US military deaths in Afghanistan skyrocket under Obama

As a former combat commander, I can tell you that fear is difficult to avoid on the battlefield. But on today’s battlefields, a new fear haunts our troops: the fear of persecution by their own government. That fear leads to internal hesitation. And that leads to death.

Billy and Karen Vaughn, parents who know the pain of having their warrior son betrayed write on Breitbart.com:

“U.S. soldiers in Afghanistan are now forced to fight a two-fronted war. Before each deployment, these soldiers understand fully that day after day they will do battle against relentless terrorists with shifting loyalties and unspeakable hatred. But what none of them could have foreseen was the killing field that would open from their rear: the Continental United States.

“Our government’s incessant tightening of already restrictive ROE (Rules of Engagement), compounded by the failed COIN (Counterinsurgency) strategy—also known as “winning hearts and minds”—has made an otherwise primitive enemy formidable.”

The chart below shows the awful truth about US military deaths in Afghanistan. Click on it to enlarge.
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In the first seven-plus years of war in Afghanistan (October 2001 – December 2008) we lost 630 U.S. soldiers. In early 2009, the Obama administration authorized the implementation of the COIN (Counter-Insurgent) strategy, more focused on “winning hearts and minds” than winning a war, and over the next five years, the U.S. death toll nearly tripled.

Seventy-three percent of all U.S. deaths in Afghanistan have taken place since 2009. In the first seven plus years of war in Afghanistan, 2,638 U.S. soldiers were wounded in action. In the next forty-five months (2009 – 2012) an additional 15,036 suffered the same fate.

Recently, Afghanistan President Hamid Karzai decided to release Islamic terrorists with blood on their hands, that of our American troops as well as Afghan civilians. Imagine being a young warrior in Afghanistan at this time and having to ask “why am I here?” Many Americans are now aware of the story behind Lone Survivor and realize that when faced with life or death decisions it seems our warriors fear lawyers and the media more than the enemy. They face a non-state, non-uniformed enemy that blends in with the civilian population and knows our ROE (Rules of Engagement).

Our battle-tested men and women we send into harm’s way are confronted by the enemy and must make instantaneous combat decisions. Some, like Army 1LT Clint Lorance, find themselves afterwards sitting in a prison cell in Ft. Leavenworth.

Yet, while much evidence demonstrated links to Islamic totalitarianism and terrorism with former Army officer Nidal Hasan, and some were told to keep silent because of “political correctness.” That silence led to 13 dead and some 30 wounded in Ft. Hood Texas — shot by a man in American uniform shouting “Allahu Akhbar.” And what did our leaders say to our warriors gunned down by a jihadist on a military installation in America? It was “workplace violence.”

In the last presidential election, for the first time in nearly 77 years, the sitting president, vice president and candidates for office had no military service. I’m not suggesting that the president of the United States must have served in the military — but the most important duty of the president is Commander-in-Chief. Our country needs a leader who can understand the sacrifices and commitment of those brave men and women who stand on freedom’s rampart, because he or she has been there.

As the Vaughn’s write, “Our best and brightest come home in body bags as politicians and lawyers dine over white linen tablecloths; writing, modifying, and re-modifying these lethal rules. Rules that favor the enemy rather than the American soldier. Rules so absurd they’re difficult to believe until you hear the same stories over and again from those returning from battle.”

When the parents begin to feel this way, will America stop being the Land of the Free because parents will no longer sacrifice the brave?

We must make a stand for those who make the stand for us.

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akatom3565
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Easiest way to solve the problems that come with ROE is put a politician on point with those same rules and then see how they like it. My guess is the majority would be pushing someone in front of them to save their worthless hide. Till that happens they would rather supply flags for funerals then make the other side upset.

D. Lenore Hutchens
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Does anyone think this is coincidence?

The_Patriot
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No such thing. barry has no rep[ect for the american soldier and the ROE’s prove that. Making a Marine Hold an umbrella in the rain proves that

David Casillas
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Yeah, I saw that. Despicable! Making a Marine hold an umbrella, and says in outright in front of them: that’s all they’re good for? Such dishonor! Obama has NO love for American soldiers, or even the American people for that matter.

Zelda
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every Pentagon pansie that allowed the stupid ROE that we currently have need to be transferred immediately to the front and left there. They make me sick when the don’t refuse to stand up and say NO to this BS coming from the WH.

ML NJ
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But he was so sincere!

How could this be?

skippingdog
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Could it be that casualties increased in Afghanistan because we had not directed the bulk of our forces to that particular theater of operations until Obama became President? I quick look at our recent history shows that to be the case.

Since Afghanistan wasn’t a primary focus of our military activity during the GWB administration, it’s not surprising that the bulk of our casualties occurred in Iraq.

This could easily be retitled: Military Casualties Plunge in Iraq since Obama took office.

The_Patriot
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when Bush sent the there in the beginning they did not have restrictive ROE’s.
When does it make sense that a US soldier kills an enemy scout while on patrol and he gets indicted for murder? that’s nuts. You are in a war zone with people shooting at you. You shoot back.
It was under Obama that the ROE’s became restrictive causing far more deaths.
You do not hear about it because of the MSM propaganda machine

Brendan
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Not true.
Please give an example of how the rules of engagement changed under Obama.

