Video: Military buckles over nativity scene at Gitmo

Just when you thought we could get through this season of love and giving unscathed, some folks have succeeded in getting the nativity scenes taken down at the Gitmo dining facility.

As Bizpac Review reported regarding a segment that appeared on “The O’Reilly Factor,” Mikey Weinstein, founder of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation (how’s that for an oxymoronic title) represented a group of people on the base who complained about the displays and succeeded in having them removed by order of the Commanding Officer there.

The US military in which I served would have told someone like Weinstein to simply go “pound sand.” Furthermore, I cannot imagine soldiers who would have gone to some outside civilian special interest group to complain about a nativity scene — complain about bad chow perhaps, but not this.

According to Weinstein, his organization acted on behalf of 18 complainants, including 11 Catholics and other Christians, who viewed the nativity scenes as “a violation of their civil rights.”

O’Reilly pointed out that Christmas is a federal holiday and the nativity scene is merely a depiction of what happened on the first Christmas. “It’s not like you’re making anyone at Guantanamo Bay pray or go to church,” he said. “It’s a depiction of a federal holiday.”

You can watch their testy exchange below.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDVOXUtBqYY

I find it unconscionable that Christians would complain about a nativity scene in the chow hall. If I were the Commander, I would have told these individuals, “Since you feel offended by the representation of Christmas in the chow hall, I will allow you to enter through the back kitchen area and receive a take-out plate during chow hours for the duration of the time the nativity scene is displayed. You feel free to tell Mr. Weinstein he can engage in copious amounts of strenuous self-gratification and have a good day. And don’t pretend to tell me how to run anything on this base.”

But I want to make sure you know exactly how dangerous this Mr. Weinstein truly is. He has referred to individuals who profess their faith as committing acts of sedition. He has taken it upon himself to attack any religious symbols or references in the US military — and recently had the words “under God” removed from the US Air Force Academy honor oath – from where he graduated, by the way.

He has anointed himself as some provocateur of ensuring there is “separation of church and state,” when his actual objective is the elimination of America’s Judeo-Christian faith heritage and its connection to military service.

What is ultimately disturbing is that the Obama administration’s Department of Defense has provided this vile, delusional individual access to the Pentagon and allowed him to infiltrate its decision-making process. Weinstein is a contributing player in our Slouching Towards Gomorrah as Robert Bork detailed in his 1996 book. We really need to bring back some Pattons, MacArthurs, Halseys and Pullers — leaders, most certainly Commanders, who with just a stare could settle a matter.

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Richard De Cora
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It’s disgusting! I have seen religious symbols removed just because of one person’s objection. We do need to take a stand or all will be lost. Ask an anti-Christian person why they are anti-Christian, and most of the time, they can’t give you a decent answer!

heilbama
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I’d rather be hated for loving Jesus than loved for not believing He is our Savior.

Ray Salchow
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Why would we believe him when he just supplies numbers and not names? 11 Catholics and other Christians rights being violated? I don’t buy it. No Muslims? Come on give me a break. I think it was just him that wanted it removed.

postman11
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the guy is aphony just like obommmme

ruth berry
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So why not cancel Christmas? If its about the birth of Christ and you don’t want to do that, then cancel it.

Penni Price-Lindsey
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Weinstein doesn’t make one bit of sense. Why would any Christian object to the nativity scene? The claim of objection under anonymity is a load of crap…his org. did it.

Corey Kurisu
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Good point, if a person is a Christian and believes in Christ, what is there to offend them?

David
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I agree with Bill. This Gentleman is just a weasel. He made absolutely no bit of sense. Doesn’t the US military have bigger fish to fry? Weinstein should be fired.

Corey Kurisu
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I love his statement about “Christian privilege”. Really? Christianity is under attack. According to the courts Muslims are allowed to pray at school but Christians are not. It is legal for a Muslim taxi driver to strand you if you happen to have pork or alcohol in your packages, but Christians must acknowledge and conform to other beliefs. We have the freedom of religion not the omission of it. I believe everyone has a right to believe what they wish. However, they should not have the power to deny that to another. I would understand if this were from someone… Read more »
heilbama
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Why does the faith of another reduce the rights I once enjoyed? I know I’ve had less and less since that Muslim stole the White House. He’s made fun of the Bible but calls the Koran ‘holy’? He deceived you, America, by going to a Christian church before his first election. Hasn’t darkened the doors of one since, but removes his shoes & kneels on a rug to pray in a mosque. Again, why aren’t Christians equal to Muslims in this convoluted new America?

