Taxpayer-funded Food Stamps for pot? What is Colorado smoking??

In a recent interview with The New Yorker magazine, President Barack Obama said he doesn’t think marijuana is more dangerous than alcohol, “in terms of its impact on the individual consumer.” He even went so far as to remind us of his own drug use (a disqualifier for Top Secret security clearance, by the way),

“As has been well documented, I smoked pot as a kid, and I view it as a bad habit and a vice, not very different from the cigarettes that I smoked as a young person up through a big chunk of my adult life. I don’t think it is more dangerous than alcohol,” the president said.

Well, guess what, the liberal progressives out in Colorado share his assessment. Since pot is no different from cigarettes and no more dangerous than alcohol, as part of the welfare nanny-state expansion, Colorado lawmakers have decided Electronic Benefits Transfer (EBT) cards, aka Food Stamps, can be used for withdrawals at pot shops. Unbelievable.

As reported by Fox News, Colorado pot shops currently have ATMs where welfare recipients can withdraw cash using their EBT cards.

A Democrat-controlled State Senate committee rejected the Republicans’ proposal to close this loophole. Sen. Vicki Marble, R-Fort Collins, said Colorado’s new legal pot industry needs to make sure not to invite federal scrutiny through improper cash withdrawals at recreational or medical marijuana stores. “Already we are operating an industry which is not allowed under federal law,” said Marble, one of the chief lawmakers involved with Colorado’s marijuana regulation bills.

However, the opposing liberal progressive perspective is always centered on victimization:

“I’m not comfortable limiting that access until I’m certain we’ve done that due diligence to make sure people can access their benefits when they need to,” Sen. Irene Aguilar, D-Denver, said.

I think State Senator Aguilar should go back and read the original intent for the US Food Stamp program, which was to provide healthy nutritious foods — American grown — for lower income families.

This whole matter is completely political and part of the grand design for progressives, where there are no boundaries, no moral standards, and the government — ultimately the American taxpayer — will pick up the tab.

And to think the federal government, under Obama, has produced ads to get even more people on food stamps, including ads appearing in Mexico. Is this just another example of what Alexis de Tocqueville described in the 1800s in his book Democracy in America: The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public’s money.

Is this just another case of political bribery by lawmakers for the return of electoral support, i.e. votes?

Do you think American taxpayers should subsidize the “legal” use of drugs for Coloradans? Of course, if you seek to establish some parameters or restraints on EBT card usage, you’re just a mean, bad, evil, nasty, intolerant, hater Republican.

Well, call me whatever names you wish, but this is wrong and anyone supporting EBT card use at pot shops, strip clubs, and anything not related to actual food is flat out wrong. The state of Colorado conducted a recall vote against several Colorado Democrat State Senators over the issue of gun rights — perhaps lightning will strike twice in the same place?

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jd13hbronzbac
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Well they aren’t smoking just Marlboro anymore!

Mike Kohler
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OK. Colorado has taken the lead to “legalize pot”. That’s fine. But, BEFORE the rest of America jumps on this bandwagon, let’s wait a while and SEE what happens. Will it be as much of a wonderful thing as proponents say? Will it cut crime, increase revenues and be without health consequence? OR, will it lead to less initiative, more addiction, more welfare, more taxpayer costs, etc. as opponents claim? Nobody really knows for sure right now. The “genius” of America as foreseen by our forefathers was that the individual STATES would have autonomy within their borders and be allowed… Read more »
Alaric Viola
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I agree heavily with you Mike. I have nothing against marijuana use and believe the only thing that makes it a “gateway drug” is that it is stigmatized and put in a corner with other drugs which are dangerous. Give tobacco and alcohol the same treatment as other drugs, give them the same stigmatism and put them in a corner, lump them in along with cocaine, heroine, methamphetamines, etc. and they too would become gateway drugs. The truth is that while these other drugs are manufactured, marijuana is all natural and completely unrefined. It has been used by countless civilizations… Read more »
HLJ
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I’ve seen the sneaky little negative side-effects in others, so all your hype about it being so very safe because it’s natural is only that – hype. I tried it a couple times, a few of decades ago, and there is nothing good about it. I don’t even smoke, and I was stupid enough to try it. Worst thing I ever did to myself – and it was supposed to be oh, so helpful for lifting me out of depression after escaping a horrible experience at the hands of an ex. It only made my life worse because I couldn’t… Read more »
Alaric Viola
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Like many things, such as alcohol, the effects depend on the person and the mood the person is in at the time. When drinking, if you are already in a good mood, odds are high you’ll stay in a good mood. If you’re in a depressed state before drinking, then the alcohol will only compound that. Also, who experiments with something that alters your mood in a place like a job, especially as a NEW user? Really…………. Do you drink at work too? Perhaps the err wasn’t in using it, but HOW, WHY and WHEN you used it. Since you… Read more »
HLJ
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Alaric, you misunderstood me, or I was not clear enough. I was much younger, and I did not do this at work, for Pete’s sake! I was stupid, but not THAT stupid. I tried it at home with friends who where trying to console me. I was beating myself up over marrying a horrid man – can’t go into detail here, but he went to court for his actions. My friends were very worried and wanted me to laugh for once. The effects of smoking that pot lasted, for me, for nearly two days. Very unusual, as I was told,… Read more »
Alaric Viola
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Actually, I never said it was harmless. Smoking anything harms the lungs. Eating it doesn’t. If you were high for 2 days off smoking once, you are the 1st I’ve ever heard of. Now, let me show you what happens when a non-loser gets “high”. This is my plan for economic stimulation and the reduction of unemployment. I believe it could go a loooooooooooong way towards helping America solve its problems. I conceived it while getting “high”. Charge a penalty tax to companies that outsource work to foreign countries, based on the amount of outsourcing and the size/value of the… Read more »
gtm615
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Alaric I suggest that maybe there has been a bit too much media and leftist political propaganda whitewashing and ignoring the facts of marijuana. So let me provide you with just a few along with personal experiences. Interesting article in Chemical and Eng. News about 10 years ago showed that the 7 most toxic and addictive substances in Cigarettes are also in Pot. The only difference is that in pot they are 5 times more concentrated. Being a Chemist with 35 years experience chemically analyzing contaminants and substances present in materials, I find this very revealing. But, in attempting to… Read more »
Alaric Viola
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I posted a response, but it disappeared for some reason. I addressed much of what you said, but don’t feel like rewriting it again, especially if it gets erased again. Really, it didn’t violate any restrictions either. Really strange.

