Folks, you’re missing the point about Donald Sterling

“Upon further review, the ruling on the field (court)…” These are the words stated by referees after they’ve gone to the reply booth (monitor) in order to clarify a controversial call. Often, the reason for the review is because of a coach’s challenge. Therefore, in the same light, let us review the case of LA Clippers owner, Donald Sterling.

There can be no debate that the words of Mr. Sterling were reprehensible and disgusting. But how and why did these words come to light now, when his points of view were apparently well-known for many years?

It seems his “girlfriend,” Ms. Stiviano, decided to tape a private conversation between the two. Apparently, Ms. Stiviano had recently been sued by the estranged wife of Mr. Sterling, so there is some potential nefarious motive involved. Furthermore, the taping of a conversation without consent of the other party is illegal under California statute. There is some question as to whether he knew he was being recorded. Let’s assume for the moment he didn’t.

The national outrage against Mr. Sterling has come from an act that could be illegal and inadmissible in a court of law. Nevertheless, the court of public opinion has tried and convicted Mr. Sterling of being a jerk.

But have we come to a point in America where being a jerk is grounds for confiscation of a private property? It was Englishman John Locke who first proposed that individual rights as granted under natural law were life, liberty, and property. It was Thomas Jefferson who in the American Declaration of Independence used that paradigm to propose our unalienable rights from our Creator being life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Sterling’s comments were repulsive, but they were stated in the privacy of his own home — at least he thought it was private.

So where do we go from here?

Have we come to the point that private conversations can be taped and released in the public domain in order to ruin the livelihood –pursuit of happiness — of private citizens? Ms. Stiviano, or whomever, knew exactly what they wanted the end result to be as they released this tape to TMZ.

Is this the “new normal?” Is this a violation of our privacy rights? Ok, so what types of conversations occur in the privacy of the NBA locker rooms, or the homes of the players? Yes, this is indeed a slippery slope as Dallas Mavericks owner Mark Cuban asserted.

Fox News host and commentator Greg Gutfeld applauded this moment because of the consensus outrage being displayed. But I believe this outrage misplaced, or more accurately, mis-prioritized. NBA Commissioner Adam Silver said Sterling’s behavior was “dangerous to the NBA.”

Where is the cultural, public outrage over a behind closed door comment such as referring to the State of Israel as an “apartheid state?” Probably most of America doesn’t know who said it or even what “aparteid” means.

Or how about the outrage that should have come when our own president leaned over to then-Russian President Medvedev sayng, “Tell Putin that after my reelection I will have more flexibility” and of course Medvedev said, “I will tell Vladimir.” And now we know what that “flexibility” has allowed.

Aren’t those “private” chats reflective of behavior that is dangerous for the United States?

Or how about the lies and deceit of President Obama on healthcare and of course Benghazi, which we now know a video had nothing to do with.

Has our culture devolved to the point that the private statements of an NBA owner draws more outrage than the lies and deceit of the President of the United States?

Donald Sterling’s behavior is despicable, but so is that of President Barack Hussein Obama — and whose abhorrent behavior has more impact on our country?

The difference is that the media lead us along like sheep to the slaughter, turning us into reactionary, shallow thinking, low information voters along the way. We know more about Sterling than Benghazi — or the IRS scandal.

Sterling is a jerk, an unlikeable fella, but is he guilty of a crime that demands his property be confiscated? Uh, no.

We’re told however that Obama is a likable fella –regardless of the incessant lies, deceit and abject failures. What is happening to American culture and values?

I don’t like jerks, but I really don’t like jerks who are liars, do you?

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AZWarrior
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Could you imagine if some of the private Barbie Obama conversations were released?

TingleMoops
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The gov didn’t confiscate, the NBA, an organization which he agreed to be part of and under the authority of. He was fined as an owner of an NBA team, and it was not a criminal punishment. I get that it might be seen as a precedence, but it really isn’t. This isn’t like the French or the Brits placing criminal charges for such talk. This is a code of conduct violation for an organization he willingly took part in.

Pam Dunn
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BULL excrement!! It was STILL a PRIVATE conversation and not even as BAD as that made by various BLACK players; However I realize you are an empty headed moron, so post on.

AKJomsviking
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That’s not the author’s point. He’s asking if this is where we’re at as a culture – that we’re ok with a man’s private property being taken (use any terms you want, but that’s what is happening) because of something he said in private. Not something he did, or something that he said in a public forum. Not something that was uncovered in the course of a criminal investigation. Are we Americans OK with the fact that this man’s livelihood will be threatened because of something that he said in private? That is the question that West is asking in… Read more »
J Smith.
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The Clippers are not this mans livelihood.

Also, if a man signs a contract agreeing to this sort of thing, then yes, we as a culture are just fine with following through on said terms of contract.

Pam Dunn
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Then go after ALL the BLACK PLAYERS that have made RACIST remarks. Sterlings remarks were NOT EVEN RAcist UNLESS you are a left winger moron LOOKING to be offended.

The_Heretic70
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As egged on by the POTUS? I see 1st Amendment infringement due to his meddling behavior. Would the NBA have acted like this if Obama had not opened his pie hole? They have known about him for years…..and he was illegally set up.

mshare
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1st Amendment applies to the President, also. Oh, that’s right, he’s Nigerian and not a citizen. My bad.

Ronald Green
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Get it right, he’s Kenyan, not Nigerian.

Memphis Viking
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Exactly. You can argue about whether the NBA did the right thing, but it’s not a 1st Amendment issue.

mountainaires
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They cannot force him to sell his business. Period. They may fine him; they may ban him. They cannot force him to sell his business for his opinion, no matter how bigoted.

