Independent commission says transgender soldiers are A-OK to serve

Once again, Barack Hussein Obama is telling us what he deems a vital national security interest.

As reported by CBS in San Francisco, an independent commission led by former U.S. surgeon general Jocelyn Elders has concluded there “is no compelling medical reason” for the U.S. armed forces to prohibit transgender Americans from serving in the military, and President Barack Obama could lift the decades-old ban — without approval from Congress.

The report said Department of Defense regulations designed to keep transgender people from joining or remaining in the military on the grounds of psychological and physical unfitness are based on outdated beliefs that require thousands of current service members either to leave the service or to forego the medical procedures and other changes that could align their bodies and gender identities.

“We determined not only that there is no compelling medical reason for the ban, but also that the ban itself is an expensive, damaging and unfair barrier to health care access for the approximately 15,450 transgender personnel who serve currently in the active, Guard and reserve components,” said the commission led by Dr. Joycelyn Elders, who served as surgeon general during Bill Clinton’s first term as president, and Rear Adm. Alan Steinman, a former chief health and safety director for the Coast Guard.

And so the fundamental transformation of America continues — especially for the U.S. military. Who cares about the capability and capacity of our military to meet emerging threats and adversaries on the modern 21st Century battlefield? We’re having a gay old time – who says serving is a drag? Not the folks at Kadena Air Force Base on Okinawa. Oh, did you miss the video of the drag fundraiser?

You might recall our report on the classification of a new medical condition called “gender dysphoria” and how liberal progressives are seeking to use taxpayer dollars to treat this condition. I guess that’s the bottom line here.

According to CBS, The Palm Center, whose San Francisco State-based think tank — who previously researched “don’t ask, don’t tell” — commissioned the report, was funded in part by a $1.3 million grant from Jennifer Pritzker, a billionaire former Army lieutenant colonel who came out as transgender last year — yep, just follow the money — liberal progressive special interest money, that is.

The Williams Institute, a think-tank based at UCLA, estimates about 15,500 transgender personnel are currently serving, nearly all under their birth genders and not transitioning in an appearance-altering way.

The ban also appears based on the assumption that providing hormone treatment and sex reassignment surgeries would be too difficult, disruptive and expensive. But the commission rejected those notions as inconsistent with modern medical practice and the scope of health care services routinely provided to non-transgender military personnel.

So get ready American taxpayers, your dollars aren’t needed to support good pay for our troops and veterans, nor ensure military families have access to commissaries — your dollars are desperately needed to provide treatments for gender dysphoria. Free.

Transgender rights advocates have been lobbying the Pentagon to revisit the blanket ban in the U.S. since Congress in 2010 repealed the law that barred gay, lesbian and bisexual individuals from openly serving in the military. Looks like these small special interest groups hold more power than VFW, American Legion, AMVETS, or other groups who are working to decrease veteran’s benefits claims processing times.

In fact, the commission recommends the president issue an executive order instructing the Department of Defense to amend its regulations so transgender people are no longer automatically barred.

As always, the Obama administration seeks out some former Army officer to tout their case. Retired Brigadier General Thomas Kolditz, a former Army commander and West Point professor on the commission, said he thinks allowing transgender people to serve openly would reduce gender-based harassment, assaults and suicides while enhancing national security. He cited a recent case of convicted traitor, Bradley “Chelsea” Manning.

“When you closet someone, you create a security risk, and we don’t need another Chelsea Manning,” Kolditz said, referring to the soldier formerly known as Bradley who came out as transgender after being sentenced for leaking classified documents to the website WikiLeaks.

Do you think it matters if anyone in the military is labeled a “homophobe?” Do you think our country is any safer because transgender folks can serve openly? Lets ask Vladimir Putin. Let’s ask Hassan Rouhani. Let’s ask Kim Jung Un. Let’s ask the leaders of every Islamic terrorist group. It truly does not matter what I think. But always remember, the enemy has a vote.

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Scott Masewicz
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Boy, I picked the right time to ETS.

On a serious note, I don’t have a problem with them serving, BUT they need to where the uniform according to their plumbing. No cross dressing. While on duty, they need to be in reality with what they are. They can cross dress on their off hours.

Erin Ashley Hedges
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Are you really that simple minded that you think open service means we’re going to get to wear dresses and nylons on duty? The only thing it actually means is that a trans woman soldier will get to wear the female uniform for class-As, and regularly prescribed uniforms during regular duty hours. On the side, any PT conducted at a pool will require proper swim attire, just like any other soldier. A repeal of the ban isn’t going to change uniform policies, just apply those of the target gender to an individual. Nothing will change, other than physical appearance.
Scott Masewicz
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Class A’s is what I’m talking about. When you’re in uniform presenting yourself as a soldier, you need to wear according to what you ACTUALLY are and not what your mind thinks your are. Keep the military professional.