The_Patriot
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you obviously are oblivious to the news. They have been talking about this for almost a year now. Since you are too lazy to google it for yourself

http://defensetech.org/2010/08/04/petraeus-leaves-intact-highly-restrictive-afghanistan-roe/
from 2012
http://www.businessinsider.com/one-marines-views-on-afghanistan-2012-8

Before you try to contradict someone do your homework

Jon Lewis
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The purpose of a Military is to destroy and defeat its enemies. When it comes to life and death there should be no rules, can anyone imagine WWII fighting in the Pacific against fanatical Japanese with “RULES OF ENGAGEMENT”? OR THE NAZIS? The first implementation of this crap was introduced during the Vietnam Conflict and you see the results of that mess. I saw it first hand and the men and women now serving our country in such Shitholes as Afghanistan, Korea, Africa the Middle East should have their hands UNTIED and be allowed to do what they were trained… Read more »
Brendan
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Really?
You think we didn’t have rules of engagement in WW2?

Jon Lewis
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well when you firebomb Dresden and kill 1/2 million civilians and do the same to Tokyo drop an few Atom Bombs on civilian populations I guess I’d have to say NOPE! The soldiers on the gound used common sense when necessary but ey you get in the way of a bullet sorry bout that.

Brendan
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Firebombing Dresden was a shameful act on our part.
The bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were not… and your comparing them to Dresden is absurd.

Still, if you think US soldiers in WW2 were not restricted from deliberately killing noncombatants, you know very little of our military history.

JettieG
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More Japanese were killed in the fire bombings of Tokyo than in Hiroshima and Nagasaki combined. And, sorry, Bud, that is what happens in war. And, we were not the ones conducting heinous medical experiments on captured civilians like the Germans and Japanese did.

Winghunter
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Why don’t YOU tell us what the differences are between WWII ROEs and Obama’s ROEs.
ARE WE CATCHING ON YET??

Mark C
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The problem is that we have rules of engagement and our enemies have none. The only rule they have is KILL Americans.

Brendan
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We fight barbarians.
We don’t become them.

falling321
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We do not have to become barbarians in order to destroy our enemy on the battlefield. But we can’t destroy them hopping on one foot, unarmed when they come onto our base while having both hands tied behind our back and our pants down around our knees! Do not kill civilians is a far cry from “do not fire back unless you can do so without killing anyone other than your direct target, do not fire without being fired up and if you ARE fired upon, do not fire back if the guy who just shot the guy on your… Read more »
Mofoluwagbo Olubunmi Ojo
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Mofoluwagbo Olubunmi Ojo

were u or r u in the miliatry? if not, pls shut the hell up…

Brendan
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Yes, I was in the Army.
All you had to do was click on my profile to see that.

JettieG
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What did you do in the Army?

Angelo Vazquez
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what did you do for our country?

The_Patriot
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it’s what happens when the government get involved in military operations. it should be left to the generals.

falling321
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Unfortunately Obama has replaced all of our top level military brass with weak namby pambies.

The_Patriot
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Well, Yes men anyway

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worldwatchers
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Barack Hussein Obama put in special rules of engagement so that the United States and NATO forces can sustain the most casualties possible!! Plain and simple everybody knows that

falling321
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It certainly appears that way, whether it is true or not.

worldwatchers
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Such a Very simple thing to check ROE for Afghanistan Obama has killed % many more Americans since he took office. Use your head investigate!!

Winghunter
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How else do we pretend to explain open sexual deviancy and women in combat?? OR any of this:

Top Generals: Obama Is Purging The Military
http://mobile.wnd.com/2013/10/top-generals-obama-is-purging-the-military/

11/2013: Louie Gohmert Exposes Obamacare Secret
Security Force http://dcclothesline.com/2013/11/16/louie-gohmert-gets-real-exposes-obamacare-secret-security-force/

8/2013: Retired Marine Col. Pete Martino: “Is Everybody Blind?” The US “Is Building a Domestic Army!” http://dcclothesline.com/2013/08/18/retired-marine-col-pete-martino-is-everybody-blind-the-us-is-building-a-domestic-army/

Brendan
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That would be terrible if it were true.

worldwatchers
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Very simple to check ROE for Afghanistan Obama has killed % many more Americans since he took office. Use your head investigate!!

Mark C
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I have sons in the military and I have talked to a lot of personnel that aren’t too found of our president. They don’t feel that he gives a rats ass about them. Of course he should have some insight into terrorism and how it works since he has family in the Muslim brotherhood and Al Qaeda. Even as a retired president, Bush goes out of his way to spend time with the armed forces. I didn’t like bush much either, so I am not big on defending him. But Obama doesn’t even care about them now. He is more… Read more »
Brendan
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Why have US deaths gone up in Afghanistan under Obama?
because under Obama, we refocused our attention on fighting Al Qaeda, whereas Bush ignored Afghanistan to focus resources in Iraq… even though Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11.

If you want to play the numbers game… be honest and include Iraq.
More US military personnel were killed under Bush than Obama.

Also, more terrorists were killed under Obama, than Bush.

NCTarheel25
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So I guess they have all gone away.

EricStoner
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Good moron, keep fluffing.