gtm615
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It didn’t disappear. Maybe it just took time to get posted. But the same appeared to have happened to my reply. And, as you, if it doesn’t eventually show up, I have no interest in re posting it.

Alaric Viola
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You’re right. It’s popped up. Apparently I’m being “monitored” for some reason.

Alaric Viola
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Those chemicals come from smoking it, right? Which changes the chemical make-up, right? I only ask because you’re a chemist. And so eating it would have a different effect, correct? Also, if it has the same chemicals as cigarettes, and these chemicals are so bad, shouldn’t cigarettes be lumped in w/ marijuana? I mean, I hear you on the 5x thing, but who smokes enough marijuana to make the amount of these chemicals equal or greater than what they receive from cigarettes? Most smokers I know smoke 20+ cigarettes a day. That’s one pack. A person would have to smoke… Read more »
gtm615
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Alaric, it depends upon which “chemicals” you are referring to. If we are referring to the addictive and toxic substances present in pot at five times the concentration of cigarettes, the answer is yes. They do come from smoking. But then again, I wouldn’t touch or advise touching either. Or, maybe I am missing something…. you seem to think they should be treated equally with cigarettes. If that is true, were there not billions upon billions of dollars in law suits imposed upon the cigarette industry for addictive substances present? It seems to me I recall John Edwards making millions… Read more »
Alaric Viola
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Actually, I am debating that it should be classed in the same vein as cigarettes and alcohol. Since smoking causes the issues you describe, that doesn’t apply to marijuana used in food. Marijuana is considered a super food btw. Also, those same chemicals would be found in any agricultural endeavor that uses the land and water tables, like our food. So your argument there is kinda mute, unless you are saying growing these plants adds such things to the land and water tables. In which case I would still state that such processes are used in most all agriculture. If… Read more »
JustJay7
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I think this is beating a dead horse and making a point out of nothing. As much as I respect, and enjoy West’s articles, this one is rather thin. It’s the exact same as the issue with the ATM’s outside Liquor stores. That whole debacle was pushed aside and dismissed as a foolish endeavor once people realized the futility of their chest pounding. Sure, take the ATM’s out of pot stores… the users will just pull the money from a Walmart ATM and walk across the street to purchase their drugs or alcohol with it. We should really be focusing… Read more »
sroysr
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actually you CAN control how and what the money is used to purchase:
step1 – no cash withdrawals whatsoever for any reason
step2 – cards may only be able to purchase food and is further limited to exlude those not of a nutritious nature.
step3 – problem solved

JustJay7
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Devil’s advocate would argue that you’re then pushing people from bargain outdoor food stalls, and markets, and into large chains with credit card machines, pushing the tax payer’s dollar out of the hands of the working class, and into the 1%’er’s pockets.
To argue that, though, the event of technology has brought with it the ability to purchase anything with a card, anywhere you go, such as with the cellphone sliders.
So yes, I agree with your point, and I think both that, and the mandatory drug tests need to be implemented.

sroysr
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as long as the item has a upc label it can be controlled on the ebt card. and i agree 100% with mandatory drug testing. i had to take them to earn the money…

Janet Grape
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Who does not get that this guy is not a President..he is a preview to ALL that will destroy the United States of America…his very first agenda it to take out our Christian Nation…The very first indication that he gave to being a destroyer of America was to declare that We were no longer a Christian nation..followed by his declaration that we were Muslim…and etc…..God help him..he is on a slippery slope that only the ones who agree with his initial agenda will support..I pity the fools that pay attention to this man because of the color of his skin..and… Read more »
Dragon
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Court Martial Material!

kayrenee
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I would like to clear one thing up. EBT cards are for food and they also have one for the monthly cash benefits that some receive. It is that card they are talking about I am thinking. not the one for Food…It would serve us better for someone to check into this more…

aemoreira81
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You’re certainly raising a valid issue vis a vis the cash benefits. What one could do is restrict the amount of those benefits that can actually be withdrawn as cash…to avoid the abuse of that money. How it would be done is for debate.

