Our government is populated by perverts

In 1848, French economist and statesman, Frederic Bastiat wrote, “The state is the great fictitious entity by which everyone seeks to live at the expense of everyone else.”

I would also add that the state has a habit – particularly lately — of perverting the meaning of words and the word of law to suit its own aims.

I served 22 years in the United States Army and come from a family of service to this nation, as my dad served in the Army in World War II, my older brother in Vietnam as a Marine, and now my nephew as the second Army officer and the fourth in the lineage of West combat veterans. To me, that’s the definition of patriotism, but not so in the case of our progressive socialist President Obama.

As they do so often, liberal progressives work hard to redefine language, now to include the meaning of patriotism. The new poll-tested term from the Democrats is “economic patriotism.” What does that mean? It’s patriotic to pay very high taxes.

As reported by CNBC, “Washington is as cynical a place as you will find on earth but President Barack Obama’s latest attack on corporate “deserters” in a speech in Los Angeles and an interview with CNBC’s Steve Liesman sets a new bar.”

“Obama brought the full weight of the Oval Office to the issue of U.S. companies acquiring sizable stakes in foreign firms in order to reduce their U.S. tax burden, saying doing so is “neither fair nor is it something that’s going to be good for the country over the long-term.” Obama added, “If you are doing business here, if you are basically an American company but you are simply changing your mailing address in order to avoid paying taxes then you are really not doing right by the country and the American people.”

However, is Obama’s term “economic patriotism,” only a tool for his political ideological advancement, and really more like economic tyranny? Could it be that Obama in his purely socialist sense is violating the most basic principle of The Law as first outlined by Frederic Bastiat? Does Obama fail to realize that government exists not to punish entrepreneurial advancement but to enable it, and in so doing prevent government itself from violating the fundamental premise of The Law?

I’d like to offer a simple tutorial to President Obama — and to you as well – regarding this key premise about which early 19th century French economist and philosopher, Frederic Bastiat, wrote in his simple essay, The Law.

This brief but prescient writing truly affirmed the relationship of law to the individual. Bastiat advanced the idea that the purpose of law is the defense of life, liberty, and property — the seminal concept defined by classical liberal theorist, John Locke, and the fundamental premise of our unalienable rights, as Jefferson articulated in the Declaration of Independence. The law, Bastiat says is, “the collective organization of the individual right of lawful defense.”

But just so my collectivist socialist friends don’t get all excited, this is how Bastiat defined the collective organization: “The principle of collective right — its reasoning for existence, its lawfulness — is based on individual right.”

So the purpose of the law — this collective organization — is the protection of individual rights. Jefferson referred to the existence of government as based on the “consent of the governed.” However, what is it that perverts The Law’s simple purpose? It is what Bastiat referred to as “lawful plunder” — some have called it legal plunder – when the class of people who indeed make the law (legislation), or even those sworn to uphold the law (executive) decide in turn to plunder.

As Bastiat said, “When law and morality contradict each other, the citizen has the cruel alternative of either losing his moral sense or losing his respect for the law.”

We have reached the point in America where our president confuses the law with his interpretation of morality – and in so doing, demonstrates his disrespect for the rule of law.

And so as President Obama — and even Senator Elizabeth Warren — boldly claim, “you didn’t build that” — Bastiat had already predicted their assertions: “As long as it is admitted that the law may be diverted from its true purpose — that it may violate property instead of protecting it — then everyone will want to participate in making the law, either to protect himself against plunder or to use it for plunder.”

Now, I have to admit this is some really heavy thinking and most of our progressive socialist trolls who are still at Dr. Seuss level ain’t gonna get it. But this is again part of Obama’s fundamental transformation and remaking of America.

So what does Bastiat believe is the underlying reason for the perversion of The Law? He simply states, “The law has been perverted by the influence of two entirely different causes: stupid greed and false philanthropy” — in other words, the lie perpetrated by liberal socialists that they actually care as the mask for their insidious wealth redistributive schemes.

And therein is the lie and perversion promulgated by Obama and his ilk, as they manipulate the lexicon to advance their perversion of our law solely to enable a “lawful plunder” of our free market economy. This “economic patriotism” is nothing more than a pathetic attempt to forge ahead with more legal plunder, and the violation of the law to protect one of the basic individual rights, property. It is all for his own “stupid greed” and the lie of his false philanthropy.

Obama’s policies have nothing to do with a better America or increased economic opportunities and prosperity; it is all about the destruction of the social contract in order to bring about his law.

I know this has been heavy for a Monday, but folks, time is running out, and come November we don’t need a U.S. Senate, or members of the U.S. House, who believe and support the perversion of The Law.

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Garner Goingson
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Not too heavy. This should be required reading for every high school government class. Our homeschool curriculum has Bestiat’s The Law scheduled for 10th grade. http://www.amblesideonline.org/10bks.shtml

Sams_1
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ok then , fight ACTIVELY the “White Privilege” movement that is in our schools and in bed with the Muslim Brotherhood and is paid to hypnotize our youth with lies Look into it and do something parents!!!!!

The Cobra Kings
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Mr. West please run for président. You represent the majority and your strength and political will Is needed now.

John Kerry
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Mr. West would likely make an excellent President. The problem is he is black and we can expect significant blowback, in this regard, from the disaster that is the first black President, Barry Soetoro, aka Obama.

If Mr. West were the FIRST black President I’d be all for electing him. Same issue associates itself with Ben Carson, whom I believe would also make an excellent President.

Mr. West for Vice-President? What say you all ?

NevertoLate
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I disagree that Mr Soetoro is our first black president…. I dont consider him as such. I do believe he began his career as a puppet, a talking suit, who came to believe in the PR of who he was advertised to be, I dont believe he loves or respects this country and its people therefore it has been more than easy for him to fulfill his duty of escalating the “transformation of America”. I believe both he and Hilary are in Soro’s pocket. As long as there are perverted career politicians, on both sides, we will continue to see… Read more »
Sams_1
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I am ready for a real Black president. I think it would be a salve-and would only say that to the qualified and endowed by our creator!!!!
Col. you are in my prayers for your protection and so is your family and your huge bodyguard I saw at CPAC second to last Man was he great-no playing around , no grins, no pushover…….
You have us behind and to the side of you and ..I mean it.
If you decide, WE MUST DO OUR PART.

Peacelanese
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Holycrap this is fabulous! Thank you.

coon
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a lawless bunch of selfish leaders will lead to a lawless population. = revolt from the oppression. in this nation we have willing obeyed —- we are right now watching Washington D.C. tear down the rule of law out of greed an selfishness. If we as a nation do not turn to God right now and get help we are indeed doomed as a nation.

William Torpey
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Most of America’s largest corporation do not want to nove their headquarters, its just that they cannot survive with a tax of 35% or more.

homerbjenkins
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William, It is not just a 35% tax, but it is also the EPA and every other czarist department in the government putting restrictions and regulations on them that cause them to move to other countries. Would you do business in a country where it will cost you billions a year to retrofit your plant to keep up with current and ever changing pollution regulations or would you go to a country where their standards are more relaxed or the country doesn’t care if you pollute?

coniljw
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GOD help us save our nation. EVERy single person needs to vote conservative/repub in Nov 2014. OUR LIVES depend on it. THIS IS LIFE OR DEATH>

B.a. Goodwin
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This government that we have now, scares me so badly. If things do not change soon, I fear where the God-fearing middle class people will be. I fully support you Allen West for your honesty. The American people need you in the White HOuse!