Winghunter
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Why did Bush have to “ignore” Afghanistan to win in Iraq? 12/2006 Bill Clinton and the Decline of the Military “After Bush was elected and the country had suffered the 9/11 attacks, former Defense Secretary Caspar Weinberger said Clinton had cut back the military so much that we might not be able to fight a war on terrorism on several fronts. He listed the problems brought on during the Clinton years: lost air and sea lift capacity, two or three years during which nothing was procured for the military, and cuts in R&.D”. http://www.humanevents.com/2006/12/21/bill-clinton-and-the-decline-of-the-military/ Why We Went to War (In… Read more »
falling321
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Wrong. Our deaths in Afghanistan have gone up because our men and women are operating under insane rules of engagement! My son was there for a year recently, assigned to a base up in the north western mountains. In the middle of the base was a road. His barracks were on one side of that road and his office on the other! The first time he went to his office, he discovered that the most recent paper (I will not explain everything his team does, but part of it is producing ‘paper’ or counter intelligence) had been produce in 2008!… Read more »
JettieG
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God Bless your son for his valour and we thank him for his service. TY for providing one view that helps to explain the morass obama has created for the troops there.

Reba
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You know what? I just spent the last ½ hour crying over this article. I might be wrong, but I don’t give a damn how many died under what President. What I do care about is the number of the men and women that have died because of the crap this administration is passing and they don’t give a damn about our Military. Now throw in the Generals, Officers and Enlisted that has been booted out because of this administration, which was our knowledge and who cared about our men and women. Then to top it off, Afghanistan just released… Read more »
Timothy-Allen Albertson
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Timothy-Allen Albertson

You need not be forgiven for caring about those who go into harm’s way for us. You need to be praised.

Reba
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Thank you for your kind words, Timothy.

Timothy-Allen Albertson
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Timothy-Allen Albertson

You are most welcome,

JettieG
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Let’s hope there are more like you voting in November.

Reba
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Thank you and I also hope people’s eyes are opened as things come to light.

JettieG
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I did read both posts, and I also responded.

Reba
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Thought t was my first one you responded to. Don’t mind me today, I’m, just irritated about some of the post.

JettieG
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No prob. Don’t let ’em get under yer skin. Come and join us sane-minded folks here:
http://weaselzippers.us/

Reba
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Thank you. I didn’t see a place to join, but I will look later.

JettieG
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Don’t need to join. You can read and post as you got Disqus. We have a nice family.

Reba
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Sorry, I was talking about the one I posted an hour go

JettieG
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That was the one I read from you. :+)

Winghunter
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Emotion has no place in politics or war and it is the reason why it took women so long to get the vote AND once they got it they abused this power to force big government on us. If you want to know why Obama is in office, look to women. Women’s Suffrage Over Time http://t.co/i77RCGb THIS is why more of our brothers were killed in action. Obama forced them to be targets: “Our government’s incessant tightening of already restrictive ROE (Rules of Engagement), compounded by the failed COIN (Counterinsurgency) strategy—also known as “winning hearts and minds”—has made an otherwise… Read more »
NCTarheel25
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The reason it took so long for the women to get the vote is fools like you.

Winghunter
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Had you read the article, idiot, you would know that women have proven those “fools” absolutely correct!

JettieG
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Beg to differ, Sir. I am a Conservative woman and refuse to accept the drivel of the Left. Please do not generalize and put all women in the category you have created for us. I am not one of them.

Reba
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Well said and in so few
words. (Would have helped if I had refreshed and I would have seen everything).

Reba
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Winghunter, your chose this discussion to express your dislike of women? You’re an ass!! Emotions? Well, I happened to be at home, sitting at my desk when I read this article. Yes, there is a time and place for Emotions. If you had no emotions while you read this article about all the lives we have lost and had no emotions Winghunter, you’re an empty shell of a man. Men, women and every Ethic group in the country voted for Obama. Personally, I don’t give a damn who voted for Obama, I didn’t and it’s a done deal. Can’t undo… Read more »
Mark C
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I am with you. I can’t understand why Obama and this administration is getting away with all the lies and deception. to say nothing of abuse of presidential powers. misuse of Executive orders. Ignoring the constitution and the will of the people. He should be impeached and arrested.and imprisoned. Biden too!

EricStoner
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Don’t know if you saw this but Turley is a huge lib and now he’s waking up unlike the W haters posting on this thread. He rightfully describes them as cultist.

Jonathan Turley on Expansion of Executive: http://news.yahoo.com/video/jonathan-turley-dangerous-expansion-obamas-024639839.html?pt=BureoF3GVB

Reba
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Unfortunately Impeachment would go nowhere. That’s the problem with everything, Harry Reid, sits on it, or they vote it down. I wonder why, when he started writing EO and started changing the Obama Care, why they never took it to the Supreme Court. His administration has broken the laws so many times and still is. It is maddening! Everyone keeps saying wait till the Election, but you know what, we might not have an Election the way things are going. Why don’t the American People have the option of recalling the Elected Officials that are not following what they sworn… Read more »
John
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FYI…. your stats are BS! November 2004 we lost 54 US service members in under 2 weeks during the second battle of Fallujah! There’s no reason to believe a damn thing from this idiot! this article is a disservice to those who sacrificed everything you anti-Obama turf! I don’t care for either Bush or Obama’s decisions but let’s stop what’s really going on!

JustJPs
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You are a fricken IDIOT John.
So are the 2 libiots that up voted your post.

Winghunter
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‘US TROOP FATALITIES IN AND AROUND AFGHANISTAN’
Is Fallujah in Iraq or is it in or around Afghanistan?? You stupid SOB.

John
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all I meant by this table is Bush didn’t jump into Afghanistan…. WHERE BIN LADEN WAS HIDING! he chose to go into Iraq for his lies of WMD and cost the lives of 4486 service members…FOR NO REASON RELATED TO 9/11. At least Obama concentrated the war in the correct country we should have been in in the first place and killed the one responsible for 9/11. If Bush did his job more US troops would have been killed in Afghanistan hunting Bin Laden instead of going after Saddam. THIS ARTICLE HAS NO POINT!

