Why I wish the black community were more like the LGBT community

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Quick: guess what percentage of the U.S. population is gay. Now, tell me what percentage of the population is black. Hold those thoughts for a moment.

When you assess the influence the LGBT lobby has in America you’d think the population is significant. They’re quite adept in manipulating public opinion and advocating for policies that favor their community. Just look at the number of TV shows that feature gay characters or gay story lines. What percentage did you guess? Eight to ten percent? There was even a Gallup Poll where respondents believed the actual gay population to be 1 in 5, or 20 percent.

Not even close. According to the first large-scale government survey measuring sexual orientation from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, LESS THAN THREE PERCENT of the U.S. population identify themselves as gay, lesbian or bisexual. That means basically 97 percent of the population is heterosexual.

As the Washington Post reports, ”The National Health Interview Survey, which is the government’s premier tool for annually assessing Americans’ health and behaviors, found that 1.6 percent of adults self-identify as gay or lesbian, and 0.7 percent consider themselves bisexual. The overwhelming majority of adults, 96.6 percent, labeled themselves as straight in the 2013 survey. An additional 1.1 percent declined to answer, responded “I don’t know the answer” or said they were “something else.” (A previous Gallup poll pegged the total number at 3.4 percent)

And yet right now I’m looking at a Direct TV ad for the film “To Be Takei” which chronicles the life of former Star Trek veteran, George Takei, who is also famously gay. (He is also a Japanese-American, but that group represents only two-tenths of a percent of the population).

Now, I know all the liberal progressive socialists and radical gay progressives are just sitting back waiting to pounce – sorry folks.

My point of analysis is this: how can such a small percentage of the population have such a powerful impact on public policy? How is it that this small, special interest lobby can be so effective in overturning the referendum of the people in the State of California and influence judicial benches to rule in their favor?

How is it that the small group can mobilize so effectively to cause a married couple to lose their bakery business in Oregon, and another “straight” couple to be forced into court in New Mexico over their photography studio?

How is it that this small group can effect military personnel policy — and I’d like to know the size of the LGBT population in the U.S. military. How can it be that 1.6 percent of the American population can be so effective in advocating its agenda?

And here’s the reason why I ask. Because 13 percent of this country is black and seems to have no voice whatsoever to effect policy to turn around the horrific conditions of our inner cities.

The President is black. The Attorney General is black. The head of Homeland Security is black. There is even a Congressional Black Caucus, National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP), National Urban League, fraternities and sororities, U.S. Black Chamber of Commerce, National Black Chamber of Commerce, Black Pastors Associations, Black Professional Associations — heck, there’s even a National Association of Black SCUBA Divers.

All of this and we have an out-of-wedlock birth rate in the black community of 72 percent. Just 1.6 percent can push for gay marriage but 13 percent cannot promote what was once the strength of the black community: the traditional family unit with one man and one woman.

There is a real black unemployment rate of nearly 16 percent, a black teen unemployment rate of nearly 40 percent and black small business and entrepreneurship is down. Here in South Florida, Broward County to be exact, contrast the vibrant gay community of Wilton Manors with the black community areas of nearby Ft. Lauderdale and comparatively assess the property values.

Schools in the black community are failing, but we have a black president and attorney general fighting against school choice/voucher programs. What the hell is going on that 1.6 percent is getting everything they want in advancing their policy agenda, but the black community is seemingly going backwards?

Look at the gang violence and murder in the black urban communities — you think if one gay person tripped and stubbed a toe in a straight neighborhood, the whole world wouldn’t know about it? Look at the abject failure of Detroit versus the thriving gay community of San Francisco. Somebody explain this to me, because I am truly befuddled.

How many black mayors are there? In my hometown of Atlanta there is Mayor Kasim Reed, who I hope doesn’t end up like former Mayor Bill Campbell or Detroit’s jailed Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick.

Compare the gay community in Atlanta, centered around Midtown, to that of the black community surrounding Turner Field. And just so you know, Cobb County won out for the new Atlanta Braves stadium. If you live in Atlanta, you know why.

Again, how is it that 1.6 percent is so much more effective than 13 percent? I think it boils down to this: leadership, focus, and unity. The gay community has even been successful in co-opting the “vision” of the black civil rights movement and claiming it for themselves in comparison. I don’t believe there is one, as race and sexual behavior are not comparable.

But it is their complete and total dedication to influence society to accommodate their lifestyle – talk about the one-percenters! And how is it that this small percentage is able to have countless political figures pander to their cause, whims, and voice — yet 13 percent can’t seem to get anything accomplished.

Based on the results of the survey I applaud the LGBT community in being able to affect such a powerful platform in American society and politics. There is another small group seemingly capable of doing the same: CAIR, ISNA, MPAC, and MAS. I would hope that LGBT community does not see them as allies.

What I do see is the black community in America becoming less and less relevant — something for the NAACP to ponder at their national convention next week in Las Vegas. My recommendation would be to have this convention in Chicago, Detroit, Philadelphia or Atlanta — just somewhere where the black urban community is failing and address the issues. Once upon a time, a prominent black leader advocated for education, entrepreneurship, and self-reliance. His name was Booker T. Washington.

Consider the words of the black woman in Houston regarding the wave of illegal immigrant children, who asked, “what about the g***** kids here?” Ma’am, I am asking the same.

This is the result of failed black leadership: irrelevance.

251 COMMENTS

  1. The LGBT community is fighting like the Black community did in the 60s. The Black Community won and became complacent. It will be interesting to see where the LGBT community is in 40 years.

    This is my opinion, not an attempt at derision nor is this meant to be derogotory toward any group.

    • But the Black community had right on their side.
      The LGBT community is not asking for fairness-they are tyrannical and telling us to throw out our morals and beliefs and if we don’t they are going to make us. That would not be God on their side-but the other

  2. The LGBT group has such a powerful control over the media and the politicians for one reason: POLITICAL CORRECTNESS. These morons that are so hell bent on not allowing anyone (except normal straight heterosexuals) to be offended about anything has created a nightmare that is reality.

  3. One would think that the skin color, sexual orientation or religious affiliation of people in this country shouldn’t be an issue. The problem is that you can’t keep pouring billions of dollars into these cities and expect it to do any good. Far too much corruption in local government for it to trickle down and be spent where it is needed. We set the poor people up in this country. We set then up to fail by giving them all they need. I am not just talking about a single race. I am talking about anybody of any color that receive grant money to live on. Not Food Stamps (although that is also a huge part of the problem) or medical, just monetary grants should be limited to a 5 year period of time during which the recipient and all members of their family of appropriate ages must either work or attend school. At the current time the only schooling offered is if somebody can finish and be employable within two years. We have flooded the market with lower level medical, electronics techs and mechanics and there are no jobs for these people for that reason. If somebody is qualified to receive assistance, they should have to work or attend school to keep that. There should also be a limit as to how many are supported. If the average family size in the US is 2 adults and 2.5 kids then that should be the maximum allowed to receive welfare monetary assistance. We have created a society of takers.

  4. When Hispanics were being hired in the Montgomery County MD courts systems 14 years ago a Black woman told me that they do not talk to anyone else just each other. That they just stick together. She said
    “‘ I HAVE TO KIND OF ADMIRE HOW THEY DO THAT”
    So suprised was I that she said that. ONE MORE INSTANCE OF BLACK WOMEN BEDING DISCRIMINATED AGAINST IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY., I thought
    You can trust me, being left out of the loop in a job situation can be very bad and I have had it happen to me.
    Now I understand that she was missing that with her own group.

  5. That’s because there is no solidarity in the Black Community. They will not help one another. And those who have made it out of the ghetto’s, for the most part, do not look back or help others to get out. They live in white neighborhoods and have nothing but white friends and tend to marry white people.

    My own neighbor is one of America’s Black working poor and she can no longer make ends meet. I have been giving her food and money now and rides to appointments for over a year and not one of her black friends or relatives will even give her a ride without asking for gas money. How is that? Now she is being evicted and her own son and ex-husband won’t lift a finger to help her move and refused to take her two cats until she can find another place to live. I find it very sad. And the only one trying to help her is this Old White Cracker, me !!!!!

  6. What the democrats understand is that the Black support is in numbers, but the LGBTQ support is in cash. The victimhood status of sodomites and lesbians includes an incredibly higher percentage of individual wealth, education, social connections and two parent families than Black Americans…yet, the Black community receives no positive attention or promotion. This is why we have rainbow flags flying over foreign embassies while Black youths are shooting one another on American streets.

  7. I think that part of the reason the LGBT community has amassed such influence is because, by and large, they are white children of privilege. They are well educated, well connected, and have a high amount of disposable income. Their view of entitlement has been fostered by the postmodern liberalism of the academy in America. Those are the starting points. Unfortunately, the black community is in such disarray that they don’t even seem to know how to take advantage of the opportunities that are available to them.

      • You know what’s funny? Most LGBT in the US are x-tians, lol. Common sense and a little intelligence would allow you to deduce that.

      • On some people it is hard to tell if they read the Alinsky text or if ridicule is a natural attribute.

    • AND they DEMAND excellence within their own groups. Ever been in a room full of queens when they are ripping each other over their personal appearance or manner, or the way their homes look, or how manicured their lawns are? I have. It can be funny and fun for all, but the underlying tone is to step up and be better people.

    • AND they DEMAND excellence within their own groups. I disagree about them being white children of privilege though. That’s just not true. Many start out as runaways who are escaping the disapproval of their parents and peers, and many start out on the streets, or being welcomed into the homes of others like them. Many start out in very difficult circumstance and rise above it.

      Ever been in a room full of queens when they are ripping each other over their personal appearance or manner, or the way their homes look, or how manicured their lawns are? I have. It can be funny and fun for all, but the underlying tone is to step up and be better people.

  8. problem is obammy does not believe in our constitution and has his own political agenda in mind, he could give a dam about the black community or american rights of the constitution. i truly believe in biblical terms he is the anti-christ. Thank you mr. West for being a true american patriot. always enjoy reading your articles, you have a realistic and honest point of view.

  9. Good thing you as well other respectable black Americans speak for the rest of the population to get word out! I wish more would listen, interesting more Caucasian Americans are in touch. Or is that RACISM?

  10. The problem, Colonel West is that in the seventies the African-American community sold itself into slavery to the Democrat Party. They helped destroy the African American family. They wrote out the father as unimportant in the black community and are working on writing him out of the rest of the country. By keeping blacks poor and ignorant, they can keep a powerful voting block. You want to change the black community’s influence, first thing you have to do is eliminate the race hustlers like Jesse Jackson, and Al Sharpton and replace their rhetoric of “you owe me” with one of “we have to build it ourselves”.