Jeffrey Grimes
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Yet here we sit. No one listens while we sit behind our keyboards. We have the tools, the technology… but where is the “will of the American people”?

Sams_1
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I sit and fax my reps. I call . I visit and I meet. We can and must organize.

Linda Dattilo
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Yes, vote conservative and HOLD the politicians Accountable from the beginning!

Sams_1
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Linda it is he who counts the votes, so join TRUE THE VOTE
http://WWW.JUDICIAL WATCH.ORG. DOWNLOAD THE FREE Election integrity docs. We are called to stand sentinel.

We have enemies at the gates and ant the front

aposematic
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Not too heavy at all. Excellent piece that most should be able to understand: “”stupid greed” and the lie of his false philanthropy.” This is truth beyond doubt…thanks!

StuCozza
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The left calls it, “paying it forward.”

Dana Davis
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This is an administration that has exchanged the word plebeian for proletariat, the word unity for solidarity, the word executive for czar; certainly nationalism in the form of patriotism is not to be tolerated.

Thomas Cope
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Great article Sir. Wish you had written this earlier as I read The Law for my Political Philosophy class with Liberty University. Once again you accurately expose the Usurper in Chief and his ulterior motives. Please run for public office again. We need you in DC.

davidnohe
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They not only move because of the taxes, but out of fear of the next step in every socialist agenda…nationalization. They’re only a thin line away from an executive order that actually “captures” a company or another sector of our economy (energy next with right after they finish capturing health care completely). He’s already issued an executive order that “in the time of crisis” all resources become his to distribute.

Glen Saunders
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Great article befitting our current Socialist -In-Chief. Rest assured sir, when the rubber hits the road and the gunsmoke clears, our nation will be standing tall.

Chuck Atkinson
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My dog is smarter then our President!

Joseph Stavitsky
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Did your dog graduate with honors from Harvard Law?

Sams_1
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No he is more honest just and vituous

Conservative_Utopia
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While cronyism expands, it erodes Americans’ ability and opportunity to give freely based on the goodwill in our hearts.

Joseph Stavitsky
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Goodwill in your hearts? Is that what motivated you guys to scream at small children?

Clay Austin
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Joseph.. some of them like theirs sauteed with a nice Chianti to wash them down with!

Biill
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Corporate Taxes is a misnomer in itself because truthfully no corporation actually pays taxes, they give the government fees to conduct business. Those fees are in turn added to the ‘cost of doing business’ and passed on to the consumer. The consumer pays all the Corporate Taxes in the higher price of products and services.

Corporate Taxes are a sneaky way to raise Everyone’s taxes without most even being aware of it.

antilib
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Strange how these ‘Educated” people can’t seem to figure that out. “Soak those fat-cat corporations”. Those who buy the products pay the taxes. Too many stupid people because of liberal indoctrination rather than education.

Richard
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My family’s military lineage dates back to the Revolutionary War. Liberals like Obozo believe “Patriot” is a punch line in a joke. They have zero understanding of what Love Of Country is about!

Clay Austin
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Good thing only conservatives get to label themselves “patriots” and fight and die for this country! Damn liberals!

Troy S
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God Bless you and your family sir.

Mary-Catherine Grage
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Did Ocrapo forget… He invests in U.S. companies that do EXACTLY what he said Should NOT be done!?!?!

Damn hypocrite!
Do as I say… Not as I do!
Zombies… Wake up and help with Ocrapo’s Impeachment!

Joseph Stavitsky
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Sources re the Obamas investments?

But, of course, he should invest in American companies that do not do this, like for example….

*crickets*

djmc993150
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So do most of his high monetary donors like Soros.

Nelson Coleman
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An Executive Order carries no weight if no one abides by it, much like the President who chooses not to abide by the laws on the books as it’s his sworn duty.

djmc993150
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Ahh, but now with his executive agencies and czars like the EPA and IRS, he can seize property and levy fines without a second of due process.

Julia Tillman
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Yes, very heavy any day of the week, but well said. Obama and his gang know exactly what they are doing and are banking on the dumbing down of the American citizens to let their twisted plans go unchallenged. Thank you Mr. West.

Jerone A. Bowers
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I will say it again, if we were to take all the money in the world plus all assets and divide them equally to everyone, within ten years or less we would be right back to have and have not.

Clearly money or asset accumulation is not the problem. The problem is learning how to accumulate assets and manage money

Annie
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More like 6 months.

djmc993150
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But wait a minute… President O, isnt it your position that the US is stealing wealth and explointing third world countries? Now when companies move to those countries and pay taxes – ie actually benefit the countries they are accused of exploiting by not only paying wages and creating wealth, you are upset that they arent in the US paying taxes (at one of the highest rates in the world) to fund policies they disagree with and you have lost in Supreme Court battles and continue to battle in the courts?

Sams_1
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i READ 15 YEARS AGO THAT THE OTHER AMERICAS HAVE MORE RICH NATURAL RESOURCES THAN NORTH AMERICA..hmmmmmmm

Gee who plans to get those? Like those caves and mountains in Afghanistan so replete with ores and such

sheikyermami
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The Obamessiah has no moral compass, he knows no law and respects nothing we hold dear. Our patriotic duty at this point is to get rid of him so he cannot cause any more damage.

Clay Austin
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You should “pray” to Allah for his swift impeachment and removal from office.. Apparently your GOD.. isn’t listening!

Sams_1
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ok so what are YOU doing? or are you just a foil or volunteering others…..

Philanthropussy
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ECON PATROITISM!!!!!! Isn’t that when big American businesses take small American jobs, factories and equipment to other countries in order to “save money”.
In turn, helping China and India econ to the point they are almost close in catching up. American people have their own brand of econ patriotism, since they shop with their pockets. BUT demand flags made in the US.
I love the way Reps love talking about why the dems are hurting small businesses with Obamacare and a minimum wage, but take every opportunity to screw with them.

WhatsammatteU
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If it wasn’t for Dems(liberals)Our company’s would not have to take their jobs overseas.Liberal policy making has driven up the cost of living and doing business in this country,for example,a person who makes 30 dollars an hour just to stand in one place and put the same part on over and over again. Unions and the liberal lawmakers they spend millions to get elected are strangling the small and large businesses in this country,driving up the cost’s of living in and doing business in the USA.But the greedy union workers and the Union bosses don’t see past what they believe… Read more »
Philanthropussy
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Of course thats all you reps think unions do. It’s always to worst case. They do a lot more than corruption, darling . Where do you if a worker has problems with their boss, safety concerns, harassment issues, pay issues. Why negotiates contracts.? Who paids for law suits against big conpanies? Unions. Btw, federal workers are unionized .
Guess what business doesn’t always have their employees ees best interest in mind.