Jason Jacoby
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John are you really this dim and uninformed? what the hell do you think the battle for Tora Bora was all about? or have you even heard of it? go read up and then come back and apologize and admit your mistake

EricStoner
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And to what end, your fantasy of “killing Bin Laden” and all would be great? Yep, when John Gotti went prison and died, all organized crime went away with him. Cling to your stupidity.

JettieG
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Funny, I seem to remember that Bush had Congressional approval to fight in Iraq.

EricStoner
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Twice! And all of these people, before thinking they had found a way to place blame on W were for it before they became against it, the list of sniveling cowards: http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/b/bushlied.htm#.Uv5fXV5DG6s

JettieG
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But, it was Bush’s fault, Eric! Now the teflon man gets no blame for anything. Makes me sick.

EricStoner
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Sadly this is going to have a Jonestown kind of ending for the “cult of Obama”. They are down to hysterical name calling because that’s all they have left. Their leader has left them out to dry with his trail of well documented lies, ON EVERYTHING. Total freakish creation of the left and the eunuchs in the media.

JettieG
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I hope not. Take the Senate and keep the House in November. Pummel the golf camel.

Winghunter
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Why did Bush have to make a choice between Iraq and Afghanistan? 12/2006 Bill Clinton and the Decline of the Military http://www.humanevents.com/2006/12/21/bill-clinton-and-the-decline-of-the-military/ “After Bush was elected and the country had suffered the 9/11 attacks, former Defense Secretary Caspar Weinberger said Clinton had cut back the military so much that we might not be able to fight a war on terrorism on several fronts. He listed the problems brought on during the Clinton years: lost air and sea lift capacity, two or three years during which nothing was procured for the military, and cuts in R&D.” Did Clinton and the Democrats… Read more »
JettieG
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I give you a gold star for your work.

falling321
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Maybe you missed it, but Bin Laden was killed by our SEALS and he was in Pakistan at the time, not Afghanistan, so your whole premise that we should only be operating in Afghanistan is incorrect. Iraq was a very winnable war…or was until the Democrats cranked up their political machine and started telling our allies in Iraq that they had no intention of allowing the war in Iraq to ever be won, meaning that no Iraqi that stepped up to help us would ever be safe from the revenge of the Taliban and Al Quaeda…and in Iraq we are… Read more »
EricStoner
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The Obama supporters are just boring at this point in time where there “man” has been shown to be a total fraud but, the cultist cling.

NCTarheel25
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Obama supporters only blame Bush.

Winghunter
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No. We owed the cavemen a chance at freedom and we gave it to them. Now, anymore of the same BS from them and we turn the sandpits into glass bowls.

André van Delft
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Off topic, some good news: ex-Twitter talent Alex Payne is making free software that makes government work better. His first target seems to be the Department of Veterans Affairs. Read the wonderful story here: https://al3x.net/2014/02/11/back-to-my-roots.html

Dan
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These numbers are deceiving. They don’t account for the deaths of nearly 4,000 civilian soldiers (contractors) since 2001. These contractors are subsidized by the US Department of Defense, and are currently about 111,000 strong. By using these contract soldiers, our elected officials can post a lower US military presence, as well as a lowered casualty rate, as they only count active military casualties. You’ll find it is very difficult to locate civilian contractor casualty information online. http://dbacomp.com/defensebaseactcomp/2012/12/31/civilian-contractor-casualty-count/
http://americancontractorsiniraq.org/overseasciviliancontractors/category/contractor-casualties-2/

Jacqueline Lynn
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You do not send a fighter into the ring with his hands tied behind his back. This president with his ROE is doing just that to our troops. If one breaks the rules to SAVE LIVES ,HE faces imprisonment from a government that should be giving him a medal.
Do not let your children enlist in this man’s military! Death, maiming, the denial of voting rights and the right to bear arms as civilians are their rewards from this Administration. Send them, instead to facilities that train them how to fight to win, by all means. As do our enemies!

Shekesmom
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I’m loyal too! This president inherited the war from the past president. This president is pulling us out of the war but I GUESS NO ONE CARES. Good old George sits back and let President Obama take the fall for his screw up. What’s wrong with you people? Take the black out of the man and change his political party and anything he did would be fine. America is still screwed up.

NCTarheel25
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And all hell is breaking loose.

Timothy-Allen Albertson
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Timothy-Allen Albertson

President Bush is a hero and a loyal American. obama is a murdering traitor

Mitzie
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George Bush would not have let the conditions lend itself to our troops being “led to the slaughter.” I just read of a classmates son’s friend being killed very recently by someone who was in uniform and it wasn’t an American! Wakeup! How can people be so blind to reality and so enamored by another human being who is not majestic but puts his pants on one leg at a time just like everyone else. Another thing, most are not racist as you proclaim, it is what you want to believe; it is what the liberals want you to believe… Read more »
skippingdog
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Then why were there so many more casualties in Iraq than in Afghanistan?

Reba
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NEWSFLASH! Obama is not BLACK; he is mix which includes WHITE.

Timothy-Allen Albertson
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Timothy-Allen Albertson

obama is a worthless piece of trash

EleeK
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mu·lat·to [muh-lat-oh, -lah-toh, myoo-]
noun, plural mu·lat·toes, mu·lat·tos.
1.
Anthropology . (not in technical use) the offspring of one white parent and one black parent.
2.
Older Use: Often Offensive. a person who has both black and white ancestors.

