5000 legal students in Florida to lose their tuition to illegals

Everyone talks about the American Dream but are we purposefully ruining it for American kids? I always find it interesting how liberal progressives use oxymoronic labels for their legislative proposals. Take for example the “Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act” or how about the “Consumer Finance and Protection Bureau?” This particular story refers to the “Dream Act” which seeks to provide opportunities to illegal immigrant children that the liberal progressives so warmly renamed as “dreamers” — heck, I’m a dreamer, and I’m dreaming that President Obama would just walk out of the White House.

My friend and fellow retired Army officer, Dr. Rich Swier, has posted some interesting factoids about enabling the dreams of illegals over the aspirations and dreams of Americans.

Swier writes, “In a report released by Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) the impact of providing College Tuition Subsidy for Illegal Aliens (HB851/SB1400, a.k.a. in-state tuition) will be that approximately 5,000 legal students will be displaced in Florida higher level institutions by illegal alien students. These legislators are unwilling to raise taxes for the additional illegal alien students by expanding capacity so legal students will consequently be displaced.” This means a lot to me because I have one daughter in college in Florida and another who will graduate high school in 2015. What of their dreams?

While the number of displaced legal students and fiscal cost vary slightly between HB851 and SB1400 the estimates are similar:

– HB851 will displace of 5,026 legal students.
– SB1400 will displace 5,175 legal students.
– The fiscal cost of HB851 is estimated at $21.7 million.

– The fiscal cost of SB1400 is estimated at $22.7 million.

The full report is available here.

You see, politicians are quite manipulative in the use of poll-tested verbiage to drive the electorate — we, the people — to their desired outcome. No one wants to feel as though they are taking away someone’s “dream.” However, are our priorities so misaligned that we will sacrifice our own American children for the political gain of these charlatans and usurpers?

I will not, and this is truly a bipartisan issue. As Dr. Swier points out, “While Democrats have consistently supported college tuition subsidy for illegal aliens, only recently has Republican leadership supported the measure. The impetus for Republicans to support the benefit seems to be a distorted belief that Governor Rick Scott’s sagging poll numbers will be bolstered.”

American college students are being saddled with tremendous student loan debt and decreasing viable job opportunities upon graduation. And instead of focusing on them, we’re going to use American taxpayer dollars to get votes? There is no logic in this unless you are a politician focused on winning at any cost, and your highly paid consultant is driving you to believe this is the best means to garner support of certain demographics. Are the days long gone when leaders actually addressed the interests of American citizens? Are we in the era when only collective special interests are considered, and regular schmoes be damned?

Let’s send a message not just across Florida, but all across America. We have open doors, we don’t want open borders and we certainly want to fulfill the dreams of OUR children first.

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The_Patriot
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It’s all in the name of votes, votes that will be for democrats. they are making give me people out of the students as fast as they can. Illegals should be sent home where they came from and come in legally if they can

JJay278
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Wow, I don’t know how to put into words how disgusting I find this…

tulet
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All I can say is What has happened to America.

donnapalladino
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Barack Obama and the progressives in our Congress is what happened to America.

ShiekYerbouti
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I think there is a reason O is such an improbable person for President.
The puppet masters want people, especially the Tea party and the
conservatives pointing out all the falsehoods, crimes, arrogance, sealed
records, fake birth certificate etc
The puppet masters want us
spending all our time complaining and watching the left hand while the
right hand is up to something really shifty. O is a distraction, from
what is really going on..

Lorraine
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Someone else said “If the illegals coming across the border were republican voters, that fence would get put up immediately.”

Smoltzfan
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That is so true

Smoltzfan
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This is so sad that our children are being treated this way. Enforce our laws & deport illegal aliens. Stop with the undocumented workers. call them what they are

Reba
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My question is who in the Conservative Ring is going to run against Scott?

akatom3565
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It is about gathering votes, LBJ would be proud!

corey2444
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Hey, the Democrats needs the votes and when they say “people need to tighten their belts”, they mean everyone..

del
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America is a proud state, so why would you attempt the suffering of cost in such a scenario?

MsJan1955
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Both parties are in for a rude awakening if they think they’ll win votes by catering to illegal aliens. Americans are sick to death of supporting every country except their own!

