group or an Islamic cause it liked? Religion of Peace.com? Come on. No, you jumped to a conclusion. Your premises were not logically connected to the conclusion. Now, back to the task you don’t want to address. What is the standard by which you want to establish what is a real religion and what is not? (Oh, snap, did I use the word “establish” and “religion” in the same sentence, better go check that… Read more »
JANUS
Guest

TruConserv, you can deny what James is saying but look at the issues in Nigeria, Boko Haram. There is no peace in countries predominantly Muslim accept the sword of the Allah. Take a look at Oman and Saudi Arabia’s flags, does the sword stand for peace?

TruConserv
Guest

You can’t take one data point and then apply it to all the world’s Islamic country.

There are 49 Muslim countries. I’ve worked in two of them. Sure – radicalized Muslims are a problem, a very real problem, but many people are using that problem as an excuse to launch a hate-filled, BS-laden attack on the religious freedom of others.

Yes, there are people out there who want a religious war — and some of them are right here on this board.

JANUS
Guest

The one data point you fail to name is Saudi Arabia, which is the richest arab country, practices Sharia law, preaches jihad, 17 of the 19 high jackers were Saudis and the source of Wahhabism. The Saudi’s inspired Osama and funded so many other organizations around the world yet…they’re considered friendly to the U.S. by the Prez and media.

TruConserv
Guest

If 19 former-military Americans go down to Central America and try to bring down a country, should that country start killing all Americans? Go to War with America? Seize all US assets it can reach?

JANUS
Guest

Is this an attempt to avoid answering…does Saudi Arabia fit the description. Conditional, rhetorical statement don’t excuse the truth. It just buys time and avoids true discussion….For Example; If Jennifer Anniston has a baby what will she name her?

TruConserv
Guest

It was an effort at parallel construction to show you the folly of your argument.

JANUS
Guest

Christians are the most persecuted group in the world…this is because people don’t want to hear the truth.

Pam
Guest
Christians have misunderstood the message in the Bible. Jesus did not tolerate the vendors at the Temple, instead he took action to defend it and his Father. That is exactly what attitude that Christians should take against Islam. This idea that we should just love them till they convert is insane and suicidal. Instead take up arms and defend your beliefs and justice in the world. Render unto Cesar what is his, but we are Gods children. Guardians of justice and protectors of the world. I know I will get flack for this, but this is what we should stand… Read more »
johnnywood
Guest

It would help if Christians actually and faithfully practiced their Christianity in the face of all the corruption and crime being committed in this world and this nation.

CheetoBuster
Guest

“Religion of peace, my arse. Just a bunch of 7th century savages with 21st century funding, resources, and technology.”

Exactly!!

Earl Lee
Guest

Allen (rob these loons blind) west…I’m curious to know WHAT exactly is the president suppose to do about another country’s business? You just post crap like this so these loons will continue to donate to your fraudulent GUARDIAN FUND! Out of over 4 million collected only $35,000 has been donated to candidates while over 3 million spent on FUNDRAISING?? How do you spend over 3 million for fundraising to only give out 35k? FRAUDULENT!!

johnnywood
Guest

Go play somewhere else you troll.

Earl Lee
Guest

Nope…too much fun exposing this FRAUD!!

Betty Mullins
Guest

I AM’ SO DISAPPOINTED IN OUR COUNTRY EVERYTHING IS CHANGING SO FAST ] AND I AM’ SORRY IT IS NOT FOR THE BEST ] NO ONE IS DOING A THING ABOUT OUR COUNTRY EVERYONE SEEMS’ TO NOT CARE HOW THE COUNTRY GOES’ ANY MORE WE OUR JUST GIVING OUR FREEDOM AWAY ] FOR PEOPLE TO BE SILENT IS NOT HELPING OUR NATION IN THIS TIME .] GOD GAVE US THIS COUNTRY AND WE OUR GIVING TO THE ENEMY ] WAKE UP ]

johnnywood
Guest

Elections have consequences.

TruConserv
Guest

Hi Betty, I hear that comment a lot these days, that things are changing and we’re losing freedoms.