WhatsammatteU
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I have been forced to belong to 2 of the biggest unions in the country.TWU and IBEW,so don’t try telling me WHAT UNIONS do,I’ve been there done that,and they never did squat for me except take my money and give me a hat.Thank GOD our state has since become a right to work state and I won’t have to put up with them in my pocket anymore or telling me who to vote for.The right to vote in this country is almost a sacred trust and I will not stand for or listen to any group that TELL’S me how… Read more »
Joseph Stavitsky
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Unions in America are another perfect example of conservative victim-blaming

1) Spend decades destroying unions

2) Blaime unions for being impotent

3) Profit

Philanthropussy
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Obviously your are with big business.

Scott Lanway
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Folks, you two and I are on the same side. Joseph was trying for a sarcastic approach, but he’s right on. It was Reagan (a former union president!) who declared open war on public-sector unions and started wrecking the American middle class.

Philanthropussy
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sorry, it’s hard for me to detect sarcastic remarks on the net.

Tom Harmon
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Its all about freedom. Whether large, or small business, everyone should have an even playing field. All businesses should have the minimum regulation, fair taxation, and the government staying out of the way, that is the “Consitutional” position!

Gary Bovan
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So it’s ok to bleed the tax payer dry with your uncontrolled spending but the minute anyone wants to keep more of there money , you call it un patriotic
Give me a break !

Clay Austin
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When that money.. could be creating jobs.. YES!

Sams_1
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You get no break, only a change to get a little even

homerbjenkins
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It is dispicable to me for the illustrious Traitor in chief to even form the word Patriotism in his foolish and deceptive mouth. For him, the term patriotism means to slobber on his shoes and agree with everything he says, no matter how preposterous it sounds.
I am sick of his and all liberal dribble and am anxiously awaiting the day they are put on trial for their destruction of this nation. Along with them, I am also looking to the day that the traitorous rino republicans will inhabit the same jail cell with them.

Joseph Stavitsky
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You must have him confused with Bush 2, thats basically how we got into Iraq

Brett Hall
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I think a perfect word to describe these people comes from Ayn Rand’s “Atlas Shrugged”: “Looters”

Joseph Stavitsky
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Ayn Rand? You mean the one who went on Social Security after she got old and sick?

Ron Terry
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Other words our fearless leader is accusing big business of the same high and keep tactics that himself and a lot of the senators and congessmen are doing?

Joseph Stavitsky
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Well, the numbers are different by a few orders of magnitude, but thanks for playing!

William Healy
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I would like to see the tax percentages the Dems pay?

Joseph Stavitsky
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Yes, I bet you would, you precious snowflake you

docbenton
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Is this all you do is troll people you disagree with? Must be a libtard!

Joseph Stavitsky
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You don’t see a difference between demanding corporate tax records and personal tax records, thats your problem buddy

docbenton
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You’re a troll and probably paid. Otherwise you’re just plain ignorant. Even the Democrats are running from Oblaspheme now. Will you ever wake up or are the freebies that everyone else pays for too good?

Jason Neal
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You know colonel, I was in Baghdad back in 04-05. I was willing to advance my nations interests abroad with my finger on a trigger. But it would have been a far better use of my time if I’d stayed home to fight the Americans who want to disassemble my country.

Joseph Stavitsky
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If you took an early retirement to avoid dishonorable discharge, we get to call you “colonel”

Jason Neal
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I’m sorry, were you making a statement or asking a question? The lack of punctuation threw me off. Also, are you referring to me as colonel? Because I was never a colonel.

Joseph Stavitsky
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I was referring to West

Clay Austin
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Wha chu talk’n bout Joe? You bet not be talk’n bout Allen West! He’s what dey call “pres sa den chall” materaal!

Joseph Stavitsky
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I know what material West is made of, but I cant discuss it in a family forum

Joseph Stavitsky
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Waaah nobody buys our story that stealing from your fellow citizens is patriotic anymore, waaaah

Senators are throwing their own children under the bus for this nonsense, and you people think anybody still thinks not paying taxes is patriotic?

http://www.nationaljournal.com/politics/senator-manchin-what-my-daughter-did-should-be-illegal-20140723

You clowns are the ones who should get deported, at least the Latino migrants _want_ to pay taxes.

lonetrader
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You are full of S*&t Joseph. The illegal aliens go on welfare, public housing, medical care, free food, free school and never put a dime into the system.

Brent Butterfield
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Actually, many illegal immigrants use stollen or false social security numbers to get jobs. Since these numbers don’t actually belong to them,they never file tax returns against them and the fed keeps all the funds. Many of these SSNs belong to dead Americans but the fed does nothing but accept continued concontributions from the departed…

Joseph Stavitsky
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Any evidence?

Rick Williams
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My neighbors…. -_- If you need several examples.

Joseph Stavitsky
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Yes, Some Guy On the Internet says some neighbors of his were receiving benefits while undocumented, therefore undocumented migrants are a net drain on our economy. Perfect example of conservative logic.

lonetrader
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Why yes ere is a ton of it. Los Angeles County spends millions every month on medical care. Why don’t you call the LA County board of supervisors and ask. Get your eyes opened.

Joseph Stavitsky
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Proof that those are all, or mostly, illegal immigrants?

Jbaker
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Hey idiot why don’t you try google. You a typical liberal who can’t stay focused. Strawmen everywhere and it is up to everyone else to prove it to YOU! You are intellectually lazy beyond reason. But then again being infected with liberalism and it’s accompanying mental disorder explains it all.

Joseph Stavitsky
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debating 101, if you make an assertion you must provide evidence

lonetrader
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Joseph. You have prove to be too stupid to talk to. Lie most liberals, you have a diseased mind. If I showed you the proof you would say it is a lie.

Joseph Stavitsky
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Perfect reason not to show it. Thanks for playing!

Jbaker
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Look it for yourself you lazy troll.

Joseph Stavitsky
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Let’s learn To Debate with Dick and Jane

Lesson 1, burden of proof. He who makes claims must provide evidence in proportion to the breadth of the claim.

SisterMary
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Oh yes, let’s! I’ll be Jane, because it’s clear that you are dick.

Joseph Stavitsky
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Tsk Tsk such language from a woman of the cloth!

virtualcynic
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Excellent points and right on the mark!

William Haburne
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Judge Learned Hand

“Any one may so arrange his affairs that his taxes shall be as low as
possible; he is not bound to choose that pattern which will best pay the
Treasury; there is not even a patriotic duty to increase one’s taxes.”

Helvering v. Gregory, 69 F.2d 809, 810-11 (2d Cir. 1934).
ONE OF THE GREATEST JUDGES OF OUR TIME!!!!!

Joseph Stavitsky
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Yes, one thing that one judge said one time means you are right forever

Conservasplaining 101

Boscoe
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I have a question: If forcing corporations to pay their taxes is “theft”, then what is it when the rest of us have to pay more to cover these multi-billion dollar corporations who aren’t paying their share?

Brent Butterfield
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It is called the redistribution of wealth.

