We still have it too good to care

Workforce participation rate is at an all time low, 47 million Americans rely on Food Stamps for their daily bread (and two-thirds of Americans are getting plenty, because they’re either overweight or obese), millions of Americans are losing their health insurance and millions more have simply stopped looking for employment.

Yet I know this is still the greatest nation on Earth because in California, people have time to really, really worry about the habitat of the delta smelt. So much so, that conservationists have been willing to shut off the water supply to some of the state’s most fertile farmland. Nearly a million acres are going unplanted. Unemployment is up to 35 percent in some areas, and farmers are losing over a billion dollars in revenue — but that’s ok! The habitat of the little delta smelt is preserved.

Obviously, if we really had it bad in America, we’d have to worry about more important things, like the collapse of the black family in the inner city, or the danger of Islamic terrorists slipping into our country. But we’ve got better things to worry about!

In his column this week, George Will described a few of the crazy things Americans have made it their business to focus on.

For example, on September 17th, Constitution Day, a student at Modesto Junior College was told to stop distributing copies of the Constitution until he had filled out the requisite forms for permission to use the college’s designated “free speech area.”

The Metropolitan Area Transit Authority threatened a Henry Docter with “arrest, fines and imprisonment” for the crime of unregulated gardening. Docter had filled 176 empty planters at the Dupont Circle Metro stop. The Transit Authority was briefly deterred by the public outcry against its threat to punish Docter. But then it had the 1,000 plants ripped out.

A video being used by the Department of Agriculture for “cultural sensitivity training” instructs employees to call the Pilgrims who created Thanksgiving “illegal aliens” – even though there were no immigration laws to make any of them illegal.

Isn’t this an awesome country? Some media pundits complain about the “low information voter.” But we have too many voters with too much information about all the wrong things.

When your belly is full, you have a roof over your head and 500 movies on demand, you have plenty of time to get worked up about what really matters: delta smelts and Miley Cyrus.

I don’t wish ill on my countrymen and women, but I sometimes wonder how bad it’s going to have to get before they wake up and pay attention to what really matters.

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Jack
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My sentiments exactly!!

jccargill
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They’re welcome to come to Chicago when the smelt are running in lake Michigan, they still pull them out by the bucketful from the very seawalls.

Libtardharvestor
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My supervisor where I used to work in Milwaukee and I took at least 20 or so 5 gallon pails of smelt every year. The way they breed makes me think they’re BORN pregnant!

rebel yell
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Sounds like they breed like Obama voters.

Keith Davidson
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I read an article over 6 months ago that said the whole thing about the Delta Smelt was fabricated as an excuse to punish farmers in those areas because the vast majority do not support Obama. Just sayin’.

Jo
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Sounds EXACTLY like something the EPA would do! The IRS has done it, why not the EPA? I think you hit the nail on the head!

Glen Saunders
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Are you sure California knows what a smelt is? Remember Pelosi is from that neck of the woods.

drikk
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Probably means that they’ve finished smelling.

Libtardharvestor
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Good point!

Pete
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@ Allen West, I’d love to share some of these but like it or not I cannot share insulting pictures of our President. I can disagree with him, chose to vote for others, try and legally change leadership but he is still our President and I will do everything in my power to protect him and his office from disgrace even if his party and team work to disgrace it. So let’s try and keep it professional Never lower your “self” to their level or you are no better than they are!

willie
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Pete, I, too, have a great respect for the “Office of the President.” However, we have no president. The elections were bought and paid for by Liberal Extremists of great wealth and no conscience. Obama was vetted by those who are blind, deaf, and dumb liberal puppets of the wealthy elites; we still don’t really know who he is unless we have actually researched his past and birth, which I have. Just by observation, he is a Muslim trying to drive the United States into poverty and chaos by dividing us with disputes over trivial crap, and then bring us… Read more »
marylou
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When a president destroys your country, you impeach him!

stubbikins
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Stock market up, jobs rebounding, housing market up, violent crime rates down, umber of wars down…. If he is trying to destroy the country he is failing.