When I ask my friends who feel this way, they can never point out how we’ve changed nor what freedoms they have lost.

Can you share with me what freedom you have lost?

Mark Page Castillo
Guest

Are you kidding me ?

TruConserv
Guest

No, but I think you are kidding yourself. I’m a real conservative. I like smaller gov’t, smart spending, cautious change, traditional values and intelligent regulations and laws. I love the Constitution.

I do not feel as though I have lost any freedom in the past six years. None. If you can’t tell me what I have missed — and I mean specifically — then I have to conclude I’m right.

If I’m wrong, then give me a clear list of enumerated rights that I have lost.

L.Shalimar Drakeford
Guest

Did you just get off the banana boat? What a stupid question.

Patricia White
Guest
Freedom of morality. Freedom of Godly standards. Our laws are immoral with a leader that embraces them and our nation is divided. Our freedoms have shifted to the immoral which gives an appearance of liberty and the pursuit of happiness. One nation “under God” doesn’t elevate man and devalue God! They can’t point out how we’ve changed nor what freedoms they have lost because it’s more of a mood or a darkness than something concrete. However it is concrete, a nation is only as moral as it’s society. Our society is embracing a freedom that is ultimately destructive. Our inalienable… Read more »
TruConserv
Guest

Who has made it so you can’t be moral. Who says you can’t have Godly standards?

What law from the past six years are immoral? Why are they immoral?

What Constitutional Right has been abridged? Please cite the actual Constitution.

johnnywood
Guest

Try opening and operating a small business in America then you may see the loss of freedom.

TruConserv
Guest

I already have one … but tell me, what freedom did you lose, because I haven’t lost any. I’m being sincere. I hear this all the time, but I haven’t seen nor experienced any loss of freedom.

Mark Page Castillo
Guest

ANOTHER IDIOT ON THE JOB.

TruConserv
Guest

Thanks for clocking in, no need to shout when announcing your presence.

L.Shalimar Drakeford
Guest

CARE apologist at work.

TruConserv
Guest

Well, that post of yours certainly does confirm that an Idiot is on the job …

johnnywood
Guest

Maybe you just have not noticed the loss but try being a kid and opening a lemon-aide stand in your front yard.

Aristeo Macayan
Guest

Its Time and reasonable to Demolish muslim mosque in non Muslim Country….

Why they dont allow other religion in thier land we must do the same….

johnnywood
Guest

It is called the U.S. Bill of Rights, First Amendment.

grin-n-barrett
Guest

At the risk of sounding stupid….what is a “kafir”? Infidel I understand. The other,no.

empty pockets
Guest

According to dictionary.com it’s another word for infidel. With two “f’s”, in South Africa it was a disparaging term for Blacks. Like you, I had not heard it used in relation to the religion of pieces or by Islamofascists.

(Ignorance is only shameful when it’s willful. No one knows everything.)

grin-n-barrett
Guest

Thank you! Not knowing was irritating. Should have thought to look it up though. Having a bad brain day!

johnnywood
Guest

Any American who thinks Saudi Arabia is our ally must have been living under a rock for the past forty years. Does anyone remember the oil embargo of 1973?

Jack Enright
Guest
Islam is not a religion but a political ideology. Terror can not be the basis for a religion. The Quran is based on Terror. Muhammad was a Terrorist. Imams of Islam promote Terror to spread their dominion. Saudi Arabia is a land of Terror for anyone who is an Infidel, not of Islam. Islam should not be protected under the US Constitution. It is not a religion, anymore than the KKK or the Inquisition. If you disagree feel free to catch the next flight to Arabia. You might just be lucky and catch a beheading or a stoning. Please let… Read more »
TruConserv
Guest

What is you definition of a religion?

How many years did you spend learning the Qu’ran?

How many Muslims who think their religion is peaceful did you discuss your analysis with?

What makes you so sure you’re so right about someone else’s religion that you get to tell them they are all terrorists?

The battle isn’t with Islam, it’s with Radicalized Muslims.

ISIS is to Islam what the KKK is to Christianity.

L.Shalimar Drakeford
Guest

Muzzie lies