Reba
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Obama is not BLACK; he is mix which includes WHITE.
He has more than white and black.

ETay
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Wow! I mean, WOW! Many Presidents in the past have inherited wars from their predecessors. The difference between them and the current President is that they actually realized that they needed to do something about it instead of just saying, “B-b-b-b-but the last guy…”

It’s been five years! It’s time for Obama to start accepting responsibility.

By the way, Shekesmom, you were the first person to bring up Obama’s color. Maybe you’re the one with the race problem.

NCTarheel25
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So right. If everything goes well, Obama takes credit. If not, it’s Bush’s fault.

EricStoner
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Because he’s black? No, because he’s a fraud and a liar but stick with it sweet lips, it’s all you got in the tank.

JettieG
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Pulling troops out at what cost? And, how is Iraq working for you now?

skippingdog
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Are you one of those who wanted us to occupy Iraq for the next 75 years?

JettieG
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Not occupy, help to maintain. Like Japan and Germany. Also bases for the forces. You obviously know nothing about strategy.

skippingdog
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“Help to maintain” is a wonderful euphemism for justifying an army of occupation, like that we’ve had in Japan and Germany for nearly three-quarters of a century.

NCTarheel25
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Not even close. We do not occupy Japan or Germany. We have bases there.

JustJPs
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Obama will never take responsibility for anything that goes bad. He is the “I didn’t know” child in chief.

Why is everything racial to a liberal progressive?

Nina Sage
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Then they go to the funeral, lie to the parents and listen to a speech from the local imam condemning their child’s souls to hell. Minigod and his quislings need to be shot on sight, and I pray daily for an assassin. Keep your children well, and out of the current military.

Steve Lemish
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someone please report this post to the Secret Service

NCTarheel25
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You do it.

davie guitar
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Why don’t you report it yourself? Aren’t you a “someone”?

Timothy-Allen Albertson
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Timothy-Allen Albertson

people can not pray now? how very lieberal and I bet you are the one of those who wanted President Bush dead and would never have reported anyone calling for his murder

EricStoner
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Well after all, this was the “good war” according to Obama as he abandons both, Iraq, and Afghanistan and denigrates the efforts of our brave soldiers, our military.

Jbonemiddlewing
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CAn we see a graph of the Iraq wars casualties? During Bushs term it was 4x than during Obamas

ToucheTurtle
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Do you want to just look at a chart, or do you want to know the rest of the story as well? Be very careful what you ask for!!!!!

Timothy-Allen Albertson
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Timothy-Allen Albertson

and if President Bush had the same ROEs as obama has adopted there would have 20,000 KIAs.

Badgerbabe
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What I am about to say, will ANGER many, but it HAS to be said. IF we walk out of Afghanistan, pull each and every American Troop out of that quagmire… there WILL be a price to pay, for each and every Afghan citizen who HELPED and SUPPORTED our efforts there. The EXACT same thing happened to not only the Vietnamese we abandoned, but Cambodia and Laos as well. I KNOW these things, because I married a WONDERFUL man who lost EVERYTHING when he was a child, sat in a refuge camp in Thailand for YEARS, until he was finally… Read more »
Reba
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I don’t agree with you the way you said it, but it does not anger me. That is not a reason for us to stay. Saying that, I would much rather give amnesty to those that help us and that are trustworthy, then the ones the administration is bringing in under the radar and all the ones that are in our country that are trying to hurt us.

Badgerbabe
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@Reba, I understand how you feel… I loathe this war, not the reason we invaded Afghanistan. When we first sent our troops over there, we knew why… 9-11 had happened, and we knew the Taliban had allowed Bin Laden and his terrorist pals train and plan attacks. But when President Bush took that war off the “Priority List”, invaded Iraq, and spent the next several years with a rather paltry amount of US military to “handle things”… our purpose for even being in Afghanistan was questionable at best. President Obama allowed the surge to go forward in Afghanistan, but he… Read more »
Scimitar06
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No, we owe no responsibility at all for any of these people. For thousands of years they have continued to let themselves be led by the nose, controlled and bullied..as a nation. If they want this then let them have it, if they don’t then THEY should do something about it. Too many times I have seen the people, that we supposedly owe a responsibility for, turn against the Allied troops that are bleeding in an effort to give them to chance to fix themselves. So, no I don’t think we owe them or their Country anything…except the deep seated… Read more »
Badgerbabe
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Scimitar, I DO understand how you feel about this issue, God knows MANY Afghans have turned and murdered the very people (US Troops), who are there at OUR GOVERNMENTS orders, to help the civilian population, and the supposedly “like minded” members of this NEW Karzai Government. IF I were President, I would have gone in just like we did in WW2, and obliterate the enemy, setting the civilian casualties issue to the side, UNTIL the war was ended. These days, there is entirely TOO MUCH “touchy feely” EMOTIONAL baggage inserted into Military Missions, which hog-ties our troops from completing their… Read more »
Reba
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I do agree we should bring back the ones that helped our troops. If they have proved themselves without a shadow of doubt and the troops are for it, then I’m for it. Yes our administration has a problem bringing Americans home and also the ones that are suffering for helping us. Sad! I don’t trust them either on anything. If they are not brought back with our troops, maybe they can hang on until we get someone in the White House that will. Yep, he released 64 terrorists back into the population and also will not sign the Treaty… Read more »
JD82
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Nice graphic about Afghanistan. Shall we compare Iraq numbers or should we just keep throwing out propaganda that tries to make the current regime, whose first action was to change the wars from a 2 front war, Iraq and Afghanistan, to a war in a single country. Bush lost 4852 troops under his watch, Obama has lost 1945. Thats the facts.