marylou
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And where are you getting all that erroneous information..?
J Carney briefings and Obama telling you more lies!

stubbikins
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Prove a single thing I said is a lie.

marylou
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Have you been to a food pantry lately? They can’t keep up with the need? Have you been to a food kitchen and fed the hungry? The lines grow longer and the people are not the homeless. Have you waited in a super market line lately and seen how every other person has a food stamp card? The foreclosures continue at a slower pace…only because Obama threw tax payer money at it. The jobs may be up in Texas because they have a R governor, not because of Obama….states with R governors are recovering….not so blue states. Ask the white… Read more »
stubbikins
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In other words, no, you can’t refute any of the facts I stated. (You do know there are 49 states that are not Texas don’t you?)

Here are the facts again: Stock market up, jobs rebounding, housing market up, violent crime rates down, number of wars down.

marylou
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NOTED: You didn’t answer any of my questions!
I have to conclude by that fact that you sit at your computer
and live in the world of fantasy unreality.
You need to get out and about and observe the real world!

stubbikins
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“Ask the white victims of the Black Knock Out game, if violent crime is down?” So if there is a single incident of violence it means crime rates have not decreased?!?! really? You think that is how it works? “Have you been to a food pantry lately? They can’t keep up with the need?” It is winter. Did you know that it gets cold in the winter and people have to put money towards heating costs instead of food? Did you also know that this has NOTHING WHATSOEVER TO DO WITH THE FACTS I STATED. “Have you waited in a… Read more »
marylou
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You are too busy money grubbing and selling houses in CA to have any awareness except of self. RE Markets have NOT rebounded across the country..despite your arrogant pronouncement! You are a true liberal..obsessed with self! You are truly clueless!! You pretend to be intelligent and knowledgeable but you pitch out innocuous one liners that mean nothing…..or disingenuously manipulate/skew comments to hide your ignorance. You are the pit of negativity and are too judgmental to be even marginally tolerated! I notice people paying with food cards NOT because I DISAPPROVE but because I believe in “PAY KINDNESS FORWARD” . If… Read more »
stubbikins
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I am going to post this one twice… because you lied with something so easily verifiable.

“try to convince me that when over 60% of america lives on food stamps that the economy is up”

“Around 14.3% of the nation is on SNAP — roughly 1 in 7 Americans”

http://www.businessinsider.com/americans-really-overestimate-the-percent-of-people-on-food-stamps-2013-10

stubbikins
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“You are too busy money grubbing and selling houses in CA to have any awareness except of self. ” I am a realtor in the deep South, never sold real estate in CA, though they are a good indicator for the rest of the country since they are a large part of the population. “Of course not….you do a lot of pontificating and spewing but to solely toot your own horn and obama’s, but never to try to correct societies problems that were created by obama and you obamabot trolls!” The economy crashed before he was elected. I have not… Read more »
marylou
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blah

stubbikins
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So you admit you lied? Thanks!

marylou
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stubbikins
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So by posting random non comments you want to bring attention to the lies you tell?

stubbikins
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Why would I change the subject to answer your made up questions when I am simply waiting for you to prove that a single thing I said was a lie. You said they are lies, you have not addressed a single thing I said, you just keep trying to change the subject. Stock market up – Yup, it is. By a lot. jobs rebounding – not as fast as we would like due to the sequester, but steadily trending upwards for years now. housing market up – I am a realtor, prices are way up and inventory is flying violent… Read more »
marylou
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Go away, please…you have become redundant, repetitive and ridiculous and reverted to boring nonsense.

OBAMA LIED ABOUT THE ECONOMY, THE
UNEMPLOYMENT RATE, THE IRS, OBAMACARE, THE DRONES, FAST an FURIOUS, BENGHAZI, MILLIONS OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS TO MUSLIMS TO BUILD AND REPAIR MOSQUES AND AL-QAEDA in SYRIA etc etc and still you believe him. There is no help for you if you still don’t get it.
Have a nice day!

stubbikins
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Really? your answer is to spew a bunch of random words in all caps?! HA HA HA HA HA

Thanks for making yourself look even crazier than you already did! You have confirmed your own ignorance and added and extra pile of nutballs!