Erin Ashley Hedges
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Ok, every single document I have from the US government says I am a female, despite the fact that I was born otherwise. Are you going to try to tell me that, should I be allowed in the military to serve again, I should be forced to wear men’s clothes again, just because someone I highly doubt has ever seen a moment of combat says so?

Scott Masewicz
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Have you had the operation to turn you into a woman or are you still technically a man?

I don’t know how the military was when you were in, but when I was in, they break you down and build you back up to how they want you. It has nothing to do with what you want or your preference. You do what they tell you to do.

Erin Ashley Hedges
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The surgery doesn’t make any difference anymore, and would have been fully covered by most military bonuses today. All my legal documentation says I am a woman, which means legally, I am a woman. Face it, there is nothing you can say to argue this

Scott Masewicz
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Uh, yeah. There’s plenty I could say to argue against this. You’re not actually a woman. You got a few government employees to go along with your delusion.

Erin Ashley Hedges
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Let me reword this. There is nothing factual you can say. I went through official legal means to get my information changed, in accordance with international standards of medical care. Are you really going to try to say you know more on this subject than literally millions of physicians worldwide who have studied this subject for upwards of 10 to 12 years, most of whom graduated from some of the top medical schools in the world? And what gives you this great authority over the top trained medical professionals worldwide? A basic high school education?

Scott Masewicz
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And what are these physicians telling you exactly? If a duck thinks it’s a chicken, it’s still a duck. If a woman, dressed all in purple, sits in a chair against the wall with a tree painted on the wall behind her, and she thinks she’s a plum, is she? Of course not. You would put such a woman in a mental hospital. What I’m arguing with is simple common sense. You don’t need a medical degree for that. The only doctor you need is a psychiatrist.

Erin Ashley Hedges
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I’ve seen 5 different psychiatrists over the past 24 years. You know what they’ve all said to me? Yeah, that’s right, that I’m transgender. The simple fact is that psychiatrists worldwide say you are wrong. I wouldn’t have been able to get my document change finished without a letter from one, actually. So no, again, you are wrong. You’re not basing your argument off factual information, and on subjects like this, yes, you actually do tend to need some kind of medical degree to know what it is if you’re not trans yourself. that’s why high school graduates aren’t in… Read more »
Scott Masewicz
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So the world of psychiatry has been brought to the will of political correctness. Interesting to learn that.

Like I said before, I don’t really give a flip what you people do in your spare time. When your off duty, paint the town red in your drag. I don’t care. But when your on duty, you and every other cross dresser needs to show some discipline and respect for the uniform.

Erin Ashley Hedges
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Psychiatry has recognized this since before the civil rights movement. Remember? Before racism was illegal

Scott Masewicz
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It’s just another mental disorder.

George
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Those are pretty significant changes. What do we call you while in class A and then what while wearing male swimwear? I am already confused and we have yet to serve a day together.

Erin Ashley Hedges
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How is this so complicated for you to understand? If they’re in the male uniform, call them he. If they’re in the female uniform, call them she. The amazing part is, all you have o do is call them what you’d normally call someone of that chosen gender. I don’t really get the confusion here, it’s really incredibly simple, if you don’t want to get in trouble for misgendering an officer, which can get you in big trouble, since one of the major differences is hair lengths. Men aren’t allowed to have long hair, trans women would be. If they… Read more »
Lindsey Masewicz
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I’m his sister, and yes he really is that simple minded. Don’t bother. 😛

Shirley R. Scott
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Well, I Don’t care either. But I, as a taxpayer, do not want to pay for their surgery

John Crafton
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A junior officer at one of my commands had breast enlargement done by Navy Medical. It was for “self-esteem” reasons, as deemed by a civilian psychologist. The taxpayers covered that bill completely. Gender reassignment is coming next, even for non-married same-gender “partners” able to receive full spousal benefits. I swear, I should have just stayed in and claimed “gay” just to get housing allowance paid for my buddies to live with me. They would’ve gotten free medical care as well. Why not? You can claim it all you want. I see a lot of issues coming down the line.
Erin Ashley Hedges
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You can’t actually just claim gay. You have to have a legitimate marriage or civil union document, officially recognizing you as a married couple. By the way, the moment you start having women over, that’s cheating on your spouse, and you break the law. By the way, GRS is concidered a lifesaving surgery by members of the medical community that actually know what they’re talking about, and with military aid, it’s going to cost you less than a few cents a month added to your taxes. Not too much there, considering the military already steals more than that from you… Read more »
MommaGator
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There is absolutely no reason on this earth why taxpayers should be paying for your gender reassignment treatments and surgery. As RichF posted above, “My nephew, a biological and psychological male, was born with one undescended testicle. He went thru 3 years of high school Navy JROTC, but because of the undescended testicle, he failed the medical entrance exam for the Navy. The argument is that his “condition” makes him a more medically expensive soldier. Yet they will allow transgenders? Insanity!” If that’s something you feel that you need to do for yourself, do it, but why would any branch… Read more »
George
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I am an ICU and ER nurse and there is nothing lifesaving in gender reassignment surgery, in fact it is not even an emergency. Anytime you go under anesthesia and spend time in a hospital, your risks increase. Over 200,000 people die a year from hospital acquired diseases and GRS is an elective procedure.