    The LGBT community (of which I consider myself a libertarian member) on the other hand tends to reject the “you owe me” attitude and replaces it with, as stereotypical as it seems, “you go girl!”. I still think most of them are mindless balls of fluff, but they don’t reject hard work.

    • Speaking of slavery…
      Hard working American middle class have become the slaves to the Dependotards, and somehow that’s OK with them. Incoming illegal brown people will now become the slaves of the fields and low earning jobs, hotel maids, fruit pickers, and again, that’s okay with the hand-outs-for a free ride-society. Hypocritical, don’t you think? They want to guilt everyone for slavery, yet indenture the working class to pay for them, and will hold their head up and proclaim it’s pay-back time as they live in poverty and complain that it’s every one else’s fault.

  11. The article appears to make allegations that are very disputable. The LGBT community didn’t cause a married couple to lose their bakery business in Oregon, and another “straight” couple to be forced into court in New Mexico over their photography studio? The law did. Discrimination laws.

    The president, attorney general and a host of other officials around the country may be black, but they control very little of the country.

    Putting a racial label on this countries problems is not only wrong, but inaccurate. If this country was doing so well before these positions were filled with minorities, they would not be in these positions. Also keep in mind, there were not enough black votes in America to stand alone in getting Obama in Office. White America was so fed up with Busch and the RNC, they helped get him in office.

    This article is systemic with the constant pointing fingers, and laying blame at the wrong times and people. To associate this countries problems, solely on one race or sub-set of people is an insult and naive at best. Just because there is a black face on the package does not mean the package is owned by that black face. Case in point NIKE.

    This article leaves out a lot of statistics in this countries current and past state of affairs. The average person may read this article and assume blacks lead and control this country. Therefore is the cause for most of its problems. This article is very biased. A lot of the issues covered in this article are not exclusive to blacks. Yet they are a product of their environment. Not entirely but majoritivley.

    • You make some valid, thought out points, but I disagree with others. The discrimination laws were against the Christian family as their beliefs meant nothing. The normalizing of Homosexuality by the judge or judges in America now is the motivation. You are especially misguided when you say Obama was elected because White America was so fed up with Busch and the RNC. White America is the most diversified in it’s thoughts than any ethnicity in the U.S. Some Whites wanted Obama mostly based on his race, like well over 90% of Blacks did and do. The majority of Whites… and more White males did not vote at all. They did not have a candidate that they supported. Bush was shown not to be it… and way out left leaning Obama was definitely not it. The choices of McCain and Romney is what kept them home. It was never a support for Obama.

    • I have to agree with Mr. Frazier on much of his writing, I don’t believe the article is bias. I believe the white community is not the problem as it was, yet the black community keeps the past alive and distrust is alive with “why try, I’m just a kid in the ghetto and me and my home boys will take what we want or there’s whitey lets pop the cap on him.” When I was a Platoon Sergeant my soldiers were family, my command wanted unity. we still maintain our respect and brotherhood with those that are still with us. if the military can do it the civilian community can. We have to come together and change attitudes and tell the likes of Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson to get a life.

  12. You are missing the point, LTC West. The Black population DOES have tremendous influence. They are making the situation you describe acceptable. They are forcing Whites to stand down to them by way of Affirmative Action, “hate crimes” legislation, and having the only slur that is given such careful treatment as to be known by it’s initial.
    The fact is that most in the Black community simply don’t care enough about the problems you describe to do anything. They care more about their welfare payments, crack smoking, and preying on innocents of all races to want to do what is necessary to improve the lot.
    If the Black community had the influence of the LGBT community, things would be much worse.

    • Bravo, sir. Well said! But Mr. West, I’m sure, doesn’t want to hear that. A little too much truth in your statement.

    • I agree. The Black community does not care. They only care when they feel an attack from Whites. The influence shows it’s might every time a perceived racist incident happens like the Trayvon Martin incident. Then, that Black cause will move to the front of the line in news broadcasts and Whites are to watch, be on the defensive and either side unconditionally with the perceived victims or face the wrath if you make any public comment to the opposition. Black on White crime never, ever gets that same type of play. Even when it involves hundreds of white victims, like the latest “Knock out” game barrage.

      • Even calling “Knock Out Game” a game shows the complete pandering to this point. It’s an assault. An assault that is racially motivated and therefore a hate crime.

  13. You have ‘leaders’ like Jesse and Al constantly telling the black man he can not achieve greatness due to the white man keeping them down. Blacks have glorified pimps, drugs, gangs, and angry hate-everyone mentalities droned into their heads through ghetto rap and bass-beats. Only the most beautiful can be successful through lust-driven videos and music, or sports, rather than invention or leadership and scholastic achievements.

    People, not only blacks but tremendous unspoken amounts of low income whites, have been living a “you owe me” life rather than an “I can do this” life. I see whole communities and small towns filled with whites with no ambitions, addicted to alcohol or drugs, collecting checks and making babies they can not support on their own.

    Hand outs have made dependants out of would-be achievers, fathers have passed on fatherhood, mothers are looking for love in all the wrong places, and specifically blacks who make it out of their impoverished neighborhoods alive and become successful are called ‘Uncle Toms’ buy the jealous.

    A strong black leader can not even OWN a THOUGHT that doesn’t progress the black movement of power and control rather than unity and innovation, least he be called names or discredited. Black voices are expected to speak only for blacks and never for unity or in agreement with white/other ideals. You see this on news programs ad nauseum. You can count of certain anchors to opinionate the ‘black’ view, and not the view of what is truly right or wrong regardless of color. I am not sure people know how to identify right from wrong anymore.

    People are apathetic to politics, live day to day and check to check without the ambition to put a seed in a pot and grow their own vegetables. Maybe it’s time to start handing out heirloom seeds with their access cards and subsidize potting soil and green houses.

  14. Being LGBT is not the same as being BLACK. One is a sexual preference, and the other is a racial makeup.

    Allen West and this article have taken a lot of facts out of context. Now I will agree, that the black community has a lot of faults. They also have multiple obstacles. But this does not include them all. Every race, color, religion and creed share in this countries problems. Lets see the numbers of the LGBT versus other races.

    I don’t see Allen West congratulating the LGBT community, because he despises them. His conservative values of the right condemn the whole LGBT lifestyle. I see it as a stick in the eye of the black community in America.

    Not all of us are uneducated, violent, ignorant, government dependent, needy facets of American society.

    Black communities, and its people, have had enormous hurdles to overcome for generations. They started from nothing and struggle to get something. To make a clear comparison between the two, is like comparing apples to oranges. Better yet fruit to vegetables.

    Since when does a high ranking republican, and TEA Party advocate, rally for the LGBT? For him to applaud this high school level research is beneath even him. Tell the writer to scrap the article and retry.

    I’m not gay, but I am black. I find the article biased and full of loaded rhetorical questions.

    • Your mistake is assuming ALL conservatives are against gays. You can be conservative and still embrace all that is good and productive about any human being. In fact it really is about being productive members of society and much less ‘taking’ by unproductive members of society, regardless of skin color, or sexual preference.

      • “Not all of us are uneducated, violent, ignorant, government dependent, needy facets of American society.”
        And until you stand up and demand excellence from your own community you will continue to bear the burdens of those who do not.
        Conservatives are tired of being forced to pay for ALL of them, (white, black or blue) and tired of seeing them encouraged to continue to drain our country and working class of all that is earned through our efforts.

      • What’s going on is bigger than just “conservatives” paying for everyone (because the last time I checked the biggest “takers” in the welfare system are red states…) because when you look at what’s going on with the economies in cities like Detroit it’s not so much that people don’t want to work it’s that the jobs are being taken out of the US so that the so-called job creators can bigger profit returns by going to countries where they pay their workers peanuts. All of this is done because they don’t want to pay American workers a living wage. The so-called “job creators” want their profits ever higher each year but don’t want to riase the wages of their workers… How does that make sense in any logical fashion?

      • Why don’t you run for public office. i am sure you would have votes of conservativephobes.

      • I’m still in the military at the moment and am precluded from holding public office. But after I retire, who knows 🙂

    • I think you missed the point. He is not stupid. He would never write an article like that. He said that he wishes the Black community could come together with the power of LGBT community. He has a compassionate heart. He has not separated from the care of each other which has cemented us together for over a million years. He wants the Black community to change to alleviate the pain they are experiencing. I feel the same and I back him on everything in this article.

    • Suggestion: Search for CFR and media bias.

      I think you are intelligent and a good writer. Also, I admire the way you examine multiple criteria. But I wonder if you know about the CFR. If you are not familiar with it, I think you would be interested.

  15. I’m neither uneducated nor ignorant, but quite capable of understanding that when such a small percentage of the population suffer from a condition (homosexuality) that said condition is an anomoly, and is outside the parameters of normal human behavior.

  16. Growing up my main role model was my father. Granted I didn’t follow in his footsteps as a farmer, but I did emulate his work ethic. I also was exposed to other farm hands that showed me what it means to work hard for a living. As a child, I knew no one personally who was on welfare or on any form of public assistance. Those I did interact with would talk badly about those did. Everyone I knew considered anyone who needed public assistance any longer than a brief period as lazy.

    I am not black. But I can see clearly what the issue for the black community is. It is the lack of positive role models and fathers in the home. What does it say to
    an impressionable teen when they never knew their father? What affect does it have on black teens when the most successful people they see in the neighborhood (driving a Cadillac Escalade, lots of jewelry, others looking up to them) are drug dealers. How can a part-time father influence his son to stay in school and be a good father when they didn’t graduate, and they obviously aren’t there every night at the dinner table? How can Black Leaders such as yourself compete with the image portrayed by rap singers and sports atheletes who want to dress like gang members?

    Seriously, do you know where the pants saggin’ style came from? It came from ex-cons because their pants would sag in prison because they weren’t allowed belts. THAT’S WHO BLACK YOUTH DRESS LIKE, EX-CONS.

    Other leaders actually in the communities doing the daily grind are religious leaders trying desperately to reach black teens. But honestly, they dress in thrift shop
    clothing, and drive beater cars. They are constantly disrespected and made fun of [how many times has anyone seen someone make fun of a drug dealer or gangster…. And not get the crap beat out of them or shot]. Does anyone really
    expect a teenager of any color/ethnic background/religion to listen very much…
    and when they do; are they going to listen to the unpopular preacher dressed in
    rags? Or are they going to listen to the popular sharply dressed young black man driving the tricked out G6 whom everyone seems to respect?

    Solution: #1 quit having children out of wedlock. #2 if you end up in divorce, be a daily presence in your son’s life. #3 call out Black Leaders who set a bad example. Tell that basketball player to pull up his pants and quit trying to act like a thug. Also call on Black Leaders like Jackson and Sharpton to quit stoking the racial tensions for personal profit, and get to the root of issues and to encourage black youth. #4 public assistance shouldn’t be viewed as something one is entitled to, but as something only resorts to in extreme circumstances and only for a brief time until you get back on your feet. This whole idea of extended unemployment for two and a half years is absurd. That’s a college degree or an apprenticeship in something you can get a job in.