TheSlot1942
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That’s it! I’m done! FedGov will never get another dime voluntarily from me.

LINDA SUNKLE-PIERUCKI
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LINDA SUNKLE-PIERUCKI

EBT cards can hold both Food Stamp funds and other welfare funds. The Food Stamp funds cant be used to purchase non-food items. Just because they’re on the same card, people seem to think that it’s all food stamp $$. Now, I dont think a welfare grant should be used to purchase pot, either-what they’re apparently using is the cash portion of a welfare grant. But the idea that it’s being purchased with Food Stamps stretches credibility and makes people who repeat this sound like idiots. Please check the facts, Col West.

HLJ
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Colonel West is correct in that EBT is being used to buy pot. They just don’t do it directly.

LINDA SUNKLE-PIERUCKI
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LINDA SUNKLE-PIERUCKI
Col West, in the terminology used, is NOT correct: if anyone is actually using FOOD STAMP balances to purchase pot, that is overtly fraud on the part of the store. And I rather doubt that is what is happening. Certainly someone may sell their food stamp balance and use the cash to buy pot-again, a fraudulent act. And NO welfare funds should be used to buy pot. But,-and this is the whole point of my complaint when people insist ‘recipients are using food stamps to buy’ (whatever) is that the statement is meant to incite, not inform. And it’s patently… Read more »
Herbert Napp
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This has been the case for a while now, legal or not.

Vet
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Linda if they want to get high then let them use money that they worked for, not tax $$$$.

vdetillion
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What America needs is a new president a new senate and a new supreme court

Scott
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What, you’ve never heard of edibles?

deowll
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The Democrat party used to be a decent place for decent people. Now its the home of the pot head.

the reaper!
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time for the second world war get your guns and lets go pothead hunting!!!!!lol but really do you think this hasnt already been happening? all i know who are pot smokers cant pass a drug test to get a jos so they are alredy selling their foodstamps for 50cents on the dollar to buy ppot now! if they dont do that they are going to the doctor on tenncare or medicade and saying this or that hurts get loratabs and sell them to buy their pot! anyway you look at it the working folks are going to buy the pot… Read more »
Robert B Ashkenes
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Ok while we seem to be on the same page in our hate of obama, your lack of intelligent thought, and the fact that you said “time for the second world war get your guns and lets go pothead hunting” when there has already been two world wars, shows me you are the reason most liberals do not want to listen to other views. Sheep follow the most intelligent people that offer the most freebies. Your lack of intelligence is insulting to me and to the cause against obama.

HLJ
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Robert, you are somewhat right in regard to the reaper’s lack of thought, but to bash this guy as unintelligent – and then make grammatical errors doesn’t help. Examples: “when there has already” should be “when there have already”. “Most intelligent people that” should be ” most intelligent people who.” Be careful of criticizing so harshly if you cannot deliver perfection yourself. I’m just sayin’….

Robert B Ashkenes
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I stand corrected. I am man enough to know when I am in the wrong.

HLJ
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It’s okay, Robert. I have done the same thing myself and had to eat crow, from someone pointing it out to me. No criticism of you intended. Just a friendly heads-up.

Don
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Oh HELL NO! AS A MATTER OF FACT, IT NEEDS TO HAVE A SIN TAX ATTACHED TO IT, JUST LIKE CIGGARETTES AND ALCOHOL !

aemoreira81
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That is an argument against legalization of weed. This was a take on it made in 2011 (albeit a humorous one):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M58kGCQLwxU

Alex
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I agree 100%.

Philanthropussy
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FYI, all casinos have ATM in their buildings. All the stores and bars on Bourbon Street have ATM’s (LA has rep governor). Most grocery stores have ATM’s (and a liquor section). Of course, just because the machines are in these places, doesn’t mean the money is going to be spent on illicit things..
BTW, Does Allen West “retirement” entitle him to Top Secret Sec?

Barry Atwell
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Most, if not all states have restrictions on the ability to withdraw cash from the EBT cards in liquor stores. Many also have restrictions for bars and some other types of establishments. This is a good thing. Pot stores should be added to the list.

aemoreira81
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1. The items that can be purchased can still be restricted (as I stated above—see NY’s WIC program for such an example) to restrict what can be purchased with such benefit cards.
2. Irrelevant! The topic is over SNAP benefits, not whether or not Allen West is entitled to a clearance.

Josh Corrington
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ATMs are in those places because there are still people left in this country who believes in earning their money.. and they have a bank account, that account comes with an ATM card which can be used to withdraw money that is yours.. to enjoy the goods and services those places offer.

HLJ
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It appears you also believe in your right to let your hard earned money go up in smoke, as well????