Erin Ashley Hedges
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Lifesaving doesn’t always equal emergency. Many of the women who undergo GRS would live otherwise unbearable lives without it, the inability to afford the surgery is actually a major cause of suicide in our community. Say whatever you want, but don’t try to tell me we just need to get over it, cause that’s just as much bullsh*t as “just stop being depressed”. You can’t just get over it, deep mental anguish just plain doesn’t work that way.

disisdadrum
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” By the way, GRS is concidered a lifesaving surgery by members of the
medical community that actually know what they’re talking about”
By members of the medical community I take it you mean licensed physicians? If so, I’ll have to call you on that one. Physicians are licensed to !!PRACTICE!! medicine and you can take that literally as it is not an exact science.

Erin Ashley Hedges
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Ok, never mind the thousands of licensed doctors nationwide, right?

MommaGator
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There are also many physicians who believe that this is 100% a psychiatric disorder, and that gender reassignment does not fix what’s wrong.

Erin Ashley Hedges
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And those physicians are almost always from conservative regions. The simple fact is that the international standards of medical care, which is what all doctors are actually supposed to follow, because they are almost always proven to work, say you are wrong. Any doctor who doesn’t follow the international standards of care risk being called a danger to their patients, and often get sued for some form of malpractice. There’s an international standard for a reason.

MommaGator
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You may be right about many of them being from conservative regions, although one that I heard speak about it practices in New York City. The nih.gov article does cite psychiatric issues in transgender patients, both before and after reassignment surgery. I was searching for data about mortality from medical complications when I came across that.

Erin Ashley Hedges
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I hope you realize you didn’t actually post an article there, just a link to the site. By the way, the most prevalent psychiatric issue faced by trans people is actually depression. GD is, itself, no longer considered a mental disorder. That was changed about 2 years ago

MommaGator
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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3043071/

I do realize I didn’t post the article link there, yes. I had posted it in an earlier reply to you.

disisdadrum
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What do you mean “never mind”? Licensed physicians / doctors are the same thing. They are licensed to !!PRACTICE!! medicine. Look up the definition of practice.

John Crafton
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Life-saving my ass. Unnecessary surgery endangers lives. As for the civil union document, are you saying you can’t lie about that? Is there not something called Bi-Sexual? C’mon, people have ALREADY found ways around it. I know, as I’ve seen it before I left the Navy. Bromances for the money are now starting to increase, almost the same as those old fake marriages sailors used for the money. Yes, they often got prosecuted, but don’t tell me this doesn’t open new loopholes. As for the hardware, you SHOULD know that contracts require ONE supplier of a piece of hardware, to… Read more »
Erin Ashley Hedges
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Except nobody has ever died in the 50 or so year history of modern GRS.

MommaGator
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I knew that couldn’t be true. People even die from simple tonsillectomies. This link is not an opinion piece. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3043071/

Erin Ashley Hedges
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Ok, so the army needed hundreds of tanks that congress just pushed on them, no matter how much they insisted they didn’t need them?

Michael Miller
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Reading your comments Erin, You sound like a crappy soldier. Hey, trannies are fine with me, on the caveat that they don’t cost even 1 penny and are not a detriment to security. As a boots on the ground soldier in several theaters, I have found that women in the field (no not in support of combat fighters) are a hindrance and need extra help. Now if a tranny is a real butch female trying to parachute in with the boys, that might be a different story. Having our killers being “panisfied” is poor policy.

Erin Ashley Hedges
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You know, I’m fairly sure this site has a policy against posting slurs against people in the comments

John Crafton
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What slur? Tranny? It’s not a slur, it’s short for Transvestite. You don’t get to grab words and say “they offend me” and expect everyone else to walk on eggshells. As for the tanks and whatnot, understand this: CONGRESS ordered those tanks to be made, not the military. Ask Congress why they did it and leave the military alone.

