Unrest in Venezuela and Ukraine coming to America?

The prevailing theme for this week is liberty. A lot of attention is being focused towards the events in Ukraine. However, just south of us here in South Florida there is another example, Venezuela.

In Venezuela we see what always happens when socialism takes root, as described so aptly by Margaret Thatcher, “The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people’s money.” When Hugo Chavez rose to power in Venezuela, he promised everything for everyone: shared prosperity, fair share, economic equality. He enacted policies that directed the government to nationalize more of the country’s production — especially the lucrative oil industry.

He took over the means of informing the people – hm, I wonder if he started with a “critical information needs” study similar to what the Obama administration’s FCC is seeking to initiate?

What resulted? The same that always happens when you punish, demonize, and denigrate the individual entrepreneurial spirit. The same that always happens when you disincentivize work for a government subsidy check. The same that always happens when there is a promotion of a welfare nanny-state focused on dependency rather than opportunity.

The producers stop producing and flee. We see it right here in South Florida in Broward County in the city of Weston, where the Venezuelan flag flies right along with the American. So as Prime Minister Thatcher poignantly stated, socialism fails because its empty promises are rooted in the legal plunder of others based upon some ill-conceived – I submit, actually demented — sense of benevolence. And then come the riots — because after all, you promised stuff but in the end what do the people gain? Nothing. What do they lose? Liberty.

In the Ukraine the fight for liberty is not against socialism but rather totalitarianism. A quarter of a century ago, Ukraine was given a new lease on life, a chance to determine its own future. It had once been a central part of the Soviet Union but then became an independent state.

However, old desires don’t fade away easily and control is a powerful motivator. Ukraine is caught in the middle of a fight to gain control of its future and it centers around a very important commodity: natural gas. Control of energy resources is a vital aspect of foreign policy and national security strategy — as well as important to the resurgence of Putin’s Russia. Liberty is the result of independence. Subjugation is the result of totalitarianism. Ukrainians seek the former, not the latter, and so they are making a stand.

There are lessons to be learned for us here in America. Venezuelans and many from Eastern Europe have fled to our shores to enjoy liberty and freedom as they escape the ills of their home countries. But if America succumbs to progressive socialism and totalitarian control of our government, where will people go? If America succumbs, who will be the beacon of liberty and freedom? Let me refresh your memory about what’s happening in America. Democrats and the New York Times are advocating for the IRS to eliminate and attack Americans. The FCC is seeking to put monitors into newsrooms. Our president feels he does not need to govern by legislative process but rule by edict — executive order. Elected officials such as Obama and DeBlasio are leading the charge to punish hard-working successful Americans — for what purpose? Redistribute their wealth.

So where do Americans flee? What is actually perplexing is that liberal progressives run away from failing liberal states such as California and New York. Unfortunately, they do not leave behind their damaging political beliefs. Like locusts they migrate to states like Colorado, Montana, and Florida with their cancerous political philosophy and destroy those states — message to Texans: you may want to stop asking Californians to relocate, unless they renounce liberal progressivism!

As we watch unrest in Venezuela and Ukraine unfold, I wonder, will we soon reach a tipping point in America?

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Exodus2011
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I hope there will be some kind of Congressional/Constitutional Intervention this year that will start solving the ‘barry problem’ before America can become The Ukraine or Venezuela ….

DEO VOLENTE …. May it be so

House Republicans Aim To Block Obama’s Executive Action Agenda
http://nation.foxnews.com/2014/02/22/house-republicans-aim-block-obama%E2%80%99s-executive-action-agenda

17_tparty_patriot76
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When the Repubs. caved into Obama and the Dems. on H/C because they were blamed for the sequester ( which was caused by the Dems.) they have done nothing since to stop either him or the Dems. All the blustering they are doing now is just that….blustering! They are cowards and are only worried about not rocking the boat and getting re-elected ! They have done nothing about Benghazi , NSA, IRS, and FBI…..NOTHING but bluster! PERIOD Don’t hold your breath on any blocking of anything !

Exodus2011
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I think their hand will be forced .. .when the time is right

I’m reminded of a bible phrase:

… ‘ ,,,, but the iniquity of the Amorites was not yet full …’

Jim Ricketts
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We had better be very careful. Obummer’s plan includes an uprising through derision in this country. The consequence will be marshal law.The ds people will be able to arrest, kill or incarcerate you for life for no reason. Don’t believe it. do some research.

Willie Dowg
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MARTIAL LAW. There is a vast difference between “martial” and “marshal”.

Michael Lawrence
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In this country, we have the second amendment in place as a means of fighting back against tyranny. With that said, no one wants civil war in our streets and such measures should be reserved as a last resort. We have not reached the point that Ukraine and Venezuela reached….. I believe that we are getting closer to that point. Fortunately, not all peaceful methods of change have been exhausted yet. People on the right are aware of the problems of tyranny and those on the left are waking up to them. We do not want to reach that tipping… Read more »
17_tparty_patriot76
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The Pres. and most of Congress are ignoring the Constitution, or haven’t you noticed….The Pres. has changed laws at his whim and signs EO’S when he wants to BYPASS Congress and they let him, so don’t be too sure about the second amendment being worth anything to them ! ” You acknowledge evil exist, yet you choose to do nothing about it .” Martial law will take all of the Peoples options off the table….and as JFK said …”Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, make violent revolution inevitable .” ” Civil disobedience becomes a sacred duty, when the state becomes… Read more »
Michael Lawrence
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Have you seen photographs from Ukraine’s Independence Square? Is that what you want for our cities? I have been to Kiev and to Independence Square and it once was a very beautiful monument…now, not so much. Civil disobedience is one thing, but open warfare…. you do not want that. Violence should be a very last resort. If it comes to that, think of what that means. Martial law for sure, but beyond that…think on this. Farmers would have their crops confiscated to feed government forces, little food would be available. Energy would be cut off to the general public. Government… Read more »
64truth
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The tipping point better be reached before it’s too late.

sleeper48
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We are fast on the way there, if not over the “red line” already.

Rich Charles
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I just hope when the proverbial crap hits the fan,those who control the military,remember their solomn oath,”to defend the People of the United States from ALL ENEMIES,FOREIGN and Domestic”.I took that oath several times,and will abide by it to this very day.