J Smith.
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You don’t understand how sports franchise ownership actually works.

Not that that should stop you from making bullshit comments about it though.

mshare
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Actually, they can according to the contract between him and the NBA. There’s a clause in the contract for behavior unbecoming and this falls under it. And I’m quite sure the NBA lawyers looked into this in detail BEFORE banning him.

Pam Dunn
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He should FILE SUIT in court; I bet THAT little clause would get overturned because of the lackadaisical way it has Always been applied.

Juliette Akinyi Ochieng
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Are you privy to the contract between the NBA and each of the owners?

Bob Young
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I agree with public opionion that Mr. Sterling is a jerk, a racist, and not really a nice person. But does it worry anyone else that this guy has been found guilty as charged by a freaking Sports Association and that they can actually force a $2.5 million penalty on him, and forcibly remove him from ownership of property? All for something he SAID about his bigotry and racism? So now, you gotta ask yourself, what is next?

This is not about racism – this is about personal freedoms and over-reaching demands.

David Streever
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Did someone hold a gun to his head when he signed the contract?

FiveHats
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Just as the locust leaps, he leapt upon. Sterling reaped from his own system, cheer that the world ate one of its own. its coming for you. So the cost of a racial slur is a couple hundred million, will rappers be banned for life?

David Whitmore
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Doubt it.

Gene Linet
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What’s next… nothing. If the NBA has the ability to fine him he agreed to be accountable in the contract. If not, he will sue them. You get what you sign up for.

Roberta Welch
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why is it about racism why is she not taken off her pedestal and blamed a racist also she is the one that goaded him into saying all of this you all are after him for saying these things but not one has mentioned WHY he said them

Juliette Akinyi Ochieng
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Unless the NBA has become an arm of the government, I’m not worried about my personal freedom being infringed upon by that entity. There are plenty of actual government agencies doing that (IRS, NSA, EPA, etc.).

Bob Young
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I agree, but when we allow private enterprise that broad power, it sets a worrisome precedent. Censure him, criticize him, don’t support his basketball team, whatever…but $2.5 million fine? Forcing the sale of his property? Really? And all this without due process (and I don’t care if Sterling did sign a contract or not – the NBA is just acting like a nanny-government).

David Streever
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they’ve *always* had that power. Do you know anything about contract law?
He doesn’t *have* to pay anything, but that is the cost that he needs to pay if he wants to have any dealings with them.

Do you honestly think that we should limit what a company can charge?!?! to use their brand & identity?

Should we force AT&T to let private citizens use their identity and name?! You sound like a liberal.

David Whitmore
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If they are ‘banning’ him for ‘life’ how could he have any ‘dealings’ with them? So tell me again, why he should pay a ‘fine’?

Bob Young
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Nah, I’m a gun toting hard ass conservative. I just don’t like assholes.

David Streever
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No you aren’t; if you were, you’d support the RIGHT of the NBA to enforce the contract that their member signed. You want BIG GOV to step in…

well, I got a clue for you lib–it’s not gonna happen. This is America. The Constitution isn’t your toilet paper, you hear me son?

You don’t get to play social manipulations and use the government to control what companies do.

NO REGULATION IS GOOD REGULATION!
LIVE FREE OR DIE!

Bob Young
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Well, maybe I didn’t think my remarks all the way through. But I have been a conservative all my life and always voted Republican – and I detest big government. I probably should have stayed out of this fight, its bad enough that I get my butt kicked by libs, but now by someone who also claims to be conservative. Go figure. And lets move on, okay?

David Streever
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The second you stop whining about what private companies do, and expecting a NANNY STATE big government SOCIALIST response is the second we can drop it. You don’t know ANYTHING about being a conservative if you think that we’re going to let BIG GOVERNMENT come in and wipe up after us. I am SICK of the lack of responsibility that you people preach. Get religion, get your head out of thinking that government can ban things to fix things, and understand this: IF YOU AGREE TO A CONTRACT YOU ARE HELD TO THAT CONTRACT What part of the rule of… Read more »
David Whitmore
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In response to your last rant (below), I am not a Socialist or in the Green Party. I’m pretty sure none of my friends could in any stretch of the imagination picture me as a liberal. Yes, he signed a Contract with the NBA Owner’s group; or what ever they want to call themselves. But, as any one wise in the ways of contract law will tell you, there is no such thing as an “iron-clad” “unbreakable” contract. Every contract can be broken; it just depends on how much money you want to throw at the problem. Next; they knew… Read more »
Michael R Trice
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It’s a consortium of partners with extensive bylaws. Owners know what they’re signing up for when they join. How is this fine any different than fining a player?

Gene Linet
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Except the NBA is not a government. His relationship with them is voluntary. Your employer is not obliged to retain you for any reason.

GreenEyedGal
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The NBA isn’t Sterling’s employer.

Michael R Trice
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True. The other owners are his partners and he entered that partnership under a set of bylaws. He’s being voted off the board essentially.

Rob Liz
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Your employer when firing you shouldn’t be fining you sums of money upon your exit either.

J Smith.
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Unless the contract both parties agreed upon at the beginning includes provisions for this sort of thing

David Streever
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Maybe you shouldn’t agree to those terms if you don’t like them?

Michael R Trice
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Your board partners might if your actions damage the company and the bylaws allow them to do so.

Pam Dunn
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How could ANYBODY damage that league of over paid clowns?