“you have become redundant, repetitive and ridiculous and reverted to boring nonsense.” You are the expert at that apparently! see above comment for evidence.

marylou
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You lose all credibility when you don’t understand that caps are used for those who can’t hear or digest a thought unless you yell at them…like you, for instance!

Good grief…your vocabulary is so minuscule that now you are borrowing mine…at least you used quotes and gave me the credit…not your usual practice! You’re learning!

stubbikins
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Lets have a summary of this conversation.

Stubbikins: Stock markets are at record highs

marylou: You lie!

Stubbikins: No, it is basic fact, prove me wrong.

marylou: BENGHAZI! DEATHPANELS! MUSLIMS!

marylou
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You went so far off topic you fell off the legendary ledge

You are not only a chauvinist but also a control freak!

Now you are trying to control my comments?

No way will that ever happen little man!

stubbikins
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Please explain how I am chauvinist. Keep in mind that you do not know what gender I am.

I am merely asking you to prove that I am a liar because you called me a liar.

marylou
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“There you go again”
(I’m quoting Pres. Reagan…..please note the quotes!
Unlike you, I always give credit when I use another’s words).

You have to stop challenging my word usage!
You mostly come up on the short end of the stick!

chauvinist |ˈ sh ōvənist|
noun
a person displaying aggressive or exaggerated patriotism.
• a person displaying excessive or prejudiced loyalty or support for a particular cause, group, or gender
adjective
showing or relating to such excessive or prejudiced support or loyalty

You don’t have to be a specific gender to be a chauvinist!

Do you get it yet? Don’t answer, just please run along!

stubbikins
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Stop calling me a liar while being unable to address any of the so called lies.

stubbikins
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OMG you get funnier and funnier! Thus I laugh at you IN ALL CAPS.

I see that you missed the entire point of the comment and did not eve see that you were insulted. poor child. You are in 3rd grade at a what Bible school? Tell me all about How Jesus rode the dinosaurs…

marylou
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You are really losing it. Whew!

Why are you going off topic to disrespect Christians who haven’t been the subject anywhere, by anyone on this post?

stubbikins
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Wow, again when you are mocked, it flies right over your tiny little head.

Why can’t you post a single thing to disprove the facts I posted? It has been two days and you still can’t debunk anything I said. Why do you go around calling people liars when they have not lied?

Please do name a “non liberal” school that is not a Christian school.

marylou
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Okay…my husband doesn’t think you are funny any more!
I would have dumped you days ago, but you made him laugh!

Those who criticize other religions….
Posters who deal in character assassination….
Dishonest people who plagiarize….
Control freaks and chauvinists

All of the above (and you match 4 for 4) are not worthy of my valuable time. No offense! Do have a nice day.

stubbikins
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So you still can’t actually address the facts that you said I was lying about? Again, the post with the information about the smelt was sourced. Why do you keep claiming otherwise? I never once claimed it was my own writing an you are the only person claiming I did so. I will put the source into that exact post for you sinse it is so hard for you to read another comment in teh thread. “Those who criticize other religions….” SO you have never once said anything unkind about muslims, athiests and Jews?? I find that hard to believe.… Read more »
marylou
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You refuse to get it.
My husband doesn’t think you are funny any more!
I would have dumped you days ago, but you made him laugh!

He’s not laughing any more…
I don’t answer to control freaks who demand answers that they were already given. Using material that is not yours, out of context and not crediting it, is not only plagiarism, but also deceitful, dishonest and therefore lying!

I loathe repetitious, redundant and ridiculous nonsense!