Josh Corrington
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Well since most of it gets taxed away from me anyway, might as well enjoy what I have left..

HLJ
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Oookeedokee then.

clhuntling
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The ONLY was cash can be withdrawn using an EBT card is if you have CASH BENEFITS as well. You cannot get a cash refund if you return an item while using an EBT card either, they simply credit the amount back to the card. You just do NOT get cash using an EBT card.

If the cannibus is purchase in FOOD form, cookies, snack bar etc, now that is a whole different story. I haven’t the foggiest clue how CO and Federal governments would settle that issue.

Philanthropussy
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I think as soon as CO gov accountants tally up the numbers for the first month of pot sales, everybody, dems, reps, feds, locs are all going to do happy. Money is the great equalizer.

sha49tn
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Doesn’t matter where there’s an ATM. If a person isn’t drawing SSI, they can NOT get money if the card is food stamps only.

JDNappers
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Philanthropussy
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I agree with you completely.
Remember, pot has been legal for only 23 days. If CO sees there are any abuses, I feel they will change their policies.

HLJ
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You are delusional. They will not change their policies. Try reporting abuses that have been going on for years. They don’t lift a finger.

Philanthropussy
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How can I delusional if I hope for the best? It’s called growing pains . The more you know, the better you do .

HLJ
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I say that in jest. If government was going to stop abuses, Obamanation would be out the door by now.

Philanthropussy
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That’s a real knee slapper

HLJ
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Actually, the White House would be a ghost town!

Philanthropussy
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Actually , I’m from DC. That place on weekends is a ghost town . Especially in the winter when the tourist aren’t around. Before they blocked off the front of the White House , you could drive up in front and yelll at the pres. Of course they couldn’t my hear you, but it was fun anyway . Or being the fastest person to run around the Wash monument or shaking the gates of the Mint demanding your money. Dumb kid stuff.

williampenn
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Democrat/Communist philosophy: a stoned populace is easier to rule.

HLJ
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I already thought of this, too. Since Obama knows how pot affects a person, Let’s just say he and those who are ruling HIM have already figured this out: “What if we legalize pot, convince US citizens that it’s okay to use it and then provide funding so they can freely get it? Because pot is such a nice, sneaky, well-accepted little sedative, they’ll never know what hit them. We can do what we want, and they won’t even be able to think fast enough to figure it out until it’s too late!! Isn’t that just a perfect little solution… Read more »
Alaric Viola
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Oh! You mean like the medical field did with pills and such? After all, I’m sure you know plenty of people who aren’t right in the head anymore after they started taking their medically prescribed, FDA approved drugs on a regular basis. I have met plenty of such zombies. I do a lot of work for elderly folks who can’t help themselves. My father, for example, went on certain doctor prescribed pills to deal with some health issues. He was a zombie for years,….. till he quit and came back to us as the man we used to know. So… Read more »
HLJ
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Like my mom and dad used to say. “If your friend jumps off a bridge to her death, are you gonna do that, too?” Just because everybody does it doesn’t make it right.
I do agree with you on the FDA approved drug comments. Hate those things and don’t use them myself.

Upaces
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Pot Heads in Texas approach this differently. People SELL their food stamps for an “X” amount on the dollar, then they go buy pot.

HLJ
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I agree. I personally know of someone who does this.

Ron
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Not just Texas. All over the U.S. I support a routine drug test to qualify for any government money, including unemployment insurance.

Upaces
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How dare you use common sense!!!
I don’t know why they haven’t done this already all over the U.S.

sha49tn
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EBT cards are NOT always for food stamps. My brother drew SSI, & his money was put on the EBT card. There’s NO way to get money from an EBT card unless you’re drawing SSI. Anytime you use the card, it asks if it’s for food, or use it as a debit card. If a business is allowing people to purchase non food items with their card, then that business is breaking a federal law that says you can’t buy anything other than food.

Barry Atwell
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SSI is welfare. It is not the same as SSD. Other welfare programs also use the EBT cards. Currently, in most, if not all states, you cannot use them in liquor stores or bars. The idea that we would make it that easy for a person to use money that is coming from the federal government to spend on something that is in violation of federal law is crazy.

jaswim
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While I agree that pot is not any more dangerous than alcohol, the ideal that food stamps can be spent on any item other than food, including pot, alcohol, cigarettes, or whatever, is ludicrous. Does the Obama administration and the government in Colorado realize that some of these individuals are also parents that have hungry children at home? My nephew went without food, with the exception of lunch at school and something here and there, because of his mother’s meth addiction. I realize that meth is far more addictive and damaging than pot, but both cost money and take away… Read more »
HLJ
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Hon, Obamanation doesn’t care that it destroys lives. Actually, it’s the intent of he and those who control him to do just that – sedate us so we won’t fight back.

jaswim
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I agree with you on that! Take away our guns, which I know he is so in favor of, get us all stoned, and he won’t have much of fight on his hands.

aemoreira81
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Food stamps being spent on other than food is wrong. One can also argue that the foods that food stamps can buy be restricted so as to not fund an unhealthy lifestyle on the taxpayer dime. (An analogy to this is the WIC program in New York State.)