Corey Kurisu
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I agree with you that Obama does favor Islam. However, I still support the right of everyone to worship freely. We must respect each other while maintaining the rights of all to worship or not according to each persons beliefs. I still stand by my statement that our best course is to preserve our faiths in the face of opposition calmly with resolve. To sink to hatred, anger or violence means diminishing our faith and granting victory to our opponents. It is hard I know, but as Jesus would do, we should take the high road no matter the cost.
heilbama
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I support the right of every person to worship as they choose or to embrace the Big Bang theory. My son is friends with a Muslim man, thinks the world of him. Obama denied his faith and feigned another; I can’t respect that.

Donald H Sullivan
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The only thing we can do is to amend the constitution to make Judeo-Christianity our national religion.

Corey Kurisu
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I wouldn’t do that, as most people are quite reasonable if you give them breathing room. I just did some studying on the MRFF and Weinstein. He is an activist anti-Christian. While there is documentation that he did suffer hatred and discrimination, it is inconclusive if this started his activism or resulted from it. The MRFF is not about religious freedom but purging any practical exposure of Christianity to anyone in uniform whether Christian or not. There is an interesting trend though, he claims 90% or more of complainants are Christians but refuses to give names or incidents. Sounds like… Read more »
Kathy
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You nailed it! What a fantastic comment, Thank You!

cstrenio7
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The anti- christian has a president that don’t believe in Christ. And now they are taking advantage of it. I don’t think it was the Christian Mititary people. It is our government and if there is 18 that had something to say about it why don’t they be known. Sound coward to me. And a Muslim President. Christian please take action on your prayers.before we are in slaved be the Muslims.

Donald H Sullivan
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The only thing we can do is to amend the constitution making Judeo-Christianity our official religion.

heilbama
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No, we can’t do that and still be America. What we need is for people who are believers to start attending church, start reading their Bibles. The majority would be Christians – and some would come out as strong as Phil Robertson.

J L Gill
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No Donald we don’t want congress fooling with the constitution.Just take a step back and look how they have mess up everything they put their hands on

catdog8
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i can not believe that christians complained about a nativity. you know what they say, if it doesn’t make sense it isn’t true!

Donald H Sullivan
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Christians complaining about nativity displays would be like Muslims complaining about the call to prayer.

Constitution
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Separation of church and state. Christian conservatives tend to ignore that inconvenient fact.

heilbama
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Shall we tear down all the crosses & Stars of David in Arlington Cemetery?

jerrynAtl
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“Separation of church and state” means nothing of what you think it means.

David Clark
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Freedom OF religion. Not freedom FROM religion.

Corey Kurisu
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The Constitution does not separate religion from state as our founding fathers understood that it is integral with the thoughts of the person. What it does say is that Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof. That does not exclude one from practicing their faith, but it does allow for those of different beliefs to have equality to worship and access government. Our founding fathers represented many different faces of Christianity and three were deists a belief that believes in God but not the Bible as it is written. Stop trying… Read more »
JimTheManWithin
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@Constitution, In keeping with the “separation of church & state” would you be willing to turn down your double-time pay for working on Christmas day if you were a government employee or would that be inconvenient for you? After all It is a national holiday.

Donald H Sullivan
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Where in the constitution does it say anything about separation of church and state?

Sherill Weber
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Read this & especially the 3rd paragraph. “Separation of church and state” (sometimes “wall of separation between church and state”) is a phrase used by Thomas Jefferson and others expressing an understanding of the intent and function of the Establishment Clause and Free Exercise Clause of the First Amendment to the Constitution of the United States. The phrase has since been repeatedly used by the Supreme Court of the United States. The First Amendment to the United States Constitution provides that “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof ….” and Article… Read more »
Sherill Weber
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Merry Christmas David!!!!

Steve Downs
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I saw that clip on The O’Reilly Factor and I didn’t find Mikey Weinstein believable. I don’t think he has more than 1 or 2 disgruntled service members, if even that. His behavior on O’Reilly’s show was detestable. He didn’t answer a single question and rambled on and on. When O’Reilly asked for ‘just one’ service member to come forward to explain his/her problems with the creche, he didn’t even offer to ask any of the supposed “18 service members.” O’Reilly had to cut his microphone for only the 2nd time in his 17 years hosting the Factor. I agree… Read more »
Donya Burnitt Singletary
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Donya Burnitt Singletary

I pray for Mr Weinstein, what he is doing is so wrong that there are not enough words to describe it. Only God can help him and it will take God to forgive all that he has done to those around him in his desire to remove all traces of God from the military and our country.