Michael R Trice
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You mean the multi-billion dollar industry that held 6 of the top 10 cable broadcasts last week?

mountainaires
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Exactly. It’s conviction in the court of rabid public opinion over Thought Crimes. People should not stand for it. It’s brazenly unconstitutional.

J Smith.
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You sure like to use bold type to highlight your gross misunderstanding of what’s actually going on here

David Streever
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Have you read the Constitution?

Can you tell me which part restricts a private corporation from entering into agreements & dealings with members?

Gene Linet
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Constitutionality pertains to government, not public opinion.

Jason Grant
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I stopped listening to their BS when they claimed they had foresnically examined the tape, in this woman’s lawyer’s office in less than a day and concluded without a doubt it’s unaltered and his voice. I was done right there. It’s a sham. No one cared when this guy was committing Federal housing discrimination crimes. Somehow this is the straw that broke the camel’s back? I think not. It’s a setup.

rushthis
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Sterling SAID it was his voice AND his views. Why aren’t you acknowledging that?

steven lahaie
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Who gives a rat behind what Sterling’s views are. He’s an idiot for having a conversation like that with his so called girl friend in the first place. There are still a ot of idiots out there, but should that exempt them from participating in free enterprise?

Joe White
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What you fail to mention is that Donald Sterling admitted to it being his voice after confronted by the league. No forensics needed when you have an admission of guilt.

steven lahaie
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Let me ask you? Did Sterling commit some kind of crime that he should be prosecuted for? Not sure what color you are, but have you ever heard any black make disparaging remarks about white folk? Thought so.

MarieLanza
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Sterling is still married and his wife is suing the bimbo for all the gifts back that he gave her. She said he was using her money to buy the bimbo gifts. So the bimbo either did it to get revenge or get famous. We all know she didn’t do it because she thought he was so wrong.

J Smith.
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She’s half black and half mexican. You really don’t think his comments pissed her off?

Pam Dunn
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NOT AS LONG AS THE MONEY WAS FLOWING ; Nothing but an over paid “HO”

Memphis Viking
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From what I’ve heard she did threaten to get even.

Jason Grant
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I found several things outrageous, but the most outrageous were the questions about who is going to buy the team. Nevermind he hasn’t agreed to sell and no vote has taken place to force him out. Yet the media is already out there deciding who is oging to own this team. And it must be a minority owner according to these people. How is it not a HUGE conflict of interest to let Magic Johnson by the team when he was a cetnral part of what started the whole mess/ He just happens to be in a picture with this… Read more »
mountainaires
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Sterling says he won’t sell. But yes, this is a “robbery.” It’s also a clear Constitutional violation. A person cannot be FORCED TO SELL HIS BUSINESS BECAUSE OF HIS OPINIONS.

Vbolenko
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Maybe he could sue Stiviano and TMZ in civil court for illegally taping and recover his losses. Otherwise nice diversion shiny object from the other important news of the day.

ThomasDanielFrain
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He can also prefer criminal prosecution for the crimes committed against him. If we had a functional Department of Justice, he could hope for a Federal prosecution for Civil Rights violations. We don’t, so that isn’t going to happen.

mountainaires
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He should sue the NBA and I hope he does, for violating his rights under the First Amendment.

Temporary ID
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How about we let Sterling say disgusting things in his own home, and we let the NBA choose who can or cannot be a member of its club?

mountainaires
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Seriously? The NBA can dictate to a business owner that they must be banned for life, fined and ordered to sell their business because of privately expressed opinions? That is a clear violation of the First Amendment, friend. Do you or do you not support the Constitution? If you do, you must then defend Sterling’s right to his obnoxious opinions, whether you agree with them or not. Surely West disagrees with them; but he’s pointing out to you that the NBA has now dictated punishment for THOUGHT CRIMES.

Gene Linet
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Except the constitution applies to government organizations. Are you aware that the NBA is not a part of the government?

Jim
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You sir are a great American and I agree with nearly everything you say. However, in this case, the Clippers are a franchise of the NBA. Just like most chain restaurants are businesses that you can own one or several franchises. The stores are yours, but you must follow certain rules. This is to ensure that a customer knows a McDonalds is a McDonalds and a Pizza Hut is a Pizza Hut no matter the location or owner. Imagine a McDonalds franchise owner embarrassing the McDonalds name by it becoming public he does not want black people eating there. McDonalds… Read more »
mountainaires
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Stop it. Sterling’s opinions may be vile, but that is precisely what the Founding Fathers wrote the First Amendment to protect. FREEDOM OF SPEECH means all speech, not just speech we condone, but also speech we condemn. West is arguing the proper points here, and I applaud his intellectual honesty in doing so. All Conservatives should be doing so.

Jim Welsh
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I thought freedom of speech protections only applied when the gov’t or their agents try to censor or punish speech?

David Whitmore
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Nope. Freedom is… Just that. Freedom.

Michael Taylor
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I think you are missing the point. True, the NBA is a private franchise and, within reason, can do what they want. But is this what we as private citizens want to see? At what point does it end? On this slipper slope of judgment, who makes the decision on what is punishable and what is acceptable? Personally, I think this guy is a jerk but as Americans, we have the right to be jerks. I am assuming that you are as guiltless as the new-driven snow. That you have never uttered, in the privacy of your own home, thoughtless… Read more »
mountainaires
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Yes, that is precisely the issue here: Where do we draw the line on THOUGHT CRIME? Paula Deen was lynched because she uttered the N-word decades prior. Is this appropriate? No. We’re living in an age where they clamor for all piggies being “equal” but some piggies are more equal than others. (Animal Farm). That’s when you know that we’ve crossed over the line.