Erin Ashley Hedges
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Congress wasted millions on tanks that the US Army didn’t remotely need. The army told them as such. Also, you don’t get to decide what words are considered offensive. That’s up to the target group, in which the majority of the transgender community finds it extremely offensive. So yes, tranny is very much a slur.

John Crafton
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As for Congress, I assume you didn’t read my post. We both agree Congress wasted that money. They say they did it to keep the manufacturing jobs. Whatever. Either way, it was a waste. That being said, it had NOTHING whatsoever to do with the US Military wasting money, through its own policy, to provide unnecessary surgeries for non-life-threatening situations. And being put under general anesthesia is ALWAYS dangerous. You may believe that nobody has ever died from gender reassignment surgery, which sounds like a gross generalization, but the risk of ANY major surgery is always there. Why would I… Read more »
John Crafton
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You may in fact find the word offensive. I find many things offensive. Who cares? It still does not make it a slur. You have every right to be offended, just as I have every right not to care. In polite discourse, we try not to offend people, but when words that are commonly used suddenly get pulled into “offensive speech”, it is impossible. I refuse to be called “cisgender” or “cissexual” just because some overly-sensitive people believe “heterosexual” is offensive. I don’t get my feelings hurt when people call me a “breeder”, or when they refer to me as… Read more »
Erin Ashley Hedges
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We’ve been telling you this for years, don’t try to act like it’s something new.By the way, cisgender has nothing to do with sexual preference, it’s just the new way of saying you’re not part of the trans side

John Crafton
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Did I say sexual preference? Cissexual is apparently the right word for that, but that’s crap. Cisgender is about gender, and that’s also crap. We don’t need any new words. Use your new words to describe the statistically abnormal, as the statistically normal is accepted by default. Don’t force people to drop words that are in the common vernacular just because you don’t like them. It’s a VERY gradual change. We don’t all know what words push your buttons.

disisdadrum
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Really? Where do you see a slur? You just proved Michael’s point “taking away from the unit’s combat effectiveness”.. Previously, you stated that you served in Iraq. I can just imagine the enemy firing at you and you say, “I’m sure there is a policy against this”??

Erin Ashley Hedges
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Considering I qualified with 39 out of 40 consistently at every range I went to, coupled with the fact that I was always on full alert on any convoy, and that I have always been prepared to take a life if necessary, I’m fairly certain you have no argument whatsoever. By the way, I’d like to know who gave you the authority to say what does and does not count as offensive to others

disisdadrum
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And your range qualifications / full alert status relates exactly how to your touchy sensitive emotions? Just where did you read I have authority to say what does and does not count as offensive to others? I merely asked what you thought was a slur.

Erin Ashley Hedges
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Person said tranny on the board, tranny is a slur

MommaGator
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I have gay friends who use that word regularly. Guess I better tell ’em to stop.

Erin Ashley Hedges
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Oh, you have gay friends who use that word regularly? They must be so entitled to use a word that doesn’t apply to them, guess you ruined my argument. Dipsh*t, gay is not the same thing as trans, don’t try to justify it with imaginary gay friends. By the way, most people who try to say they have gay friends when being called homophobic? Yeah, those gay “friends” almost always end up saying “God I hate that guy, but I have to be professional, it’s still work, or school”

MommaGator
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Pardon me while I text Richard, John, Kendall and Michael and tell them they are imaginary.

Erin Ashley Hedges
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Yeah, give me names of people, like that proves they actually like you

MommaGator
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You know, Erin, I really didn’t know ‘tranny’ was a slur. I thought it was just slang and didn’t realize it was offensive. Hearing people use it who have transgender friends and are part of the LGBT community contributed to my mistake. I know you want people to understand you better and to have respect for your journey, and I would like to understand better myself. However, when you respond to me by referring to me as a “dipsh*t” and accuse me of having imaginary gay friends who hate me, it doesn’t really foster civilized conversation. I haven’t attacked you… Read more »
Erin Ashley Hedges
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Funny thing is, I only get angry with people on here when they push me to it. It’s not just you, it’s every other conservative on this site. But if I can plant even the tiniest seed of doubt in someone by using simple facts, I know I’ve won on some level

MommaGator
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I totally understand being angry, but it’s your choice how you respond. It’s a whole lot easier to stereotype someone when even their best arguments are loaded with vitriol and condescension.

MommaGator
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I had Christmas dinner with three of them. Maybe they just felt sorry for me. But hey, it’s nice to see that you are as tolerant of others as you want them to be of you.