Nancy Pickering Churchill
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Nancy Pickering Churchill

They won’t use the military, they will already have troops non military in place..

UpsetwithDems
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Which is why odumbass is getting rid of all the Generals and making our military so weak.

dotherightthing4
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I live in Texas and we are worried sick the Progressives relocating here will not leave their ideology at the state line. They will come here and destroy what Conservative ideals have built. Please–stay away. Assimilate and do as we do or stay where you are.

Reba
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That’s what they did in Colorado before we left and everywhere they go. Demand that your Elected Officials do something, before it gets to that point.

17_tparty_patriot76
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Has anyone noticed that THEY ARE NOT LISTENING? For 4 yrs. I have been writing , phoning, and e-mailing the Pres. , state and local officials , as has many other people around the country , and they have done nothing ! Time to act and that is Operation American Spring, May 16 , 2014 in Wash. TIME TO TAKE BACK OUR REPUBLIC !

Luke Meter
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It’s the same story in Idaho. Commiefornians move here because they claim to love the pace of life and then immediately set out to turn everything around them into a socialist liberal hellhole.

STAY THE HELL OUT OF MY STATE YOU LIBERAL COMMUNIST SWINE! Unless you’re willing to leave the progressive liberal BS that turned California into the cesspool it is, nobody wants you here!

Alondra
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“The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people’s money.” – Margaret Thatcher. And when Government runs out of the People’s money, comes Dictatorship in its ugly form which is called FASCISM. FASCISM– Any program for setting up and centralizing an AUTOCRATIC regime with severely AUTHORITARIAN politics exercising regulation of industry, COMMERCE and FINANCE, rigid CENSORSHIP, and forcible oppression of OPPOSITION. — Webster’s Unabridged Dictionary Fascism is a Political System in which Ms. Lawlessness rules. And we know that the LAWLESSNESS upholds INJUSTICE. THIS WAS WRITTEN 15 YEARS AGO: “The state of American education being what… Read more »
Nancy Pickering Churchill
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Nancy Pickering Churchill

My thoughts exactly…I wonder what our future will be? I worry what our future and our children’s future will be….

Carolyn VanZorge
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operation american spring – May 16, 2014 – washington dc

FB link:

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Operation-American-Spring/590327191020730

Willie Dowg
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Certainly, it will come to AmeriKa. The run on the stores when EBT-cards did not work was a practice-exercise for the Regime. Halt peoples’ EBTs, their Social Security, their WICC coupons and their free health-care such as Medicaid, and you will see riots, vandals, city fire-storms, and looting. This will give reason for the Regime to declare Martial Law and we have a Dictator for Life installed. It is all part of the Plan. Wake up, AmeriKa! Get ready……why do you think the Regime wishes to disarm its citizens? Wake up, AmeriKa!

MBDElf
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There are more commenters here than IQ points. I wondered where GOP slime went to die…now I know.

17_tparty_patriot76
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You want to talk about the lack of IQ points, then look at what you brain dead people put in the WH and Congress…..In Congress …idiots who let a Pres. violate his oath of office to obey the Constitution and a Congress who is complicit in his treasonous actions and also ignores the calls of impeachment of this Pres. by WE THE PEOPLE…..the very same PEOPLE that the Pres. and Congress work for !!!!! YOUR name calling is an indication of YOUR guilt for what you have done to this country WITH YOUR VOTE.

MBDElf
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Too bad we’re on the www, you can’t hear me laughing hysterically at your rampant, toxic stupidity. You need to double-layer your tinfoil hat.

The_Patriot
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Funny how libs cannot debate on fact or on logical stance. All the can do is call us names and put downs. you are truly showing us your low iQ

Opinionated American
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WOW! A progressive. Must be Bored? But please keep commenting. WE love to see you here. At least it shows that your getting tired of Mother Jones lies. Go ahead. Comment back and show us your IQ as if.

Alondra
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WHAT you can see in the chicken IQ?

Opinionated American
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Funny. LOL

sweetie
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I think we will get to the place of “civil disorder” and that will give Obummer what he wanted all along – FULL CONTROL

gibbygoo56
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Yes they are still making mass ammunition purchases. For what????? Or better yet for whom?

Reba
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DHS, IRS, etc.,

gibbygoo56
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why do they need it? who are they going to shoot with it? invaders of our countries?

The_Patriot
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Conservatives and Tea Party Members are the new Terrorists

Reba
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No, they are going to use it on the American People. Read the rest of the post on here. Especially, by The Patriot and 17 party patriot 76.

Opinionated American
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Tipping Point? Not just yet. I feel that Americans are watching for the two upcoming elections to pass first. I do believe if democrats retain control in the senate. That will start the ball rolling. If Hillary gets elected. Then yes I can see the U.S fall into a civil war over voter fraud at least.

Bama59
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There may not be as you say a civil war but we are done waiting on useless elections where the only choices are liberal and socialist and the actual fraud that takes place is stomach turning. All the while being investigated and found that “No, there is no voter fraud”. Yeah right.

17_tparty_patriot76
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If the dictator-in-chief declares martial law ……THERE WILL BE NO ELECTIONS !!!!

Reba
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Nor anything else!

Reba
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I hope people are not sitting around waiting for the elections to start expressing their displeasure in what is going on in “Our Country”. If you are waiting for 2016 Elections it will be too late. If you think 2014 will be a clean election then I don’t know what to tell you. No one wants a Civil War in “Our Country”, but if we don’t come together sooner than later then you can kiss it goodbye. Do you think they are sitting back and waiting on the elections?

Opinionated American
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I was being optimistic. We have been waiting for 8 years with Clinton, 8 Years with W,Bush. and over 5 years with this fool now. The difference I see now is that the Tea party is gotten extremely serious with Obozo. The Tea party is just more than a group of politicians like Cruz. They are Patriots, rednecks, Family men/women, Veterans that lost limbs and love ones for America and the constitution So I said people are waiting for the elections. Nobody wants to see a REAL battle take place on our streets. I’ve seen battlegrounds with dead lying in… Read more »
Reba
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I was not downing you. I read a couple of other post where individuals think our elections will solve everything. I have no faith in our government, Democrats, Independents or Republicans. They all have seemed to merge into one and it is damn scary. I’m not against the Tea Party, I just don’t always agree with the way they think on some issues. The Voting Fraud is rampant and I think it will be worse this election. Our Governor will not take a stand and put a halt to it. Look at South Florida’s last election, a nightmare and Governor… Read more »
Bama59
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You are correct that most do not want to see a real battle in the streets. That is why Operation American Spring is an unarmed operation. We are leaving the option of war to the socialists in DC. We cannot wait any longer to act, if we continue to let the country be taken down this path it will be to late to do anything but revolt with arms soon. By that time the army of brown shirts will be complete and they will no longer have reason to fear us, even with our arms. Do you remember his speech… Read more »
Reba
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You know Bama, I don’t think people know or understand about the “National Civilian Police”. You never hear anything about it on the News or how much they are buying up.