Heartland Patriot
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Well, just about all the Democrats LOVE illegal aliens…and obviously some of the RINOs do, too. Don’t vote for them, vote for actual conservatives.

stever777
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Pandering to certain groups is what politicians do. Pandering to special interest groups, legalized graft commonly practiced by lobbies are destroying this nation from within.

Desiree Seifert
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This is a disgrace and what I want to know is HOW is this even legal??

Thomas Meadows
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It isn” yet but if these laws pass they will be

Reba
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This Floridian, is matter than hell.

bobfairlane
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Anti-whites don’t worry about laws. They are here to break all of them.

tammytnt
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I read your comment wrong. When the President tells police and schools not to punish blacks when they break the rules, or you have to punish as many whites and Orientals as you do blacks, that is crazy. Everyone knows Orientals are the least likely to act out. If they only punish one black per one Oriental, 100’s of blacks will get away without punishment. That will encourage all kids to break the rules. Bad policy. But the attitude is from the top

Rena
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Its not only affecting whites but all Americans White, Black, Brown etc…

49_67_71_77
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It is time to march in the streets, etc. Our ancestors did not want this foolishness.

Reba
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May 16, 2004
http:patriotsforamerica.ning.com

Kachina Lively
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The only thing we can count on is change~ We are taught to try to accept the things we cannot change and embrace that which we can change. Americans forget they are stronger than the few yo-yo’s sitting in high places. WE the People!! Nothing can take that away from US! If we do not like the change being shoved down our throats without our consent, approval or vote..then we best speak up, LOAD AND CLEAR!

aemoreira81
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You would think that some enterprising lawyer would be making a case for a class-action lawsuit, as these 5K students have experienced harm at the hands of government.

Reba
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This is a bad bill and was not supposed to pass. I will be amazed if all hell doesn’t break out in Florida.
From a Floridian.

Swed.
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You get exactly what you tolerate.

lokiswife
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The government needs to send all illegal immigrants back to their home country and tell them that if they want to come back to the US, to apply for legal immigration in their home country. Get in line behind the legal immigrants who started the process years ago, it’s not easy, it takes time but if you’re not willing to do it, stay in your home country. Just because you walked across an open border and said “I’m here, you need to take care of me” doesn’t mean that you will soon become a legal citizen with all the benefits… Read more »
Reba
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Neither side plans on doing anything, but let them stay and keep milking the system.

docola
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I am so sick of this government! That would be awful if that were to happen. When are we as Americans going to stand up and say no more and actually mean it.

Reba
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Sally Frederick-Tudor
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Sally Frederick Tudor I am a Legal American and I have paid taxes ALL my life, and no one offered to pay for my college!! Which by the way I still owe $50,000. and I
have no way of paying it back with NO job!! Thanks to the POS in the
W.H.!!

Peter
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Be very careful with Jeb Bush, he just said illegal immigration is an act of love. I’m not kidding. Both democrats and republicans are now working against the law abiding citizens.

tammytnt
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No more Bush’s, no more Clinton’s and no more Obama’s We need new blood. I will not vote for any one who is part of these dynasties . We do not need a monarchy running our gov. Out with the old, in with the new

Reba
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He was not the worst Governor we have ever had, but I will not be voting for him if he lands as the President Elect. Same with Governor Scott and I hope a Conservative stands up to run against him.

Heartland Patriot
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I wouldn’t say that all Republicans are working against law-abiding Americans, though some obviously are doing just that. We call those people RINOs (Republicans In Name Only) because they are more like Democrats just calling themselves Republican. Don’t vote for Democrats and don’t vote for RINOs.

tammytnt
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You are right on

beenthere
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“We the people” what to know how you elected to congress can support illegal immigrants and not are own people. Just for the almighty vote and power you lust for, Illegal is the key word here. they have broken the law and you reward them. Keep using you fancy words and politically correct spin and soon it will all collapse. Anything build on lies and fraud will eventually fall.

Norman
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This is why we have the Second Amendment – to protect and assert our rights.