    The image of the successful black male should be someone who earned their job due to education or training. Goes to work daily and is either preparing a savings for a future wife or is faithful to the one he has and is there for his children. Seriously, do a google search for successful African Americans and except for Obama (don’t get me started) and Oprah (influential, but who can relate to Oprah rich) and all you get are people >half century ago or rap singers and athletes. This is the image the black community needs to fix. You need modern, men/women that impressionable youth can look up to and say to themselves, “I want to be like that, how do I earn that”. Not “I’m gonna get me mine”

    • We need an organized method of recalling all the rogues in congress. There is a work in progress to give this to the states. A few states have weak laws on recalling elected people. If all 50 states participate in this, we will give the right back to the people and this will take care of the problem.

      Fathers and mothers are of paramount importance. I agree with you. I love your post.

  17. Excellent article! The black president and black attorney general that are fighting against school choice/vouchers programs are actually doing us a favor. PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE – before you continue to push for school choice/charter/vouchers you must read Part 1 & 2 of Anita Hoge’s THE COMMON CORE FACE-OFF: HIDING THE TRUTH ABOUT CHOICE AND CHARTER SCHOOLS. She brilliantly lays out the master plan. http://www.newswithviews.com/Hoge/anita108.htm and http://www.newswithviews.com/Hoge/anita109.htm

  18. Obama ran and won on a campaign of “YES WE CAN”. People wanted hope, they had the desire to achieve and prosper on their own.
    Obama sold the dream and gave them a life living in Mom and Dad’s basement sipping hot chocolate (more like luke-warm water) and collecting checks, and now the offer of not only not raising your own children properly with ambition and dreams, but now making money by being parents to illegal children, and being accessories to harboring illegals in your home, making you a criminal and traitor to our country in exchange for Obama child support payments.
    What a fraud.

    • obama is the worst president ever and the biggest presidential liar ever. his supporters fit in a league of their own since they seem to not have a problem with his lies. Someone in another article somewhere, made a reference to this being connected by a common denominator which is a psychopathic disorder.

  19. Well they are very well healed, a lot of money and since a bunch of them gravitate to the entertainment industry and education, they have influence way beyond their true numbers! There is going to be a back lash and its not going to be pretty!

  20. The reason could possibly be that 97% of blacks vote left. Since there is such a push for gays, the democrats are trying to get their votes as well.

  21. This is very easy to answer. Everyone is trying to capture the vote of the 1.6%. Everyone knows who the 13% are going to vote for. During the election in 2000, the president of the NAACP in Oakland said that democrats tak advantage of the black vote. They just expect it.

  22. Allen, you are missing the point. The president and Holder DON”T CARE about black folks except as to how they can use them. Additionally, the government only makes problems worse, never better. The only thing that can turn around the mire that too many black people find themselves in is BLACK PEOPLE AS INDIVIDUALS!!!!! I refuse the term “community” as it implies that all people of a demographic group ALL think the same.

      • Maybe if some of us stop treating each black individual as part of some amalgamated “community” then we might change that pattern of behavior. Are we not just perpetuating the problem otherwise. Like I have said before, “We can’t end racism with racism.” We can’t get individuals to stand up and change the attitudes until we see them as individuals.

      • So we can ALL have a good laugh at the attempt????

        Can you get to the point of not putting 100% of people in a wrong category? 100% of the people are not going to be laughing at the attempt. This deflates your ridicule. I am sure you could get cheers from peers over this. I am amazed you came out with a comment like this on a site dominated with supporters for West.

      • Well by all I meant all of the liberals and progressives in the US. There’s no candidate the republicans can put forward who can win. The least disgusting character they have is Romney and we all know what happens when he runs, lol. Face it, conservatives will not be getting their hooks back into the White House for the next 8-12 years. And once progressives wake up to what’s been going on with the state and local elections you guys can hang those up too. There are more liberals/progresives than conservatives. It’s just a matter of getting them to go down and vote. We’ll be doing much more of that now, voting rights act or no VRA.

      • We don’t have much going for us right now. It is like fighting through a dense jungle to try to figure out who is operating for billionaire oligarchy bastards and who is for constituents. There are a lot of corrupt politicians to identify and weed out. I will be seeking out who ever seems trust worthy and who follows the constitution and has the ability to lead.

  23. My partial answer to the problem: Organize battalions of Catholic nuns to run the public schools. Let them enforce discipline and engage the families in their children’s education. The goal is to start producing well educated, disciplined members of the black community who will pass on the tradition to their children. You’re not going to change the culture simply by more representation in Washington. Single parent families and specifically, black men who spread their genes but not their commitment, are not going away any time soon regardless who the leaders are. Start change with the kids in school. And I’m not joking about the Catholic nuns.

  24. This can all be related directly to our rebellion towards God. We no longer raise our children with godly values, we embrace and emulate everthing that is against God, so our world is being overun by our godless nature! As humans, we have to believe in something, if we abandon our belief in God then something has to replace that belief… and it looks like it is our own evil willfulness and selfish desires that have taken over our world and our hearts!

  25. Maybe it’s just because the LGBT community speaks with one voice. They wont sell each other out. There isn’t a class of conservative gay people calling the liberal ones siners, or takers, or welfare cases. You don’t hear them call each-other “gay-baiters” or “gay-hustlers”. They are used to be marginalized so you can’t convince them to vote against their own interests. And they wont undermind each-other. LGBT are kind of all in the same boat, and act like unlike black people. There are some fiscally conservatives gay people they still wont vote for the party that treats them like dirt. And unlike black people LGBT are not saddled with children, that’s more money and time to devote to political causes. Just a thought.

    • GLBT community has sold out the transgender community for years. I know people that are transgender and you have removed job protection for them from ENDA for years.

    • And maybe it is because obama is making a big issue of this. Without him, I imagine the movement would be dead.

  26. The point that nimrods like yourself miss entirely, west, is that the homosexual community isn’t asking for special treatment like, I don’t know: allowing a bigot to discriminate against others based on their “religious beliefs” (the Klan must be loving that one.) They’re only asking for equal rights like everyone else. If the entitlement class conservatives weren’t so obtuse they’d be able to see this, but myopia has ever been a cornerstone of conservatism. We’ll have to drag the conservatives kicking and screaming lie children into the future the same way we always have to, but we’ll get there.

    • He said that the 1.6% have leadership, focus and unity. He said the African American 13% are not as effective at organizing while they are facing severe problems. The objective is try to render aid to the families and youth. The article is to promote thought among intelligent people who would like to better the world.

      You seem to have the ability to rally people together who get angry and band together. I am sure you would receive cheers from peers on dragging conservatives like screaming children. I am dropping your comment into oblivion because there are more important things to deal with. Suggestion: Read the article again and try to understand and focus on the key points of the article.

      • Thank you! Yes the whole point of the article is a need for a voice truly speaking out for the black community. A few months ago Allen stated there is no place more conservative than a black church on Sunday. Amen to that, the sense of community in most black churches is incredible. Too many loud voices in the community treat blacks like victims and stir up division. I’m tired of hearing about racism and I absolutely deplore diversity training in the military, healthcare and corporate world. We need to follow the message of those like Booker T Washington.

      • I really admire the deep rooted spirituality I see in a lot of Blacks. I see it more in Black people than other races. I realize there are some people of any given group which may have negative traits or even psychopathic behavior. It is just that there have been too many times that I have seen Black people show deep respect or compassion. I call it the way I see it. Thank you for your comment!

      • Diversity is a good thing. Can’t know where you’re going if you forget where you came from. Diversity training in the military has been a very good thing. What are your reasons for hating it? Because I can tell you from a leader’s standpoint: knowing your Soldiers is never a bad thing and can help you connect with them and edge them into greatness.

      • No he’s just whining and pushing idiotic right wing talking points and attempting to get the black community to follow the rest of the Tea-Qaeda derps in voting against their own interests. He doesn’t want effective leadership in the black community, he wants a pied piper to lead us off the cliff that is voting for conservatives.

        The black community needs to wake up and pay attention to politics and especially state and local elections because that is where Tea-Qaeda/Y’all-Qaeda influence is gathering because they know they won’t e win the Presidency for the next eight years, if ever.

        When I get out of the military maybe I’ll look into public office so I can help keep feebs like west from leading people down the wrong path.

      • Wow and your hero Obama is doing such a great job. Under his leadership racial tensions are the highest in decades, more people have dropped out of the workforce than since the great depression(percentage wise), US debt is at all time highs, he has made the USA a joke on the world stage, he has broken more laws as a president than Nixon did in his entire life. Yeah we are so much better off, better get ready to stand in the welfare line when you get out because we have no jobs and he is wanting to give 30 million illegals amnesty and citizenship furthering the problem along with creating even more issues for the national debt to pay for them because most have no skills and will land on welfare,

        So yeah the dumbocrat in charge the last 5 years has really helped the country, into a great depression, into no southern border, into having no allies left due to his bumbling decisions on world issues…

        IMPEACH OBAMA

      • There’s only one reason why racial tensions are higher: it’s called the ignorant vocal minority of the Tea-Qaeda insurgents. President Obama isn’t going around making racist screeds. All of that belongs to Y’all-Qaeda.

        Had bush not a.) gone into Iraq for no reason other than pride and b.) not paid for the wars by borrowing money from China we wouldn’t be in nearly as much debt as we are, lol. But you don’t see that bit. Bush ruined America’s image on the world stage. He and all of his moron ‘muricun supporters, lol. American exceptionalism is a ridiculous poison but the ones taking it all in are simply too dumb to realize it. President Obama is actually making me proud to be an American again, because no one should be proud of anything done during the bush years.

        I think President Obama is doing a grand job cleaning up the mess the republicans left him and he’s done it without having to mire us in two wars to create a “contractor” industry. As far as my employment prospects go when I get out: I’m sure I’ll have a job lined up before I retire otherwise I’d be a bit of a moron and there are plenty of jobs to be found out there you just have to look and be willing to go to where the money is.

        Xenophobic, ignorant, low-information conservatives are what is ruining this country today. Not immigrants.

      • So Obama and holder blathering about the Zimmerman case helped racial harmony? Holder refusing to investigate the black panthers who were holding clubs in front of voting places helped racial harmony? Statement after statement promoting racial division by Obama and Holder promote racial harmony?

        Keep your nose in your mug of liberal koolaid. And I hate to break the news to you but the tea party is not racist, it has many minority members who are as fed up with Obama as the rest of us. Some very prominent ones. Ben Carson for example.