Bama59
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The news media is complicit in this socialist take over of our nation, that’s why you never hear about it. There have been many articles about the arming of the different arms of the federal government though, U.S. postal service, department of education, etc., but they are all on alternative media outlets. You’re right about the department of health’s “ready reserve corps” though, I have seen very little on that.

Opinionated American
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I agree. The demonstration will work. Like the bikers and truckers. BUT unlike those two demonstrations. will you fade? Don’t get me wrong. In short I was a sniper in the Gulf war. So I will defend her with violence if I have no other choice.

Bama59
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That is the point entirely. At this point we do have a choice, and we ALL are needed to stand up. This is not going to be a demonstration it is a movement to action that is intended to last until goals are met. Many involved are veterans and, just as you, if pushed hard enough, will take up arms but are, again just like you, not ready to do so at this time. We are going to exhaust every other avenue open to us prior to that point.Join in Opinionated America and help us avoid a shooting war within… Read more »
Opinionated American
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I can support and defend what I believe in. That is the bill of rights starting with the 1st amendment. To me the 1st amendment was the beginning of the bill of rights.
I still reserve as to my original comments about just marching in. However I can support this cause.

Bama59
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Can’t fault you for following what you believe in, that is just what we are going there for. Thanks for the civilized conversation, until we meet again.

The_Patriot
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The militias and Patriots who show up in DC May 16th are not waiting for the elections and neither will barry

Opinionated American
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You know that, If a band of Militias and armed patriots show up armed it can be considered a coup’ (Attak) against the white house. You don’t seem to be that stupid.
So tell me again. Are you serious or demonstrating?
You really want Obama types to hurt. It is to use the 1st amendment. Knowledge is more powerful than any weapon made. Plus it can be backed with the 2nd amendment. LEGALLY.

The_Patriot
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You apparently do not read. It is an unarmed event.

Reba
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That’s right!! They are not waiting for anyone or anything, nor are they following the Constitution and Laws.

The_Patriot
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He is using the time he has left to try to get rid of the Constitution so he can stay in power

Reba
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Makes you wonder where in the hell is our Laws. Why the Supreme Court and other Law Enforcement are not stepping up.

The_Patriot
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No Jurisdiction, Congress is the only power to remove the President from Power

Reba
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I thought our Military could arrest the President, etc.

The_Patriot
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No not at all, The only ones who can Impeach the President is the house and the senate can convict. If you recall the house voted to impeach Clinton but the Senate exonerated him

Reba
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I know that, but there has to be someone that has the authority to arrest or remove them from the White House, if they are breaking the Laws, not following the Constitution, turning on the American People or even Treason?

The_Patriot
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all the reasons you have posted are reasons that the house of representatives can impeach the President, then once Impeached the Senate tries the President they can acquit or convict him. but no other entity has the capacity to remove him. If the military attacks and removes him that is called a coup and is not legal

Reba
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Okay, I have seen where someone posted something. Either I’m overly tired, or I’m brain dead. Either way, need to digest this, because it’s damn scary. Thanks for the information and maybe talk tomorrow. Good night

The_Patriot
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I also recall where someone posted the the joint chiefs of staff of the military can arrest the President but that simply is not true
good night

Reba
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Was it, Sergeant of Arms?

The_Patriot
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Provost Marshal who reports to the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and the joint Chiefs all together

John Elwood Jr.
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That`s right, it is coming, 5/16/2014, Operation American Spring. a non-violent event, only the Police will be armed. We will stay in DC for as long as it takes.

http://patriotsforamerica.ning.com/forum/topics/operation-american-spring-washington-d-c-in-the-cross-hairs-the?commentId=2734278%3AComment%3A607862&xg_source=activity

17_tparty_patriot76
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SEE YOU THERE! God bless America and her patriots !

Sassan
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You extremist Allen West tea bagger nuts are all loons.

Opinionated American
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Thank You. But your flattery will get you nowhere. LOL

Sharon
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Sassan, another Liberal Dem TROLL.

Bama59
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Thank you for your enlightened and intelligent opinion on the matters at hand, they have been duly noted.

TheDudeAbides
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Don’t worry. Once you set up your labor camps we’ll be out of the picture.

Reba
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You haven’t figured out yet, it’s because we “Love Our Country”.

Brendan
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Overthrowing a legally elected President is a funny way of showing it.

montanapatriot
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As for ‘legally elected’, he is not elegible no matter where he was born. That aside he has commited treason and congress is not following the will of their masters the people to impeach and send him to trial. Therefore we must do it ourselves.

glenn
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How long is it going to take for you to understand that there’s nothing legal about this president we have today?

Sherry Jones
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Brendan, you keep talking about “overthrowing a legally elected President”. Let’s ignore the fact that there are some serious questions as to whether or not he was, in fact, legally elected. Even if we assume that he was, since his election he has violated the Constitution on numerous occasions. He has broken the law. The Republican dominated House has indicated on several occasions that they would seriously consider impeachment, which would normally be the “legal” way of removing a President that violates the Constitution. However, the Democratic controlled Senate has made it clear that they will NOT convict on articles… Read more »
The_Patriot
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No one can be a stupid as you are portraying yourself to be. You obviously do not get that barry is trying to destroy this country. Destroying the middle class and small business which drives the economy. Dismantling the Military, creating class warfare and racial strife, printing 58 billion dollars a month to devalue the dollar. How much more evidence do you need before you realize your president despises the US and what we stand for?