Guest
Guest

JESUS IS LORD<KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS if the guy cant have anyone anyone come forward his a fraud just like obammmme

jesus

Wells Farr
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That’s bulls&6_Mikey. The military forces everybody to celebrate all kinds of crazy stuff all the time.

Bill Storm
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What ever happened to MAJORITY RULES. 18 complaints so they take it down? How many complained about the nativity scene being taking down. What happened to IN GOD WE TRUST, GOD BLESS THE UNITED STATES?

Brad
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Yea majority rules is good enough for the dems in the senate, oh wait that is because they are the liberal elite that are so much wiser and more intelligent than you or I could ever hope to be.

Sherill Weber
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Didn’t you know,,,,soon they’ll reword that to read,,,IN (Blank) WE TRUST, (Blank) BLESS THE UNITED STATES.

Sherill Weber
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He said 11 Catholics and some Christians complained that their rights were being violated??? I can understand the other non-believers BUT Catholics and Christians. That is a hard bite to believe. We Christians don’t own Christmas??? What the H…!!! They don’t believe in Christmas so because they don’t believe we aren’t suppose to celebrate in our beliefs because they feel we own it. Something is just not right in that thinking. I think every Christian should put up a lighted cross in your yard and if you live in a condo or apartment,,,in your window. You non-believers are just a… Read more »
Chrissy the Hyphenated
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Chrissy the Hyphenated

You gotta wonder if he made them up.

Sherill Weber
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I bet he did just to get his way for those few who complained.

postman11
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JESUS IS LORD, KING OF KINGS ,AND LORD OF LORDS,if the guy cant have anyone speakout then hes just a fraud like obammmme

Rick Ferguson
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I don’t understand, by it just being there, it is not forcing anyone to participate in anything. It is just there. If it offends someone just by seeing it, oh well, you have no right to not be offended. There is no constitutional right to protect your delicate sense of… I don’t like looking at or hearing or I disagree with what is being said, so it cant exist, it must be removed. I am so sick of hearing from the left liberals that they are so tolerant and accepting, when in fact the only thing they are tolerant of… Read more »
AniBelini
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They’re fascists at heart, whether they know it or not. I’d bet many of them don’t even know what that means.

Donald H Sullivan
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This is just one more good reason to amend the constitution to make Judeo-Christianity the official national religion. That’s the only way we can stop this politically correct BS.

jerrynAtl
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No such thing as Judeo-Christian….Jews HATE Christ! Mr. Weinstein is a JEW…put the pieces of the puzzle together and you will see. Who do you think the ACLU is? It is JEWISH lawyers…they are the ones that have taken prayers out of schools…nativity scenes of the government lawns….now our children have “holiday breaks” “holiday parties” “holiday trees”…THEY are the ones doing it.

Paul V.
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So what about us who AREN’T offended? Don’t we get to have a say?

Chrissy the Hyphenated
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Chrissy the Hyphenated

And those of us who are offended by the REMOVAL of the thing!

Jackie Bush
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I saw this and I clapped and cheered O’Rielly for putting Mikey Whiner, I mean, Weinstein in his place! LOL!

Nadine Faber
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I agree, they are cowards. This is an attempt to continue taking GOD out of the military and make the government God by taking care of us (health care, food, housing…) We don’t want that and I have a feeling God will stop this method of stripping away hope, peace, compassion … which all comes from the “heart” created by God…. God expects us to use our talents and gifts to be self-reliance, not dependent on others to meet our needs if we can do them ourselves….responsibility for ourselves and consequences of our actions and will use his people along… Read more »
Sal
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weinstein lis a lying cocksucker like his boss, and trying to destrot this country, and the 18 or cowards!

Jan
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BULLSHIT…obama wanted it taken down and the incarcerated muslim terrorists in Gitmo maybe but not Catholics and Protestants….They should lock this weinstein bastard in a cell at Gitmo.

SYG
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I keep telling you . . . it’s these Uber-Generals who are worried about their big pension checks. They know one thing . . .kill the foreign enemy, that’s it. Put a popular political dilemma in front of them and they cave in without a blink. They are about as loyal to the cause of freedom in the United States as Bill Ayers. The more we give-in to these pseudo righteous worms, the more that crawl out of the wood work. I wonder how General Patten would handle all this Political Correctness pressure from the left? Nah . .never mind.… Read more »
Runningbear
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SEMIFI!

Jan
Guest

Then stop celebrating Ramadan and the muslim holidays. obama lets these bastards come to OUR WHITE HOUSE and celebrate this UNCHRISTIAN holiday with his muslim ass.