Tell ya what I think
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Allen B West – tell the whole truth. These EBT cars can be used in the same manner at any ATM. The proprietor of the shop has no control over what card is used the withdrawal cash. You are a fecal stain on the fabric of media.

thegreatamerican
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I’ll tell ya what I think. I think you’re a freaking Mo-Ron that is more than happy to take money from others. This is not what this program was intended for.

Barry Atwell
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Not true. In most, if not all states, you cannot access money on these cards in liquor stores or bars.

gtm615
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Barry is correct. I sell fruits and vegetables at a farmers market. There is one and only one stall in the market designed for withdrawing “money” from EBT cards in the form of wooden tokens. The customers then come to our fruit and vegetable booths and exchange the tokens for food or food producing products only. At no time are we, as vendors, allowed to give them cash or anything other than food in exchange for the tokens. If we do, we are denied future sales in the markets.

earldblwide
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Do the research, ‘mericans! The original source of this report? Al lists it as Fox. Wrong. It comes from The National Report. Have you read their disclaimer? Of course you havnt because you believe what Al and Rush and Sean feed you. Here it is: *DISCLAIMER: National Report is a news and political satire web publication, which may or may not use real names, often in semi-real or mostly fictitious ways. All news articles contained within National Report are fiction, and presumably fake news. Any resemblance to the truth is purely coincidental . The views expressed by writers on this… Read more »
Barry Atwell
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Here it is on Fox with photos of the signs at Pot Shops accepting EBT. Whether it is “food stamps” or cash benefits, they should not be able to access the benefits in pot stores, liquor stores, titty bars, or other places like those.

http://foxnewsinsider.com/2014/01/21/welfare-weed-colorado-allows-ebt-withdrawals-pot-shops

Paul Deckelman
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Hard-working taxpayers who are PAYING for all of these freebies being handed out should NOT be forced to subsidize the recreational drug/alcohol/tobacco use and/or other vices of these recipients! Tighter electronic controls on the use of these taxpayer-funded EBT food stamp/welfare cards including — yes — NO use to be allowed at any ATM machine or cash register located in a bar, a liquor store, a casino, a race track, a strip club, a massage parlor or a pot shop are needed. So is more vigilant enforcement (including undercover operations) to 1) jail anyone selling his/her food stamps for cash… Read more »
HLJ
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Sounds great in theory, but in reality, your steps won’t work.

Debra Wilson
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Well, whether it’s the EBT card for food or monthly cash benefits, who do you think is paying for them both? I’m am! You are! And I don’t think I feel like paying for someone else’s recreational pot!!! Does that make sense to you now @ those commentors who think there’s a difference of where the $$$ comes from?

Thomas Sharp
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Taking from one and giving to others is still theft.
If the one that has, deems it good to give to others that is charity.
Odd that politicians are always giving away other peoples money.

lddav@cox.net
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personally i think alcohole should be illegal….put all the drinkers IN JAIL!

HLJ
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IF only!

Ron
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Taxpayers for years have been paying for their beer and cigarettes. Why not pot also right? lol

Ron
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I support random and routine drug testing to qualify for any government money, including unemployment insurance. How about also including any government employee’s pay? Think about how much we would save in taxes?

thegreatamerican
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Their “benefits”? Pot money is now a “benefit”? This is crap. Some things should not be purchased with other people’s money.

Tom Davis
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Wear pajama’s, watch the superbowl, puff-puff-pass and talk abo……. dude, where’s my car?

HLJ
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I hope you are just being facetious. If not, then all I can say is that it’s attitudes such as these that have gotten this country into the mess it’s in. Put thine head in the sand, and pretend that nothing is wrong. Better yet, smoke a joint and you won’t even care if the house burns down around you.

Judgemental
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You’re a fool. Yes, ALL of the country’s problems are due to marajuana. Lol

HLJ
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Well, thank you very much. Have a nice day. But…uh…never said that!

Judgemental
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The original comment was regarding a stereotypical stoner’s life. Stoner smokes weed= the mess that this country is in, That’s what you indicated, tell me where I’m wrong…..

HLJ
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Ok, I think I got it now. Been off the board for awhile due to illness, so am catching up today. Forgot what I said. I WOULD be a fool if I thought that all of America’s problems are due to pot smokers. No, what I meant is that a good portion of American’s problems is due to so many of us, for decades, caring only about what’s right in front of us, while our nation implodes all around us. Had we (Americans) been paying attention to anything further than our own noses, long before this, the abomination that now… Read more »
Judgemental
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Lol, yes that clears it up. However, I respectfully disagree with Obama being an “O-bama-nation”. (My words lol) I can say that he has fallen short on many Americans’ expectations though, but I can’t imagine Mitt Romney in the White House right now or ever for that matter. I hope you’re feeling better soon 🙂

HLJ
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Once my dry, hacking cough is over, I’ll be very happy. Wearing me out, after weeks of bronchitis/sinus infection – it’s going around! I wasn’t happy with Romney either. We just haven’t had any decent candidates in a long time, who are brave enough to stand up against the powers that be in the WH. But frankly, I surely wouldn’t want the job. Obama didn’t fall short on my expectations. I expected exactly what he is delivering. And he isn’t done yet. Not by a long shot! However, I don’t think Romney would have done any better. I won’t vote… Read more »
Tom Davis
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Not to understate… yeah it was facetious – in the extreme. So cool your jets there sparky and point your “tolerance” at a real target.