17_tparty_patriot76
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When you liberals can’t explain something…..YOU RESORT TO NAME CALLING! ” To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason, is like administering medicine to the dead ! Voltaire

The_Patriot
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“Against stupidity even the gods contend in vain,” Friedrich Schiller

senior74
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You ought to google Sam Webb chairman of the communist party, he has a couple of videos out now, they are getting a lot bolder now, he said they have Obama’s back. The communist paper is Peoples world, Solidnet has a list of communist parties all over the world communist Party USA site is cpusa.com (or org) Democrats against agenda 21 is a very informative site, this is the plan to make America part of the communist one world gov. Who knows, even you may become a tea party member, all we want is our republic, with our constitution, bill… Read more »
Reba
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You are saying, Democrats against Agenda 21?

senior74
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The democrats (citizens) who find out about it certainly are. This woman found out brcause she worked in real estate & because of the rezoning laws she became aware & now goes all over (even to tea party meetings) telling people what is happening. democratsagainstagenda21.com

Reba
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Interesting, maybe more will come around.

Alondra
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As always the Left-wing Nut’s totally disjointed outburst.
Get MENTAL help ASAP. And good one. O’UnCare will cover it.

gibbygoo56
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We shall see……

Reba
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Maybe we should try getting our Elected Officials to start thinking this way. Putin’s Speech on Feb 04, 2013: “InbRussia live Russians. Any minority, from anywhere, if it wants to live in Russia, to work and eat in Russia, should speak Russian, and should respect the Russian laws. If they prefer Sharia Law, then we advise them to go to those places where that’s the state law. Russia does not need minorities. Minorities need Russia, and we will not grant them special privileges, not try to change our laws to fit their desires, no matter how loud they yell ‘discrimination’.… Read more »
17_tparty_patriot76
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Yes the tipping point will be how the Obama adm. reacts to Operation American Spring……..with restraint for a peaceful movement, or VIOLENCE TO SEND A MESSAGE TO THE REST OF AMERICA!

Reba
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Your right! Every day the administration does more and more and May is 2 months away. They have plenty of time to keep loading up and being prepared.

17_tparty_patriot76
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I would almost bet he declares martial law sometime before May, so he can suspend the Constitution and the elections after that , knowing he will provoke a REVOLUTION ! I read on another site…… the American citizen , in numbers, outnumbers the military of the entire world. We may not have the sophisticated weaponry they have but we have the numbers, unless they go to a place that would be considered overkill !

Reba
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What is the correct site?

Susan D Dunlop-pruet
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Tried to send to Twitter acct. and they won’t let me!

TheDudeAbides
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TheDudeAbides
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This is a great article about Chavez and his grip over Venezuela. How close it is to our current situation is scary. I’ll probably get put in prison for posting this. From the gulags, the dude abides.

Larry McParland
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The time is soon non violent Operation American Spring May 16, 2014

http://www.operationamericanspring.org/forum/forum.php

Saltporkdoc
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You beat me to it Larry!

D.b. Swanson
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Be there and witness History… http://www.operationamericanspring.org/ We will restore Constitutional rule of Law. But we do need millions of voices and bodies to attend. For God and Country!

Brendan
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Please explain how overthrowing a legally elected president, and singling out one party’s leadership for expulsion, is preserving the Constitution.

Sharon
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When that party is corrupt, as is the Democrats, then they need to be expunged. And you remain a Dem Troll.

glenn
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Your problem is your a native New Yorker .By being a NYer you also must be a democrat and voted for obama in both elections.After all this time if you haven’t figured out what this man is up to you never will.You seem to be brain-washed just like all the others by the comment you made about obama being a legally elected president. The last thing he is is legal.If and when he is out of office you will then see just how corrupt this man really is.He hates this country with a passion and would give up just about… Read more »
Paul Deckelman
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That’s too easy an assumption – and makes you jump to the WRONG conclusion. Whatever Brendan may or may not believe, geography probably plays little part in it. I am a native New Yorker, have lived here all of my life, CAN’T STAND OBAMA and fervently hope Colonel West runs for President in ’16 so I can vote for him. On the other hand, Clinton and Gore, both big liberals, were born-and-bred Southerners, as were Jimmy Carter and the devious father of the modern Big Government welfare-dependency state, LBJ.

Brendan
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I’m not a democrat and i did not vote for Obama.
Nice assumption though

glenn
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That’s good to know. I also saw where you were an army vet. that’s good to know also because we will need all the help we can get.

Bama59
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If you would bother to research before asking that question you would see that it is not focused on a single party, it includes GOP as well. The people named are guilty of violating the constitution or aiding others to do so, that is how it is called preserving the constitution. Is that your mugshot you’re using for an avatar?

Brendan
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The avatar picture is from my old military ID.

Bama59
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Couldn’t see the writing below the pic, looks like a mug shot, as many IDs do. Did you look into the web site or are you going continue to make statements based upon your assumptions? Here is a link to make it easy http://www.operationamericanspring.org/, and another just in case http://patriotsforamerica.ning.com/ have a look.

The_Patriot
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Pay attention Brendan or have you been asleep for the last few years?
The current president and democrat leadership is trying to get rid of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. If you get rid of the President and the democrat leadership you save the Constitution, it is that simple

gregzimmerman007
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Brendan, this is a PEACEFUL PROTEST on May 16th-19th. But, if u do take a concealed weapon, u are not to fire on anyone unless first fired upon. That phase is MUCH later.

Bama59
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Greg, a slight correction, Operation American Spring is scheduled to begin May 16th but there is no scheduled end date. The other thing is that no one is allowed to be armed, it is against DC law, and yes I know the law is unconstitutional but to show up armed is giving them an excuse to arrest you or worse. If it is known to us, the people involved with OAS, that you are armed we will expel you or turn you over to the authorities. As for retaliation if we are fired upon, that , as you say, a… Read more »
Paul Deckelman
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I would not rule out the possibility that the Regime, acting through some front group such as “Organizing For America”, will attempt to plant armed provocateurs in the crowd in hopes of creating a violent incident that Obama, Holder and Homeland Security chief Jeh Johnson could use the same way Hitler used the Reichstag Fire, as an excuse for illegally grabbing total power. .

Bama59
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Yes, we have had many discussions about that very possibility and believe it is an option they may use. We intend to have security to watch for that very thing and either remove people or turn them over to authorities that try to start trouble. We know to be very mindful of people within our ranks.