      • Ben Carson, lol. He’s a joke. He’ll go nowhere and do nothing in politics.

        So you’re blaming President Obama and AG Holder for zimmerman stalking and killing a teenager simply because he was black and in the wrong neighborhood? That’s mighty conservative of you to blame the victim and any of his advocates but we’re used to that. I have yet to see an instance of Y’all-Qaeda promoting any kind of racial harmony, lol.

        I hate to break it to you but people say the NBPP isn’t racist either but most anyone who knows about them knows different. I love it when Tea-Qaeda feels the need to tout their handful of “open in case of emergency” minorities but it’s not convinving anyone. It’s not your lack (or perceived lack) of anyone not white that paints your party. It’s the antics and actions of your your party that paints it that way.

      • Do you think your comment is going to succeed in disrupting cyberspace on this site? I find it totally dismissive. Do you think anyone is going to buy into you representing a bunch of people who think West is an idiot. I laughed at what you said about Tea-Qaeda. You need to go somewhere that you can get cheers from your peers. Your disruption here is small. Your entire first paragraph is the opposite of what is true. West has intelligent followers and no one who supports him believes this. In my way of thinking, you and your comment is of no more than the smallest grain of sand in the entire milky way galaxy. Surely you didn’t think you would gain a multitude of supporters with your comment.

      • I’m not looking for supporters, lol. I simply don’t agree with letting someone use their military background to peddle ignorance and bigotry. Judging by the comments I’m reading from his supporters my analysis of them isn’t far off.

    • So much for America being a free country, having free speech and all that crap. Kicking and screaming? Really? Who sounds like a fascist now? That is why liberalism is bad for societies because in the end it will always have a totalitarian bent.

      • So the Civil Rights Movement should have never happened, according to your logic. Labor laws, women’s suffrage, etc are anathema to you because of the portions of our society who didn’t want any of that to come forth. It’s not as if the conservatives who wanted things to remain the way they were came holding hands with those they opposed. They had to be dragged kicking and screaming the entire way. That’s the way it always for conservatives in the US. They can’t accept equality for all. The only people who deserve any rights are people like them. Face it, conservatives have always been on the wrong side of history. Always. Sucks for your ideology, but it’s an apt observation.

        If liberals/progressives were being totalitarian we’d be saying you all have to be liberals/progressives. No one is saying that. You simply have to give everyone the same respect and equality that you want for yourself. You don’t have to like anyone. There are very few conservatives I meet online that I can say I like, lol, but you are free to be whatever you want to be and it doesn’t bother me. I have no problem with conservatives being conservatives. The problem begins when conservatives use their belief system to deny equality to other people.

  27. If people are straight, no one cares or wants to know.
    If people are gay, no one cares or wants to know.
    Keep it at home! Don’t peddle it like a preferred lifestyle.
    You don’t want specifically straight parades and we don’t want specifically gay parades.
    Just live your lives and quit pushing the GLBT lifestyles on others.
    What your preference is is “your” business!
    Quit pushing others to accept GLBT lifestyle they don’t believe in.
    I don’t push straight lifestyle on the GLBT’s!

    • But when you say that we shouldn’t have the right to love who we love (e.g. with sodomy laws, which the gay rights movement was instrumental in overturning), manipulating the machinery of state to deny us equal protection of law (by saying that your straight relationship deserves legal benefits but ours do not), and seek to exclude us from public accommodations, you are very much pushing your lifestyle on us.

      We’re loud and in your face about it because if we weren’t, we would never have equal rights.

      And I know you’re going to say something to the effect of “well you don’t deserve equal rights for reason x” (just as conservatives of the 1960s said to black Americans). Fortunately, we live in a world where voices like that have consistently lost the argument.

      • I don’t care who or what you love! Don’t lie by saying something I did not say! You are part of the problem. Quit pushing your agenda on me! You have no idea what my beliefs are. I might even be part of the LGBT, but am quiet as I live the life I wish in peace & quiet. I’m just sick of everything being about LGBT when there are really serious problems around!

        What “public accommodations” are you talking about? If you are living your lifestyle properly as a male or female, you can use the correct facility you identify publicly with. I know transgenders that fit in perfectly and use the proper facilities of their new identity with anonymity! That is equal rights!

        I call anyone that has to shout out their sexuality as deviant due to their sexual identity the only thing that consumes their lives! That is sick! Live a normal life and just don’t be a pedophile! No one will care or stop you!

      • There’s more to it than that. For instance, when we see a heterosexual couple holding hands or kissing in public we don’t complain about them “pushing their lifestyle on us”.

        I should be able to do the same with my boyfriend without being publicly shamed and without it being construed as me “pushing my lifestyle” on you.

        It is that simple.

      • Go for it because guess what? 90% of the people out there are to involved in their own life and problems to even notice.

      • Really? I have been asked by a stranger in public to stop even seemingly benign things like holding hands with my boyfriend on numerous occasions, once even in Ann Arbor of all places and that was for giving him a peck on the cheek while sitting on a park bench.

        Care to try again?

      • Seems like you had ONE person that was a busybody and not minding their own business, and you automatically label everyone in the same basket! You have a lot of issues.

        And yes, the African American community needs to really stand up a lot more than the LGBT community! Even the LGBT African Americans!

      • You missed the part where I’ve had incidents like that happen probably about a dozen times over the course of my life.

      • There are proper places for certain things. Pecks on the cheek are not uncommon anywhere for any gender. i did not miss it. You are making a huge issue out of nothing. Just move on. Live your life and be decent in decent places. Nobody will care in the long run!

      • A whole dozen times in your life… so 12 people out of thousands you have probably been around. Pretty low percentage and there are always busy bodies who think they need to rule everyone’s lives. Here in town we have a little old lady who is the lawn nazi, she drive around with a ruler to measure how tall your grass is and then complains to the city if it doesn’t meet her standards. Sorry I am not a golf course, when it is dry and drought conditions longer grass survives better.

      • Fair, but you’re missing my broader point. My point was that as long as the act of loving another person is considered a political or offensive statement, gay rights is still in need of fighting for.

      • Boo hoo, and cry me a river. 40 years ago when I married outside my race both my husband and I took a lot of flak from people, but we didn’t let it stop us. We had four great kids, and I have a dozen grandkids out of it. I’m glad I spent my life doing more constructive things than whining about how tough life was for us. Homosexuals are not the only ones who have to put up with rude people. You have the option of telling people to buzz off and then go on with your life. I don’t know what you expect everyone to do for you. Sounds like you need to put on your man pants and deal with life, it ain’t easy for any of us, I can guarantee it.

      • And society changed and grew to accept you. There was a time, shortly before that, in many states when the law would not have allowed you to marry the person you loved either, but the laws were recognized to be arbitrarily discriminatory and so the laws were changed.

        How ironic that you’re dead-set against granting me the same courtesy.

      • They did it WITHOUT the pride parades and the organizations or courts to hide behind too!!!! You have no idea about life yet.

      • I wasn’t alive in the 50’s and 60’s, but I do seem to recall reading about a lot of marches, protests, sit-ins, political organizations, and impassioned rhetoric surrounding the issue at the time.

      • You are not telling my anything I do not already know, however you are wrong about society ‘changing to accept’ interracial marriages. There are still many who vocally oppose it, from all races. One more thing, moron. Where did I say I was ‘dead set against’ giving you the same courtesy? You can do whatever you flakkin’ want, just don’t wait around for me to celebrate it. Live your life and let everyone else live theirs. Stop expecting the world to stop turning for you every time you don’t get everything you want. Where is it written down that homosexuals must win every battle, as if no one else counted?

      • Very good points, DixieAngel_76 !! Thank you for your input.
        These coddled idiots have no real idea of discrimination!

      • You’re right racial prejudice and prejudice against interracial marriages does still exist. And I speak out loudly against that too. But the reason that it is not nearly as widespread as it was before is because of people speaking out against in when they encountered it.

        I don’t care if I can’t change your mind. But when you voice your views publicly, I can and will voice my disagreement.

      • You’re using intelligence and facts. They don’t understand either of those concepts very well, if at all.

      • We are all one part of a great whole. I also have a problem with those who think the world revolves around them individually. There are some psychiatric names which apply to similar behaviors in regard to those individuals who place themselves above others and game play on control dramas.

      • Conservatives have to be dragged kicking and screaming the entire way into social progression. But as the world becomes more educated and more enlightened the dinosaurs will continue to die out until there aren’t enough of them left to change a lightbulb.

      • Interesting. When someone feels different from you, you prescribe dragging them off kicking and screaming. I know of a site you may enjoy and appreciate. Search for liberal logic 101.

      • Then fight it in the legislature, if you think a parade of half naked people helps your cause with conservatives you are nuts. Lobby just like the rest of us do to get laws changed.

      • So, are you saying that when an adult homosexual has a “loving relationship” with a juvenile, pedophilia is perfectly all right? Do you believe that it is also all right for an adult to marry a child? I see there is the start of a big push now to legalize pedophilia. What’s next? Bestiality? Necrophilia? Why is it that some deviant sexual behaviors are legitimately considered repulsive by the majority of folks, but other deviant sexual behaviors are being forced on a huge majority of people because after thousands of years, suddenly the behavior is deemed by a few to be something they should be proud of and “celebrate” by forcing it on others. Frankly, I believe bestiality and necrophilia (among other deviant behaviors) are repulsive, and the fact is, it disgusts me to see male actors on a soap opera kissing and dancing with each other. Fortunately, I was able to change the channel when I saw that on TV the other day, but when Disney World has a “gay day” set aside, and you happen to unwittingly show up at Disney World with your grandchildren on that day, and the site of homosexuals dressing and acting provacatively, openly swapping spit, and all the other inappropriate public behaviors I do not want my grandchildren to see become impossible to disregard, I consider that extremely poor taste. Nonetheless, that sort of behavior seems to go on anywhere there is a “gay pride” event.

      • I have had incidents of people ridiculing me. We live in a bully society. Ask just about anyone about this if they were bullied in school. Watch them transform when they re live what happened. You are in the same boat as all who were bullied for a lot of different sick reasons. Maybe you can try to figure out some different way to think about this so that you don’t feel so frustrated. That is what some of the rest of us do over bullying.

      • Although, I do agree that the African American community as a whole would probably benefit from being more outspoken.

      • So what? Ever hear the term ‘get a room’ being hurled at heteros for swapping spit? Get over it and get a room.

      • your logic condemns an entire group because of one individual? That is really interesting.

      • I see that all of the time and don’t give a crap!
        You are making a mountain out of an pissy ant hill!

      • Let’s go with another example. Say my boss invites me to a party at his house and all of my co-workers are encouraged to bring their families along. Should my employer’s religious views give him the right to fire me if I bring my boyfriend along?