Rick Williams
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We have the option of changing our address as well. I’m strongly considering moving to Canada before they close their borders to us pesky Americans who will be fleeing the U.S. of Latinos.

Clay Austin
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Oh Rick.. please do! And with a quickness!

Joseph Stavitsky
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Yes the government in power over there being what it is he should fit right in

Joseph Stavitsky
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Patriotism, duh.

What are ya, some kinda commie?

Dont forget, we get to pay for all the roads, bridges, utilities (lookin at you internet). They get to use them for nothing/next to nothing and pretend they got there themselves.

Reminder; red states use more federal money than blue states. Always have, always will.

Dusc
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FYI Joseph. If you are an “Owner/Operator” of a Commercial Motor Vehicle, then indeed you are paying for the roads & bridges. If not, then you do not pay into the Federal Highway Use Fund. Yes, you pay at the pump for local (wherever you purchase gas.) “Funds”. However, so do trucking companies and O/O’s on every drop of diesel purchased in every state. Also, this fund is protected by wording that only allows the use of these monies for the repair and maintenance of the highways and bridges (not the beautification of the median for example). So, how is… Read more »
Joseph Stavitsky
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Conservative fails to understand something he read! Details at 11!

PASTOR PAUL
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The destruction of our Country is underway on every side it seems. Did people not take an oath on every level ..to stop foreign and domestic enemies. The sane world has seen through this Barry Soto or whatever his name …and so if they are all in ?? will they turn their guns on Americans?

Michael May
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Soooo —– this Stated as SO — Obviously making good sense —- WHO’s gunna be the ONE — in the future ADMINs National / State / Local, that RESENDS alllll of these wrong doings — even goin back to Clinton / Reagan Years ???? —– It’s NOT Jusssss the here n NOW that’s so blatantly WRONG —- it ALLLLL started many many years ago —— Who’s gunna hold TRUE to the Core Senses of Righting ALLLL of these past n pesent Wrongs proven Wrong by time old an economics that have failed miserably ??? This is the “LULL” that Year… Read more »
disqus_v3SHzvCspj
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All Correct here, but think twice about the verbiage which will be misquoted, taken out of context, twisted and used over and over and over.

Joseph Stavitsky
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No need to twist what is already quite twisted

Paul Harris
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I’ve always liked Frederic Bastiat; TANSTAAFL (There ain’t no such thing as a free lunch) The Parable of the Broken Window) 😉 😉

Joseph Stavitsky
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So some cheese-eating surrender monkeys are ok apparently

Clay Austin
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If Mr. West feels that avoiding paying taxes is “patriotic”.. I guess that’s what happens when you’re educated at state run institutions! And is the reason he will never, ever be presidential material! His rhetoric is so off base and lopsided, only his foolish follower believe it!

M Jones
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LOL Clay, at least he got educated and a good dose of reality and common sense and that is more then I can say from reading your and other leftist posts here. Tell me where and how you have served this country with honor.

Clay Austin
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I serve this country by paying my taxes, voting and being a good citizen! Perhaps I should have died in Iraq fighting for democracy and peace in the region! How’s that going? Ask Halliburton.. they’ll be happy to tell ya!

Rick Williams
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Did we have a mass exodus of corporations before Obama and the liberal need to take wealth and give it to the unproductive? No. Corporations have a right to protect what they do – business. If someone wants to plunder their coffers for “social good” then the corporations have not only the right, but the obligation to their shareholders or owners to retreat from that situation if harmful. Speaking of not properly educated, you should take a beginning business or economics class sometime. It would help you understand some basic things. “Doing your fair share” does not bloody mean going… Read more »
Clay Austin
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Yes.. very patriotic thinking indeed! Protect your corporate wealth by sending it AND jobs, overseas! Right of the of Romney playbook… and you see where it got him with the populous! Don’t believe what you hear.. “Greed is NOT Good”!

Layne Morales
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Your first sentence demonstrates that you don’t know how to read.

Joseph Stavitsky
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Your first sentence demonstrates that you are unable to use google and therefore do not belong online. Cheers,

Rick Williams
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If you think “Google” is the best way to find accurate information, it’s no wonder you’re one of the Sheeple. To maintain viability during a time of downtrend, companies, especially ones that are already multinational, need to be given a chance to invest in themselves (R&D of more profitable offerings, infrastructure to streamline costs, stock buybacks to cut expenses, etc.) if they are expected to maintain their contribution to a society (providing jobs, paying taxes, college funds, tuition reimbursement, donating to charity). To increase taxes on an individual and have them maintain the same standard of living, their income must… Read more »
Joseph Stavitsky
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Holy Supply-Side economics, Batman!

Please provide accurate timeframes for the following, using your source of choice

-outsourcing of steel manufacturing

-outsourcing of automobile parts manufacturing

Note that one of the biggest industry sectors (consumer electronics) was _never_ manufactured stateside. Reasons include that pesky EPA getting all uptight about waste byproducts ending up in your water supply.

M Jones
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The definition of a patriot is men like you and those that have served with honor and love this country following our Constitution given to us by our founding Fathers.

Joseph Stavitsky
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Interesting definition of service with honor, that manages to cover shooting unarmed prisoners.

Layne Morales
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Perhaps you have re-defined the meaning of “shooting unarmed prisoners” as Lefties are want to do. Otherwise, keep your lies to yourself.

Joseph Stavitsky
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As a simple demonstration of the proper argumentative technique;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allen_West_(politician)#Iraq_interrogation_incident

But, Wikipedia has a well-known liberal bias

Layne Morales
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Perhaps you continue to attempt a re-definition of “shooting unarmed prisoners”. You got your notes from Kerry, didn’t you?

Joseph Stavitsky
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You must enjoy embarrassing yourself. It says somewhere in there that he was armed?

Layne Morales
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I’m never embarrassed when calling out a liar. You feign not understanding my point. If you don’t, you prove your delusion.

rowdygirl726
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Colonel West, I appreciate your conviction to tell it like it is. Here’s proof of what you pointed out. This is Senator Joe Manchin’s daughter making a move for tax purposes. I’m a West Virginian and this is shameful.. http://wvmetronews.com/2014/07/21/mylans-overseas-move/ Mylan’s overseas move http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2014/07/14/reluctantly-patriot-flees-homeland-to-elude-taxes/?_php=true&_type=blogs&_r=0 Heather Bresch grew up around politics. Her father isJoe Manchin, the Democratic senator from West Virginia and a former governor. She has heard him say repeatedly, “We live in the greatest country on Earth,” as he did in countless political advertisements. And it appeared to rub off on her: Ms. Bresch was named a “Patriot of… Read more »
milworker
Guest

Bastiat had it right long ago, even pointing out the flaws in our Constitution that eventually led to the Civil War.
http://bastiat.org/en/the_law.html

chris_hillman@msn.com
Guest

Everyone should read Bastiat’s “The Law”. It should be required reading in our schools, families & homes. But liberal socialists don’t want us to know what it says. I read it several years ago. Glad that Allen West has read it too. Much truth therein.

Joseph Stavitsky
Guest

I thought you guys were opposed to government propaganda through assigned reading?