Sharon
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If one participant is armed, it will be an excuse to arrest as many as possible even those who are not armed.

Opinionated American
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As said much worse.

Bama59
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That is why we will “policing” our own and turning anyone in violation over to local police or getting them to leave.

Charles
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Those of us who come from Third World countries can tell you we are well on the way of becoming one. I’ve been here in this country for more than 40 years, and cannot understand how people who have fled Cuba, escaping Castro, can now support socialist policies. Somehow, it’s fashionable being leftist. It’s so sickening that I can barely grasp what’s happening. But yes, I’m afraid we are in free fall, and there is little in place to stop us. People like you are voted out because you are a threat to the big picture of those willing to… Read more »
NotFondaJane
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If you know anything about what is happening in these countries and why, you really have to wonder if it can happen here. Are the majority of Americans so jaded and stupid that we’ll just continue to watch our freedoms get snatched away. In Venezuela and Ukraine, the Freedom fighters are armed with pretty much nothing, while the government picks them off with sniper fire and military arms. Our founders gave us the 2nd amendment, but they can’t endow us or those in leadership or those with giant public voices with intestinal fortitude.

Brendan
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The May gathering in DC will only help the Dems in the midterms.
The conservative movement has been very careful to control their image and tone down the crazies in their ranks these last few years.
It helped them win a majority in Congress.

The extremists showing up in DC to call for the overthrow of a legally elected president (like him or not) are going to force many conservative politicians to choose sides.

If they distance themselves from the protesters, they’ll lose the extremists base… but if they embrace them, they’ll lose the moderates and independents.

You should call it Occupy DC

Sharon
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Why do you believe everyone that shows up in DC is an extremist. Go away Dem Troll. We have no need of your blather.

Brendan
Guest

I’m not a Democrat… they lean too far left for me.
And yes… people who want to overthrow a legally elected government (specifically just one party from that government() are extremists.

Sharon
Guest

Yeah, I guess he was ‘legally’ elected if you discount those that publicly admitted they voted more than once. You also need to discount those districts that received more votes than registered voters.

Brendan
Guest

all debunked.
two page ballots were initially counted as two ballots by mistake in the press.

Bama59
Guest

So anyone that believes we have a right to demand that the illegal actions of this president of changing laws, refusal to enforce laws, recess appointments when there was no recess, and outright lying to the American people, be recognized and dealt with are to be considered extremists? The teachings of the left have invaded your thought process very well I would say. By the way, what part of voter fraud did you miss, the over 100% turnout in many precincts or the 100% Obama votes in those same areas of the country? Is that possible?

Brendan
Guest

Are you talking about the voter fraud that was debunked?
Where at first they reported there were more votes than voters… and then follow up reporting showed that the vote was a two page ballot and that each two page ballot was initially incorrectly reported as two ballots?

Tell me… what did you do when the Bush campaign sued to block the vote count in Florida in 2000?
Were you just as outraged then?
Or do you save that outrage only for the left?

Bama59
Guest
I notice that you fail to address the first part of the comment I left. I did not agree with much of what Bushes did but was not to the same point that we are now. Voter fraud is always rebuked, does that mean it doesn’t happen, like the video caused riots in Benghazi thing, or the “If you like your doctor you can keep your doctor” thing or maybe the IRS targeting thing that was only a few rouge agents in Ohio…need I go on? I saved my outrage for the obvious turning of our country into a socialist… Read more »
Sentinel
Guest

“Operation American Spring”

Calling all patriots! There is no time to waste! We will see you in DC on May 26th, and we will liberate our nation and our people! Join us!

http://www.operationamericanspring.org/

D.b. Swanson
Guest

Correction…. May 16. OAS may start on the 16th of May, but it will last much longer than the 26th. Many Patriots are staying until we have succeeded.

Sentinel
Guest

Thanks for pointing out my typo; corrected.

Lamont Cranston
Guest

The communists bought the democratic party many years ago for $300m. Now they are taking power………Ukraine today, tomorrow the USSA.

D.b. Swanson
Guest

Amen brother!

Opinionated American
Guest
I am compassionate and patriotic for my country. After reading some comments here, I want to ask are you ready to overthrow the Government? Really Ready to stare at the business end of an assault rifle intended to kill you? Tyranny loves bloodshed and before tyranny is overthrown there will be. I don’t like Obama either. To call for arms right now is plain stupid. We do not have enough allies in the military and law enforcement. Therefore they will protect the government not you. Unless you have their backing. You’re doomed to fail. I don’t like it anymore than… Read more »
linedancer2
Guest

Good thinking….UNITED WE STAND!!!

koowah
Guest

Remember Waco, Texas? A lot of people died in a confrontation that could have been avoided, It was a show of government power over a radical religious group that was easy to deomonize. In today’s America there is now an on-going war against main-stream religion. People need to know who they elect and elect those who will protect the rights of all. The man in the white house is not that man.

Opinionated American
Guest

I also remember May 4 massacre at Kent state. I agree

koowah
Guest

Kent state was even more criminal,

D.b. Swanson
Guest

You make a grave mistake in what you wrote… We should NEVER overthrow our Government as long as we are talking about the one-of-a-kind Government that our Founding Fathers gave to us. It is the corrupt politicians in our wonderful Government that needs ‘the people’s’ boot put up the rears, then be put behind bars. This is why restoration of Constitutional rule of Law is so important as our main goal. For God and Country!

Opinionated American
Guest

Grave Mistake? I agree on prosecuting criminals no matter if they are a president or not. I believe that there are ways other than guns blazing against her. I feel that Obama is setting up the patriots as a domestic terrorist group. Please do not question my loyalty to America.
P.S I have and will protect her again. I do know of the movement and I back it. Still I believe in the rule of law.

D.b. Swanson
Guest
OA… You totally mis-read my post! I was commenting on what you said above…. “After reading some comments here, I want to ask are you ready to overthrow the Government?”….. Your mistake was asking if people are ready to overthrow the government. We were given the best Government on the planet by our Founding Fathers. We need to toss-out the corrupt and even anti-American politicians, NOT the Government. I hope you see my point. Thank you for everything you and your brothers-in-arms have done for our Country. You have proudly protected us from the enemies from without. For that I… Read more »
Opinionated American
Guest

I have no problem with taking down those who violate the American Constitution in ways that will destroy America and Americans. Domestic or Foreign . I may not wear the uniform now. But I did swear an oath to protect the people and the constitution. I was worried that some one may take it a little to far and open up a bad situation without truly realizing the consequences of their action. And We thank You for the support.