Dale Hess
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All bills from congress should be posted in media 2 months before it is voted on, pro’s and con debated in media so all citizens can respond to this kind of trickery , they want to keep us in the dark until it’s voted on!

tammytnt
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It would be good to give the Houses at least that long to read the bills and find out what is in them before they vote. No bill should ever be signed without a total review on every facit and the time for legal review by non partisan lawyers

MsJan1955
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I fully agree Dale, but I’m pretty sure our opinion would mean nothing and would not be reported truthfully. No one will ever convince me that the 2012 election wasn’t stolen so I’m sure they would manipulate a public opinion pole to fit their needs.

Reba
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All bills need to stand alone, one bill at a time, with nothing else included. No longer than 10-20 pages at the most. PERIOD!

tammytnt
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That would be just too logical.

Reba
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Lol, true.

bobcchicago
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Dale

I think one of Barry’s broken promises was something similar to your idea. I don’t have the time now to google that to be specific but if anyone has a minute perhaps they could.

Nanci Alley
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There is an uprising coming just next month! Join in Operation American Spring, Target date May 16, 2014, Target WDC to bring the American plight to WDC to get the illegal out of our White House & overtake congress. The last I heard it was over 1.8 Million already going to go to oust the corruption in WDC, being lead by 2 of the Generals that was fired by Obama. If you cannot afford to go there they also have chapters in each state as well. Write to your congressmen & women & demand answers!

Reba
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Philanthropussy
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Save your money . This doesn’t sound right . 1.8 m going? With no publicity on social media or T’v? Not even on this site . Sounds like a stunt to solicit funds.

Reba
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Membership is free and no funds have ever been collected.

Reba
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Not on the normal ones, but I’ll have to look which ones. They will as it gets closer.

Philanthropussy
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I grew up in DC and at one point worked around the mall area where all the memorials are. 1 million people on the mall is too much for the area to handle . Do you remember the million man march ? That March took months to plan. Planes, buses , hotels , the ubesy stations. Image . Obama thing was a million people .

Reba
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This planning has been going on for a while.

Philanthropussy
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Wash post, wash times, capital police has nothing. People who do confirm to rally are tea partiers. Maybe more news as rally gets closer . I doubt they will get 100k

Reba
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You think the Capital Police are going to advertise the information they have? What site is that? We will see, because people are getting fed up!

Philanthropussy
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The capital police site. The site would at least give people a warning people to prepare for traffic. Don ‘to be so paranoid. I read the cap police wanted to see tge organizers website. What’s so wrong with that? How difficult could that be .
In a large event like this, you need to realize there other people working and living in the area. Plus, public roads, subways need to be readied for a large amount of people as well as workers going in to work. Relax, you guys are only making it worse.

Reba
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Paranoid? Not me, far from it. I just wanted to go out to the website and look and I’m sure they have had the website forever. What do you mean they want to see the organizers Any town or city needs to prepare for a ton of people, just like we do during Spring Break and the summer months.

Philanthropussy
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The patriot website had no info on transport to the DC. No plane info, bus info, hotels , nothing. I’m still doubtful.

Reba
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It’s not for public view. It’s being worked through each state committee that has formed.

Philanthropussy
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No not really. Maybe some tea party groups or politically mind groups heard about it, I’m not sure thru want to take this serious. Back in 08 that group had a rally , i But there were more people at the protest in front of the White House during the sequester.,
If this was a real rally, the city police would have to get prepared for public safety. I’m going to call a friend I know who works at a DC tv station to see what’s going on.

tammytnt
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Philan..you don’t know everything. I have seen it on many sites and many are calling for everyone to show up or go to your local group and find out where they are going to be locally. The people are going to be in all cities and anywhere anyone wants to organize, that can not make it to DC. Maybe the million will be the accumulation of all the sites. Of course it won’t make a lot of news because anything the people do against this gov goes mostly unnoticed. Maybe what we need to do is act like the liberals… Read more »
Philanthropussy
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Stop with the liverL media craziness. It’s not true. Also , I know the media will cover that demo, but I doubt a million will show up. A very large amount will show up, but not a million in DC. The mall area around the capital is not that big.

tammytnt
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Guess you didn’t read my comment

Philanthropussy
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I read about this demo a couple months ago. They said they were shooting for a million.

tammytnt
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I also said, many will be local, and maybe their total will be included in the million

Philanthropussy
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Yes, sorry for that

DustyFae
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Well, that is the way the ball bounces when voting Democrats… Obama will turn on others to win votes for illegals… Just like he did with the Blacks, He uses people, all democrats use people to gain winning..They lie to gain votes, so people need to wake up and see what they have done, will it be too late now to undo the harm the Democrats done….???