Brent Butterfield
Guest

It’s not government propaganda when it is against government policies…

William556
Guest

Bastiat’s work is brilliant. Everyone should read it and it is short and easy to understand. Then they should read Gustav Le Bon’s “The Crowd.” This is an equally excellent study of human behavior in groups.

Rafael X
Guest

Aren’t the school vouchers Allen West is always advocating for redistribution? Wouldn’t they qualify as “legal plunder” as per Bastiat’s economic theory?

sybilll
Guest

Property taxes are collected to pay for schools, dolt. Doesn’t matter which physical school they attend, taxpayers fund them. Aside from the fact that many charter schools are cheaper because they don’t pay for the Democratic money laundrying outfit known as teacher’s unions.

Rafael X
Guest

Property taxes are collected to pay for public schools. All the countries kicking the US of A butt in math and science have this one thing in common. Strong teacher’s union.

Rick Williams
Guest

Really??? They have strong teacher’s unions in China?? In N. Korea?? That will be a giant shocker for the Communist Party.

Rafael X
Guest

Western countries, but you get my point.

Mike
Guest

They aren’t kicking the USof As butt because of a teachers union!

Vouchers are NOT redistribution because it isn’t forcing everyone to pay except those under a certain threshold.

Ken Jewett
Guest

People who pay no tax should not have a vote where the money needs to be spent. When America was founded, that went without saying because if you didn’t work, (and were able-bodied) you didn’t eat.

Rafael X
Guest

Only people who don’t pay taxes are people who never spend any money.

49_67_71_77
Guest

No!

Rafael X
Guest

Thank god the government invented the Internet for you to post that empty response. So the government taking money from you to subsidize private school for a kid you don’t know is not redistribution?

49_67_71_77
Guest

I am tired of my tax money being use to finance public schools that are more daycare centers than educational institutions.
Too many students don’t care as well as their parents, and too many teachers consider teaching just a job and don’t care.
Also, the curriculum includes material I oppose and ignores what should be taught. Too often public schools are being used to indoctrinate our youth.

Mike
Guest
You liberals always try to speak in a manner that isn’t true to reality to make your points. Subsidies for children for private school is not the problem. It is the MASS subsidizing of everyone who refuses to contribute by taking from those who do that becomes a problem. If you don’t see that then you just don’t think deep enough. Frederick Bastiat wrote, “If you don’t take care, what begins by being an exception tends to become general, to multiply itself, and to develop into a veritable system.” So, why do you think it is OK to take from… Read more »
Joseph Stavitsky
Guest

Of course they are not. They help makers not takers. Commie.

Joseph Stavitsky
Guest

Wow, everybody ignored my other comments and upvoted this. Awesome.

Rafael X
Guest

Some people don’t understand sarcasm.

Joseph Stavitsky
Guest

These people don’t understand sarcasm.

/fify

republic
Guest

Excellent. And don’t forget to support AmericaIdea for the 2016 Dream Candidate. As time is indeed running out, we better have the best candidate or you can forget about it.

Dee Davis
Guest
If you are going to run for President I would vote for you. Obama always tries to portray us as a racist if we do not agree with him. I am not a racist but I do not believe anything this man has done has helped us. Our America has been hurt and I do not know if we will ever recover. We need a strong leader and certainly not a liberal to help us recover. I hope he will be impeached immediately. I know that is not logical but it is never the less my wish. You wrote an… Read more »
gun_nut
Guest

I would rather see a Cruz/Haley ticket with West as Sec Def, but I certainly would enjoy a West Presidency.

Earl Lee
Guest

He’s already said he is too afraid to run! Sorry!

Joseph Stavitsky
Guest

List the things Obama has done to hurt America

Benghazi and what else?

Warrior7Princess
Guest

If you don’t already know, and you don’t read the news, then you evidently don’t care. Now you want to disrupt and get attention on this. It sounds like you would be better off to go to a shrink.

tammy
Guest

You definitely have not been paying attention. Go look it up, no one is obligated to do your homework, besides you are so deluded you would not believe it anyway if you watched them happen before your own eyes

Jack
Guest

its his lack of leadership you dunce. he sucks. plain and simple

Earl Lee
Guest

Benghazi…DEBUNKED….next!

Warrior7Princess
Guest

Right you are Earl Lee. The House is getting ready to roast nuts on that one.

Tomtomgogo
Guest
Real Americans don’t leave other Americans behind. Obama and his administration of pu$$ies left men behind to fend for themselves for hours. You POS’s would probably leave your own family members behind if they were being robbed and beaten because YOU might get hurt…true cowards just like BHO, Hillary, Biden, etc…Tell ya what, split the country in two. Let the Progs run 1/2 and the conservatives run the other half. Since you POS’s hate guns, oil and religion we’ll take them all. Since we hate high taxes, overspending, handouts, windfarms and solar panels, you can have those. In 25 years… Read more »
Joseph Stavitsky
Guest

Right, split the country in half.

Because that’s exactly how the polling breaks down.

Priceless.

Joseph Stavitsky
Guest

Weeeellll, I only went there cause these clowns arent gonna shut up about it no matter how much evidence to the contrary we supply.

Warrior7Princess
Guest

It sounds like you are owned and operated by the CFR.

Warrior7Princess
Guest

You can impress yourself because you don’t seem to be able to impress anyone else.

Joseph Stavitsky
Guest

Looks real official!

Brenda Childers
Guest

It would be easier to ask, what had he done to help the American people??

Joseph Stavitsky
Guest

Hmm lets see

1) (Attempted to) implement Mitt Romney’s plan for affordable healthcare

2) Gotten us out of 2 wars

… keep going?

Not that I am Obama’s biggest fan, by any stretch, but the notion that the country is worse off after him than before him is a bad joke.

Warrior7Princess
Guest
LOL! You are a laugh a minute. Mitt Ronmey’s health care plan was no more than 50 pages long. obama’s was thousands of pages of regulations aimed at depriving our freedoms, rationing health care and costing us trillions. Mitts plan was kept within a balance budget and it offered health care to the state. Look what happened to Iraq. Jihadist took over and ended up with billions of dollars and American equipment. obama meddled around in countries in the middle east and poof, they magically were taken over by the muslim brotherhood. obama pitched in on the war between Israel… Read more »
TacticalYoda
Guest

Surrender will “get you out” of wars…

Joseph Stavitsky
Guest

How did we surrender? Which goals did we fail to accomplish?

Should we have stayed in Iraq despite the fact that the government we installed no longer wanted us there?

ohthehugemanatee
Guest
Obummer got us “out” of 2 wars only to bring the fight to our homeland by keeping the borders open, releasing terrorists from Gitmo back to the battlefield, and by drawing imaginary red lines all over the Middle East. As for implementing “Mitt Romney’s plan for affordable healthcare” THAT remains to be seen as he, with his pen and his phone” changes the rules and regulations on a whim every time a bump appears in the road, so whatever the “healthcare” plans that we have now are, they are far from affordable for many Americans. They will not even be… Read more »
Glenda Bruzewski
Guest

You forgot to men
tion his jet.