Go ahead. I’ll let you have the last comment..because it’s a given! Have at it!

stubbikins
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Since you were so worried about them not getting the proper credit (even though it was credited in the thread) I never once claimed the article about Delta Smelt to be my own. Now this thread makes you look like and even bigger i d i o t . Congrats. “Using material that is not yours” That is how proving facts works. See what you do is you post evidence that supports your point of view. You should try it sometime. For instance, try proving any of the facts I stated wrong. “Stock market up, jobs rebounding, housing market up,… Read more »
marylou
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..

stubbikins
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For instance, try proving any of the facts I stated wrong.

“Stock market up, jobs rebounding, housing market up, violent crime rates down, number of wars down..”

You have not addressed a single one of these.

Still waiting.

stubbikins
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You never answered anything, you screamed Benghazi and a couple other random right wing scripts.

“I loathe repetitious, redundant and ridiculous nonsense!”

Then you shouldn’t reread your own comments.

You still claiming that stock market is not up, the housing market is not up, and the Iraq war ended?

stubbikins
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So again you cannot disprove any of the facts I listed. Thanks for proving my point!

Metalmoto
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Wah wah wah….how does this picture disgrace Obama. The big ears? Well, he has them does’nt he? The gap tooth grin? He’s got that too. The freckles? Got ’em. The hair looks just like his. So how does this disgrace him? The Alfred E. Neumann “What, me worry?” Slogan? Sorry. But that’s his attitude. You can’t disgrace someone who has no grace. The only disgrace in Washington is Obama and the liberal mindset that you obviously have.

Pam
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He does not need help in disgrace, Obozo has that well in hand. And Pete, blind devotion is something that even Jesus Christ did not demand. God gave you a mind and common sense. Use it or get kicked out with Adam and Eve.

Marcy James
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Please.

jt4
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Bad is not far off. QE3 + infinity will collapse the dollar, giving plenty to concerns ourselves with.

rebel yell
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Yes, and the lib’s out here in CA have also shut off vast portions of the coastline and the Channel Islands to recreational fishing with the MLPA (marine life protection act), stopped planting rainbow trout in many reservoirs (afraid the non-native species will eat the endangered red legged frog) and stopped planting any trout except triploids (triploids cannot reproduce) in many of the remaining reservoirs as they are fearful that “fertile” trout may reproduce with a non existent steelhead population in southern CA, even though these reservoirs have no streams or rivers leading out to the ocean. The trout can’t… Read more »
stubbikins
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You are upset that they are preserving the ecosystems and it interferes with your recreational fishing?

rebel yell
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Go back to hugging trees and LGBT’s and Illegal Aliens. You won’t look at facts or science and it’s useless to debate you. Then enjoy the benefits of fossil fuel travel while you scream Global Warming

stubbikins
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Science shows that pesticides are destroying the water system in central CA. Why do you pretend it is not happening? I looked at the science, you are the one ignoring it.

I drive a VERY efficient car and would prefer public transportation, but it is not available where I live because Republicans refuse to expand it.

Who do you think the farm workers are that this article is complaining about? hint: illegal aliens.

marylou
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You almost can’t write a comment without blaming the Republicans for something…you are an Obamabot troll!

stubbikins
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So you still can’t prove a single thing I said wrong??

marylou
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The proof is in the pudding…
Step away from your arrogance and try observation as opposed to copying and pasting ancient history that you usually neglect to credit to those whose work you are stealing…to try to pretend you are knowledgeable…Epic fail!

stubbikins
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So you still cannot prove a single thing I said is not true… yet you call them lies?

How are current stock and housing markets “ancient history?”

rebel yell
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And by the way, how much is CA spending on that high speed rail/train system? Over 10 BILLION and growing? When the state is in dire financial straits? You are so full of demoCrap, it’s funny…

stubbikins
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High speed rail increases tourism and profits, reduces road wear and improves infrastructure.

Speaking of ignoring facts, why do you ignore the fact that since a Democrat became governor they have balanced their budget?

marylou
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See…there you go again….blaming!

stubbikins
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Did you even read the comment you are replying to?

marylou
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Of course …though your drivel gets more boring and asinine the more you pontificate. Get over yourself..and give us a rest.
You must be a paid troll considering the amount of time you have to devote to your computer and spew nonsense on every subject!

stubbikins
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You shouldn’t use words you do not understand.

marylou
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I NEVER ever use a word of which I don’t know the meaning, pronunciation and definitions….contrary to you… who plagiarize other peoples words and thoughts with incessant copying and pasting. We all learned that in kindergarten!