MommaGator
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Oh, and Don. Wait, was I being called homophobic? ‘Cause that sounds like a slur, and I didn’t use one to you.

disisdadrum
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Hmm……tranny is a slur? What kind of slur racial or what? Now for one of your types of questions, I’d like to know who gave you the authority to say what does and does not count as a slur to others?

HughJadong
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you know that’s not going to be the case

Don Briscoe
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Are you kidding me ! Now Obama and friends are turning our military into a fruit salad it’s bad enough when you have to shower with your ass glued to the wall.

disisdadrum
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Friends?? It’s more like the son of Satan and his minions from Hell!!

John Crafton
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I remember saying something about this a few years ago while I was in the Navy. My LCPO was telling us what might go down about the repeal of DADT. I mentioned that it wouldn’t be long before gender reassignment surgeries were covered by Navy Medical, or that people would be able to cross-dress or express their gender identities (which can change by the day) without fear of punishment. I was told my argument was invalid, since it was based on the “Slippery Slope” logical fallacy. Guess what, people: The Slippery Slope is no fallacy. It happens. It’s happening now.… Read more »
CableNewsGuy
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I’m glad I was able to serve when men were men and women were women and that I talked my youngest son out of enlisting under this administration.

Susan Cooper
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Or so you thought – Navy SEAL – Kristin Beck – read Warrior Princess. Wake up learn about this birth defect so you can teach others. Keeping your head in the sand does not make the issue disappear.

MommaGator
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Put some thought into changing around the wording of your posts if you’re going to keep posting the same thing, please. Copying and pasting doesn’t make for a compelling argument.

Erin Ashley Hedges
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So I see all you people have no intention on doing research on this subject, so let me point something out here. You people have no idea how the transgender mind works whatsoever, you never will, and you never can. This isn’t going to result in people wearing MASH Klinger style outfits in combat, it’s not going to end in drag shows parading through unit areas. All it’s going to do is allow a transgender woman, who is biologically male, grow her hair out, and represent herself, still in uniform, as the woman she is. As difficult as this concept… Read more »
Mary Curry
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The problem I have with all this bullhockey is simply that even in the military standards at bootcamp, men and women have to meet very different qualifications, especially when it comes to strength training. Becoming a man in the military is more than just taking hormones and growing a beard. If you cannot meet the standards set for combat duties then I do not want you in the same unit with anyone I care about. The Seal you keep talking about did not become a ‘woman’ until her-his tour of duty was over. He participated as a Seal as a… Read more »
George
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The military is a very challenging environment and it sounds like you already have a few demons haunting you. Sounds like that maybe you should place yourself first and take care of your emotional issues first before trying to help the country out.

Erin Ashley Hedges
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If not for the fact that being trans was against the rules, there wouldn’t have been any problem

Erin Ashley Hedges
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By the way, before any of you post anything on my comments, understand this. You people have never bothered to actually read legislation about trans rights before, when you jumped down our throats about it, and you have consistently been proven wrong every single time. Many of your attempts have led to young people, children, even, becoming suicidal. You wonder why we get defensive, it’s because of this

Erin Ashley Hedges
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One more thing, in answer to your final question, the answer is yes. As a transgender veteran of the Iraq war, my only regret was that I was not able to serve openly, from fear of discharge for something I never had control over to begin with. This caused great distress, and occasionally caused my performance to dip, with occasional suicidal spells. Before any comment is made on this, however, this was not a result of being trans. Suppose you had a deep seated personality that just wasn’t accepted in the military. If allowed to flourish, this personality would not… Read more »
gallifrey1
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Looks like they may have finally found a way to get me to retire. I’m so sick of watching the military be used for social engineering. Somehow people make a choice to serve, and then whine because they can’t “be themselves”? I’m completely over it. Go do some other effing job, no one forced you into military service. And I don’t owe you a g-ddam thing.

Erin Ashley Hedges
Guest

How the hell is a Doctor Who fan, a fan of a show that pushes concepts of acceptance, and non-discrimination in every episode, going to post hate against someone they don’t understand? Change your avatar and username, you do a disservice to the whovian fandom

gallifrey1
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Strangely, I don’t feel compelled to change either of those things simply because you’re pissy about them. I have no tolerance for whiners, and it annoys me when people complain about situations they knowingly place themselves in. That attitude does nothing to enhance mission readiness, and in fact has the opposite effect. You just throw the word “hate” out there because I do not think your feelings are more important than my mission. The accusation is intellectually lazy, as is your assumption that one has to participate in groupthink to enjoy a fictional science fiction program. I don’t actually care… Read more »
Erin Ashley Hedges
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I just love it when people try to validate their statement by bringing up gay soldiers. Gay is not the same thing as trans, in any way, shape, or form. Don’t confuse the two

IndependentExtremist
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Well said. It truly isn’t about the individual as much as it’s how the enemy perceives it as weakness.