DocThomas
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Am i missing something? He said that the complainers were Christians. Why the hell are they mad about a christian display then? What a spin-fuck he is.

Kevin D'Arcy
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We make certain that the Muslim prisoners at Gitmo are given Korans and prayer rugs, but the Christian soldiers must shut the hell up and express no outward signs of their faith, lest they offend someone. In the West we live in a world turned upside down.

Philip Millard
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Hey Fuckwad, tell me to take down my display, it has both military and religious symbols in it. Come on you pole smoking pinko POS. Stop by, I’ll show you how a size 11 feels going up your worthless ass.

schnarfster
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What does anyone really expect when Obama replaces all the military brass with people who agree with him?

Steve Nichols
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Let’s take God out off everything. THIS COUNTRY WAS FOUNDED ON GOD. THIS COUNTRY IS MESSED UP.

J L Gill
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In ww2 I was on a carrier.Every morning our Champlian would say about a2 min pray over the PA.The pilots and crew before they took off they knelt and pray.They weren’t made to do it they wanted to.And something else we did not lose a man or one hurt.Before the ship was sank

Paula McMinn
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I believe the man is lying. I don’t believe any Christian, true Christian would ever find a nativity scene objective, and certainly no true Catholics would either. Either they lied to him or his organization or he is lying to the military and to us.

Ray Herron
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Paula, there are Christians who are also objecting to the Christmas celebration, calling it a pagan holiday so I can believe that Mikey did find someone at the base to help him browbeat the brass there.

Kevis
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They aren’t true Christians then. The pagan aspect of Christmas is the tree, Santa Claus. Nativity scene is the Christian part.

Gracie
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I don’t know any Christians who are OBJECTING to Christmas because it is a pagan holiday, but the actual day December 25th and most of our Christmas traditions come from pagan roots. I am one who will point that out whenever someone starts whining that we are taking Christ out of Christmas, it should NEVER be Happy Holidays, etc. We cannot force people to celebrate the birth of a Savior they don’t believe in, and it will not help our efforts to show them the love of Christ if we argue and argue that they are stealing our holiday when… Read more »
Runningbear
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Then they weren’t Christians or Catholics! Like Obama you can claim your something when your actions prove you different! IT’s a lie!

Chrissy the Hyphenated
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Chrissy the Hyphenated

Just read a short section of comments. It does not appear the Posting Policy is very well enforced. Either that or the monitor is behind on things.

Wayne Williams
Guest

So the very act of SEEING something violates your rights? May I introduce you to my forks, so they can pry your eyeballs out, and my duct tape, you close your mouth with?

MARKO
Guest

YES SIR, LEADERS NOT MANAGERS.CALLING A WEINSTEIN A PUTZ DOES NOT REALLY COVER IT…MORE LIKE A SOILED DOUCHE BAG..

HairRazor
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Mikey Whinneystein is Obama’s anti-Christian commando.

jerrynAtl
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If you will try to understand WHY he is doing this…it is the SAME reason all those like him are doing it…Mr. Weinstein is a JEW….THEY HATE CHRIST! When all you understand this you will see that “they” are the ones taking ALL you religious freedoms away! Why is it that they can put up a FORTY FOOT Minora on the White House lawn and Christians can’t even put up a simple Nativity Scene there or any other government land!?

Johanna Roberts
Guest

YOU sir are wrong ! Wrong! WRONG! All Jews do not hate Jesus and they definitely are NOT the ones taking away religious freedoms. Use your brain for atleast a few seconds, You sound as assinine as weasel.

jerrynAtl
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I guess you are right Johanna Roberts…maybe 1 out of 1000 don’t hate Jesus. Any yes Johanna, they are the VERY ones that are taking our rights as Christians away. Who do you think runs the ADL? ALL JEWISH LAWERS!

jerrynAtl
Guest

OK Ms. Roberts…should I had said MOST JEWS and ALL ZIONIST are the ones taking away our Christian heritage and freedoms here in America and other parts of the world? You madam are the one that needs to wake up and smell the coffee. You madam are the one that needs to use that brain that God has given you for a few seconds.