Billy.
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Fun fact: Animal farm was written by a socialist. If you think the book was supposed to be an attack on socialism you missed the point, it was a critical attack on Stalin specifically.

Michael Taylor
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I like the Animal Farm reference. You know, in high school I read Animal Farm and 1984 and I thought, “This is crap! This stuff could NEVER happen.” Well, guess who was an idiot in high school?

Billy.
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Also my guess is that you were the idiot in high school but mainly because you’re an idiot now

Billy.
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fun fact: Animal farm was written by a socialist. If you think the book was supposed to be an attack on socialism you missed the point, it was a critical attack on Stalin specifically.

MarieLanza
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So then I guess the NFL should fine, suspend or fire Martellus Bennett for all his racist remarks against whites. But we know that will never happen

David Whitmore
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Did they do that to Mark Cuban?

bigchuckie
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Sterling definitely sucks. My only thought is what he said was a private conversation. Dont some states have recording awareness rights? If I say Obama sucks in my home What is there to stop anyone from declaring me an A hole and punish me by taking my house? I know this is far fetched and reaching but……

Mary Jo
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Another slight of hand that has everyone focused on the small, albeit lousy personality of a citizen, while the government goes about its new normal of stealing our liberties and holding us prisoners in our own country with forced laws created through lies.

android
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I agree, Col West, but this is not a productive use of our side’s time or effort. This ignorant old man doesn’t speak for me and he doesn’t speak for you. To the extent this has to be discussed at all, it seems to me the discussion should begin and end with condemnation of the comments.

As conservatives we should focus our efforts on winning in November and beginning the process of healing the country. Discussing race when we know that the other side is nothing but a collection of disgusting race hustlers who WANT to discuss race is a mistake.

mountainaires
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I disagree completely; Conservatives should focus on advancing the Constitution, and should always argue on the right side of the Constitution whenever possible. This is a blatant violation of Sterling’s constitutional rights, and Conservatives need to point that out. I am glad to see West doing that. Think about what the NBA just did: They banned a man for life, fined him, and ordered him to sell his business because they didn’t like his personal OPINIONS. It’s THOUGHT CRIMES writ large.

android
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I agree on everything but the strategic benefit to “advancing the Constitution” by hitching our wagon to an 80 year-old racist. I am unashamedly advocating doing EVERYTHING necessary to win elections. That includes picking our spots when it comes to stuff like this.

mountainaires
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It’s not “hitching our wagon” to anything but the CONSTITUTION. Opinions are not illegal. “Picking our spots” is not helpful, because then we are simply hypocrites and cowards just like liberals.

android
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No. Now you crossed the line. This is a perfect example of why our side loses and how the likes of the people running the country now win. Who the ____ are you to call anyone a hypocrite or a coward? I agreed with you that the “punishment” doesn’t fit the crime. I simply don’t agree that it is a good idea to waste political capital on the issue.

Coward? ____ you! I simply want my country back.

conserv&preserve
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Actually, you are correct again, Mr Sterling is a racist jerk, no doubt about it. There are a lot of issues at work with the NBA decision on the ban and the fine. Does this mean that any time someone is offended my a racial statement will they get the same punishment. What about any black player that might call a white player cracker or White bread in the heat of competition? Or a white player saying the N word??? As I recall, Pete Maravich faced a lot of problems with the black players on the Atlanta Hawks!! The NBA… Read more »
Esperance Dawson
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These are the same points I made to a reporter. The answer was I report just the facts. My thoughts then were you are not a very good reporter if you just report was is being said by other media outlets. Why not dig down and ask the who what and why?

Michelle C. Laviera-Jones
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Michelle C. Laviera-Jones

Why does Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton get away with the same kind of talk?

Ghost Of Len Bias
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Do they? Last I heard Jesse Jackson was a maligned anti-semite and Sharpton a snitch. They’re aren’t contractually bound to not be trolls.

In fact, it’s essentially their jobs.

Juliette Akinyi Ochieng
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Because they work for entities which let them get away with it or want them to talk the way they talk.

android
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Because THAT is the world created by the Obama years. These disgusting people that have made a living off of dividing us against ourselves have had the floor for long enough.

Let’s keep our eyes on the prize and win elections so we can get back to being the United States of America again.

Lori Alayne Weber Miller
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Lori Alayne Weber Miller

Okay , dried up dessicated, age spotted turkey waddle necked elderly rich guy has an extremely hot young multiracial GF,. So she records him complaining about her inviting and appearing publicly with studly black guys( not women mind you , black men specifically) to the games. Are you sure this is a race issue and not an old rich white guys ego issue?

Guest
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Wait, you hate old rich white guys!!! You are strongly urged to sell your house and move out of the neighborhood, You are no longer allowed to be seen in Walmart as most of the people in walmart are white. This is the same thing he has done. Talked about someone using a descriptive word and he is being crucified for it. By you saying old rich white guys, you are on his level. This is the slippery slope this has opened, Mark Cuban better watch his mouth, if he says anything at all from now on, You know the… Read more »
Faye Farlow
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I completely agree!!!!!