Stephen Stiles
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The thing that needs to be done first is in ALL elections you need a picture ID to vote. This would stop people (illegals) from going to the poles and claiming they are someone else. All you need is a voters name and get to the pole before they vote and you’re in. When they come to vote the real citizen voter will be turned away because it registers that you already voted. Then Congress will have no need for the illegals vote.

Philanthropussy
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West, your kids don’t have to competing with illegals . Can’t they use Affirmative Action to get into any college you want? After all, they are black and they are women . If they were Latina like everybody else on south florida , it would be a trifecta of minorities.

Reba
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You lost me Ms. P.

Philanthropussy
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What, West said he was considered about his kids. I just gave him a suggestion.

afftongrown
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Believe Col. West is above playing the race card!

Philanthropussy
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Using AA is not using the race card

afftongrown
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In a way, it is.

Reba
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I’m sure LTC West can provide for his children. Yes, they might get a discount, but I don’t know that. The issue is illegals receiving tuition. No way should illegals get tuition at the expense of legal Americans or taxpayers. No way should illegals get tuition at the expense of Legal Americans or taxpayers.

Philanthropussy
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As usually West gives you enuff info to piss you off. The issue is illegal kids getting in state tuition. Not a free ride. That’s completely different situation .
I don’t see why they can’t get the discount . They’ve been at school, worked hard and graduated like anyother student. If they are motivated to go to college then why not. These kids don ‘t want to end up like their parents in crummy jobs. They come back to the community and contribute .

tammytnt
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Many are on welfare and there by would be getting free tuition. So you have not taken in the change of their position in society. They should never be put over American kids. They are not a citizen, why should the tax payer pay anything for them, when American kids are in need.

Philanthropussy
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This article is do incredibly mistaken. Dreamers pay or get scholarships. Just like everyone else. Do you know how many prestigious colleges there are in Florida? Plus the state has a huge community college program. And the trade schools are all over the place .

Philanthropussy
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As usually West gives you enought info to piss you off . The truth is the dreamers don’t get free tuition . It’s in state tuition. It’s you pay if yiu were a resident of a state. And a resident in Florida is at least 7 years for education benifits . I know bec I filled out my son’s FL college app . And a “dreamer” is considered any chiid that’s been the US since they were 4 yrs. The dream act was one of the things in Marco Rubio’s immigration plan. Obama said it first though.

tammytnt
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So ,you are saying you are an illegal and you want us to pay for your kid to go to college. Go home, you are not needed here. Your child is taking the education away from an American child. Doesn’t it bother you at all, that you are stealing the future of a kid who deserves that spot in college. Just like everything else, when a illegal comes here, you are taking jobs, welfare, schools, soc sec # etc from real Americans. You are stealing the futures of others, like those waiting in line to come in legally. They are… Read more »
Philanthropussy
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Please don’t think parents have to pay for their kids college. If you sat them down and explained your situation, thru would help out.
It took me 5 yrs to graduate , but I did it without borrowing a dime .

Philanthropussy
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Illegals don’t get a free education!!!! And I was born in the states and payed for my college myself.

inez king
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If you are quoting BO, you are not worth listening to. If he had only one tenth the integrity of Col. West, the world would be a better place.

Philanthropussy
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West is a fool . Who will never come close to anything more an attackdog of for idiots. I’ve never seen him on anyone station other FOX which makes me think he’s not as brave as he claims to be. No solutions come from him only finger pointing .

inez king
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You really need to get informed. You call me an idiot but I did not vote for BO twice or even once. We use to have a great country and look what he and his administration have reduced us to. By the way, I am a democrat but this guy is too much and I am switching parties. You should really try to keep an open mind and watch fox news for a couple times before you write them off. Also I would really be interested to know why you are such a big supporter of Barack Obama.

Philanthropussy
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The idiots I was referring to were media watch dogs. They are the ones who are dividing this country into them vs. us. They mislead and lie know you people are too lazy to think for yourself.