Scimitar06
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Regardless of what the numbers are.the fact that this current guy in the White House is one of the biggest traitors in American history and deserves a traitors execution, just as fast as he can be tried for his crimes, is a given.

Carl Smith
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traitor how?

NCTarheel25
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Puts him in the same category as Bush don’t it?

Angelo Vazquez
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This article is addressing afganistan

Lesley Price
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This article addresses wayyyy more than just afganistan & the fact you haven’t grasp’d this by now should concern you…..

ToucheTurtle
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Yes, it certainly SHOULD address how the POTUS has ham-stringed our military men and women with his new way of “making peace, not war!” What concerns me is that he continues to send our young men and women over there KNOWING many will be maimed or die because of HIS ignorance about how to fight a war!!! You are right . . . . this article should have detailed ALL of the sweeping changes in policy initiated by this administration and what a miserable failure they are!! Thank you for bringing that to our attention, girlfriend!!!!

Angelo Vazquez
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really, does this mention operations in Iraq once? the fact that you cannot understand Iraq and Afghanistan are 2 different operations should concern you.

Georgia_Girl
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You support Barack Obama. The fact that you haven’t grasped any problems with that should concern you. It certainly concerns me.

EleeK
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Even posting these facts does not move some into knowledge. They still want to blame someone other than the current POTUS even though he has been in office for 5 years now.

What I want to know is how do we educate the young adults when so many of the 40+ generation are so into themselves and what feels good that they have no clue. We have kids that we raised that have gone on to be brainwashed by the nonsense they read/hear. No common sense in the world of our culture. SMH

Reba
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I gave my Nephews and Nieces a copy of the Constitution and Bill of Rights. Told them to read it (one at a time) and when they finished, I told them, to read it again and write down any questions they may have. Then we discuss it and I let them talk before I say anything. Whatever questions they had, I printed out the issues on the discussion. I then recorded the latest News from different News Stations and had them watch each one. Then I asked them to listen again and write down what they thought. I made it… Read more »
sequoya
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You are a true hero. Thank you for educating young minds…….

Reba
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Thank you, but I’m no hero, just from a long line of a Military family. I just happened to be floored one weekend when my nephew was staying. At dinner I asked him how school and ROTC was going and what were they studying. The Holocaust Anniversary was that week and during the whole conversation he never brought up the Holocaust. After we finished talking I turned around and asked him: What did you learn this week in school about the Holocaust. He had the blankest look on his face and it took me a minute to realize he didn’t… Read more »
yamamma
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troop averages in afghanistan 2001-2008: just under 17,000. in 2001 there were basically no troops on the ground – with a ramp up over the years – surprise! just like the ramp in deaths….at the end of 2008, there were 32k troops. when obama took office, the military’s recommendation was to surge troops – this brought troop count over 100k. obama didn’t just invent the surge on day one. this is why the death count went up. obama couldn’t extract everyone right away – everyone who understands military ops and the political imperative to maintain / increase troop presence understands… Read more »
Timothy-Allen Albertson
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Timothy-Allen Albertson

obama should be tried for murder for his ROEs which favor not offending the enemy over the lives of US military personnel

NCTarheel25
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I agree. People should take the time and see what our brave men and women in the field are saying.

John131
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Here’s a better image, it includes military deaths in Iraq too. Unfortunately, it completely negates the point of the original image.
http://s3.amazonaws.com/dk-production/images/69299/large/NewFatalities.png?1392429119

Angelo Vazquez
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Are correct in saying that he did not show the iraq war.but Col west was not talking about iraq, he talking about the failure in afganistan

Lesley Price
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What failure in afganistan? Mr. West’s clear intention here is to portray Pres Obama in a negative light when all it really did was portray Mr. Allen as the less than honorable man he is. Please read “yamamma”‘s comment below; his post is way more eloquent than mine.

Angelo Vazquez
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HAVE YOU EVER BEEN TO AFGANISTAN? HAVE LOST FRIENDS IN AFGANISTAN? if you cant answer yes, then you are always going to defend Obama no matter what. Obama has ZERO military experience, and it shows in all operations. but I know NO MATTER WHAT Obama did a good job in your eyes…… I don’t know Col West from a whole in a wall but for you to say he is not honorable because he is posting an article addressing a issue is insane. he may not be 100% right, but that doesn’t mean he didn’t put his life on the… Read more »
Carl Smith
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Bush started this mess with a search for WMDs that didn’t exist. Haliburton made billions. Bush had no active military experience either. This is biased nonsense because he’s Republican. It’s dumb.

sara2101
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How about a little historical context? It was the bleeding hearts that squealed about Saddam gassing the Kurds that initiated much of what followed. Remember? The WMD that never were? Right! CNN themselves videoed the transfer of “unexplained” munition transfers from Iraq into Syria prior to the US “invasion”. Does “truth” and “reality” matter to anyone anymore?

NCTarheel25
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So are you, dumb.