Knew-it.
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Couldn’t agree with you more Col. West. I told the wife last night Sterling said some offensive things, he obviously has some racial problems, but he never said the one word (on tapes I heard) that would get an NFL lineman a 15 yard penalty, nor did he actually ever say he didn’t like blacks. He actually denied disliking blacks when prompted by the little mistress… and he is actually the one paying the bills for millions to his black players, coach, and others. The man has a right to his private opinions.. and it is appaling that any governing… Read more »
Mary Ann
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Several things that are worth commenting on here, First, I agree with you Mr. West, neing a jerk, a racist, etc. does not give anyone authorization to relieve you of your assets without due process, least of all. Additionally, the fact that the NBA thinks it can make such overreach is another point worth discussion. Lastly, if someone in the NBA were to give this even an iota of thought, they would allow Sterling to keep the team and then watch it fold right under him because what black players would want to play for him? What white players would… Read more »
bill c
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Congressman, I agree with you most of the time. but I have to point a few things out. His property is not being seized. He will be forced to sell the team and make a ridiculous profit in doing so. He agreed to the terms and conditions of the league’s by-laws when he bought the team. Essentially being a racist moron is grounds for forfeiting his right to be in this club of owners and it should be. This is not government run amuck, it is a group of businessman throwing out an owner that is bad for business. Nothing… Read more »
H.
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I have to ask though, do you know what the NBA by laws are? Obviously not, because if that were the case then they could have banned him and fined him once he had a judgement against him in court when he was denying rental properties to Blacks. That should have been more than enough reason to ban him and force him to sell the team, yet it never happened. Not until an illegally recorded tape was released to the press and the race baiters took over. I imagine there is something in the contract about a code of conduct,… Read more »
Juliette Akinyi Ochieng
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Thank you for the clarity.

Conservative4Ever
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His millions confiscated is his property.

Tony M
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You have a point, but it was a private conversation between he and his girlfriend who may have taped him illegally. The outrage is overstated and misplaced. What he did was sad, what she did was against the law and there is no coverage of it.

mountainaires
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1) Sterling was taped with his knowledge as far as I can tell, but that ignores the clear fact that he didn’t give permission for his private conversations TO BE LEAKED. 2) The NAACP has been taking Sterling’s money for years with the full knowledge that he had paid a fine for discriminating against blacks in his rental properties; 3) Liberal fascists and their vacuous sheep have now gone beyond the pale: A business owner can be ordered to sell his business because of his privately uttered opinions. This is tantamount to imprisoning someone for a THOUGHT CRIME. And, 4)… Read more »
Royal Stanley
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Sir, how do you know he was taped “with his knowledge” as stated in #1?

mountainaires
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He and Stiviano had an agreement that she would tape hundreds of hours of conversations, because his memory was bad. (News reports). He gave consent to the taping; he did NOT give consent to the LEAKING. But that is not the point; the point is SINCE WHEN ARE OPINIONS ILLEGAL? Cluebird: They aren’t. They may be vile; they may be unpopular; they may be racist. They are STILL not ILLEGAL. Only ACTIONS are punishable legally in this country. Do you get the distinction?

Juliette Akinyi Ochieng
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Sterling has not been legally prosecuted for his opinions.

Dave Goldinger
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Two words…Paula Dean…she was chastised & robbed of her livelihood over a racial slur made with a gun pointed to her head. & this all happened over 20 years ago……We as a country are so frightened over “offending” people that it’s a joke anymore….When did anyone ever consider that we as Americans are offended every day of our lives by sick, lieing people in power by giving away our rights of freedom as well as our country to illegals & people of differnet religions……This entire fiasco infuriates me…I Am proud to be an American but my patience is waning.

Metalmoto
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Okay, so this douchebag has some pretty radical thinking on race. Sure, most Americans don’t agree with his views, but those are only his views. If we started running people out of their businesses or firing them or even arresting them because we don’t agree with their views, there would be no businesses to hire people. There would be extreme unemployment and there wouldn’t be enough prisons and jails to house everyone. So his views are racist and reprehensible. But has he held anyone back or unfairly treated because of his views? On the contrary, the bulk of his employees… Read more »
Phineas Worthington
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I have posed this same question myself. In principle, I agree that words should not be the sole justification for the deprivation of property by law. However, private contracts are a different matter. It is my understanding that the owners of pro sports franchises sign contracts with agreement clauses like morals clauses that can be a means to take away ownership. Something of a subjective criterion to cancel a contract to be sure, but its there. The first amendment is only a restriction upon the power of the central government. Contractual agreements of these owners with sports franchises are an… Read more »
Dad
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@ Phineas Worthington…. You say, “contracts are a different matter entirely” because of “morals Clauses”. Who then desides what is moral and what is not? Obviously here in America there aren’t to many morals left as I know morals to be. We kill babies in the mothers womb known as Abortion. We allow same sex folks to marry each other, know as homosexuals. We allow our schools to hand out condoms to our children and our doctors to put those same children on the pill to stop them from getting pregnant and if they want an abortion they can get… Read more »
Phineas Worthington
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The parties involved in the contract define the terms. We are a society of contract after all, not a society of status.

Though, I would agree with the assessment that nihilism, the rejection of all objective moral values, is epidemic in our culture.

Rodney DeShong
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Sports builds character.It’s okay to show the support for a thug like Travon Martin and have a hoody night. The white guy gets pissed at his wife and gets stupid. How many people get pissed off, by their spouse and say stupid things? What he said was definitely wrong. To get mad at a true athlete and role model like Magic Johnson, just shows how stupid he really is.

magnetik
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Magic Johnson’s hands ain’t clean either. It’s starting to appear this woman set Sterling up so Magic’s Guggenheim partners could make a play for the Clippers. Seems odd for him to come out and say that Sterling should no longer be allowed to own a team.. then come out and say he and his group are interested.