HLJ
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Well, then. Facetious is good. I like your comment!

Guest
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This is complete bullshit.
You cannot buy cigarettes or alcohol with food-stamps…the rest of the deceitful story is fluff.

These people, are allotted a certain amount of money per month.
It doesn’t matter if they access that money at a pot-shop or a casino…absolutely irrelevant.

I am all for locking-down cash to food stamp recipients.
It should all be on a card.
But until we do, quit acting like this is a relevant battle.
It isn’t.

Judgemental
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Let me introduce you two, “Guest, Frank Discussion, Frank Discussion, Guest.”

Frank Discussion
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This article is complete bullshit.
You cannot buy cigarettes or alcohol with food-stamps…not now, or ever.
The cash that people can access at an ATM, is WELFARE.
Has nothing to do with the food-stamp program.

These people, are allotted a certain amount of money per month.
It doesn’t matter if they access that money at a pot-shop or a casino…absolutely irrelevant.

I am all for locking-down cash to welfare recipients.
It should all be on a card.
But until we do, quit acting like this is a relevant battle.
It isn’t.

HLJ
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The card cannot be used to purchase any drug – directly. Indirectly, using clever thinking, any addict can buy anything they like. Whether or not it is done directly is irrelevant. The fact that the loopholes are there is the issue. Fingerprinting at point-of-sale and drug testing prior to monthly allotments are a couple of things that would put a stop to many of these clever criminals being able to sell their card allotments to others who are also criminals.

JDNappers
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HLJ
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You are wrong, Frank Discussion. Read my post above. They can freely buy any drug with food stamps.

timsolady
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Sorry, you are wrong. The ONLY time you can use food stamps for anything other than food is when the store owner is on the take.

linjegu
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Anyone can use a food card if they know the password. So if someone sells theirs to someone else for cash that cash can be used to buy drugs. They’re way of getting around the system

Tread7
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Amen Allen West !

HLJ
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Crack, cocaine and anything else stupid people allow themselves to become addicted to can be bought with an EBT card, indirectly. No point reporting them. Those in charge of the system do NOTHING to stop it. They turn a blind eye. I recently met someone who is a serious cocaine/heroin addict. He sells his monthly EBT allotment for 50 cents on the dollar. He takes the cash he gets, gives the card to the person who gives him the cash, then buys his drugs. The cash provider takes the card and does with it, who knows what! He or she… Read more »
Judgemental
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To suggest that most Welfare recipients are trying to deceive the system, is ignorant and irresponsible. You have stereotyped those who are struggling with little or no income as drug addicts, schemers looking for loopholes, and lawbreakers! Maybe you’d like more families living on the street with their kids in tow, although I’m sure you live nowhere that you would have to actually pass by them. That’s the problem with most conservatives….out of touch with reality!

HLJ
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Puttin’ words in my mouth, Judgemental (liberal, apparently). Frankly, I have a daughter who needs her EBT card right now because her husband has gone down a path, from being a fully functional husband who supports his family, to one who can no longer do so at this point in time. She has two degrees, is working in her field, but she doesn’t make enough to feed her 2 boys. So, for now she needs help until she gets a full time job. She’s working in her field, and is waiting for an open full-time position to become available. So… Read more »
Phoebe
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Yes, this has been going on for a long time. A dental hygeinist who volunteers at a free dental clinic in the Denver area. She treats a lot of children. She got into a conversation with the mother of a child about the mother’s tattooed arms. She asked how much they cost. Over $1,000.00 !!! So, the child gets free dental work and the mom gets tattoos. I wonder what percentage of food stamps actually get used for food (not lobster)?

Alaric Viola
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I was on Welfare with my ex back when my son was born. We had it for a few months before we were able to get back on our feet after he was born. I can honestly say the amount of food stamps we got was ridiculous. We could have easily used just half. Now mind you, I’m half Asian and my ex if full. So we aren’t as big as some people. But still, twice as much as we needed, easy.

Phoebe
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I know people who really need it. It is the massive abuse that is contributing to immoral behavior and crushing our economy. This has been planned for many years. We should not have half of our country on welfare. We should not have shipped our industry overseas. We have been led astray and basically brainwashed. I am only recently aware. What can we do?

Judgemental
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I don’t think she can afford lobster because she spent all of her money on tattoos! =D

AnnaGraceS
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Progressives, where there are no boundaries, no moral standards, and the government — ultimately the American taxpayer — will pick up the tab.
I’m so glad I never moved to this progressive state. Run by a bunch of brain impaired idiots who is raising a bunch of weed smoking kids. The governor needs to be recalled and so does the progressive Congressmen… Weed leads to harder drugs period!! This is a backward state compared to Texas anyway… I hate that I have a daughter who lives there in the Rockies!!!