ToucheTurtle
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Because Col West served our country and has first-hand knowledge of which he speaks, perhaps it is time for you to accept the fact that the truth hurts! Case in point: ask the military officer who survived a shoot-out with Infidel Husen at Fort Hood! She was the one in a wheel chair being supposedly honored at the WH, and even though she was there to be honored and had met the POTUS before, he didn’t even take the time to find out which soldier she was!!! Does THAT portray a caring President to you? You can say anything you… Read more »
Angelo Vazquez
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If I want to use this chart in a paper for my essay for my class in the state university, where can I find these numbers as well?
Angelo
USAF veteran

John131
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It’s right there in the image, icasualties.org. Be sure to include the Iraq numbers unless you (like Allen West) have a vested interest in skewing numbers to one side or another.

Georgia_Girl
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Rigggght. . . Because Obama is really a friend of the soldier? Allen West has made all of this up from his imagination? Ridiculous! There is nothing to skew. Obama is an insult to the title of Commander in Chief.

Angelo Vazquez
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The article not talking about iraq, why would you include iraq?

Angelo Vazquez
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OK,,,,, to accuse me of a vested interest in skewing number is going way to far. I was a medic in the Air Force, I GARENTEE YOU, I personally seen more of these number than you. Unless you was working in Landstulh or Ramstein (where the hospital in GER is at) you haven’t seen the fatalities like we did over there. I cant speak for Col. West. even so, the number on that chart are the exact same as the numbers he has….. so what are you exactly saying? do you honestly think anybody want to portray more dead people… Read more »
mrky
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The only ROE that should apply in a time of war is “if it isn’t dressed like you, kill it”. You would be amazed how quickly an enemy force will surrender when you march in there and kill anything that moves. Civilian casualties? Who cares? Current standards would have you believe that the military of any nation is some autonomous force which operates of it’s own volition. Not true. Every civilian who resides in a nation at war, through their normal day to day activities, is supporting their military effort in one fashion or another, voluntarily or involuntarily, and with… Read more »
notenoughtime
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Elections have consequences especially when the individual elected as Commander in Chief should be sitting only in a faculty lounge and not in the Oval Office.

JOHN STEEL
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this unspoken deal Obama has with TERRORIST is working out fine for him.
they be good & and we be nice. the American people in the interim feel safe , thinking Obama is responsible…what he is responsible of is another lie . we are safe only if we behave.

gjroth
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Obama is a traitor and should be dealt with in the customary way.

Carl Smith
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Retiring with full benefits?

NCTarheel25
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I hope so. He earned them.

Tom P
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I proudly served my country as a career military officer for 29 years. I am thankful that my certificate for “honorable and faithful service” bears the signature of President George W. Bush on it rather than the fraud who is currently occupying the White House.

Carl Smith
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Nerd.

NCTarheel25
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Tom, ignore Carl Smith, I thank you for your service.

sara2101
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Yes thank you.

Reba
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My worse half retired after 30 years and will not hang anything that has President Obama signature on it. Nothing is hanging!

hankmacaw
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Two of my G’sons have wanted a military career since their early childhood. Both prepared for their careers and one became an officer in the Army and the other a SEAL. Both joined the services during Bush’s administration, both will leave the services during Obama’s administration – they refuse to continue to fight under the man who has betrayed them and their brothers in arms, time after time.

Reba
Guest

Rightly so!

Peter Dow
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“They face a non-state, non-uniformed enemy that blends in with the civilian population and knows our ROE (Rules of Engagement).” Actually, no the Taliban ARE a state force – a Pakistani state force. The Taliban get funding from Saudi Arabia too so they are in part a Saudi state force as well. For years the President and Congress have been spending American taxpayers money to aid Pakistan. All this time Pakistan has funded terrorists and built nuclear weapons and perhaps this is why the American taxpayer money spent on Pakistan did not feature in President Obama’s State of the Union… Read more »
Peter Dow
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..

him
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Deaths “skyrocketed” in Afghanistan due to troop level increases under the Obama administration. Bush’s focus was Iraq; thus his administration had more casualties in the Iraqi theater than Obama’s. The body count for each is correlated to their mission focus. He’s not distorting the numbers, but his argument lacks context and is dishonest in it’s portrayal of those numbers. You can’t use your former commander status to add credibility to your argument and then misrepresent the information to attempt to gain political points. If anything, as a former commander, he should have the decency to represent the facts correctly: under… Read more »
Gary Ziegler
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Your assessment is correct. The increase in US casualties in Afghanistan that have occurred under Obama is NOT the result of a change in ROEs combined with the failure of a counterinsurgency strategy. The increase in casualties under the Obama administration are based on 3 factors to include: 1. An increase, or surge, in the number of US troops that were sent to Afghanistan during the Obama administration, which included 17,000 in 2009, Obama’s first year in office. “Gen. David McKiernan, the top U.S. commander in Afghanistan, concerned about deteriorating security there, has asked for 30,000 additional U.S. troops. President… Read more »
Scott Aye
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Dam! WTF?

Gary Ziegler
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The increase in US casualties in Afghanistan since Obama took office in 2009 is NOT the result of a change in ROEs combined with the failure of a counterinsurgency strategy. The increase in casualties since Obama took office are based on 3 factors to include: 1. An increase, or surge, in the number of US troops that were sent to Afghanistan during the Obama administration, which included 17,000 in 2009, Obama’s first year in office. “Gen. David McKiernan, the top U.S. commander in Afghanistan, concerned about deteriorating security there, has asked for 30,000 additional U.S. troops. President Obama is sending… Read more »
Dave
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Didn’t Obama say that one of his first priorities in his FIRST election was to take our troops out of Afghanistan? Anyone who can’t see Obama for who he truly is and his agenda to make the entire world a Socialist state doesn’t deserve to call themselves patriotic or American.