Deanna Bishop
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Don’t forget the gold digging slut was sleeping with Johnson and half the team. He was an embarrsed by her. In his place I would of kicked her to the curb. Fired all of the players that choose to listen to her lies. Cancelled the contracts of any player refusing to play for not doing their jobs of playing. On top of that now Johnson wants the team. I call it fowl and a set up. Read between the lines. I hope she gives all of them Aids just like Johnson gave her.

debw777
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I agree with you 100%. I have to admit I haven’t listened to the entire tape, but all I heard was a cranky old white jerk who doesn’t like and/or want to associate with black people. I also heard the woman egging him on and trying to get him to say worse, more racist things. For what it’s worth, I didn’t hear him say he hated blacks, he didn’t make fun of them or threaten to hurt anyone. He did sound drunk or medicated. Now the public, the media, black celebrities are making this sound like he’s committed a crime,… Read more »
Mother Nature's Son
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what he said was she could sleep with them for all he cares, just dont bring them to the game. he was talking about her god damned i-phone and her video chatting everything she was doing. I cant blame him for that. make it into a sows ear. if they want a civil war, just say so. there are plenty of willing participants, they can quit the gender bending and pretense. by the way, dont forget about all the israel talk and the black jews he was talking about being treated like dogs. magic the aids factory forgot to whine… Read more »
Mother Nature's Son
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obviously this fossil was paid off to usher in some new Negro only rules. I really dont care about the professional sports players anymore. they will switch genders for cash, and lie cheat steal and murder for gutter snipe reasons. take your cash and go to hell.
i’ll not associate with them or their ilk. imaginary girlfriends, composite presidents, suspect hermaphrodites in politics. just stay away from me.

IKKY

Dick
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Mother Nature’s Son, I agree with you and many of the previous comments, but don’t forget the progeny some of these hotshots leave behind for us, tax payers, to support. And we admire them?

Tony M
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My wife and I had this discussion last night. What was said by Sterling is sad and disturbing. To think a man in his position has not evolved past those thoughts is disheartening to many of us. That being said, my wife and I agree with you Mr. West, People are entitled to have thoughts, people are entitled to not like other people and people used to be entitle to a private conversation about those thoughts. What she did was likely illegal. Where is the outrage over that? Media led and fed by design. Our country needs sane leaders like… Read more »
Manny
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Ask Florida if they need a leader like Uncle Tom West you right wing racist twit.

Tony M
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Manny, I find comments like this incredible. First, because I did not condone what the owner did. So calling me a racist has no factual basis. Second, calling Col. Alan West an Uncle Tom, indicates that you are the racist. Finally, Manny, when you call names as you did to two people no less, in only one sentence … you have lost all credibility and the argument.

Roberta Welch
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why is that so disturbing noone knows what she said to him for him to come to that point how about what Oprah said all white older white people should all die because they are born and bred how about another guy said all white people should be exterminated so blacks could have a chance a chance for what you don’t here anything about them all he said is don’t bring them to the game and that merits fining him millions and forcing him to sell you they are not making this easier by punishing him for his thoughts out… Read more »
Tony M
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Hi Roberta, you have a valid point (in my opinion) that his perspective may have tainted by her urging and perhaps that fact that he was simply jealous. I cannot speak about the other comments as I have never heard of them. Also, based on your overall reply, it seems as though you only read the first sentence of my comment. Be well Roberta.

Mark
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Absolutely love Mr. West. Our liberties are being attacked and eroded within our houses thanks to precedent set by this President and the enabling mainstream media. Thanks Mr. West for your integrity – we need more leadership just like you!

lorr111
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Can we get the real problem…. why are the NBA and the NFL non profit ?? So when he sales the team he has to pay no taxes.

Rick
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An owner who sells their team will pay significant taxes; the “league” may be non profit, but the individual team is a for profit business.

Deborah Lundy
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If everyone who is a jerk got arrested there wouldn’t be enough left to guard them. Most all of us are jerks by someone’s standards at one time or another.

Nina Barber
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I definitely agree that we have greater issues to focus on than a stupid ball game. However, I must say that although I hate racism as much as the next person I don’t agree that anyone has the right to tell you what to believe in or how you should feel. There will always be someone who hates someone else for whatever reason. I say we grow some thicker skin and get on with the important issues in life. And we definitely shouldn’t have the right to take another persons property or money because of the stupidity that comes out… Read more »
Scotty Mac
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This isn’t even about race. It’s about social and moral character. Stiviano was hanging out with other members of her class. She wasn’t dating Stirling, she was his business associate. In the Walters interview, she said the issue was that she was bringing gangsters, thugs and prostitutes to the games when Sterling wasn’t there. Her friends were predominately black, but the issue is that they were black gangsters and thugs. There are white gangsters and thugs, but the ones she was hanging with were black. That’s the only reason he ended up categorically telling her just to not bring blacks.… Read more »
Strength_Honor
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Obama intentionally lies to the country for years, issues half an apology after being busted, and everything’s cool — except our health care and insurance is cancelled, billions are wasted, and the worst is yet to come?!?!? And then there’s Benghazi, the IRS, NSA, Fast & Furious. But hey, he’s our first black preezy of the united steezy.

But an old man tells his prostitute girlfriend in private to stop cavorting in public with black athletes and it’s catastrophic crime time.

Are Americans really buying this nonsense? Really?

Dunzie
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Remember liberals believe our rights end where their feelings begin.

FIRE THEM ALL- 2014
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Sadly what I think this is all about is a very old man who was dating a woman 50 years younger, who didn’t want to lose her to anyone, so he didn’t want her bringing younger “men” to the games with her, or posing with other men. Money can’t buy happiness, and this is just more proof that it sometimes makes us very foolish as well. He should never have trusted a woman 50 years his junior with his heart, and certainly not with his confidences. She betrayed him for her own gain. In another time, a man like this… Read more »
MrLogical
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Spot on.
100.00%

Manny
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He didn’t say he didn’t want her to bring younger men to games, he said he didn’t want her to bring BLACK men to games you clueless right wing racist twit.