HLJ
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Pot is not the same as booze, of course, but both destroy. Boozers are far worse, in behavior. I have known a pothead or two in my long lifetime and it’s my observation that once a person becomes a serious pothead, they lose the ability to hold down a job for any length of time. They are laid back, and happy-happy, joy-joy. (What? Me worry?) The cares of this world fade away, as long as they are high. It’s an instant trip to La-La Land, most of the time. Potheads eventually lose their ability to concentrate well for any serious… Read more »
Judgemental
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Ok, so you’ve “known” one or two in your lifetime and you have ALL people who smoke weed stereotyped? Clearly you’ve been watching too many Cheech and Chong movies! Why don’t you speak up on something that is a far worse issue, like prescription drugs, heroin, meth or alcohol? People are wasting their time giving their “opinions” on those who choose to smoke weed? Show us the “statistics” on how “harmful” marajuana is to the public, rather than your outdated stereotypes.

Alaric Viola
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A couple pot heads isn’t really a lot. Hard to make a distinction based on that. Also, one has to consider who the person would be if they weren’t a pothead. Odds are, if they’re a loser, pot’s not the reason. Take away the pot and it would be something else for them, perhaps booze. I know several successful businessmen and professionals who smoke pot. I know several business owners who smoke pot. I know teachers, and cops, and doctors, and…. well you name it. You’d never know unless they wanted you to. So to base your belief on those… Read more »
HLJ
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You’re right. An addict is an addict, and they’ll always find something to be addicted to. However, as far as I’m concerned, if it destroys lives, no matter how few or how many, it’s a bad thing. Yes, many professionals use it, but that doesn’t make it good. I tried the stuff many years ago a couple of times. I was depressed after yet another life setback and someone told me it would cheer me up. I had a very weak moment! I tried it, like an idiot, but it gave me a new perspective of the stuff. I flat… Read more »
Judgemental
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Not everybody who chooses to smoke pot is an “addict”. If you had a bad experience from “trying” it a couple of times, ok, but for you to talk as if you have any concrete knowledge of what you’re talking about is insane. Do some research on marajuana and stop using you’re limited experience with it, make you think you’re “informed” on it. You stopped “trying” it because you saw the extreme danger? What would that danger be? And what does “it’s far worse from the bad stuff mean”? What’s the bad stuff? Last but not least, saying that pot… Read more »
Alaric Viola
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Actually, I believe there is no physical addiction with pot, only a psychological one. One can be psychologically addicted to love as well, causing codependency. So pot isn’t really addictive and therefore smoking it cannot cause someone to become an addict.

HLJ
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Listen, Mr.Judgemental! I DID just “try” it. I don’t smoke, so the trying part was very short. One of the person’s friends, who suggested I try it, said that there may have been something else added to it that caused it to have that kind of effect on me, or that my blood was very pure for it to do so. I don’t know. I’m not a user of anything, so your guess is as good as mine. I tell you the absolute truth, and your implication that I am not is insulting. But then, most forums have that from… Read more »
Alaric Viola
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Ah. So you knew it was unusual to be effected for 2 days and your friend had already told you in the past that it might have been laced. (If your statement is true, I guarantee it was laced, which wouldn’t have happened had you been able to buy it at the corner store like beer or cig.s.) 😉 So really, your statements have been a bit of propaganda.

HLJ
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Not propaganda. Just absent-minded old woman. I forgot about that until you and I began to converse. It’s been some 30 years since then – when I was young and a little more of an idiot than I am now.

Judgemental
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I’m not a Mr., you can’t tell from my pic, but my tail isn’t in the front it’s in the back :() And you’re getting way to upset about what a little monkey is saying in her comments.

HLJ
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Uh, okay, then. So monkeys now converse intelligently?

Alaric Viola
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I own my own business. My lowest paid employees make $10 an hour, in Texas. I built my business from the ground floor up and have a stellar rep, especially in my field. I smoke……….. I haven’t been negatively effected. I have become more creative though, and not just in art or whatnot, but in strategically thinking outside the box to either catch up to or surpass my competition.

HLJ
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It appears it’s worked well for you. I also know a guy who used to smoke it, and when he didn’t he was hard to be around. Very hyper, very Type A personality, and loud! Boy is he loud! Being around him makes most others nervous, when he’s not smoking pot. It calms him down to a dull roar. So I see the value, here and there. I have also heard from creative people, that it helps them to be more creative. (I wonder why that is.) The answer to that thought isn’t something I’ll spend time thinking on, though.… Read more »
Alaric Viola
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Yeah. Perhaps if he could have gotten it at the corner store like he might beer or cigs,, he may have never been introduced to that environment of hard drugs.

HLJ
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Maybe. Who knows. I just didn’t like it at all. I guess some of us don’t and some of us do. To each his own. I just don’t want to pay taxes, only to have them go to funding that stuff. But how the heck do we stop the gov’ment from letting that happen? No idea!!!