The irony here is that Obama has no problem with offending the Christians and puts them in closet when it comes to their religion.

Army Regulation 165-1, 12-3k states:”The chapel environment will be religiously neutral when the facility is not being used for scheduled worship.

Erin Ashley Hedges
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Because the chapel is a building for military use outside of worship. It is also a multipurpose building, serving as a synagogue and a mosque, for bases that have Jewish and Muslim chaplains. Not to mention, Chapels usually hold base suicide awareness briefings among others, which are often mandatory for all soldiers to attend. If this was actually a problem, the chapels would be mandatory mosques, or churches, or synagogues, not neutral. The whole point of a true chapel is for people of all faiths to be able to go and have a sense of safety during their time of… Read more »
IndependentExtremist
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Not just about chapel, but heard of many instances where Christians are told to hide their religious articles in Muslim countries.

Erin Ashley Hedges
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Gee, I can’t imagine how showing off christian symbolism in a predominately muslim country could possibly go wrong

ShiekYerbouti
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Gee, I can’t imagine how showing off transgendered appearance in a predominately
hetro country could possibly go wrong.

Philanthropussy
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As much as I like the gays, I’m so tried of transsexuals . I think this country is not ready, especially in the military . Too many people still think of them as freaks, even me , the great liberal .

Pamela K. Cahoon Laub
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Pamela K. Cahoon Laub

You have an interesting profile pic for a gay supporter.

Philanthropussy
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Do go on

disisdadrum
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What a crock of schidt, if you like gays so much, you like transsexuals also. Just what the 7734 do you think the ‘T’ stands for in GLBT??

Philanthropussy
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I’m familiar with gays. I hated saying tarns were freaky bec that’s discrimation , but I don’tt know any and don’t understand why they would would to change . I also have huge problem with bi’s.

Erin Ashley Hedges
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And there’s the exact reason you have no right to judge us. You don’t understand us. You don’t understand the mental pain of hiding who you are from the world.

The_Patriot
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You are a very confused person and indeed need help, get some counseling. You are mentally unstable. I do not want someone who can’t figure out if they are a woman or a man. Let alone what to do in a combat situation

Erin Ashley Hedges
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I got your counseling. They said I was transgender, and should start hormone treatment. By the way, they were actual trained medical professionals, I don’t see where your great and powerful knowledge comes from

The_Patriot
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You are confused whether you are a man or a woman. You were born as a male. You wondered what it would be like as a female because you see women get treated better by society. Istead of securing yourself as to who you are you cut and run. You will not get rid of your problems by changing gender. Your problems are not from outside your mind but they are problems emanating from your mind. Altering you physical presents will not change your mental instability.. It’s like moving to another state for a fresh start. Your problems follow you… Read more »
Erin Ashley Hedges
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Except 50 years of extremely well documented medical studies says you’re wrong. You have absolutely no medical expertise to say anything on the subject, and are making totally uninformed statements to make yourself look more intelligent. Simply put, you are wrong beyond belief

The_Patriot
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50 years of studies? wow I had no idea. boy that changes everything! NOT! Just like Global Warming studies. Proving that the left has an agenda that’s all it proves. Your studies justify your means to an end. You want so bad to justify your right and I am wrong. You fail miserably at that as well . I am not wrong and I wouldn’t care even if I was. If I am wrong then I learn from it. You just use the argument to convince yourself you are making the right decision to run away from your problems. All… Read more »
Erin Ashley Hedges
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Ok, back up your word with real world evidence, then. Otherwise, you still have nothing. Prove you’re right, or back off. In other words, pay up or shut up

The_Patriot
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Real world evidence? All you have to do is look in the mirror for your evidence. I do not have to prove you’re have demons in your head you can’t fight. You can do that all on your own. You’re a big boy err girl er whatever you are at the moment. You are right about one thing, I do not have the demons in my head you do. I am not the one who answers me you are. I do not tell you to keep answering. You are on the defensive. I do not have to prove myself to… Read more »
Philanthropussy
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Sorry, but that’s how I feel.

Erin Ashley Hedges
Guest

Doesn’t change the fact that it gives you no right to judge something just because you don’t understand it, though. You do realize you just used a conservative argument, right? Just seems strange coming from someone who claims to be liberal

Philanthropussy
Guest

First off , I have problem with gays. I was in the military and served with many. I support whatever issue . I don’t understand trans at all. Tge only trans people I know are on TV . If I ever get the change to net one in real life I would talk their ear off with questions . Until then, freakines and shouldn’t be in the military . Too disruptive

Susan Cooper
Guest

You don’t know trans people because they ARE just people. Once their birth defect is corrected, most just lead normal everyday lives without any drama… hidden in plain sight… your doctor – lawyer – teacher – electrician – politician – check out clerk – cop – graphic artist – next door neighbor… how many times have you ever moved and walked up to your new neighbor and asked if they had corrective genital surgery to align their body to their mind?