Dorie N.
Guest

We the people can take him down by signing a petition to put him out of office for treason. If there are enough signatures, then the congress has to take it to issue. If they don’t then we need to clean out the whole congress immediately this election.

D.b. Swanson
Guest

Dorie… I have signed dozens of petitions over the last 6 yrs and have yet to see the corrupt Congress act positively to ANY of them. We are past the ‘petition signing’ stage. I can count a total of 3 people in Congress I trust, and that trust is only marginal. We have no choice but to take action.

Cynthia Banks
Guest

It doesn’t stop us from marching peacefully on every state house in this nation. March should be the marching month.

lstell3
Guest

Nice, it goes much deeper than that however. FEMA is building concentration camps across the country under HR 645. The IMF along with the International banking community (Federal Reserve Bank) are planning a complete collapse of the US economy. The real rulers of the nation are not in congress, nor is it the president. He’s just a puppet just like George W Bush was. The Brandenburg Group, Trilateral Commission and the CFR are are poised to change the Greatest nation in the history of mankind into a totalitarian dictatorship. Millions will die!

D.b. Swanson
Guest
Istell3… Most of the information you fear has been inflated over the years by the Left to put doubt and fear in the minds of people that want freedom. Think of this….. If there is a NWO type of World-Power Trilat Commision or CFR, etc, why have they not taken over countries that are easy targets like a Ukraine, Venezuela, or the minerals rich countries of Africa, South America, and dozens of others? There are other examples, but you get the idea. Are there super-greedy power-hungry people in the world? Sure there is, but people being what they are, if… Read more »
SFTOBEY
Guest

That is the “Bilderburg” group.

glenn
Guest

your absolutely right. If We the
people don’t stand together we will certainly be overrun by the government.It will be another civil war and we will be fighting against our friends and family again.Some people are so brain-washed right now by obama’s philosophy they don’t know which end is up.We have got to do all we can to get these people back on the right track before it’s to late.

grammy23
Guest

It’s sad that our children are not being taught actual history in school. If they were, they would realize the slippery-slope we are headed down. I believe this is exactly why they twist history to serve their purpose. History will and is repeating itself and it’s up to those of us who have been around awhile to make sure we do not go the route of Nazi Germany. Hold your children tight and hold your chosen weapons even tighter. O wants a fight and he’s gonna get it if our representative don’t start doing what we elected them to do.

koowah
Guest

The public school system is the government school system. Christan schools are a threat to this abomantion and are being targeted every day.

Sherry Jones
Guest
I agree with you for the most part, but I’m not sure anymore if the idea of “firing” our Senators is still valid. “Vote them out” is a common and constant theme among people who are unhappy with our government, but can we really still do that? Or has the electoral process become corrupted? We the people really have no way of monitoring or challenging the electoral process. So when Diane Feinstein, for example, is elected once again by California, did a majority of Californians really vote for her, or was the election rigged to keep her there because she… Read more »
Cynthia Banks
Guest

Sherry you are right, they are rigged. We needed to pushing just as hard for voter ID as they are marching against it. Of course those people who marched a few weeks ago against voter ID, were required to have picture ID to participate. Shows just how stupid these people are. How do you reason with unreasonable people? They refuse to think.

Sherry Jones
Guest

And the moment you point out that they’re being unreasonable and use logic, they start name-calling and personal attacks. Which I find amusing. I’ll continue replying with my calm, logical perspective because I can envision them practically frothing and going berserk, pounding on the keys….. it always makes me laugh 😀

Opinionated American
Guest

The electoral circus been rigged for years. People need to stop donating to the likes of Feinstein and her business. One thing is for certain about the electoral process it takes MONEY Lots of it. Quit supporting them or the business that backs them. The votes do count. But you are right. We can’t monitor them. That is why I support the voter ID program and the left hates it because it does work.

Paul Deckelman
Guest

Well said, Colonel. But expect the usual-suspect trolls to pop out of the woodwork with their Saul Alinsky-like personal attacks on you and their tired and tiresome knee-jerk defense of the rapidly deteriorating Obama-era status quo.

Opinionated American
Guest

Well said

Sophie Osnah
Guest

I believe you would have made a president the stands for the people of this country and puts our welfare first. Not being politically savvy, I still don’t understand what you are waiting for? I heard you speak at BRS several years ago and formed a deep respect for you and your values.

What is happening in this country happened in Nazi Germany in the thirties…a slow and insidious decline of government and people becoming fearful of the truth.

How is it that the White House has dinner with the Brotherhood inviting terrorist in while citizens are starving?

Opinionated American
Guest

Like your comment. Read Russia history on Stalin. To starve the people into your bidding.

Schawminator
Guest

Pleas everyone listen to this video. This video contains ‘backwardization’ of gold, asset-backed currency, bankster, cabal, fiat debt-based currency, Karen Hudes of World Bank, speaks directly to, manipulation of the dollar, NWO, overall monetary system, Project Camelot, Senior Counsel effort to disclose this information
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGCvZuzShSc&feature=player_embedded

Cynthia Banks
Guest

I’ve seen this before, Karen has warned us and congress and they do nothing.

Schawminator
Guest
Cynthia, please consider since Karen spoke out there seems to be a string of suspicious deaths in the banking and financial sectors and naturally the nightly news media has chosen not to cover them. Keep following this and you may find it easy to connect these bankers dots of deaths. Remember she said there is no interest in prosecuting them. 1 – William Broeksmit, 58-year-old former senior executive at Deutsche Bank AG, was found dead in his home after an apparent suicide in South Kensington in central London, on January 26th. 2- Karl Slym, 51 year old Tata Motors managing… Read more »
Cynthia Banks
Guest

Schwaminator, there are 12 supposed suicides so far. One who shoot himself nine times with staple gun or nail gun….I’m sure you would fall for that one. But the police called it suicide. I’ll have to find the link. I read it yesterday. Congress I am sure has been threatened or their family member. http://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-conservative/2014/02/pastors-and-bankers-committing-suicide-2803574.html

Schawminator
Guest

A nail gun, how convenient for a bank executive.