      • Has that actually happened, or are you just blowing hot air? And assuming it has, did you go to court? And assuming you did, what is the case number, city and date; and what was the outcome? And to answer your question, I think that if you knowingly bring a homosexual partner into your boss’s home if you know he or she thinks homosexuality to be a sin, you are rude and insensitive. It’s one thing to be open about your lifestyle at work, where there are laws against discrimination, but even the dumbest and most misguided usually wouldn’t think they could go into someone else’s home and deliberately insult their religious beliefs. If you did that then you don’t deserve any sympathy, and you certainly won’t get any from me.

      • It has not happened to me personally, I am very fortunate in that regard. But in most states, it is legal for a private employer to fire somebody over being gay and it does happen all too frequently.

      • I call BS on that one. When people are sued into bankruptcy for simply declining to bake a cake for a homosexual ‘wedding’ or to take pictures of the same I doubt very much that anybody could get away with firing someone for being openly homosexual. Lots of people are fired for things they can’t control, like getting sick, getting old, or injured on the job, you name it, and it happens far more often than anyone getting fired for their sexual preferences, which by the way, no one would know about if you didn’t flaunt it.

      • Bullchit! Show me a law the SPECIFICALLY says you can be fired for your sexual preference. Stop lying.

      • Are you serious?! What do you think…..none of us ever watch/read the news about bakers who are unwilling to bake a “wedding” cake for a homosexual couple, and are then taken to court of it, and have had to close down their business as a result of the “discrimination” ruling? What about men who are now allowed to go into women’s dressing rooms or bathrooms because they allege they are “women trapped in a man’s body”, or some nonsense like that? What about LGBT types who want to dress u and act like members of the opposite gender when they obviously aren’t, and their employers claim that that sort of activity “casts a bad light on the company” but an activist judge finds otherwise? What about the fact that insulting a person who claims to be LGBT is considered “hate speech” or a “hate crime”, and the perpetrator has Federal charges filed against them? LGBTs do not seem to concern themselves with matters of “good taste”, “community standards”, etc. when they “act out” in order to gain public attention or “make a statement”. What about the NAMBLA homosexuals who want having sex with children to be legalized? Should the 97% of us who are heterosexual “embrace” that perversion too?

      • It’s only absurd to someone who is already predisposed to discriminating against them. And comparing homosexuality to pedophilia is no different than the mainstream view that most redneck conservatives also practice incest, amirite?

      • I think you are making good debate.

        A lot of people seem to treat the LGBT community like mistreated saints. Check: Some of this 1.6% seems to be making the news also as pedophiles and AIDs spreaders.

        I am getting sick of the victims rant out of some of these people. I don’t ever hear of them talking about the importance of family. Most of what I hear is about them being mistreated victims. I will give them more respect if they will speak out for families and stop doing the me, me, me drama.

      • No it is not ‘that simple’. Unfortunately, the gay lobby is working hard to infiltrate groups where they aren’t welcome ( like the Boy Scouts) and Churches. No matter what your beliefs are, they do NOT trump the rights of parents who don’t want their kids around people they choose not to associate with. Everyone has that right, but homosexuals want to deny others the same rights that they cherish for themselves. Go ahead and hold hands and kiss your ‘boyfriend’ in front of my grand children. When they ask me about it, I will tell them my honest opinion of it, just the same as you tell everyone who will listen how you disparage anyone who doesn’t approve of your sexual preferences. We should all have the same rights, not just homosexuals.

      • You’re saying that a group of people speaking out against discrimination is somehow impinging on your rights.

        Sorry, it doesn’t work that way. You’re entitled to your opinion, and you may voice it freely and, although we might disgree, I would happily die to defend your right to do that. But so am I, and I will speak out against institutional discrimination against any minority, LGBT, black, or whatever group is the object of it.

        And if those institutions decide to change their discriminatory policies in response to people like me speaking their minds, you will still have all of the same rights you had before.

      • Go back and read my post again, pea brain. I am saying that MY opinion is just as important to me as yours is to you, and we BOTH have a right to think as we choose, but NO ONE has the right to legally shut someone up because they don’t like what that person says, and NOWHERE in my post did I say that you didn’t have the right to ‘speak your mind’ about anything. What I said was that far too many homosexuals seem not to care about the collateral damage they cause to others in order to feel validated. And I will say it again; NOBODY has the right to interfere in someone else’s parent-child relationship, unless you can prove that a child is being abused, and I’m sorry, seeking to keep one’s kids from being mentally damaged by having them prematurely exposed to sexual information that they are not ready for does not qualify.

      • True. Instead what you folks do is pressure people because of THEIR beliefs if their POV runs counter to yours. Mozilla CEO for example. Hypocrites.

      • The mozilla CEO didn’t have to resign. He embarrassed himself and his company with his ignorant beliefs. Your beliefs are your beliefs and as long as you keep them private you can do as you please. But when your business is dealing with the public (as retail does) and you expose your ignorant beliefs then you have to be prepared to deal with the ire from the public that you peddle your products to.

        I used to love the food at Chick-fil-A until I found out they were run by religious bigots. Since that story broke and I found out, I haven’t eaten there since, I don’t allow my family to eat there, and I let all of my friends and family know. Is my little boycott doing anything to their bottom line? Probably not, but I’m content in the fact that I’m not contributing to an organization that I consider as distasteful as the Klan. Besides, KFC makes everything CFA does just without the hate and bigotry.

      • [[ The mozilla CEO didn’t have to resign. He embarrassed himself and his company with his ignorant beliefs]]

        Which were the same as Obama’s and Hillary’s during the same time period. And only a pure and entrenched pole smoker believes
        that hetero marriage is ‘ignorant’, Wipe the Obama off your lips.

        All you perverse sperm-burpers love freedom of speech unless they call you deviants out for what you are. The ignorance is in your mirror freak. Understand that we do not have to accept your perversion no matter how hard you attack us for our POV.

      • I’m not homosexual, lol. I have plenty of friends who are. I’ve come across far more homosexual Soldiers who I’d much rather have fighting at my side than some ignorant redneck, lol. I accept people for who they are. I may not like ignorant conservatives but there are some in the military. I still work with them because I have to but that doesn’t mean I have to invite them to my house. The same thing can be said about homosexuality. You don’t have to like it to respect a person for who they are and not be an @$$hole, lol. I may not like you POV but it’s yours to have. That doesn’t ever mean I have to invite you to my home or even speak to you if you’re my neighbor. But I won’t go out of my way to discriminate against you or cause you any undue harm simply because of what I feel about your belief system.

      • Cut the crap pal. You accept those who think like YOU do. You sure as hell don’t accept me or anyone who thinks like me. So get over it since that cuts both ways. Learn to practice what you preach. You decided to step into this debate and respond to me, even though I never posted to you, because you do not accept what I say as exhibited by your terminology i.e, ‘redneck’, ‘ignorant’. So how are YOU different than those who you call ‘ignorant’ because they disagree with you? .

      • I may not agree with your belief system, but I’m not drafting legislation to keep you from voting or to deny you the civil rights that should be afforded to everyone. I don’t have to like you or your Taliban-like belief structure to allow you to do as you want. I work with many people like you everyday in the military. Work is work, my co-workers know my mindset and I know theirs. No one forces us to hang out after work but that’s called being a professional. I’m not going around trying to get them relieved of duty or any other adverse actions because they keep their personal beliefs out of work just as I do.

        I’m different in that I don’t discriminate against people who are different than I am. It’s a hard concept for conservatives to grasp but no one loses anything by granting equality to others. You’re still the same person you were.

      • [[ I don’t have to like you or your Taliban-like belief structure ]]

        And we don’t have to like you butt-bumping freaks either. How’s that? If you want to be nasty, fine. All that does is make MY point. All your ‘in-your-face’ approach does is alienate anyone who may otherwise sympathize with you. No one likes to be harassed with your sexuality issues. Life sucks when you try to demand people accept you. It doesn’t work.

      • These “people” are no longer worth replying to. They have a full blown hissy-fit if anyone stands up for them or against them. They each want their own podium. They can’t accept they really are treated equally in 99% of the areas in the USA. They are hypocrites and would kill each other if they could get ahead by doing so. I was on the board of the HIV/Aids center here. When I gave all I could and they just kept demanding more, I had enough! I’ve never seen such a lower breed of life than many of the LGBT people. Even Veterans that have been treated worse still have pride and honor. The LGBT I have seen take & keep taking, trying to bleed everyone dry. Yes, there are good members of the LGBT group and I know many of them. I’ve had a trans-girlfriend. Many are great. However, the keyboard wimps here are just out to cause trouble and be jerks because of the anonymity and to waste good people’s time. I am no longer “Pro” LGBT because they have equal rights now for the most part. As long as 2 people can live together happily, no one really cares. It is where they think they are better than anyone else. That is what is wrong! I am finished. This article was about African Americans. At least the GOOD LGBT support Allen West and our Veterans!

      • These folks suffer from a guilty conscience. They know that something is wrong with their behavior otherwise why get upset and angry over what someone else thinks of you? Why the need to try and force others to accept you?

      • [[ But so am I, and I will speak out against institutional discrimination against any minority,]]

        Why just ‘any minority’? How about defending the rights of ALL including the rights of heteros to protest the gay inculcation of society as they see it? Yours is not the only POV here. You seem to have a twisted idea of what fairness is when it comes to protest. It’s not just about you.

      • Don’t minimize reality here. You and you ilk do more than PDA when it comes to putting your sexuality in our face. You DEMAND that straights accept you. And you’re vociferous and angry about it. Listen real closely. I do not have to accept anything. If something bothers me, I ignore it. And I’d appreciate if you did likewise. Stay out of my face with your business and I’ll stay far away from you. See how that works?

      • Publically shamed for kissing in public? Where do you live? I ask that b/c if we are being honest, no matter where you are there are going to be people who have an issue with you. Whether you are gay, straight, fat, black, white, or an interracial couple. Do you think that a black man and white woman have no issues kissing or showing PDA?? Does that mean that all interracial couples should unite and force laws to change to “include” their “lifestyle”?? No, it does not and it certainly does not mean that entire businesses should shut down because of it, either! There are people who disagree with you kissing your boyfriend in public and behind closed doors. So what?? Is that going to stop you? Let’s talk about the real issues already, and it is definitely NOT kissing in public!

      • The kissing in public was a bad example, I wanted to go with something banal and that seemed appropriate.

        How about the time in college when I was jumped by three drunk frat boys outside of a party because they thought my voice sounded gay?

        For all their tough-guy talk, it was very entertaining to watch them scatter when I hit back. But, then again, most prejudice is driven by fear, so it shouldn’t be surprising that they turned out to be cowards.

        As for the interracial couples, they actually did have to pull together and organize to change to law in order to get married. Around the same time, public accommodations laws went into effect which do make it illegal for a baker who opens his door to the public to refuse to bake a cake for an interracial couple.