PATRIOT.WW48
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Great article Mr. West. If we’re not there to win, bring them home. It seems that no president in a long time knows how to FIGHT-a-WAR. You kill people and break things till the enemy Quits. We beat them in ‘NAM, but the damn left-wing politicians turned tail and ran. the way they all have since. No need to tell me why you voted for NDAA. No reason will justify killing the 4th amendment.

Carl Smith
Guest

What makes it great? It’s biased and idiotic.

NCTarheel25
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So says a liberal.

Leonard Corwin
Guest

Right on, brother.

Joe Viocoe
Guest

Where are the Iraq numbers?
I think Bush’s numbers look great in Afghanistan, because instead of hunting down Bin Laden and Al Qaeda… we were stuck looking for WMDs in the wrong country.

Joe Viocoe
Guest

A better metric of military ‘efficiency’ would be to include the number of boots on ground. And a ‘per capita’ death rate.
The graphic is propaganda nonsense without that context.
Once included, a person would easily see that although deaths increased, the number of troops increased by a equal or greater amount.
Thus fulfilling the promise that was made on 9/11, that we would track them down and kill the enemy… instead of getting bogged down in another country.

Patty Hearst
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0bama is coward not willing to stand with the troops, even though he is POTUS, the biggest pussy of the United States…

Hal S.
Guest

Agreed

kdeh2
Guest

Allen West, I think on this your’re wrong. It is vitally important for our president to have had some military background in order to lead our military through war, any war. We’re not living in la la land, wonderland, or Oz land you know. The real world requires experience on all fronts. This guy doesn’t have any experience, ANY AT ALL! He’s the most incompetent US Leader in US History and the hands down winner of the idiocy award.

sara2101
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Barrack Hussein Obama – “LIAR OF THE YEAR 2013”
Barrack Hussein Obama – “JOKER OF THE YEAR 2014”
Worst president since WW II.
Bwahahahahahaaaa!!!!!

Keith Davidson
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The Democrats have played this whole thing perfectly. If I were an evil steaming bag of fly-ridden, maggot-eaten horse sh*t, it’s exactly what I would do. Pull out of Iraq way too early, pull out of Afghanistan way too early, announce the whole thing openly to the enemy (whom you love more than your own county) and keep the entire war on terrorism from becoming a feather in George Bush’s hat. Next, conveniently forget how well the surge worked, but do one of your own to instill the false impression that our Commander-in-Chief has some tactical ability, and pull our… Read more »
Carl Smith
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You people are appalling. When it was Bush’s war you cheered. Now you act shocked and concerned. You question Obama’s war experience, but you ignored the fact the human larvae THAT SENT PEOPLE TO WAR IN THE FIRST PLACE was in the National Guard, which is basically the cub scouts of our American military. Hey I forget: has Bush found his weapons of mass destruction yet? No? He’s not busy, maybe he should go over and look for himself.

sara2101
Guest

How about a little historical context? It was the bleeding hearts that squealed about Saddam gassing the Kurds that initiated much of what followed. Remember? The WMD that never were? Right! CNN themselves videoed the transfer of “unexplained” munition transfers from Iraq into Syria 6 moths prior to the US “invasion”. Does “truth” and “reality” matter to anyone anymore?

NCTarheel25
Guest

How do you know we cheered? Bush was cut to pieces daily. I wonder why gas used in Syria is a WMD but used in Iraq is is not? But as usual, everything Obama goes to Bush.

Mike
Guest

What a shocker, when you send in more troops to fight in more places, more of them get killed.

RetortToDeniers
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not true .. bush won the war in Iraq ..
more troops = fewer numbers were killed under Bush.

Obama record in Afgan 1800 killed …so far

IntelligenceisAVirtue
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IntelligenceisAVirtue

The article is about wounded soldiers in Afghanistan, if we included Iraq numbers, Bush would be ahead by thousands.

Mike
Guest

You’re solution is what, to have kept a 170,000 US forces in Iraq because that’s the only reason the violence went down, when US forces reduced violence grew again. Bush didn’t win jacksh8t, and if you think he won that war you’re as dumb as the people who lied to our faces and put us in with no plan for 4 years.

Jeannie4444
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Let’s see – There have been 500,000 Iraqi deaths (checking out the average on Google) from this war beginning with lies of Bush, Rumsfeld and Cheney (who also made $40 billion for Halliburton), why these tree heartless creatures are not in jail or in a torture-prevalent rest home is beyond me.

Blue Nintynine
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so when clinton and gore talked to the world about stopping sadam and his WMD, that was bushes fault also?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0f5u_0ytUs

http://youtu.be/chhsUU1FSi8

do your research, and stop getting all your news from jon stewart.

Jeannie4444
Guest

Thanks for the proof that it WAS Clinton!! (Appreciate your youtube).

Blue Nintynine
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do your research. Clinton and the Democrats are the one who started the “lie” http://youtu.be/S0f5u_0ytUs

Blue Nintynine
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another one of gore in ’98 http://youtu.be/fFBl0fnMUVc

RetortToDeniers
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*** JUST the SAME NUMBERS that at ALL OF OBAMAS advisors wanted! … 10,000.
BUSH WON THE WAR SO MUCH that obama said he won the war and was leaving IRAQ as a very stable country.
You are a Denier of facts… or U can do a search — afraid ?

BullSh1t
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When the CIC is a member of the Muslim Brotherhood…what else can you expect?