FYI; I’m a very active supporter of the Discloser Group. Many of us contractors are also trying to expose their efforts. We are more focused on releasing all the free or near free energy technologies along with medical discoveries.
After Dr. Steven Greer briefed Obama he did the same on Capitol Hill at the National Press club in April/May 2013 (4 minutes) This part 2 snippet from the 5 full hearing days. All the hearing tapes are still up on youtube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=83v5Rgeu2Yc

Schawminator
Guest

You are indeed correct about congress. They refuse to anything even when there is indisputable proof about Obama’s BC, SSN#, Selective Service Card, and his brief on the Discloser Group by Dr. Greer.
This should be a lessons learned for We The People that we have no representation on Capitol Hill.

Kenneth A. Smith
Guest

We need to start NOW!!! Do the same thing here as what they are doing in Venezuela and Ukraine. obama must go NOW!!! Do Not wait until it gets as bad here as it is over there. Mr West, if you lead we will follow.

rivahmitch
Guest

We don’t flee. Those who are unwilling to kill and die for their rights, freedoms and property will surely and deservedly lose them. It’s better to die on your feet than to live on your knees. Semper Fi!

Cynthia Banks
Guest

Yes, we need to fight now

Sharon
Guest

ABSOLUTELY!!!!! Semper Fi Marine

grammy23
Guest
After actually seeing the MSM show these stories (knowing they are State-run) this is supposed to intimidate us. Show us how civilians are being killed….I see it as a warning. The only good thing is that in places like Ukraine…the Police are siding with the civilians. It’s hard to imagine our country coming to that because we are a civilized country, far removed from civil wars and that which these people have suffered. I truly believe it’s time for an uprising like this but Obama is waiting with baited-breath so he can declare Martial Law and jail any and all… Read more »
linedancer2
Guest

They are afraid of losing their job….

Nancy DeVisser
Guest

I am afraid you are right

D.b. Swanson
Guest

Grammy, it’s only scary if people give-up their love of Freedom.

Cynthia Banks
Guest

My prayers are for a powerful victory for both countries. But while we pray for them, we should be praying for ourselves, our nation is being destroyed right before out eyes and we should be marching on Washington, D.C. We should be demanding that the dictator in office be thrown out. But we are too soft and don’t want to give up our comfortable lives. So we will pay a dear price.

D.b. Swanson
Guest

You are correct, but you need to be patient just a little bit longer. May 16 will be here very soon. In the meantime start planning your trip to DC so you can witness History being made!

linedancer2
Guest

What are you going to do on May 16th when the haters of America have signs also…remember, there are a lot of them on welfare, food stamps, everything paid for them….they don’t want a change, it’s only we educated, hardworking folks that keep paying for the wrong leaders……check our polls this coming election, no busloads of paid peon’s voting unless they are registered…we have to have identification for everything today so if they don’t have a valid license to show, then proof of who they are and if they are legal!!!!!

WayOutHere
Guest

Amen Marine. Take it to them

Paula Ralaford Davis
Guest
I’m not sure I’m down for May 16. I went to protest in 2009. About 1.5 million of us showed up and were completely ignored. The planners of this event say to stay until things change, but they offer no long term strategy. I was on a Girl Scout trip in 1968 and walked through Ressurection City. That tactic worked pretty well, but for this event, we are being told we can’t camp out on the mall. WTH not? To reveal a battle plan to an enemy ahead of time is nuts, but to ask 10 million of us to… Read more »
Brendan
Guest

I look forward to the Occupy DC rally on May 16th.

I’m sure people will hold some brilliant signs and have thought out rational answers for the reporters there.
I’m sure it will in no way be an embarrassing debacle that will make conservatives look bad before the midterms.

John Elwood Jr.
Guest

It`s Operation American Spring, not Occupy DC. Leftist troll, now go watch Fallon.

Brendan
Guest

What’s the difference?

Reba
Guest
Really Brendan? You need to read a little bit more; I don’t think you are getting the full picture. So, you are saying, the right of the “American People,” to voice what they don’t like what is being done to the “American People” and “Our Country” will be embarrassing? I don’t understand why you would think that. It is our right as Americans to speak the truth and our Elected Officials work for us; we don’t work for the Elected Officials. The “American People” need to wake up and realize forgotten they are taking “Our Country” down to its knees… Read more »
linedancer2
Guest

girl, you said it!!!

Brendan
Guest
I never said that Americans don’t have the right to organize and protest. They absolutely do and i would fight to the death to defend that right for ALL Americans, whether i agree with their message or not. I do think that some of the people who show up will be embarrassing and I base that on some (not all) of the comments from some (not all) of the people who are attending. One of the problems with having such a massive rally with no control over what signs individuals carry is that there will be no way to control… Read more »
Reba
Guest

Brendan,

There will always be individuals anywhere you go, that will try something. They are many people working this and trying to keep it clean, respectful and peaceful. I’m sure there is many more that will be monitoring the crowds to make sure nothing is being done that should not be. This rally has a purpose, not just this and that rally. If you have real questions to ask, go on the site and read and ask your questions Brendan. Be supportive, learn or don’t go on, your choice.

Gil Jones
Guest

Brendan, your shallow sarcasm’s worth exactly a fiat dollar. FYI: OAS is made up of Americans first, conservative and liberal. OAS is a demonstration of concern for the Constitution and all the freedoms it protects. LOOK past your liberal nose buddy, be an American without hyphens…Semper Fi Nam 66-67

koowah
Guest

The rights of all should be respected, but when the rights of minorities, those who live alternate
life styles, atheists, etc. trump the rights of others, who are a majority, things will eventually fall apart.

linedancer2
Guest

They are already are falling apart…..some people don’t understand that the Civil War is over, everyone has rights today no matter what color….now they are telling us what we can say or not say….spending our money taken out of our paycheck like maniac’s. What next? The next President will have his/her hands full with the mess we are in….so pick carefully…..let’s get a winner, a Hero next….