I was NOT educated in liberal schools, like you….therefore, we were well-versed in the english language and its nuances…and instructed that words are powerful weapons for good or evil…and to use them wisely..because there would always be those who would try to manipulate your thoughts and words! Recognize anyone you know?
Don’t bother answering…just go away!

stubbikins
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The citation is listed above. You would know that if you read.

LOL, you are so educated you still cannot prove a single thing I have said to be wrong even though you called them lies?

“Don’t bother answering…just go away!” Are you actually crossing your arms and stomping your feet when you write that?

marylou
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You are clearly an Obamabot troll and play follow the leader.

Too cute and predictable!

You plagiarize and lie and anyone who reads your posts of course knows that……. you copy and paste, use others thoughts and words out of context, and mostly never credit anyone….you know..quotes….footnotes… etc etc

Chauvinistic tactics are a liberal trademark.
I haven’t stomped my feet since I was two and BTW it would be impossible to type with my arms crossed! Really?
You’re getting rattled again….reverting to drivel and nonsense and no cogent reply.

stubbikins
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Here, I will copy and paste the citation from earlier in the thread: http://www.biologicaldiversity

Next time try reading… and staying on topic.

stubbikins
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So by posting facts that you cannot deny or rebut… I am an Obamabot? I beg you, TELL ME WHAT LIE I TOLD. You called me a liar. PROVE IT. Other than stating basic facts about stock markets I have said nothing about Obama. Again, you keep claiming I steal when the source is in the thread. I am copying and pasting your words in order to respond to them so you can see which sentence I am replying to. That is how the internet works. “I haven’t stomped my feet since I was two and BTW it would be… Read more »
marylou
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Your pontification is hysterically funny!
Character assassination makes a fool out of you!
I can’t help it if you plagiarized.
Don’t blame me for your faulty character traits….do like Obama does…blame Bush!

stubbikins
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Where did I blame Bush?

I have told you multiple times that the source is in here, yet you keep lying.

When will you stay on topic and and prove anything I said was a lie as you claimed?

Oh I know! Because you can’t. Because what I said was true. And instead of admitting it you scream random talking points and lie again.

marylou
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Your comment:
“Where did I blame Bush?”

My comment:
“Don’t blame me for your faulty character traits….do like Obama does…blame Bush!”

You have reading comprehension issues. Please read my comment again… slowly, this time!!

stubbikins
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You imply that I “do like Obama does” and blamed Bush…. I never did.

Quoting your own false accusation only confirms that you made a baseless accusation.

marylou
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You do have reading comprehension issues, despite your educational portfolio…or you don’t bother to read before you reply.

No, I did not imply that you “do like Obama does” . I suggested that you should blame all your issues on Bush..like Obama does.
Do you get it yet!

stubbikins
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” I suggested that you should blame all your issues on Bush..like Obama does.”

I have no issues.

Are you referring to Obama saying that Bush was President when the economy crashed or to him saying Bush started the war in Iraq?

Which one of these did not happen?

rebel yell
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Oh really? Read this article from Forbes. It exposes the balanced budget of CA farce and makes a nice little mention of Gerry’s pet “legacy” project, the high speed rail project you love so much. Read it and weep fool: http://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasdelbeccaro/2013/07/08/jerry-brown-stands-atop-californias-collapsing-house-of-cards/

stubbikins
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HA HA HA HA HA your “proof” is right wing propaganda? HA HA HA HA HA HA

rebel yell
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Balanced budget? Well, it’s not. Why not read this article in Forbes (it addresses you precious “rail system” too). You are a fool, but maybe, just maybe you’ll read this and learn something…http://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasdelbeccaro/2013/07/08/jerry-brown-stands-atop-californias-collapsing-house-of-cards/

rebel yell
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Really? That weed you smoke must be some really good weed. You must eat mushrooms and do acid as well, your brain cell count is WAY down, and the remaining live cells are greatly affected.