Joseph Stavitsky
Guest

Proof that the “border” “problem” was made worse or created by “Obummer”.

Evidence to support the claim that healthcare is more expensive after ACA than before.

Good luck!

But at least we got you to admit that Obama care = romneycare. Progress of a sort I suppose.

Warrior7Princess
Guest

Romney care was intended to take care of people within a state. obamacare was designed to bankrupt and regulate the United states at large. This is wrong, wrong, wrong to compare Romney care with obama care. Put some logic into this. Thousands of pages of regulation was uncalled for. And citizens were not told the truth. They weren’t told they would have to take care of illegal aliens. They weren’t told it would cost trillions.

tammy
Guest

At this point, there is no comparison, besides the Dems changed Romney care so much, Romney wouldn’t recognize it. BTW, Romney care was a states right to implement. The Federal gov has no right to remove that right from the states. The Federal gov only has the power given in the Constitution, but they have way over stepped their rights

Andy Martin
Guest
[[ Proof that the “border” “problem” was made worse or created by “Obummer” ]] Pick up a newspaper and look what;s going on down there lately. [[ Examples of terrorists who were allowed into the country during Obama’s presidency.]] Ties in to the ‘refugee’ problem http://silencedogood2010.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/ms13children.jpg [[ Evidence to support the claim that healthcare is more expensive after ACA than before.]] http://tinyurl.com/o8sgny6 [[ Obama care = romneycare ]] Wrong. Your Liar-In-Chief wanted single payer in 2003 long before he became pResident. And 3 years BEFORE Romneycare. Your scummy POS POTUS used the Romneycare diversion once people started getting pi$$ed at… Read more »
Joseph Stavitsky
Guest

Confusion between correlation and causation = not taking you seriously anymore. Reagan gave amnesty to over 2.7 million;

https://www.numbersusa.com/content/learn/illegal-immigration/seven-amnesties-passed-congress.html

but this is all Obama’s fault… riiight

That source better for ya, you clowns?

We havent even gotten to geopolitics and drug policy. But the good news is now I get to completely ignore everything else you wrote. Cheers!

Warrior7Princess
Guest

LOL. you talk about Reagan. It doesn’t have anything to do with what is happening now. Nor does it justify what obama is doing.

Eric
Guest

I would love to meet you Joseph.

Andy Martin
Guest

And you’re actually stupid enough to think I was a fan of Reagan’s amnesty. Now if you want to go back 30 years as a diversion from what Obama is doing, I’ll accept your surrender.

[[ We havent even gotten to geopolitics and drug policy ]]

You mean more ‘left’ turns?

Oh I fully get why you ignored the rest of my post. You can’t refute any of it.

Joseph Stavitsky
Guest

And I’ll continue to ignore the rest of your post until you either prove Obama caused the “immigration” “crisis” or made it much worse, as you originally claimed, or move on with life. Stay safe!

Warrior7Princess
Guest

You seem to be begging for someone to call you an idiot. Well that is not necessary.

Andy Martin
Guest

Asked and answered lefty. Revel in your denial.

Joseph Stavitsky
Guest

No sarcasm, genuine question

You posted somewhere concrete statistical evidence that Obama’s policies caused an increase in undocumented migrants?

Occasionally even I fail to read correctly, so, please enlighten me

Warrior7Princess
Guest

A paid troll would come up with something like that.

Andy Martin
Guest

You have Selective Vision Detachment. It is solely a LIEberal malady.

Eric
Guest

Andy, he obviously is brain dead and not worth debating. Just ignore the guy.

Andy Martin
Guest

I know Eric. He was a good chew toy for awhile. His shelf life is almost done though 😉

Rick Williams
Guest

OUT of two wars?? OUT??? wow… just wow. What about the war he refuses to address that we won’t have a choice about? Out of the frying pan and into the fire. If I didn’t think you were just another lib cuckoo stirring up mischief, Joseph, I’d actually be saddened.

Joseph Stavitsky
Guest

I’m still waiting, guys, for even a vague description of victory in either iraq or Afghanistan.

Andy Martin
Guest

Well, I think Obama shot a 76 at Langston the other day. I think that was the victory he was referring to.

Mike
Guest

Please by all means name the 2 wars he got us out of because he actually ended ONLY the Iraq war WAY too early and caused every death and drop of blood spilled to be for naught.

This Country is worse off then before him!! You have no damned clue and again are a blinded liberal who doesn’t see that we look ok because of the money being fluffed into the system by QE.

Wake up Liberal.

Tomtomgogo
Guest

Here’s the liberal crystal ball: Detroit…50 years of liberal policies (high taxes, handouts, spending beyond your means, corruption) and you have a POS city. Now, apply that to the country and by 2058 you’ll have a POS country. It’s really simple math…

Joseph Stavitsky
Guest

Are there more troops in Afghanistan now than before he got into office, or fewer?

What is your idea of victory in Iraq? What does it look like?

What economic indicators lead you to believe the country is “worse off”?

Andy Martin
Guest

[[ What economic indicators lead you to believe the country is “worse off”? ]]

Higher prices, lower wages, more people on unemployment, less hours of work, higher gas prices. How’s that for starters?

TacticalYoda
Guest
What economic indicator leads you to believe we are better off? a BS jobless claims report? Try having a look at the labor participation rate… Oh, I know! it’s the DJIA, right? Sorry, that’s propped up by QE and that balloon is going to bust big time. Howabout non-economic accolades to your messiah. Here’s a good one “he’s deported more illegals than any other President” what he isn’t telling his little sheep (that’s you) is this: HE began counting border interdictions as “deportations” NO OTHER PRESIDENT counted them, EVER. when you look at actual deportations (you know, you have to… Read more »
Jack
Guest

you forgot to mention how he killed Bin Laden and closed Gitmo. now beat it troll..

Earl Lee
Guest

Country is better off Jethro! Just just refuse to look at FACTS! You prefer to have others tell you WHAT TO THINK!!

Layne Morales
Guest

1) Key word “Attempted” to do the undoable.
2) Key word “Abandoned”.

Joseph Stavitsky
Guest

I want to hear what you consider “victory” in Iraq and Afghanistan. Yes, I know you want to massacre all the Browns. We won’t let you. Sorry.

Re Obamacare, its OK, next time we’ll make sure its single payer.

Still nothing so far about how he permanently damaged America. All economic indicators are positive and steadily rising. Bush 2 left the economy in the toilet and stuck your precious grandchildren with the tab for 2 wars of choice. What, again, has Obama done to “permanently damage” America?

Andy Martin
Guest

[[ I want to hear what you consider “victory” in Iraq and Afghanistan. Yes, I know you want to massacre all the Browns. We won’t let you. Sorry ]]

Instead of giving Obama a reach-around, YOU tell the class how there has been a ‘victory’ achieved. Because we left? When we left Nam, Pol Pot got busy and took out millions of Cambodians. Get the analogy lefty?

Joseph Stavitsky
Guest

Naa, too lazy. Anybody who thinks I give Obama reach-arounds hasn’t been to my Disqus thread. Not saying that that’s a requirement, but perhaps a good idea before talking out the wrong orifice

Andy Martin
Guest

Now that you’ve weakly responded to the smack portion of my post, respond to the rest.