      • The fact that you consider homosexuality a “deviance” pretty much sinks any notion that you are LGBT… IJS. If you’re going to lie at least make it believeable.

      • LGBT is a deviance from the norm. If LGBT were the prevailing way of life, then heterosexual would be the deviance from the norm. I don’t have to lie, I have the truth on my side!

      • Deviance from your norm. Bigotry is a deviance from a normal logical equality-based society, so there’s that. You have your opinion and your belief on your side. Both of which are your right to maintain but not your right to discriminate against others with.

      • I don’t discriminate except against those thinking they are better than others when we are all human. The deviance factor is the truth! I don’t discriminate against them, though. My trans g/f told me to not bother with a perversion case like yours. So I am going! Enjoy your coming heart attacks or whatever diseases you get from being so stressed out sitting on your pity-pot! End-trans!

      • lmao, I’m sure. My conservative friend (who hapens to be in Y’all-Qaeda) said it’s a general tactic of right wingers to claim association with [insert_minority_category_here] to try and lend credibility to whatever spiel they’re attempting to put forward.

        No stress here as I’m perfectly secure with my life but you do keep replying as if you have something to prove…

      • Actually, I wish the LGBT movement would dry up and move away! I’m heterosexual, conservative and white! A minority that uneducated hate! You do sound full of stress! I’ve got a great life with friends from all over. I am single now as my “LGBT” friend was emotionally unstable as most in that community unfortunately are. I will let you keep ranting about whatever you are ranting about, confusing as it is. Good luck with your mission, whatever it is. This is the end of my conversation with you. I have a life to live!

      • Have fun! My time will be spent preparing for Hillary to take the oath of office in 2016 🙂

      • That’s really all conservatives have, lol. A tragedy that couldn’t be prevented. So every liberal should blame bush (who sat like a stump after he was told a plane had been crashed into the WTC) for the tragedy of 9/11? That’s pretty much what you’re doing, but IOKIYAR 🙂

        Call her what you want, just as long as you remember to call her “Madame President” in 2016 🙂

        I thought you had “a great life to go out and live” lol.

      • Came inside to cool off! Hot outside!
        If the Benghazi Butcher Hildebeast is elected, I will respectfully call her, “My Damn President” which is proper from my point of view! She is just another power & money grubbing politician! She never spoke out in favor of Veterans when Obozo blocked them out of the Memorial in D.C. She is a loose cannon looking for more power. Bill Clinton’s yearly stipend of around $180k/year is not enough for them to live on! I never hear her speaking out for the veterans! She is white trash, IMHO!

        The Veterans deserve more than the illegal aliens, Period!
        Ship all of the illegal aliens out of the country NOW!

      • “We’re loud and in your face about it because if we weren’t, we would never have equal rights.”

        That is exactly WHY the straights fight against laws giving equal rights. You want laws lobby congress like the rest of us do, don’t see me out there marching to get every law passed that I care about. Instead I write my congressman, letters to the editor of local papers makes a difference, take the battle to social media.

        But parades with mostly naked people are a turn off for the straight and religious community. You are going against common decency at times and that is why you fail! They reinforce the view that GLBT people are sexual deviants instead of everyday normal people who work, pay taxes etc.

      • LMMFAO! Did you actually just admist that conservatives do fight against laws giving equal rights? Well, at least you’re honest enough to admit it. It’s a great thing that racial civil rights were granted in this country. I bet they did it simply by “writing to their congressPERSON” and didn’t have to do anything like have marches or parades or anything like that right? Because that would have probably turned off people who were opposed to it and nothing ever would have been done.

        I will give you this: you are the first conservative to actually admit that your people are actively trying to deny equal rights to homosexuals simply because they’re homosexual. So…kudos…?

      • I am not against laws, some conservatives on the very far right are fighting them because of these displays that reinforce the image of GLBT people as pervert. Clean up your act and things would go a lot smoother.

      • What is wrong with their “act”? If you don’t want to look at it, don’t go to any pride parades. I’m not keen on watching two guys make out but I’ve got nothing against them doing it if that’s their thing. I don’t have to sit with my eyes glued to them as if I’m transfixed. If you do that says more about you than it does about them.

        Conservatives are fighting their equality for the same reason they fought against my people having equality.

      • No, you’re loud and in our face about it because you thrive on the attention; admit it. You want special rights, not equal. You want to be able to sue people into bankruptcy and silence any dissenting opinion in regards to your lifestyle choices. If you were being honest you would admit that.

      • Who the hell is denying you anything? That lie is getting old and tired. And sodomy laws? Unless you’re out in public doing you thing, who would know what two consenting adults are doing behind…………..no pun intended……………closed doors? Cut the crap.There is nowhere you cannot go. You also need a history lesson about black America in the 1960’s.

        ‘In your face’ is the problem. No one likes anyone in their face for any reason. If you wish to be confrontational, don’t whimper and snivel when you get that confrontation. Stop looking for people yo vent on because of your psychological issues. You;re seeing boogeymen where none exist.

      • Conservatives fighting marriage equality is not a “boogeyman”. It’s real. It’s a good thing that liberals/progressives don’t operate the same way that conservatives do or they’d really have something to fear when they become the minority in the country (because that time is coming.)

      • You and your fellow freaks can spank yourselves into eternity for all I care. Get used to the fact that we have the right to disagree with your perversion no matter how much you dislike it. If you aberrations of nature want to marry each other, go right ahead. But don;t tell me I have to accept it, like it or endorse it under the guise of ‘equality’. Go on your merry way and stay out of our face about it. Learn that those who oppose you have rights too.

      • Well I guess it’s a start that you’re admitting that you people are actively seeking to oppress the LGBT community. Unfortunately for your inane tirade I’m a happily married hetero male with five kids. I just happen to not agree with being a bigot or discriminating against people. You certainly have your rights and granting homosexuals the right to marry would no more impact your rights than allowing racial civil rights impacted the civil rights of white people. It’s just hard for you people to understand that concept.

      • So in your mind, your hatred for those who voice their disagreement with you are ‘oppressing’ you? Why do YOU oppress straights who have a different opinion than you? Why are you so intolerant? Why do you hate straights that oppose your POV?

      • I am straight, I don’t hate straight people, lol. I don’t hate bigots. They are free and clear to be bigots all day, everyday. I pity them. No one is oppressing bigots unless you mean by not allowing them to discriminate against others. Imagine if we’d let the Klan keep on discriminating against blacks in the south?

      • And no one is oppressing your pole smoking pals either. You freaks want to swap spit? Go ahead. But don’t tell me I have to accept it.

      • You don’t have to accept it, lol. But to deny them basic civil rights is unconcstitutional 🙂

        I’m sure the Klan is still angry that blacks and other minorities are afforded the same rights that they are but equality is what’s right 🙂

      • I’ve denied no one anything. That’s why all of you carping about it is directed to the wrong person. You guys lash out at anyone and everyone. And outside of marriage in some states, what have you been denied?

        Good for the Klan. And? If you wish to keep flinging this straw man around you’ll wear yourself out. Your buddies can have all the rights they wish. It makes me zero difference. That’s the part you do not understand. I’m just telling you that ‘in-you-face’ only gets ‘in-your-face’ in return.

      • You mean not operating like putting business owners out of business or CEO’s being forced to step down because they donated to causes with their own private money? Please. The gay-gestapo have become the very thing they claim to despise. Cultural Pharisees is what they have become.

      • That CEO was free and clear to stay in his position in his business. It’s not his fault that his views or who he donates to are socially unacceptable to a large majority of the people use his product, lol. It’s just like finding out the owner of your local deli is in the Klan. He’s free and clear to remai in the Klan just as the public is free and clear to not make use of his services. I thought conservatives were huge proponents of talking with your wallet? He’s free and clear to use his private money for whatever he wants just like the public was free and clear to threaten his company’s bottom line for which his company had him step down.

    • The last time I checked straight people weren’t persecuted or beaten/murdered simply for being the sexual orientation they were. Conservatives can’t really be this dumb. You can’t tell me that you don’t look at the history of the US and see why people have their pride parades and want equality…

      If it’s really just “their business” then why do conservatives fight tooth and nail (all the while losing the war and each battle) to keep homosexuals from attaining the same civil rights as everyone else in the US? Why do they fight marriage equality? For the same reasons they fought against racial civil rights?

  28. Good point Col. but there is an even greater cause for this problem which is the corruption of the entire nation from top down and inside out. GOD`s judgement is abiding upon America today.

  29. As a general rule, Black people do not receive recognition for who they are. Example: After the 2012 election, it was proclaimed that obama won because of Blacks,women and Hispanics. I think Blacks were majorly exploited and insulted over this.There were too many Black individuals and organizations who strongly opposed him. Also, that was probably political propaganda to help replace any sane thoughts about what really happened behind the scenes in the election. Also, a lot of the 13% were not old enough to vote or didn’t vote. It wasn’t enough to sway the vote significantly. There was no credit given to the percentage of Black people who think obama is a disaster. The news made it like all Black people were big obama supporters.

    Some of the most spiritual and caring and truthful people I know are African descent. I consider their presence a great blessing. We all face disintegration problems and a major battle for our children. I think Black people have enough isolated individuals who have the heart, soul and desire to work for change to heal problems. It is a problem to find unity and leadership in the chaos of modern life. If they could come together it would awesome.

    • Let’s be honest here. The black voting block has been monolithic to the tune of 95% democrat almost 100% of the time. And we see how 50 years of LBJ ‘s programs have worked for them. Yet they still lock-step behind the dems much to their own detriment.

      • Except for the fact that LBJs “Great Society” programs actually did do quite a bit to improve the livelihoods and economic mobility of the black community in general and of pretty much everybody else.

        Many of the issues which are cited in this thread didn’t really emerge until the “Great Society” was gutted (kick-starting thirty years of stagnant wages and ever-increasing economic inequality) and the racially-motivated “war on drugs” was started by Reagan.

        Reagan even invented the fictional trope of the “welfare queen” to rile up the angry white vote.

        Blacks may have shifted over to the Democratic party as the Dixiecrats jumped ship to the GOP, but it was Saint Ronald himself who put the final nail in the electoral coffin.

      • [[ Except for the fact that LBJs “Great Society” programs actually did do quite a bit to improve the livelihoods and economic mobility of the black community in general and of pretty much everybody else. ]]

        Bring your ignorant ass up here to Chi and look at the black hoods that are the same now as they were prior to LBJ.

        [[ Blacks may have shifted over to the Democratic party as the Dixiecrats jumped ship to the GOP ]]

        More ignorant lib-speak

        Friday, October 19, 2012

        Where did all of the Dixiecrats go?