stubbikins
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Thanks again for confirming that you are a complete nutball!!

stubbikins
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LOL, thanks for proving that you cannot be bothered to look up facts.

rebel yell
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Typical liberal, DEFLECTING! The pesticide “problem” you speak about has nothing to do with the delta smelt in the article, nor MLPA or trout/steelhead I was speaking of. Your illegal alien reference is COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT, the article is speaking of, and I quote “FARMERS” (you know, the people that OWN THE LAND/farming operation?) NOT Cesar Chavez’s beloved migrant farm workers. Changing the focus of the subject is what you lib’s are all about. Your points have NOTHING to do with what I said nor what was stated in the article, NOTHING! You should move, and support a community that has… Read more »
stubbikins
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So now science and facts are “deflecting”? “The tiny delta smelt is one of the best indicators of environmental conditions in the San Francisco Bay-Delta, an ecologically important estuary that is a major hub for California’s water system — and an ecosystem that is now rapidly unraveling. The “smeltdown in the Delta,” as the extinction trajectory of delta smelt is known, has left the once-abundant species in critical condition due to record-high water diversions, pollutants, and harmful nonnative species that thrive in the degraded Delta habitat. This smelt’s catastrophic decline is a warning that we may lose other native Delta… Read more »
rebel yell
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Your little propaganda piece is from an organization called “The Center for Biological Diversity. A radical, left wing org that is worse and more dangerous than PETA. For those of you that would like to “browse” their site, it’s easy to see what their agenda is, and it’s a doozy! Here:http://www.biologicaldiversity.org/species/fish/Delta_smelt/ They are anything but unbiased. I’ve spoken to DFG biologists PERSONALLY and they agree the whole (delta smelt) thing is a radical, left wing driven farce. Nothing has been proven that is stated as fact in their propaganda piece, NOTHING.

rebel yell
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Why don’t you provide the link? Well, guess what hippie. It’s from “The Center for Biological Diversity”. I have to laugh. It’s a left wing, peta supporting organization that is akin to those nuts that chain themselves to oak trees. They have an agenda alright. The article from their site you posted is liberal drivel. If they had their way, there would be no fishing, hunting, commercial farming etc. You and they are a farce. Oh, btw, that “non-native species” that are destroying the delta smelt? It’s the striped bass and travels from the OCEAN (where it lives most of… Read more »
stubbikins
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oh so you are too stupid to spend 3 seconds on google?

The agenda is not to destroy the water table and ecosystem. The non native species are things like trout that are stocked for weekend fishermen.

Again you prove that you cannot be bothered to actually look up anything before ranting like a lunatic.

PS, PETA is not an environmental group, they are animal rights. When trying to badmouth non profits at least stay on the same topic.

rebel yell
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PETA is against fishing (just like your environmental groups). of any kind. They go so far as handing out coloring books that call fish “sea kitten” to small children to pollute their young minds that fish are cuddly and have feelings. It’s sick really, just like you.

stubbikins
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You not liking PETA does not change the fact that you are just making crap up and naming random things you think are evil that are actually not involved in anyway in this issue. On the plus side you are doing a great job of showing yourself, and the right wing to be lying nutcases who want to destroy the planet and poison the water. And the funny part is, you will not make a penny of it, you are supporting it all so some billionaire can take money out of your pocket.

D. Lenore Hutchens
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Thanks stubby, I needed a chuckle this morning and your babble did the trick. I want to destroy the planet and poison the water huh? I didn’t realize I had so much power. Next you’ll accuse me of wanting to kill old people by cutting funding for medicare . . oh wait, obamacare did that. Or setting up death panels that decide who gets medical treatment. Oh crap, obamacare again.
And rebel can freely give his time and money to whom he pleases, unlike the obamacare tax.

stubbikins
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HA HA HA HA death panels!!!! You morons still haul out that myth!?!?!