Joseph Stavitsky
Guest

No. There was no victory available. Transnational terror networks cannot be defeated by conventional military forces.

Andy Martin
Guest

So who the hell said to go only conventional?

Joseph Stavitsky
Guest

Bush, apparently

Andy Martin
Guest

And how would you know? You have clearance to know what’s going on? Get over yourself. All GW got from your ilk was whining about the poor terrorists rights when they tried to get down-n-dirty with your AQ brethren.

Joseph Stavitsky
Guest

If the amount of troops we sent to Iraq could not eliminate Al Qaeda, then no amount could. It took obummer to find and kill Bin Laden. Thanks for playing.

Andy Martin
Guest

You’re stupid enough to think it was about how many troops instead of the way the war was conducted. You don’t send troops to fight a political war. Nam should have taught us that.

Joseph Stavitsky
Guest

So why did bush send troops?

Andy Martin
Guest

That is what you do when you declare a war.

Joseph Stavitsky
Guest

And, please, proof that leaving Vietnam enabled Pol Pot more than coming there in the first place did.

But, sorry, I promised I would stop interacting with you until you got somewhere with the immigration issue. Keeping it now.

Andy Martin
Guest

I’ll assume you have basic skills of deduction. We left, he started killing. We fully extracted from Iraq, all hell broke loose. No charge for the lesson kid.

Joseph Stavitsky
Guest

Basic skills of deduction involve knowing the difference between correlation and causation. You have made it abundantly clear you cannot distinguish the two. As such, you are unqualified to debate me. Best of luck!

Andy Martin
Guest

You can wax sophistical bloviate any dodge and non sequitur you wish. We left both nations to their own devices and all hell broke loose as a result.

Joseph Stavitsky
Guest

tl;dr

logic has a liberal bias.

Andy Martin
Guest

Liberal logic is an oxyMORON.

Joseph Stavitsky
Guest

Again with the personal attacks.

Classy debating style you have there.

Andy Martin
Guest

Likewise. Learn to receive as you give.

Joseph Stavitsky
Guest

All I’ve ever done is call you people clowns. You accuse me of shilling for terrorists with no evidence. Thanks, play again soon!

Andy Martin
Guest

[[ All I’ve ever done is call you people clowns.]]

And all I did was respond in comparable style. Shill on Yassir. Shill on.

Tomtomgogo
Guest
Listen, I’ll put the economy into simple terms for you. Let’s say the country has 4 citizens and an economy that has only $100 floating around. Citizen A has $5, and thus owns 5% of the economy, Citizen B has $10 and thus owns 10% of the economy, Citizen C $15 and thus owns 15% of the economy and Citizen D has $25 and thus owns 25% of the economy. The government has the rest ($45 and 45% of the economy). The government now prints an extra $100. So, there’s $200 floating around, but A, B, C and D don’t… Read more »
Glenda Bruzewski
Guest

Very simply stated that a 3rd grader could understand. Who does all of this hurt the most? Middle class working families that is who.

Joseph Stavitsky
Guest

Hmm, some random dude on the internet or nobel prize winners. Hard to choose!

Andy Martin
Guest

Hmmmmmm. Some sycophantic libtard or cold, hard facts. Hard to choose.

Tomtomgogo
Guest

By Nobel Prize Winner, do you mean “Kill-em with drones, I won the Nobel Peace Prize for doing absolutely nothing” Obama?

Joseph Stavitsky
Guest

No, I mean Krugman. Thanks for playing!

Andy Martin
Guest

KRUGMAN?? LOL!!! He’s regarded as a hack among his peers.

Andy Martin
Guest

Using Joe’s criteria for droning to a peace prize, if I beat the hell out of my neighbor, I’ll attain Mother Teresa status.

Mike
Guest

Victory in War happens when the enemy surrenders or is beaten.

Obama left while the enemy was still attacking!!

And again, Indicators from the left are positive because they ignore the QE that is going on Monthly.

How can you be so damned stupid?

Joseph Stavitsky
Guest

Again, how, please? We can dismiss the word permanent if it makes you feel better. I will concede there are still troops in Afghanistan if you agree that there is an exit strategy. Finally, will somebody, for god’s sake, tell me wh the “enemy” is that we are supposed to defeat over there? Al Qaeda is transnational. So is isis. The taliban is now part of the government by the government’s own choice. Any other suggestions?

Andy Martin
Guest

So you want to pull a Bill Clinton and exclude terrorists as legitimate enemies? Why? Because they don’t wear a state uniform? Your kind of thinking is a big part of your problem.

Layne Morales
Guest
History is rife with the failures of Marxism, yet you and Obama want to double down. Thus your delusion is exposed, and no mountain of evidence will move the delusional. For those who share some measure of reason: 1. Bush spent too much on the wars, but all wars have been funded by deficit spending. 2. O is the first president to fund “ongoing expenses” by deficit, and the first to add trillions for that purpose. That is permanent damage. 3. O has been at the forefront of the un-definition of marriage. This has wreaked untold moral hazard on this… Read more »
Joseph Stavitsky
Guest

Yea I’m done with you once you use the word “marxism”. The fact that you used that word in reference to anything Obama said or did is conclusive proof that you need to do more reading before having a debate. Cheers!

One simple demonstration of the depth of your ignorance; try to provide concrete examples of how any of the terms under 6 were redefined by Obama or anybody. Good luck!

Still waiting on an apology regarding West’s war record. Cheers!

Mike
Guest
You don’t think its Marxism? We know that Obama is involved in Class Warfare and we know that Obama is involved in huge wealth redistribution.. Now, with that in mind, Let us read the definition of Marxism per Wiki… “Marxism is a worldview and method of societal analysis that focuses on class relations and societal conflict, that uses a materialist interpretation of historical development, and a dialectical view of social transformation. Marxist methodology uses economic and sociopolitical inquiry and applies that to the analysis and critique of the development of capitalism and the role of class struggle in systemic economic… Read more »
Joseph Stavitsky
Guest

Yes, beating and shooting at unarmed POWs is merely an ideological difference.

Man, I can’t remember the last time I had this much fun.

Now, time to give examples of marxist behavior by Obama. Cheers.

Layne Morales
Guest

If you want to apologize to Congressman West for lying about his record, then that is the only apology you will see.

If you don’t like your Marxist views, change them.

Your ignorance is further displayed by the use of the term “redefined by Obama”. I didn’t mention O in that sense, I mentioned “those in power”.

To that end, inflation has been redefined several times to exclude housing, gas, and other factors to avoid “volatility”. How convenient! Google the others.

Joseph Stavitsky
Guest

How did I lie about West’s record?