If you want to switch parties, go ahead. Condi Rice, Micheal Bloomberg, Rick Perry were demos then switched. We liberal, progressive democrats will accept you back when you come to your senses.

inez king
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All I can say is good luck with that. I just hope your party wakes up and realizes what is going on. Because the liberal media does not report all the atrocities this administration has committed, you are uninformed. But in a way that is your fault as well because you won’t look at both sides objectively. And by the way I am not too lazy to think for myself. I am looking and researching to make the very best decisions when I vote. You have to admit, this country is not what it use to be. We have become… Read more »
Philanthropussy
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I’m not sure how bad this country has began. In the past ten years this country has made plenty of new billionaires . Keep on blaming Obama fir everything, not to worry. Hiliary will out it together

JeninFortWorth
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Phil – and how do you think illegals get the money to pay for in-state tuition? Tax dollars and scholarships and college provided funds as well.

Philanthropussy
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You do know how a scholarship and college provided work right ? To get federal grants you need up be a citizen . Plus, if a dreamer kid who grew up in FL and has good enough grade for college, why not? Odds are that kid will graduate and contribute to society .
BTW, Texas has the same program thanks to republican Gov Rick Perry.

Reba
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I was already pissed off, because I have been following it. If they have been in the United States since they were 4 years old, then they should be citizens by now, including their parents. Give me a break, because there is no excuse for them not to be American Citizens. SB1400 — a bill that gives illegal-alien students partial tuition waivers and enables them to pay the same in-state tuition rates as Florida residents. Follow the Laws on the books and clean up the mess we have with illegals. I know we don’t agree with this issue. As far… Read more »
tammytnt
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Rubio is done, he proved to be a RINO. We are sick of liars and fakes. After the liar in chief, an honest person would be so refreshing. BTW Philan… Progressive sounds like a good thing, and under the real definition it is, but the Democrats have mutated the word. It actually means Socialist/Communist under the Progressives who have taken over the Democrat party. They also threw God out of their platform. Who would wilfully give their allegiance to a Godless group. Their agenda is a OWG with the few in charge and the rest serfs. Thanks for helping them… Read more »
Reba
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I think you need to reread my post, because I’m sure you sent you’re post to the wrong person.

tammytnt
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So true, sorry. You always have good comments. Once again sorry for the mistake

Reba
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No, problem and Thank you.

Philanthropussy
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Here in south florida, we hear a lot about dreamers. Funny, some if them not know their parent’s are illegal until immigration cones knocking. Overnight they are sent to a foreign country they know nothing about .

tammytnt
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If that happens, it is their parents fault. Their parents need to take responsibility for bringing the kids here illegally. They should be ashamed they put their kids through that.

Philanthropussy
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100% true

Reba
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I’ve never heard about that. If they have lived here since they were 4, why did their parents never apply for citizenship? I find it odd, that immigration is deporting them. When Obama is letting everyone in the world in. Florida, is offering college deals and the immigration is kicking them out; screwed up, don’t you think? If they have never committed a crime and hold jobs, then I think they should be able to apply for citizenship.

tammytnt
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Many do not want citizenship and many are afraid if they apply the gov will deport them. They should but the don’t. I think it needs to be done on an individual basis. Someone here who come from a country that are killing them should be given the ability to stay. It they came to get freebees, they need to go.

Reba
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If they have been here illegally for years and have a job and are not being supported by our government for everything and have applied for citizenship, I have no problem with them staying. If they have not applied for citizenship, then take it case by case. Some never had any intentions of ever applying for citizenship and those are the ones I have a problem with.

Philanthropussy
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First off Obana is not letting them in. I illegals get ihave been getting in fir years. And guess what, all illegals aren’t poor. Here tin south fl, there’s lots of rich people who buy homes and live illegally.
I’m not sure about pushing amer kids out. I think illegals still have apply and get accepted like every other student. FYI, there are PMENTY of colleges in Fl. IMost go to local community colleges bec the money does not include room and broad. I never heard of Amer FL kids objected about not getting in.
CA has the same plan

afftongrown
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Obama has been penning all the new “laws”! Also surrounding himself with the muslim brotherhood in the White House! Do you think that was all by coincidence?