FIRE THEM ALL- 2014
Guest

Oh let me ask you, how do you feel about whites? How about Native Americans. Don’t talk to me about racism, blacks got pushed to projects where they could be found, my ancestors got pushed onto land that wouldn’t support them and have been forced to accept government handouts for over a century.

When will all of you realize hanging onto the past isn’t going to change the future?

Royal Stanley
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Why isn’t anyone chastising Al Sharptongue who has called on blacks to riot against the NBA and the Clippers?? This man got the country riled up with the big lie about Tawana Brawley and his false rape allegations just to name one of many lawless things he has done but like Soetoro he is a god in the eyes of the radical libs.

Rick
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Right on Allen! In this case, the NBA is saying they will force a sale in order to appease the low-information fan who doesn’t fully understand the situation.

Toni Mitchell
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Ok……While I find Sterlings comments reprehensible and all our constitution gives him the right to make those comments. It really has nothing to do with privacy although that was violated. He has the right to be a bigot and a racist. He has the right to say anything he likes. The NBA has violated his rights. I feel that a better punishment would have been to fine him and then if people don’t like what he said………just don’t go to his games. If you do this then you hit him where it hurts…….in the pocketbook. Wake up people….if they take… Read more »
Manny
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Tell your boss your racist views are your ‘constitutional rights’ and see if you don’t get fired.

David Streever
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Toni, can you tell me where in the Constitution it says that?

I’m pretty sure that Freedom of Speech applies only to the government.

Is there a line in the Constitution that prevents private citizens from having contracts with each other??? Sterling had a contract with the NBA, that specified this; do you think that it is illegal for companies to form contracts?

Ghost Of Len Bias
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Who’s freedom of speech was taken? He entered into an agreement with his organization that if he had conduct detrimental to the league, he could face consequences. He [finally] has.

jrus51
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If you don’t like the guy why…..”don’t buy from his store” quit the team, do not go to the games, hell, refuse to talk to him! Since I do not follow the NBA I never heard of this guy before last week,now he is the major story. I think this is blown up to obfuscate the real problems facing our country. ……. and it is working. FOCUS.

stroot
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Do none of you realize that it impacts more than just the Clippers, or am I missing something? Do the Clippers only play their starters vs. their backups at their own arena which Sterling owns, or do they play against other NBA teams, in another owner’s arena (and other owners’ arenas around the league)? Did you stop to think for one second that those teams’ revenues (and the NBA as a whole) would be impacted by this? I honestly think many of you spend under four seconds to formulate an opinion, and run with that without thinking again for the… Read more »
Robert Rhyne
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I have always said, that the two things I hate are liars and thieves, Obumma is both. I am so sick of hearing about this Sterling crap, when our country is going to hell in a handbasket because of the actions and policies, of our elected officials. Don’t we have more important things to worry about?

Paul Powell
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“There can be no debate that the words of Mr. Sterling were reprehensible and disgusting.” The entire 9 plus minutes of the recording does not portray the crime that Sterling is being vilified for. Listening to the tape and trying to build a real world narrative that explains that bizarre conversation I am left with the following. A power hunger man who is dating a half black woman. He states he loves blacks and minorities but he’s being humiliated by his friends calling him about who is girlfriend associates with. That his social circle has conventions that he must abide… Read more »
tvlgds
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Exactly. His words were primarily directed at her for publicly humiliating him with pictures of her and her lovers on social media. I wish the media, and everyone else would focus on the destruction of our country and not the inarticulate words of Clive Bundy, and the release of a private conversation recorded by a vindictive woman. The fact that the lamestream media has not ONCE mentioned that he’s a democrat is very telling, too. Had he been a Republican, we’d be hearing that with every mention of his name

Jane Harris Bennett
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totally agree.

Peggy Sue Hickman
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Well said…my first thought was the legality of the taped conversation. I hope someone takes the ball to the other end of the court and protects our right to free speech in the privacy of our own home.

Cindy
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I tried to say this on fb myself. Someone commented about contracts but I don’t believe you sign a contract to own a team do you? I could be wrong.

John Jackson
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“don’t believe you sign a contract to own a team” Its called a franchise agreement which he signed and violated.

Cindy
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Well that I understand.

Richard Helm
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The worst of this is that Sterling’s behavior was previously known for a few decades. Heck he has even been hauled into court. This does not reflect upon Sterling nor does it absolve him of being this way (although he has every right to be as nasty and vile as he wishes). What this length of time does reflect upon are all the detractors, NBA Officials, Sponsors, Players, and racial Activists who already were privy to this and had for the longest time said nothing. The sad truth of this matter is not about Sterling but upon all those who… Read more »
tiredofstupid2
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Very well stated. I am so tired of people being convicted by our media.

Commenter XYZPDQ
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yeah, his words didn’t convict him. The media did. You got it there buddy.

you must be tired of yourself.

tiredofstupid2
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No, I am really tired of people like you.

Commenter XYZPDQ
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The feeling is mutual. The words he said speak for themselves; the media is just how you found out about it on this one.