Philanthropussy
Guest

What do you mean by “birth defect”? I heard from TV interviews they believe they were born to the wrong body. You must be thinking about people born with both sex parts.

Xavier
Guest

But you’re intentionally parading you sexuality and asking to be judged, then complaining about it! Most people don’t give a rat’s a$$ what you do behind closed doors, as long as you follow the basic social norms that *everyone* follows. You’re not a special little snowflake and we’re not going to treat you like one.

John Crafton
Guest
Are you an innie or an outie? If you’re an innie, you get the female berthing and barracks. If you’re an outie, you have to meet more stringent physical standards and get to sleep in the male berthing and barracks. Do you want to change whether you are a plug or a socket? Don’t ask me to pay for it. You may feel conflicted. We all feel conflicted about something. WE ALL HAVE TO DEAL WITH OUR INNER CONFLICTS. Stop trying to tell me that we have to pay for you to look like you feel. I feel like Brad… Read more »
Kim Howell Hargrove
Guest

Without going through Congress then it should not be recognized as a law. If we would stand up and say, “NO, that so-called law didn’t go through Congress and executive order can only be recognized in a state of emergency,” then maybe the Queen in Chief would stop acting like a horse’s patoot!

Kim Howell Hargrove
Guest

nevilleross would you like to show your racism on this comment too? The crazy WHITE lady is in the mood to play this morning…LOL

bo the dog
Guest

Glad our troops are there to protect us.

Jeff Hail
Guest

What has happened to our world and our country? We do not deserve the freedom and comfort we have been loaned by our past warriors. America will fall based on our mistake of recognizing freedom from choice.

Susan Cooper
Guest

Hate to tell you but transgenders have served in all our military services since the beginning. The most decorated Dr of the the Union’s medical corps was found to be a woman AFTER her death. Get up to speed – this birth defect has been here since the beginning of time. The ability to correct it has only been recently developed compared to human history.

Pam
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Yes but was that Dr truly “transgender” or was it just a female that wanted to be a Dr, which the times she lived in would have been prohibited for a female in that position. I am not saying that these conditions are not real. Genes and mutations are at the root of the problem I would imagine. The problem is society. The radical different is always going to be looked at with suspicion and distrust. Just like any other birth defect. It is just the nature of the beast. Every body always gravitates to the people that they have… Read more »
Susan Cooper
Guest

Kristin Beck – highly decorated Navy SEAL – her book Warrior Princess .. read it.

And put your computer away as a transwoman is responsible to the code execution that makes it work. She did that back in the 80s…. see you really don’t know WHO you may already be interacting with with such a tainted past…

Pam
Guest

Translate that, it makes no sense to me.

Pam
Guest

Too funny, read it.

RichF
Guest

Insanity. Yes, follow the money and the LOUD voices. My nephew, a biological and psychological male, was born with one undescended testicle. He went thru 3 years of high school Navy JROTC, but because of the undescended testicle, he failed the medical entrance exam for the Navy. The argument is that his “condition” makes him a more medically expensive soldier. Yet they will allow transgenders? Insanity!

truth_bomb
Guest

Wait, you’re saying the transgender community, not the anti-LGBT community, is the one with the loud voices? Really?

The_Patriot
Guest

I can hear bho now arranging such a research find now

barry: Hello Jocelyn this is barack, I need to screw up the military even more what do you say, you and your commission find no problem with transgender people entering and serving in the military?
Jocelyn: Yes sir I can do that for you.
barry: Great! I knew I could count on you Jocelyn

Never let an opportunity for a distraction to go past

Erin Ashley Hedges
Guest

Ok, tell the countries which allow transgender service about your idiotic theory about ruining the military, and watch as they laugh you out the door

The_Patriot
Guest

So you are pretending to know that countries do? Let’s hear it. You can’t because there aren’t any.

Erin Ashley Hedges
Guest

Australia, Belgium, Canada, the Czech Republic, Israel, the Netherlands, Spain, Sweden, Thailand, and the United Kingdom. I’d like to point out, all of these are modern first world countries, and that Israel and the UK have some of the most elite spec-ops groups in the world

The_Patriot
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I can list names too, but I see no proof of gay or transgender in their services elite spec ops has nothing to do with transgender. Show me in writting

Erin Ashley Hedges
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The_Patriot
Guest

weak sauce lady I see no country names but the US nice deflection

Susan Cooper
Guest

Read the Warrior Princes by Navy SEAL – Kristin Beck. It is really too bad that there is still so much ignorance of this birth defect. Your not knowing and failure to learn from the provided link by Erin only shows how small a person you are. She provides you with the opportunity to enrich your life and you sick your head in the sand.