Phoebe
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The elites want us not to care or notice that they are destroying our country.

derpa
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you idiots do realize this was based upon a satirical website known as the national report? get your information from more credible sources, jesus….

MotherBatherick
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Clearly the effects of obama having been a doper are reflected in his attitude, behavior and decision-making. As for the Lib-Dems who support him, misery loves company..

Judgemental
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Clearly your mind has been clouded by something too. If it were left to the Conservatives. People would be able to use their welfare money on guns!

1janicebeaty5
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I am in favor of legalizing POT but not in favor of buying it with EBT cards using my tax dollars. If you are using it for medicinal purposes it should be covered under your health/med insurance. Otherwise buy it yourself, I feel most people are getting HANDOUTS not help out.

marilyn
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Allan West is a duchebag. EBT has a cash and food stamp part. You can go to any ATM and get cash if you get a monthly cash allotment. Implying that the FOOD STAMPS are paying for the pot is an outright lie!!!!!!!!!! Very few people that get the food stamp part, also get the cash part. There is a reason Allan West gt thrown out of the military, and is no longer in government. He is a liar.

MotherBatherick
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Your love for food stamps and cash has gotten the better of you, if you had a better side.

JDNappers
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He didn’t get thrown out of the military.

And I think you’ve missed the point. The point is that ANY pot being bought with a publicly funded EBT card is something that cannot be allowed. Whether it’s SNAP or TANF is immaterial. No one should be able to purchase drugs or alcohol with our tax dollars.

rizzie
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But it IS material. These are 2 different programs. The title and article claim is about food stamps, not cash assistance. Even if the pot dispensary ATMs are calibrated to not accept the EBT card, a cash assistance recipient could easily get their cash at another ATM then go buy pot – or alcohol. How could they be stopped from doing so?

cantomagica
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They obviously can’t be stopped from getting cash at an ATM, or through other avenues, but making it legal is an assault on the entire system. The cash assistance welfare recipients receive is supposed to be used to keep a roof over your head and pay the bills…not to buy drugs with. There are many hard working American’s out there who pay a boat load of taxes per year who are strugglinig to keep their homes and to keep their children fed. They can’t afford to buy weed if they wanted to, so why should people living off the government… Read more »
Judgemental
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Right, because everybody who smokes pot is “stoned”? Get rid of your outdated stereotype of pot smokers, and read the comment from “Car ly hat field”, above. So is everybody who drinks alcohol drunk, while driving their cars and killing people? And everybody who drinks neglects their bills, and children because they’ve spent all of their welfare money on booze? What about those who spend it on prostitutes, tattoos, strippers and unhealthy fast food? Where do you draw the line? (That’s rhetorical) And what about those with legal prescriptions but are “illegally” abusing or selling their meds? If you’re going… Read more »
Matthew Herschede
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Then, to me, the response to that is to disallow cash withdraws from an EBT card entirely. Saying “don’t regulate the usage of an ATM card in a pot store because if you do, folks could just go use a different ATM to get the cash to buy pot” is kinda an odd argument.

rizzie
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It isn’t odd to point out the futility of regulating usage location.
Removing the cash account on the EBT card would resolve the ATM issue entirely and would save a whole lot of confusion for those who don’t understand the EBT card is currently dual-purpose. EBT does not equal food stamps as the article pointedly infers.
It IS odd, however, that so many conservative sites picked up a story from a satire site and ran it as fact.

MotherBatherick
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obama’s dopehead supporters aren’t liking this one.

HLJ
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I think those who are splitting hairs over whether one can buy pot directly with an EBT, or indirectly, by finding ways to sell their benefits for cash, are probably those who are using the EBT card and who feel defensive about it. They are probably also the ones who are NOT misusing the card, and who are truly in need. I, for one, am not referring to anyone who is truly in need and has to use an EBT card to feed their families. Instead, reference is made to those who live in a welfare mentality, taking advantage of… Read more »
car ly hat field
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Hi. Im a twenty something year old who smokes weed daily. I am a college graduate, I have a full time job and I receive no government assistance. No I’m not one in a thousand. Most people I know who smoke weed are the same as me, young, hardworking, and more put together than the others who choose to go out and get belligerently drunk on weekends. I also believe using money the govt gives you on ANY drug is wrong. I’m sure most people agree with that. But for those of you who feel the need to stereo type… Read more »
Politically Constipated
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“He even went so far as to remind us of his own drug use (a disqualifier for Top Secret security clearance, by the way)”

That’s why he has to find out about things like Benghazi, NSA and the IRS through media outlets like the rest of us without Top Secret Clearance!

Politically Constipated
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Liberal Political Philosophy: Inversion of Law – If you are law abiding, you get punished. If you circumvent the law, you get rewarded.
ATMization of the food stamp: Worst thing ever! At what point do “we the people” get to indict politicians who advocate for the defrauding of the American people?

Judgemental
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“Indict the politicians who advocate for defrauding the American people”, you ask? If that were the case, we would have NO politicians at all.