Odayuko-Shah Helen
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Thank God! It is reassuring to know that good sense still does prevail. Everyone here is right on! It is a knee-jerk of appeasement, fueled by emotion. No doubt Sterling is a racist jerk, but the Constitution protects the right of EVERYONE to express their stupidity, ignorance, racism, bigotry, and hatred and religious vitriol as with Westboro. When we exact control on one’s expression of belief, no matter how offensive, when it does not break the law, we have started down a slippery slope! Being an idiot is anyone’s right! I am afraid Sterling will have the last word on… Read more »
seanbone
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Ok, this guy says he loves black people and doesn’t use the N-word…..sounds like a racist to me——take all his money & give it to Obama———big difference between racist, bigoted, & prejudiced.

Chris Rog
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Come on West. Must you spin everything into an Obama attack. I don’t like Obama either, but you are starting to sound like a broken record….

….Benghazi… Obama is a liar… Benghazi…. Obamacare sucks…. Benghazi….

You’re starting to sound like a one trick pony.

dissengage
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You had some valid points. Too bad you had to ruin it with your partisan hatred for the POTUS. It’s all about taking worthless jabs at Obama with you guys isn’t it. Maybe if you gave Obama the same attempt at understanding and support that you’ve given this racist ass, our country would be better off today than it is. But that’s the whole point with you and the Repubs. You have to let the country suffer for the good of the Republican Party. Way to go. Party before the people, the Republican motto. No wonder your party is so… Read more »
Steve Blackmon
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Nice Democratic viewpoint. All of your points could be turned around and used by a Republican supporter to slam the Democratic party. There’s never been a political party that was not “party before the people”. Each party wants to be in control, in power. And I’m not a Republican, just a veteran outsider who’s learned to recognize both parties for who they are.

dissengage
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I’m a liberal, not a Dem. Both parties are corrupt and yes, so is our President. It seems to me like the Repubs have given up on pretending to care for the will of the people and are only on a mission to slander Obama and Obamacare. Hey, lets waste $73 mil symbolically repealing the ACA instead of improving it! And trust me, I’m not saying the Dems are perfect for one second (nor the ACA). That’s why I’m registered NPA. Our government is nothing but a mouthpiece for the Billionaires and they pick, choose, and switch which party gets… Read more »
Artic Cat
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Disengage, I respectfully disagree with your assessment of West’s “worthless jabs” at Obama. My real job is to analyze human behavior. This is not about Reps or Dems. Its about BEHAVIOR. I can’t speak for Mr. West, but I suspect Mr. West would jab at Reps if they were acting irresponsibly because Mr. West appears to value results and integrity and character. Being unable to assess a person’s faults is as destructive as overemphasizing the strengths. This particular administration is rife with questionable activities, hence the ongoing slaught of “jabs”. Generally speaking, where there is smoke, fire is not far… Read more »
dissengage
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While I appreciate the civility of your response, I do not for one second believe that a man like Allen West would ever truly jab at his own party. He is one of the firm believers in partisan politics. But, I did find one quote where he chastised a Republican. Of course it was a woman, because he’s also a misogynist, like most Republican leaders (not voters) appear to be these days. And to respond to your question, should we not have focused on behavior and audited results in the previous administrations 13 embassy incidents to help improve our security… Read more »
philla12
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What is happening to this country? The flavor of the month right now is “racism.” Really spiteful, untrue and nasty things are said about people, especially by politicians trying to score points, but nothing is said about that. Those who are trying to jump on the self-righteous bandwagon – “see what a good person I am, I’m condemning someone so I must be SUCH a good person” are showing extremely low intelligence. We hear “Our poor president, things like that were never said about Bush.” Are these people crazy, do they not have ears? None so foolish as those that… Read more »
Tyree Dawson
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I was gonna commend you on an article without the mention of Obama. Then came the last paragraph. I don’t like jerks, which includes you.

Guest
Guest

I would rather have someone tell the truth and have it hurt than to constantly be lied to so I can live in a bubble.

Tressia Langston
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Sometimes the truth is evident. And it can certainly hurt. I can see how his correlation is accurate, though. However you are entitled to your misguided opinion.

Arthur Nickerson
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I also think there is another suspicious thing here. Ms. Stivano was seen with Magic Johnson, who after this came out was quoted as saying he was interested in buying the team and he also called for an “all black league”. Who is the opportunistic raciest now?

Sharron
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…and racist*

mj
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You know that it was Larry Johnson who called for an all black league and that Magic cannot own an NBA franchise because he is part of an ownership group for the Dodgers right? The only person who has mentioned interest in the team is Floyd Mayweather, so basically you lumped three different people who are black together as the same person. Who is racist…pretty clearly it’s you.

Joe White
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Says who? Of course he can own an NBA franchise. There’s no caveat that you can’t own other sports franchises in different leagues. He’s also a part owner of the LA Sparks WNBA team. Get your facts straight.

Arthur Nickerson
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Actually it was reported that Magic was interested yesterday. http://www.latimes.com/sports/basketball/nba/lakers/la-sp-clippers-new-owner-20140430,0,753070.story#axzz30NWUMipa.
You are right about the LARRY Johnson quote, my mistake. It was misquoted in the story I read.
I am NOT a racist, I think we all should be known as AMERICANS instead of African-American or Asian-American, etc…Let’s start trying to unify instead of driving more wedges into America.
But, by the way that still only makes 2 people, not 3. Learn to count.

Mike Willey
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Actually MJ said he was not interested in buying the team and Larry Johnson called for an all black league.

BMac
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“Where TMZ is considered the news”… Wake Up America, You are going to lose!!

Artic Cat
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OMG, I laughed so hard at this post! America has the attention span of 140 characters or less.

DO'Riley
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I see lawsuits all over the place the Lawyers are licking their chops!