D. Lenore Hutchens
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OK, it’s technically called the “independent payment advisory board”. A group of Sebelius and Obama appointees who will decide who gets medical treatment and who does not. Us nutcases just nicknamed it “death panels” because the all caring government will make medical decisions for you.

stubbikins
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A: Insurance companies have always had panels that decide what is paid for. always. A panel decides benefits for all medical coverage, how else would those decisions be made, by one person?!?!

B: When Palin brought out her death panel lie, she referred to the medicare coverage of a non medical doctor’s consultation with people in old age or who have a terminal illness, so that people can discuss end of life choices with a medical professional and that doctor can be paid for their time. Again, NOT A DEATH PANEL.

marylou
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If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck..it’s a DEATH PANEL!

stubbikins
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There are no death panels. Again you fail to read.

marylou
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Blah, blah, blah…..you are still redundant, repetitious and ridiculous etc etc etc. And yes, I read your nonsense above…oh pontificator- who thinks he knows all………..since that’s what you ask when you have no cogent reply1! If the government decides to withhold RX, MRI, Surgery, Medication etc etc etc without your consent,..and you die…guess what…..you are dead = DEATH PANEL. Don’t bother trying to explain it six different ways.. or trying to muddy the waters with Insurance gibberish. if I withhold RX and I die it’s my choice! RIP If the government withholds RX against my wishes and I die, that’s… Read more »
stubbikins
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“If the government decides to withhold RX, MRI, Surgery, Medication etc etc etc… without your consent,..and you die…guess what…..you are dead = DEATH PANEL.” The government would only decide whether to pay for it… like insurance companies have been doing for decades. Do you think that people on Medicare should get every single test and drug they want with no limits in cost? You want your tax dollars paying for that? “There is an appeals process!” You think you have lawyers that are as skilled as those of the insurance companies? You obviously have never been seriously ill…. well. except… Read more »
marylou
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Awww…be nice…….try not to be nasty. You don’t get it…I don’t want the GOVERNMENT deciding ANYTHING to do with my health care…like Obama says,… period!!! Why would anyone in their right mind want turn over their health care and decisions about RX etc to newly hired non medical IRS agents? They’d just stall making a decision (like they did with Conservative organizations and tax status)and you’d die waiting…problem solved!! When the Govt, decides to withhold RX because you are fat, or drink wine, or smoke, or don’t exercise, or drink big slurpies…when they control your health care, they control your… Read more »
stubbikins
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I get that you want to use all your talking points.

But you still have not said a SINGLE thing that proves me wrong.

“Why would anyone in their right mind want turn over their health care and decisions about RX etc to newly hired non medical IRS agents? ”

No such thing is a part of any law. The only thing the insurer can do is refuse to pay for something.

“Germans trusted Hitler and look how that turned out!”

Godwin’s Law. look it up, you have officially lost the argument.

D. Lenore Hutchens
Guest

“non medical doctor”. do you mean psychiatrist?

The bottom line is a bunch of government officials will make choices for you instead of you and your family. If your private insurance company doesn’t pay for something, there are other ways to pay.

stubbikins
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Non medical refers to the consultation you m o r o n. It means that if you get alzheimers you can talk to a doctor about planning for what happens when you start pooping in your pants and walking around the neighborhood naked. It means that you can decide, before your brain is pudding, what treatments you will want. Your ignorance is ASTOUNDING. The government has nothing to do with deciding what procedures you choose, they only decide what MEDICARE covers, namely, what the government pays for with government coverage. That is EXACTLY THE SAME THING AS WHAT INSURANCE COMPANIES… Read more »
D. Lenore Hutchens
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Read your own post. You used the term “non medical doctor’s consultation”.

What is a non medical doctor? Consultation with whom then?
For you information the only sign I have is an impeach obama.