Mike
Guest

You don’t even know? lol, that is sad

Donald Chandler
Guest
increased debt without any economic improvement.emboldened our enemies usurped power he is not entitled to.Put a corrupt and bigoted Justice department into place. implemented a horrible health care plan which cost jobs and hours along with poor and very limited service increased others health care premiums in so cases 200% mine is 150%allowing illegal migrants to come into the country with almost no hindrance.Calls every one who disagrees with him a racist and divided American on levels not seen since the sixties. Has an EPA with powers to wreck people’s lives.Trying to repeal the 1st and 2nd amendments.Just the tip… Read more »
Joseph Stavitsky
Guest

Again, first sentence = google fail. Keep up the good work!

Rick Williams
Guest
The supposed economic improvements are fallacy, Joseph. And if you keep saying “Google” as if it’s a source of facts, you’ll get sent to the corner. What do you do when it doesn’t pop up the latest tripe from Huff Post and accidentally sends you to a site that has facts? Disregard it as a fluke? LOL “Even if 2008 (-0.3%) and 2009’s (-3.1%) negative annual GDP percentages are dropped (something undone for the other periods) and only the 2010-13 period is averaged, the result is just 1.95% – still over a full percentage point below the previous decade’s.” Forbes… Read more »
Joseph Stavitsky
Guest

You do realize that the word “decade” is going to cause you some problems, right?

Rafael X
Guest

That “worse President ever” meme is a feeble attempt at making people forget GWB ever existed. Allen West is always deriding “blame Bush” as if his policies don’t have anymore effect today, but is fond of quoting LBJ saying the N word sixty years ago.

Mike
Guest
Why is it that Obama is the ONLY President who gets to claim the president before him is the cause for all his failures when he is the only one who ever claimed he could fix it all in one term? Sad that you actually believe that Obama is better then Bush. Bush did things for which he should have been impeached. The people all should have demanded it when he created the DHS which puts all the 3 letter previously autonomous agencies under his thumb and then when he created the Patriot act. But only one issue remains here… Read more »
Joseph Stavitsky
Guest

I dont actually care about Allen West (Shocker)! The problem is the fanboys, who get to parade their AK-47s on Dealy Plaza because White Privilege.

Andrew Geren
Guest

Wow, don’t be racist Joseph you pig. “White privilege” is a statement meant to promote idiocy and racism without a half a brains actual thought.

Joseph Stavitsky
Guest

Haha white privilege is racist. Up is down. Black is white. I’m rubber, you’re glue.

As long as Zimmerman walks free I get to ignore any and all claims of reverse racism from you people. Cheers!

Mike
Guest
Zimmerman shot that kid in self defense. If you don’t see that then you are an idiot. But there you go again using your liberal AUTO REJECT feature!! Because you two were talking about racism, You mention something out of the blue such as Zimmerman and then claim that you get to ignore ALL claims. This is a serious brainwashing problem you liberals have. Let us look at facts… There were screams of horror on a tape. Martins uncle first said it was not Trayvon. THen Trayvons father said it was not Trayvon. Then changed his tune. But lets look… Read more »
Joseph Stavitsky
Guest

Thats why I got my liberal smartphone, for the auto reject feature.

That OK as long as you keep typing in capslock you’ll still get through.

But, let’s add up the total so far. You guys have managed to

-defend an officer who shot at an unarmed prisoner

-defend a man who shot an unarmed boy who weighed nearly 40 lbs less than he did

-claim that war crimes are “small ideological differences”

And you guys wonder why we want to take your guns?

Until Zimmerman goes back on trial, nobody is going to debate this nonsense with you. Especially not me.

Bobdabuilder
Guest

Don’t bother with “Joseph”. He’s nothing more than a paid troll, which is pretty much the lowest form of scum around.

Joseph Stavitsky
Guest

Darn, I wish I was lucky enough to be paid.!

Mike
Guest

Then you are an idiot.

Hoppytoo
Guest

I’m glad you’re not. You’re a troll just for the hell of it.

Joseph Stavitsky
Guest

Still waiting on evidence for any of your claims, or counterevidence to mine. You people have yet to even engage with the idea that the site’s owner is an (admittedly unconvicted) war criminal.

Hue Collins
Guest

Please share Mr. Wests crimes — you’ll need a tiny pencil.
Now, right below that, please list the crimes of the president, the AG, and a few top members of Congress. While you’re at it, please include a list of Democrats in Congress who have either been jailed or charged of crimes in the past couple of years. You can go ahead and list the same from a Republican view as well, although that part of your large page will be blank or nearly blank.

Joseph Stavitsky
Guest

Allen west is a war criminal. I have linked to the relevant wikipedia entry. What anyone else did or did not do is completely irrelevant. Thanks for playing!

notbuttkissinlib
Guest

Joseph Stavitsky: If you want to be taken seriously in a battle of intellectual wits, you need to quit using wikipedia for any semblance of reliable information. Dumbass…….did you not know wiki is OPEN sourced? What that means for your small and limited intellect is anybody can post an article and ANYBODY can edit that same article. In other words, wiki is about as reliable as Hamas’ humanitarian efforts to feed the starving Ethiopians.

Joseph Stavitsky
Guest

Wikipedia is a source. Sometimes, it links to other sources. If _you_ consider it inferior, respond with sources you consider superior.

I assure you that the last concern I have is being taken seriously by you clowns. I’m here for the laughs.

Hue Collins
Guest

Irrelevant? I don’t believe this article we’re commenting on is about Allen West, so try again. And, as you said, thanks for playing but you lost a point.

Joseph Stavitsky
Guest

Haha moving the goalposts by first demanding lists of crimes and then attempting to shift the topic back to the original article.

I see what you did there!

catdad7
Guest

Conservatism is intellectually dead….It’s distraction 24-7. Conservatives don’t get votes based on higher ideas. They get votes and win elections by pandering to fears and resentments.
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Your write” in the case of our progressive socialist President Obama”

As a progressive, this makes me want to laugh and cry at the same time. I WISH Obama was a progressive. In reality, he is a classic corporate centrist Democrat who is about as radical as an episode of The Brady Bunch.
– Conservative’s God is Ayn Rand….a viscous, militant atheist who despised the teachings of Jesus…and only views complete narcissism as the only moral good.

JGracen
Guest
Well that’s a very cynical view of Conservatism if I’ve ever seen one! Conservatives are not all tax dodging corporate raiders, you neglect to realize that nearly 50% of the people in this country consider themselves “conservative” and most of those are small business owners and regular hard-working Americans. To put all Conservatives in a box and label them as having no real God or not believing in the teachings of Christ is just plain dumb and shows how clueless your comments truly are! Is it moral to force people to pay MORE than their fair share? Is it moral… Read more »
Scott Lanway
Guest

“Conservatism is intellectually dead”
You forgot morally and ideologically bankrupt!

tammy
Guest

You meant liberal, right. Conservatives are mostly Christian. Liberals are mostly Godless. The Dem party threw God out of their platform. That shows exactly how they think about God. They also have a particular problem with morals and the decency to live a life of kindness, justice, or charity. They love giving away other peoples money. They love murdering sweet innocent babies and they live a life of hating everything that is good

Eric
Guest

I would love to meet you Scott.

JimmieMee
Guest

it’s patriotic to pay your high taxes endure regulations no other country has and then finally go broke and put all your employees on welfare..The Progressive kinder way…