Gil Jones
Guest

Interviewing a worker in Russia, he said, “We pretend to work, government pretends to pay.”…Semper Fi

Janeen Alley
Guest

We are already at the tipping point! It is now in the progress. Join Operation American Spring, Set for May 16, 2014 Target WDC to take our country back from the LIAR AND THIEF in Our White House! America has reached there boiling point & we will not be happy until all of Obama & his minions are removed from power! Since Congress seems unwilling to go by what the people they are supposed to represent want then by God we will do it ourselves!

linedancer2
Guest

If we stopped paying these guys, maybe they would understand hard work, they may even straighten up and fly right…..your right…but how do we stop the money guys? They pay the poor to vote for them and someone is voting for dead people, next they will be voting for their cats and dogs? We have to watch the voting booths. Everyone should be registered in some way….and prove it at the polls….no bus loads allowed….
WATCH OUR POLLS , CHECK CAREFULLY OF WHO IS VOTING….start somewhere….

boone1
Guest

You best have your rifles and ammo as you know the sandni66er will be waiting with his girlie men army to shoot on site.

ADRoberts
Guest

First PRAY. Unless the Lord builds the house, the worker labors in vain.
Unless we submit to God’s authority, we will SURELY fail.

ADRoberts
Guest

The article was CROPPED off the left 10-14 letters. Consequently it did not make a lot of sense. Do you suppose that is the work of Obama’s 3475 hackers or NSA or Soros?

keyboardkeys
Guest

Mine was fine. Maybe you have your screen enlarged too much.

Charles O McVey Sr.
Guest

This garbage began with Johnson, and will end in this nation when a sufficient number of US Citizens decide it is time to FERTILIZE THE ROOTS OF THE TREE OF LIBERTY.

Fred Marsico
Guest

This started with Lincoln. He was the one who began the downfall by giving property to the bankers to pay the debt. Congress had adjourned ‘sine die’ and Lincoln ‘assumed’ dictatorial powers.

After the Civil War, the Congress reconvened, and in 1871 they formed a ‘new government’ called, THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, INC. for the District of Columbia. The Constitution they swear an oath to is not the one that We the People ratified.

Welcome to the realization that we have become property and no longer sovereign individuals.

Now that you know, what will you do?

heroay
Guest
Lincoln? If he had done WRONG, he wouldn’t have been assassinated, like JFK later. It was the banksters who started the ploy to divide and conquer their ‘lost Colony’ (not England, the Rothschilds), Wilkes Booth but one of their assassin-agents. And of necessity, since these banksters financed BOTH North and South (whoever won, they would win), Lincoln had to ‘repay’ the debt. The rest of the story, a concoction of the government embedded zionist mafiosi, as they are today in DC. All CAPS means THE CORPORATION, of the Rothschilds. With you and me, the STRAWMAN, mere assets of it. And… Read more »
miprecinct9
Guest

Yes, Obama and company are certainly taking us down that path.

fedup
Guest
“But if America succumbs to progressive socialism and totalitarian control of our government, where will people go? If America succumbs, who will be the beacon of liberty and freedom?” ……Look North my friends. You know what I find astounding? That there are still some Americans that think Canada is a Socialist country. LOL….most Canadians are looking South, shaking our heads and wondering if we should start building a Wall to keep out your Liberal Progressives(Communists). OMG…..your All mighty and powerful US of A is now twenty times more Socialist then Canada has EVER or EVER will be. And I’m frickin… Read more »
linedancer2
Guest

Good for you “fedup” we are going down the tubes…..

Reba
Guest

Your right!!

Fred Marsico
Guest
From ‘The Law’ by Frederic Bastiat: “The Socialists Wish to Play God Socialists look upon people as raw material to be formed into social combinations. This is so true that, if by chance, the socialists have any doubts about the success of these combinations, they will demand that a small portion of mankind be set aside to experiment upon. The popular idea of trying all systems is well known. And one socialist leader has been known seriously to demand that the Constituent Assembly give him a small district with all its inhabitants, to try his experiments upon. In the same… Read more »
Reba
Guest

Fascinating! Who would be the one that knows what to do and how to implement?

heroay
Guest

Read, but NO anarchy at the end, since in the US there will be
state government while the Republic is restored from the zionist mafia.
And pass along!

http://cspoa.org/sheriff-mack-to-obama-you-have-no-authority-to-tell-me-what-kind-of-gun-i-can-own/comment-page-1/#comment-6077

Acensustaker
Guest
This is quite true what Allen said about progressive Californians fleeing the state, but taking their progressive ideology with them. I am a native-born Californian who has lived my entire 62 years in this state. I grew up in a very conservative and economically thriving “Golden State”. Then, during the late seventies and eighties, was a huge influx of people coming from states home to liberals. Things changed radically with the election of the younger Governor Jerry Brown. Taxes grew higher. The public sector became unionized and those employees were promised unbelievable benefits packages (including medical, dental and retirement) that… Read more »
D.b. Swanson
Guest

Progressivism is anything but progressive! It leaves a huge swath of destruction wherever it’s tried.

gene456
Guest

Allen West is a great guy. A very dignified gentleman.

gene456
Guest

I HOPE the Left starts their long-threatened civil war. I would enlist to fight against them, and make Patton look like a wimp.

Brendan
Guest

When have the left been threatening civil war?
I only hear that from America-hating loons on the far right

gene456
Guest

Fcuk you, you dodge ball-fearing homo. There’s not such thing as a rightwing America-hater. The unAmericans in this country are all on the left. Everyone knows it.

Brendan
Guest
Sorry kid… the evidence of the last few years backs me up. When the left wasn’t running the government, they bitched and there were some far left loons who talked about revolution. But now, under this president, far right loons are screaming about over throwing the government and having a civil war. That is unAmerican. I love this country and I understand that some of my fellow Americans have different politics than i do.. but I don’t want to go to war with my fellow Americans. You, however, stated that you do. I could give you countless examples of far… Read more »
gene456
Guest

You misunderstand what they say. When America is being run by America Haters – which is precisely what we have now – it is not out of hatred for our country to say these people should be overthrown.

heroay
Guest

take a look, but NO anarchy at the end, since in the US there will be state government while the Republic is restored from the zionist mafia. Pass along!

http://cspoa.org/sheriff-mack-to-obama-you-have-no-authority-to-tell-me-what-kind-of-gun-i-can-own/comment-page-1/#comment-6077

gawxxx
Guest

we are long past the tipping point ,