The_Patriot
Guest
You are of course entitled to your opinion, even if you fool yourself into believing that Transgender and gay is more than okay and moral. Gay is a sexual choice and transgender is a selfish indulgence brought on by poor self esteem and lack of self confidence. Just because there is a website support such poppy cock. Does not make it anymore legit than doing marijuana for the sake of self-righteousness. That’s whats wrong with this country, trying to make the main stream of Americans the abnormal and the abnormal, normal. Just because you feel it is the “IN” thing… Read more »
truth_bomb
Guest

Serious question here: When did you choose to be straight?

The_Patriot
Guest

I have always been straight, I could have chosen to be otherwise at several different times in my life

Susan Cooper
Guest

Keep the sand warm – it makes you feel safe in your world. Your fear of learning and accepting that which is different is like that warm fuzzy blanket you used to carry.

The_Patriot
Guest
Don’t look now, but your stupid is showing. I do not fear. Even things I do not understand. I most certainly do not fear gay or confused people who think they are women when they were born male. I do not even fear death. I know what I need to know about their failings at being their own selves. I unlike them are secure in knowing who I am. I do not choose to accept your liberal tripe and nonsense about gay should be normal or Transsexuals are normal because they are not. Nor should they be. You and your… Read more »
disisdadrum
Guest

A weak argument. From that website; Currently, at least 10 countries permit transgender service in some form. In some form is a rather vague statement as it doesn’t specify how transgenders are utilized. Could be as cooks, dishwashers etc. Says nothing about actual combat.

Erin Ashley Hedges
Guest

the NATO nations have aptitude tests that help new servicemembers find the positions that are right for them. In countries that have transgender equality as law, like all the ones on that list, jobs cannot be denied just because of a person’s gender identity. If a woman soldier can get a position, a trans woman can get the same position. That’s law in those countries.

The_Patriot
Guest

Just because they are twisted and screwed up does not mean we should follow their lead. They jump off the bridge would you? As far as laws go, bho doesn’t follow the laws why should they

Xavier
Guest

It sounds like you need to relocate.

jaswim
Guest

Geez, I always liked a man in uniform, but now I have to figure out if it’s really a man first? So disturbing!

truth_bomb
Guest

Yes, because this is about you. The whole issue.

Pam
Guest

What a monumental cluster you know what.

Susan Cooper
Guest

Read the Warrior Princes by Navy SEAL – Kristin Beck. It is really too bad that the is still so much ignorance of this birth defect.

Erin Ashley Hedges
Guest

Yeah, I would have hoped a SEAL that was on the team that killed Bin Laden would have been enough to prove trans people are capable of completing the mission, but I guess not in the eyes of the conservatives

Philanthropussy
Guest

As usual West, you only give misleading info. The commission only suggested Obama “may” allow trans to serve. Not that Obama will. This study was made by special interests. groups and should be taken with a grain of salt.
Plus, Dr Elders doesn’t count since she was fired by Clinton for saying people should mastrabate instead by having sex

williampenn
Guest

The same Jocelyn Elders who once famously said, “We really need to get over this love affair with the fetus and start worrying about children.”

DavidTN
Guest

This is truly sick!

Mistergilgamesh
Guest

The mission of the infantry, and the military in general, was to locate, close with and destroy the enemy through fire and close combat. In today’s infantry, our mission now is to feed and shelter, educate and inform the citizenry in order to provide Democracy and a fair trial. So I guess a touch of gay won’t hurt.

IrishBoss
Guest

Dr. Joycelyn Elders is still sticking her nose into subjects she knows little to nothing about. When is she going to invent those “softer bullets” she claimed America needed.

Erin Ashley Hedges
Guest

She certainly knows more about trans people than you do

IrishBoss
Guest

I am a potato, I am having eyeballs implanted all over my body. From now on you must address me as spud.

Erin Ashley Hedges
Guest

I’ll just call you stupid, instead. You’re comp0aring intelligent, sentient beings to an edible root that grows in the ground. If you try to bring up animals next, you’re still stupid. You’re comparing transgender people to living organisms that have absolutely no biological connection to humans. There is literally no legitimate argument here

Rafael X
Guest

If we let women serve what’s the problem with transgender? I’m sure all those villains LTC West describes wouldnt be afraid of a platoon of women either.

Erin Ashley Hedges
Guest