        Democrats argue that Southern Dixiecrat racists fled from the Democratic Party to the Republican Party after the Civil Rights Act in 1964. That would of course be an odd thing to do, given that Republicans, who had a 100-year history of support for civil rights, voted for Civil Rights with much larger majorities than Democrats, who have a 150-year history of support for slavery, segregation, and the Ku Klux Klan.

        The 150-year civil rights struggle can be summed quite accurately: it was a struggle of Republicans supporting civil rights against Democrats opposing it. By the mid-20th century, some Democrats had come around to the Republican view that blacks had civil rights.

        The opponents of civil rights have always been Democrats.

        But let’s take a look at how many Dixiecrat segregationalists remained Democrats, and how many switched parties:

        Dixiecrats who remained Democrats after 1964:

        Orval Fabus
        Benjamin Travis Laney
        John Stennis
        James Eastland
        Allen Ellender
        Russell Long
        John Sparkman
        John McClellan
        Richard Russell
        Herman Talmadge
        George Wallace
        Lester Maddox
        John Rarick
        Robert Byrd
        Al Gore, Sr.
        Bull Connor

        Dixiecrats who became Republicans after 1964:
        Strom Thurmond
        Miles Godwin

        So much for that trope.

      • The opponents of civil rights have always been conservatives. Look who are the ones going around with the confederate traitor’s flag brandished, lol. It’s certainly not liberals/progressives… IJS.

        Not every conservative is in the Klan but if you’re in the Klan you’re likely to be a conservative. I have yet to see a liberal KKK member.

      • Hyuck, that’s my-tee clever, lol. Please don’t burn yourself out I’d hate for the gray matter to dry up in there 🙂

      • Okay, that was a generous oversimplification of the history. The evolution and emergence of the sixth party system out of the fifth is a complex story and I doubt you’d read it if I wrote it out here anyway.

        Long story short, inspired by a split between the more progressive arm and the segregationist arm of the Democratic party, as exemplified by the candidacy of George Wallace for President in 1968, the Republicans engaged in a Southern strategy of dog whistle politics to win over the disillusioned white voters, alienating black voters in the process.

        After a hiccup in 1976, Reagan perfected the dog whistle strategy in time for 1980, in effect securing the rather numerous (at the time) former segregationist vote for the GOP with the trade-off of once again alienating black voters in the process.

      • I don’t need your spin and nuance. I gave you the list. Accept it or not. And here are some more ‘oversimplifications’ for you…………………

        25 Examples of Liberal Racism in QuotesJohn Hawkins | Mar 26, 2013

        1) “(Obama’s) a nice person, he’s very articulate this is what’s been used against him, but he couldn’t sell watermelons if it, you gave him the state troopers to flag down the traffic.” — Dan Rather

        2) “White folks was in the caves while we [blacks] was building empires … We built pyramids before Donald Trump ever knew what architecture was … we taught philosophy and astrology and mathematics before Socrates and them Greek homos ever got around to it.” — Al Sharpton

        3) “‘Hymies.’ ‘Hymietown.’” — Jesse Jackson’s description of New York City while on the 1984 presidential campaign trail.

        4) “A few years ago, (Barack Obama) would have been getting us coffee.” — Bill Clinton to Ted Kennedy

        5) “The Israeli puppeteer travels to Washington and meets with the puppet in the White House. He then goes down Pennsylvania Avenue and meets with the puppets in Congress. The Israeli leader then ‘brings back millions of dollars’ in aid to Israel.” — Ralph Nader

        6) “(Harry Reid) was wowed by Obama’s oratorical gifts and believed that the country was ready to embrace a black presidential candidate, especially one such as Obama — a ‘light-skinned’ African American ‘with no Negro dialect, unless he wanted to have one.” — Harry Reid’s comments reported by Mark Halperin and John Heilemann

        7) “I do not think it is an exaggeration at all to say to my friend from West Virginia [Sen. Robert C. Byrd, a former Ku Klux Klan recruiter] that he would have been a great senator at any moment. . . . He would have been right during the great conflict of civil war in this nation.” — Former Democratic Senator Christopher Dodd (D.,Conn.)

        8) “Civil rights laws were not passed to protect the rights of white men and do not apply to them.” — Mary Frances Berry, former Chairwoman, US Commission on Civil Rights

        9) “Tainting the tea party movement with the charge of racism is proving to be an effective strategy for Democrats. There is no evidence that tea party adherents are any more racist than other Republicans, and indeed many other Americans. But getting them to spend their time purging their ranks and having candidates distance themselves should help Democrats win in November. Having one’s opponent rebut charges of racism is far better than discussing joblessness.” –Mary Frances Berry, former Chairwoman, US Commission on Civil Rights

        10) “Well, because the Arabs who were involved in 9/11 cooperated with the Zionists, actually. It was a cooperation. They gave them the perfect excuse to denounce all Arabs. It’s a racist sort of thing, really racist – you know, picking out these 19 or 20 terrorists – they were terrorists – and saying all the Arabs are like them.” — Former Democratic Senator James Abourezk on Hizbullah TV

        11) “Let me see one of you adopt one of those ugly black babies.” — AbortionistAshutosh Ron Virmani

        12) “There’s no great, white bigot; there’s just about 200 million little white bigots out there.” — USA Today columnist Julienne Malveaux

        13) “Them Jews aren’t going to let (Obama) talk to me. I told my baby daughter, that he’ll talk to me in five years when he’s a lame duck, or in eight years when he’s out of office. …They will not let him talk to somebody who calls a spade what it is.” — Jeremiah Wright

        14) “There’s white racist DNA running through the synapses of his or her brain tissue. They will kill their own kind, defend the enemies of their kind or anyone who is perceived to be the enemy of the milky white way of life.” — Jeremiah Wright

        15) “The white man is our mortal enemy, and we cannot accept him. I will fight to see that vicious beast go down into the lake of fire prepared for him from the beginning, that he never rise again to give any innocent black man, woman or child the hell that he has delighted in pouring on us for 400 years.” — Louis Farrakhan

        16) “White people shouldn’t be allowed to vote. It’s for the good of the country and for those who’re bitter for a reason and armed because they’re scared.” — Left-wing journalist Jonathan Valania

        17) “(Joseph Lowery) said that when he was a young militant, he used to say all white folks were going to hell. …’Then he mellowed and just said most of them were. Now, he said, he is back to where he was.’” — The Daily Mail quotes Joseph Lowery, who gave the benediction at President Obama’s inauguration

        18) “We are owned by propagandists against the Arabs. There’s no question about that. Congress, the White House, and Hollywood, Wall Street, are owned by the Zionists. No question in my opinion. They put their money where their mouth is…We’re being pushed into a wrong direction in every way.” — Helen Thomas

        19) “You cannot go to a 7-11 or Dunkin Donuts unless you have a slight Indian Accent.” — Joe Biden

        20) “I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that’s a storybook, man.” — Joe Biden

        21) “I give interracial couples a look. Daggers. They get uncomfortable when they see me on the street.” — Spike Lee

        22) “I want to go up to the closest white person and say: ‘You can’t understand this, it’s a black thing’ and then slap him, just for my mental health.” — New York City Councilman, Charles Barron

        23) “We got to do something about these Asians coming in and opening up businesses and dirty shops. They ought to go.” — Marion Barry

        24) “The point I was making was not that Grandmother harbors any racial animosity. She doesn’t. But she is a typical white person…” — Barack Obama

        25) “That’s just how white folks will do you. It wasn’t merely the cruelty involved; I was learning that black people could be mean and then some. It was a particular brand of arrogance, an obtuseness in otherwise sane people that brought forth our bitter laughter. It was as if whites didn’t know that they were being cruel in the first place. Or at least thought you deserving of their scorn.” — Barack Obama

      • Okay, by “Dixiecrats jumped ship”, I was referring to the rift that formed in the Democratic party which ultimately catalyzed a major tidal shift in the two major parties, bringing about the sixth party system as we have today.

        I did not literally mean that every single “Dixiecrat” politician moved over to the Republican party. I was using a figure of speech known as a “metonymy”.

      • In any event, two went to the GOP while all the rest stayed dem. And then we have the dems starting the KKK.

      • Putin invaded Georgia under Bush, Crash of 2009, Iraq War… Bush is so toxic last two republican nominees did not want him at their convention.

      • Who cares what Putin invades? That’s their problem.

        What crash? Housing? Look up Jimmy Cater’s and Bill Clinton’s CRA. The DOW? So what? Corrections and crashes happen.

        Iraq war was approved by both parties.

        Don’t talk about a toxic prez unless you include Obama.

      • And how many from both parties would love take that vote on Irag back? You guys keep saying Obama wont because he is black, the truth is main reason he won is because he wasn’t GWB.

      • Jam your race card up your azz pimp. And suck on this as you read what your two faced dems thought about WMD’s ………Democrat Quotes on Iraq Weapons of Mass Destruction
        “One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line.”
        –President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

        “If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction program.”
        –President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

        “Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face.”
        –Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

        “He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983.”
        –Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

        “[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq’s refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs.”
        Letter to President Clinton, signed by:
        — Democratic Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others, Oct. 9, 1998

        “Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process.”
        -Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

        “Hussein has … chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies.”
        — Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

        “There is no doubt that … Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies.”
        Letter to President Bush, Signed by:
        — Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), and others, Dec 5, 2001

        “We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and th! e means of delivering them.”
        — Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

        “We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country.”
        — Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

        “Iraq’s search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power.”
        — Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

        “We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction.”
        — Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

        “The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons…”
        — Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

        “I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force — if necessary — to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security.”
        — Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

        “There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years … We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction.”
        — Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

        “He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do”
        — Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

        “In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members … It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons.”
        — Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

        “We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction.”
        — Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

        “Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime … He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation … And now he is miscalculating America’s response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction … So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real…”
        — Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003

      • And proud of it. I’d rather President Obama than that feeble minded chimp bush anyday of the week and twice on Sunday.

      • I’ll give you a hint, his deputy chief of staff once openly expressed disdain for the “reality-based community”.

      • At least under that “chimp” gas was 1.84 bucks a gallon and unemployment was under 5%. Blind faith is foolishness.

      • At least that “feeble minded chimp” didn’t claim to have visited 57 states while campaigning!

      • Does this mean that you think democrats use facts and do research? Subscribe to democrat head quarters emails and read their lack of facts emails. When things get tough, the tough get going. When the democrats get in trouble, they target the Koch brothers. This tactic causes some people to vote straight democrat because people are programmed to hate the Koch brothers. There is a total lack of facts and research on this because Tom Steyers, Soros, and a lot of other billionaires contribute to the democrat party. Another name for this is agitprop or agitating with propaganda. I am morally against using fear tactics like this. I want facts and research.