Phoebe
Guest

Maybe we should not generalize so much. Neil Diamond and Ed Ames recorded Christmas Carols. My Jewish friend likes to help me decorate my Chritmas tree.

jerrynAtl
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I do apologize Ms Roberts…I should not had stereotyped ALL Jews…let’s just say the majority of them are Christ Haters! And YOU are wrong…they ARE the very ones that are taking those freedoms away. You madam are the one that needs to wake up and smell the coffee. I do suggest you might like to read a good book by the name Zionism – The Real Enemy of the Jews (by Alan Hart) It is an excellent book written by someone that actually likes Jews. He was a personal friend of Golda Mier. It will open your eyes to the… Read more »
JR Rosen
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I’m terribly sorry! The military has had these Nativity Scenes going for years. Why is this “all of the sudden” a problem? Is it because some people can finally get their 15 minutes of fame by jumping on the “Bash Christmas” bandwagon”? THIS IS RIDICULOUS! We Christians need to stand-up for our rights… those rights that built this country, the rights that allow us to have God and Christ Jesus in our lives and in-front of us whenever we want them there. We are not the one’s who need to hide in the closets with our Bibles! Our entire nation… Read more »
momgodin
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Mikey said “Christian PRIVILEGE has never been challenged in the past…” They believe they are creating equality by irradicating evidence of Christian contributions to the American culture. Obviously, newcomers have contributed LESS. That’s not equal DUH. 😛 They rewrite history. Wasn’t it funny when Obama referred to the great contributions of Muslims to this country? Lol. I guess he meant his book.

Ray Salchow
Guest

The same reason some moron takes the mention of Jesus out of Silent Night for the Christmas show. The song was written about Jesus and nobody else.

George W Dodson
Guest

Amen!

Burt Murphy
Guest

This dude needs to be bitch slapped.

Dave
Guest

I have grown so tired of religious intolerance against Christians. THAT IS WHY WE CAME HERE DURING THE 17TH CENTURY IN THE FIRST PLACE!!! I WILL defend my right to express my faith in any way I see fit! I will defend my right to do so with the second amendment as well as the fourth amendment. In short… if you poke a bear with a stick, you’re going to get the claws!!!

RoadRipper
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18 VS thousands. I say that the 18 need to shut up or cry a river.

Jactelit2
Guest

Bill O’reilly said it all and I can only repeat. “This douche bag is a weasel” I’ll just add; PERIOD!!!

David Oberhauser
Guest

Please can we all get a reality check? The 18 were not Christians. They were probably

Atheists or Muslims.
Bill? I watch your show whenever I can.

Runningbear
Guest

Theres no way that any Catholic or a Christian would even do this and this is an out right LIE!Now if he would have claimed 18 athiests and 12 muslims would believe him but this is a lie!

CrazieGracie8
Guest

Exactly my thoughts too!

Remando Echovarde
Guest

Problem is that all the people who are reading this are thinking the same thing… pick out whatever descriptive adjective you want to for Whinestein. But, still incredible that something like this would occur… yes, we need to have some real leadership in the military rather than people who do whatever to preserve a career.

GibbyD
Guest

it has to start at the top . This disgraceful action is because of Obama . Once Obama is gone and a Mike Huckabee or any other Godly man is president , then we will not be having these attacks to religious liberty and our constitution .

Iowa48
Guest

I seriously doubt that any serving military service member would actually complain to a putz like Weinsteirn regarding a nativity scene in a chow hall. The military I served in is the most tolerant, diverse, and respectful of any institution in the USA. I think it much more likely that it was probably the lawyers from Eric Holder’s law firm, Covington & Burling, which is on retainer for AlQaeda, that saw the nativity scene and complained.

GibbyD
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Weinstein is lying !!! It will take our individual fighting men uniting and saying , “we are not going to take it anymore. Either we allow God in our ranks so that we can continue to see victories and be blessed , OR WE WILL NOT RE-ENLIST or serve ” . American young men will say , ” Religious liberty and Freedom or we will not even join . How can you expect God to protect us and give victory when we exclude HIM “.

Walter Embry
Guest

well i served in military for over 20 years and this guy has wrong job needs to be fired him and sectary of defence are bums who work for obama and obama hates christains and we all know it why do you think he wants cut retirment pay and medical and even comissiary away from soliders but people like this bum get big money and never put his life on line i’m with you bill hes a bum

irish7_1sg
Guest

As a Army leader for several decades, maybe I was just lucky. Or, perhaps I was actually protected by Divine Powers. Either way, I was BLESSED to have never been reprimanded for the countless times that I mentioned God, quoted the Bible or lectured Judeo/Christian values to my subordinates. It is probably a good thing that I retired before this Marxist Moslem Administration FORCED THEIR HEATHEN WAYS on the US military.

Fed Up
Guest

Weinstein is probably a Talmudist which most likely the goals of the ACLU and SPLC. The attacks of Christianity is coming from many different directions. Hollywood is a prime example and is TV. We all know what group primarily owns it. So we have that and our Jihadist POTUS, Obama the illegitimate.