Philanthropussy
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Please explain ? My mind is too small to understand your pretzel ionic

Reba
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Yes, the administration is letting them come across the borders. Here in Florida, our Elected Officials are not doing anything about it either When they take taxpayers money to help pay for illegals college, I have a problem with it. Yes, there is a good saving program here in Florida for parents to save for their children college. We should build a wall around California and cut them off from the rest of the United States.

jaydee
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You had to fill out the application and expect your kid to get into college. What is the matter with him??? To ignorant to do it himself???

Philanthropussy
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What’s wrong with a parent doing this for their kids? I have all his papers and I ‘m paying for it., so it’s easier for me to fill it out. I guess your parents don’t love you

Reba
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Nothing, most parents do help their children fill in the college applications. 🙂

afftongrown
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Usually, by the time a child is ready to go to college, they are certainly are old enough to fill out their own college applications!

Philanthropussy
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Here in FL, the gov set up a college savings plan . I smartest thing I have ever done. When my son was ready, all I did was write a check. But there was all kinds of financial work to fill out anyway.

afftongrown
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Not all parents have the financial means to help their children, as you have been fortunate enough tohave been!

Philanthropussy
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The reason parents don’t save is because they don’t think about it until it’s too late . I hear it all the time from my workmates . The same as saving for retirement . I have a child and wasn’t saving bec I was living pay check to pay check like most Americans. Luckily I heard of a college saving program sort of like IRA. Automatic withdrawal for 10 had $$ for 4 yr college . Also, I paid my own college by working at the college movie theater. My parents didn’t have the $$. It’s nice that a parent… Read more »
jaydee
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My parents are dead.

Philanthropussy
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They must have done something good for you before the crooked.

tammytnt
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Why do you wear the head gear? Are you Muslim? If Muslim, why are you here illegally? Muslims are welcomed with open arms by our gov. If you are Muslim, then you are in a different category than the Latinos. Latinos come here for a better life or if they are into illegal activities. Those looking for a new life are poor. With Muslims, if they are rich, why are they here, they either have an agenda or ??? The rich Muslims live pretty well there, maybe they are here for their job. But then they would not be illegals.… Read more »
Philanthropussy
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No, that’s a Halloween custom I wore a couple years ago. I went as Miss Terrorist 2010. I made it my avatar becuase I knew it would make you guys crazy.
My family came here from Cuba and I was born here. I don’t believe this country has to give benefits to illegals but I feel for their experience in this country. Being illegal is not fun at all.

tammytnt
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Well, that clears up a lot. I don’t understand why your kid is using the program for illegals, if you are a citizen. Or maybe I misunderstood.. I believe refuges from Cuba are a protected class with the ability to become citizens while here. I’m glad you are not an illegal, it really bothers me when they come here and start telling us what is wrong with out country. I love America, and after living in many foreign countries, I kiss the ground here. We are not perfect but closer than anywhere else. I too feel sorry for those who… Read more »
Philanthropussy
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MY parents came in 58. The Cuba law was applied in 63 by JFK. I think we should get rid of it because it’s not doing anybody any good. The Cuban coming over now, do it for the $$$, not freedom. The Cuban econ is terrible. Has been for decades. If they wanted to free themselves they could do it inside the island not out.I love America as well. I don’t think we are in the toilet as many believe. I think we are moving into a new era. Computers and social media have really taken over our society at… Read more »
MsSgt3
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HUH? A day late and a dollar short!!!

Sgt Snuffy
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Ah Hell, Col. me thinks we should just do a strategic withdrawal, wait out the initial collapse then regroup and take the Country back. We really can’t do anything right now because of all the intrenched Progressives found in local, state and Fed governments.

JoJo58
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Legal students? Meaning??? Their parents arrived here legally, or is this the new term for US CITIZEN?

Nothing better than rewarding felons, and children of felons with a college education.

afftongrown
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I cannot express in words how this infuriates me! These illegal immigrants are being give what American students have to pay an arm & leg for! Many of these immigrants will take their degrees and move back to their home land to practice their field. The American graduate will be straddled with school loans to repay for the rest of their life! Makes absolutelyno sense! When is America going to start taking care of her own?