        Also, Republicans admit there is in party corruption. They are working hard to clean up corruption. I am not hearing that democrats are admitting and targeting any corruption. If someone wants to research unbiased bi partisan targeting of corruption, they can check on the Judicial Watch web site. Judicial Watch targets corruption and takes it all the way to the supreme court. They always have a list of corrupt officials who are of either party.

        These are examples of facts and research.

      • I’m not seeing much house cleaning done by republicans. Not until a scandal breaks and they can’t control it. And even then they don’t go away willingly. Todd Akin is back in the news again saying he never should have apologized, lol.

        As far as democrats using facts and research, politicians are politicians. I don’t consider myself a democrat. I’m a liberal/progressive. Parties don’t make people vote. You vote on who is the better candidate for leading everyone, not just people like you. Whether or not conservatives want to believe it the Koch brothers and ALEC are pushing much of the conservative agenda and dog-whistle legislation coming out of red states. That’s easily researched and proven. I don’t trust politicians anymore than I can see throw them and I trust republican/Tea-Qaeda politicians even less. They are not working towards the people’s best interests, only their own.

      • McDaniels is a bit of a bigot and I can’t see him winning anything anyway, lol. That’s not cleaning house that’s like electing palin to public office if she’d take the pay cut to have her name put on a ballot, lol. The only thing Tea-Qaeda is doing by removing the GOP politicians is making it easier for liberals because establishment republicans aren’t going to vote for crazy people. And virtually every Tea-Qaeda politician is crazy. Like WWF pro-wrestling pre-fight-interview crazy because that’s the only way to get votes among their base.

      • LGBT do not use facts or research either. They use sensational rag newspapers and some really weird people as talking points!

      • Actually its the other way around, conservatives use facts and logic most progressives and liberals go by emotions and talking points that they have heard from someone else. To blindly follow some guy and question nothing he does because he is the right skin color and is a Democrat is insane.

      • I don’t have to own anyone because I didn’t vote for his sorry butt either time. I tried to warn family members and friends and anyone else who was around, but unfortunately a good number of my people have been successfully brainwashed. I can sleep pretty darn well at night knowing that my vote, nor my husband and my adult children did not contribute getting this fraud in office. Sadly, the country suffers in the meantime.

  30. I would like to answer the woman in Houston. YOU take care of your OWN kids. It’s in their best interests to have their PARENTS taking care of them, not the government. We’ve already seen what 5 decades of ‘Great Society’ government nannyism has done for all who let themselves fall into it’s grasp. It’s time for blacks to look to each other in the community for positive solutions without government interference. The government never does anything for anyone without ultimately demanding total and complete control over your life in return. That includes any children you may have that THEY are supporting. They have motives, and the betterment of your children is not at the top of the list.

  31. I think the Col. Had a great point, but as I read the comments I can see why we will never get anything done.

    • I think the people making negative comments are here because they find West to be a threat. The reason someone may consider West a threat, is because he represents truth and honesty, and reason. These anti West people are probably here to try to fool people into thinking there is a multitude of people who oppose West. It is possible negative commenters are paid trolls who are here to disrupt the conversations and try to fool people into thinking these people have power. i am tired of obama’s distractions and lies and destruction on American citizens. I find it necessary to come to this site so that I can read sane and solid articles with positive thoughts I can hang on to. The negative comments, against West, indicate to me that he is successful.

      • West isn’t a threat to anyone. He isn’t trying to be successful at anything meaningful. He’s just getting into the internet trolling minstrel show. I’m not afraid of west, lol. I just can’t sit idly by and allow someone using their military background to peddle ignorance and bigotry.

      • I don’t understand why Allen west would use his disgraced military background. OH…because people do not know that he left his men to face charges ALONE!! Allen west is a COWARD! A true leader does not leave his men to face charges for something he was in command of. He stands with those men! Allen west is NO LEADER!!

      • I had to stop reading after i saw “consider West a threat” . Sorry to let you know this but….1st The black community doesn’t know and doesn’t care who allen west is. 2nd Allen west is a source of COMEDY…thats all…he’s not a serious political ANYTHING! 3rd Allen west is a disgrace to the military and to his race! He is the real life UNCLE RUCKUS!!!

  32. And if the LGBT community follows the black community by looking to government to solve all their problems, they’ll implode, too!

    • That’s a good point. When once the black community and movement stood for freedom, justice and equal rights it now stands for handouts and welfare. Such a shame. If the black community can unify once more and develop a new creed that involves taking care of one another, giving back to others, and truly standing strong then they could be an unstoppable force that the rest of the world would welcome.

      • Why do you think the “black community” is fractured and broken now? Couldn’t be because of people like Hoover and his ilk afraid of blacks being on equal footing with everyone else in the US could it? It’s not like people in the US government didn’t go forth and target groups that were trying to help the “black community” rise above the slights they’d been handed since being enslaved and drug to America… Are conservatives really that cluelyss or oblivious to history?

      • Read about the escalation of violence in Chicago. o did not correct the violence. I grew worse. Pschopathic people could not care less. The ones of us who care ,,,, are the ones who cement together humanity. A good leader could have helped that sad situation in Chicago. I give obama an F on this.

        Surely you have noticed we always have a major crisis when another crisis needs to be pushed out of the way. obama has failed miserably with this latest EO about discrimination against the LGBT community. Hardly anyone could care less since we are flooded with thousands from south of the border. Maybe he just needed fan fare from this small group of individuals and their supporters. He is a colossal failure and since Americans don’t support him, he is bringing in illegal immigrants to vote as democrat. From your comments, I take it this does not matter one iota to you.

        I pledge allegiance to God, my country, Israel, and legal residents. You can pledge allegiance to obama or who ever. I will paddle my own vote and you can paddle yours.

      • Because Chicago didn’t get bad until President Obama got there, right? LoL.

        As far as “illegal immigrants” are concerned what are the “job creators” doing to stop the immigrants from coming? LoL. Who is hiring them? Someone must be giving them jobs.

      • You’re too stupid to comment on the black community kid. At least here in Chi.

        You have no idea what you are talking about. Prior to LBJ coming along with his social heroin, the south and west sides of Chicago had vibrant and dynamic business districts along 47th street on the south and Madison street to the west. The housing projects were well maintained abodes that were looked at like a good neighborhood. The increase of single parent home, primarily the mother, to the tune of 72% at this point, is catastrophic. You had seen none of this prior t LBJ ‘s Great Society who’s intent was —I’ll Have Those Ni**ers Voting Democratic For The Next 200 Years

        So what changed genius? You had dem mayors here in Chi forever as well as a dem Congress from about 1955 until 1994. Kinda makes your Hoover argument look stupid and silly. Take a seat fool.

      • Are blacks permanent victims? I think they have now become willing accomplices. They vote overwhelmingly for the party that keeps them dependent. They’d rather vote for a pasty white cracker like Bill Clinton because he promised more handouts than to take responsibility for their actions. Like the unmarried, welfare queen of 15 children who famously said, “Somebody needs to pay for ALL my children. Someone needs to be held accountable!” Never taking responsibility for her own actions, of course.

      • What’s amazing about the absolute ignorance displayed in your comment is the fact that the country was more prosperous under Clinton than either of the bushes and Reagan and the three of them had to go off and start wars to stimulate boosting the economy. It’s hilarious reading commentary from people like you.

      • I get it, Jason. The black community is perfect. No problem with 72% of children born out of wedlock. No problem with a culture that glorifies thuggery and anti-intellectualism. No problem with generational welfare. No problem with drug abuse, violence, and high incarceration rates. Blame it all on conservatives. Keep voting for Democrats who are all too happy to keep you on the government plantation in exchange for your sellout votes.

      • Pretty sure the portion of society that decries education rests solely with Y’all-Qaeda and the Birch Society right wing, lol. And the problems with births out of wedlock are hardly constrained to the black community. No one said we were perfect, but our problems can be traced back to significant points in history that were never addressed and are still “minimalized” today. It’s a long discussion that in sure you wouldn’t want to get into and haven’t the presence of mind to listen to much less consider. I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree because I’ll not change you and neither you nor west will convince me that he isn’t a pariah and a con artist.

      • The handouts and welfare scenario has reached a lot of people in all communities. The Black community is hurting severely from the crime. obama needs to be given part of the credit for the pain because he has done things since early 2009 to make sure the border was open and not secure. This has allowed the drug lords to bring drugs to our states. I think this is part of the problem in Chicago and other areas. I wish all the power and unity to those with a heart and soul to help them. I agree with you that they can be unstoppable. Also awesome.

        Also, obama is making an effort to bring millions from south of the border. This is going to make it worse on everyone about getting jobs. I don’t know why anyone would stand up for obama. This makes me really believe the negative commenters on this site are probably all paid trolls.

  33. Where are you in the black community Allen west? Who are you guiding? Who are you mentoring? How dare you when you don’t even go into the community that you put down! Freaking sell out!

    • I don’t know where your comment is to me where you were arguing about West not being a threat. I think this is why there are several people coming to this site to discredit him. There are people all into criticizing him and nit picking. A fool would not understand what is happening. Thinking people can see that this is possibly a game plan to do the same as other game plans to eliminate obama’s opposition in the past. Some people try to guide themselves with out being useful idiots. I don’t know who you think you are manipulating with your comment. It is not me. If I lacked ethics, and I came on this site to discredit West because I considered him a threat…. and I lacked ethics… I would not admit it either. I support him, i operate with ethics, and I buy nothing of what you present in your comment.

    • Where are you in the black community Obama? Who are you guiding? Who are you mentoring? How dare you when you don’t even go into the community that has gun deaths every week! Freaking sell out!

      • it’s almost like Obama worked in Chicago most of his professional life helping out a community practically in flames…

  34. Col West, we need more people like you who are willing to stand up and support communities by helping them through your actions, such as your Allen West Foundation, Guardian of the Republic foundation and your support and efforts put towards JROTC programs. Another example was your being at the Western Conservative Summit in Denver this weekend. We don’t need more “community organizers” like obama, jackson or sharpton to inflame people, we need people such as yourself, “doers” not “takers”.

  35. Women are afforded greater moral authority in western cultures. The push to mainstream the gay and lesbian community is led by women, which influences many – very much like the movement to end slavery prior to the civil war. It’s hard to debate like a man when you are arguing with a woman regardless of the logic and reasonableness of one’s point of view. When that perceived moral authority snowballs, men have a tendency to get out of the way – then – bam!… a movement is born and others jump on the wagon like the election of Barrack Obama. and the war on women.

    I think that the black conservative movement would be better to encourage more black conservative women to take the lead.

  36. Any thoughts on data suggesting AAs make up a majority of the LGBT community?

    I would agree that working together with more groups would help. One potential road block may be the Christian church as it is an organization generally bigoted and at odds with equality for all.

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