AnneCameo
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As the far left/libs continually decry “what’s fair or not”, is it fair for the U.S. resident college student, from another state, to be paying a HIGHER tuition, when the illegal student sitting next to him, is paying a LOWER tuition? Doesn’t seem fair to the U.S. taxpayer, to me? And, that’s what the Dream Act does.

Philanthropussy
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First off, I don’t believe in it. It is dumbing down a school and makes a black student suspicious . Maybe back when it started but not no. With all this talk about minorities going to chapter schools, everyone should be on an equal playing field . That’s said, if a rich parent can write a fat check to an expensive college to get his dumb kid enrolled, why can’t a smart black kid get in a school using AA? Why can a kid who’s grandfather was a legacy get in a popular school and a black kid with no… Read more »
tammytnt
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How about a white working class family. My kids could not get into college cause I could not afford it. As a single mom I worked my butt off to raise my kids, but when it came time for college, I made just enough they could get no help. I made that much by working doubles just in order to barely scrap by. Never took a vacation or bought a new car. Live frugally but my kids couldn’t go to college. But their friends whose mothers sat on their butts and never even tried to work, their kids got everything… Read more »
Philanthropussy
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My heart goes out for you. When my son was little I had no education savings for him. I just happened to find out about a program my state has for college savings. It was the smartest thing I have ever done. I don’t mean to dumb on you, but the internet is full of college savings funds. Even a small amount adds up of you start early.
Also my parents didn’t pay for my schooling. I got a job and paid for it myself.

tammytnt
Guest
Thanks for your concern. My kids are grown now and when they needed to go, I didn’t even have a computer and they were not helpful then. It is a new world now. As a single parent, we lived very frugally and yes I put myself through college working two or three jobs, while I had two little children, I have such bright kids, it is too bad they didn’t get to go to college. My son taught himself computers, he reads computer languages for fun. He had as really good job, but for what he does, he should be… Read more »
Philanthropussy
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I’m a single mom too. Mine son is 24 and in college. I was lucky to have a good job, but I did lots of volunteer work at a free daycare center.

jim wood
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Mr. West, you have my utmost respect and support. Please try to look over the ankle-biters who argue against you by picking out one tiny statement or even just one tiny word in one tiny statement and argue that it is wrong and that therefore everything you say is wrong (Often they are the one who is wrong.) Consider me one of the 99 percenters, those who think you are 99% correct 99% of the time. And that’s damn good.

AnneCameo
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As the leadership in our country moves farther and farther left, we see the vision of actually representing THE MAJORITY wishes/needs moves farther from the focus. Our leaders need to be chosen based on ability to make hard/smart decisions, move past their own selfish/greedy wants or agendas (like that of Tyrant Obama), and do what’s best for the country and it’s citizens. Laws need to be enforced, and as much as ACA was never favored by the majority, if it was good law – at least Obama wouldn’t be DELAYING IT AND EXEMPTING HIS CHOSEN ONES FROM IT! Enforce our… Read more »
vietVET
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this is nothing new….now it’s illegals….years ago minorities were the politically correct group…regardless whether they were college material or not the push was to get them into college and get them a degree…..regardless!!!!

SUSANM621
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RISE UP AMERICAN CITIZENS, YOUR LIFE HAS BEEN DOWNGRADED
TO NOTHING.

Jay
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Having lived in CA for 25 years, I’ve seen this exact thing happen to my neighbor’s son with this same type of legislation having passed. Legal residents’ opportunities are being diminished to allow illegal immigrants into schools

dutch
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I don’t see anything in the article, or the linked report, that supports the assertion that 5,000 legal resident students will lose their tuition to illegals. Also, the basic accounting in the report has a serious flaw. The costs at FSU for the current year are: Resident $6,575, Non Resident $21,471. Their estimate that passage of the bill will result in 826 qualifying registrations I will accept at face value. That means those 826 will be able to attend at the resident rate. The Sate of Florida does not subsidize non resident students with state tax dollars, thus the higher… Read more »
Lena McMaster
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The only I got to attend college was by cal grant and as my parents put it, they worked hard to be poor enough to get the cal grant for me. My brother is in college on a cal grant as well as my sister. That’s the only way we could get a chance at attending. I don’t think illegal aliens should be handed schooling that most American kids would dream of getting. It isn’t fair at all and it’s killing our economy as well.