Shame on your ugly description of people with alzheimers. You’re disgusting.

stubbikins
Guest
yes, which means it is a non medical consultation WITH A DOCTOR. Shame on you for trying to remove a much needed benefit for people with alzheimers. You obviously have never been close to someone who has it, my description is exactly what the disease does to people, which is WHY THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO PLAN THEIR END OF LIFE WITH A DOCTOR. It is a cruel disease, and people pretending otherwise cause years of pain and anguish to the sufferers of it who cannot plan for what will happen. We begged for doctors to talk to us… Read more »
D. Lenore Hutchens
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So now you changed your original wording. OK, a non medical consultation with a medical doctor. How to die. There probably is some medical advice thrown in there. Even if it’s just a prescription of some sorts. Sounds like you’ve experienced first hand an alzheimers patient. I’m sorry a doctor would not talk to you without government approval. Think that was bad, here comes obamacare. Why would you assume I would want a picture of obama? the people I know can read english. and the best you can come up with is racism? that’s all you have because his communist… Read more »
stubbikins
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No, I clarified the wording because you lack reading comprehension. You seriously do not understand why people want to speak with a medical doctor about the progression of their fatal illness?? Who do you ask about your illness, the cashier at a grocery store? There are different ways to die, decision to be made, Would you rather make them yourself based on facts, or let whatever random person standing near you change you diaper or pick out a nursing home for you based on on how it effects their inheritance? The doctor could not make an appointment when the doctor… Read more »
rebel yell
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Here you go jack ass, the PETA sea kitten link. http://features.peta.org/PETASeaKittens/ They deem it “ingenious” to get “kids to think twice when eating fish sticks”. Sicko’s, just like you. BTW I am VERY involved. SAC member, BASS member, attended MLPA meetings and voiced my opinion (but they wouldn’t here me, biologists, CA Game and Fish reps, and many other well educated experts as their agenda was un-bendable), attend my local lakes MWD meetings (they’ve adopted a few of my suggestions re weed control/abatement while protecting spawning fish),deploying fish habit (when water levels are low, fish have a place to go)… Read more »
stubbikins
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PETA does not want people to eat animals… so what. They have always said that.

You are complaining that experts ignored your wish to poison the waterways? really?

rebel yell
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Once again you are an idiot. Where did I say I ever “wished” to poisen the waterways?

stubbikins
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The entire issue with the smelt is that the waterways are full of pesticides. You oppose preserving the ecosystem. If you support the article you are commenting on then you support more farmers having more access and adding more poison. It really is not complicated

rebel yell
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Didn’t “make up” a thing. You sure do and let the radical “save the earth” orgs do the talking for you. Like The Center for Biological Diversity. A suggestion: try researching sources OTHER than those that fit you little “save the earth” agenda, as well as op ed pieces in different publications when stating “Brown balanced the budget” before stating these shams you support are truth. You are a sheep, incapable of forming an original thought.

stubbikins
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“your little “save the earth” agenda,”

What other planet do we have to live on?

greatjoy
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We are under attack from within. Agenda 21 is being brought in small pieces so that it’s difficult to locate. Read bills. Don’t just pass budgets without studying carefully what has been included.

Joe
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I’ve really lost all faith in America. Complacency fueled by the mainstream media (read that “Ministry of Propaganda”) And professional voters that are satisfied with voting for anyone who will give them hand-outs and not require them to go and find a job… America has lost it’s way. Constant attacks on the Constitution and an Illegal healthcare law that was deemed legal by the so-called supreme court… you know, the ones who don’t apply the law to a given situation, but rather legislate from the bench instead. I thought the Constitution was the supreme law of the land? Meaning EVERYONE… Read more »
greatjoy
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How do we re-discover how to govern ourselves, so that we can again self-govern? We are looking for someone else to step up. Without God’s people in govt we will have people who are not God’s people. When Christians could become PCPs and run the Republican party, but instead all become independents and just watch from the sidelines until November when they don’t even vote, APATHY toward self-governance is what is leaving the door wide open to those who have an agenda to “change” our country. Ben Franklin was not being light when he said “We have given you a… Read more »
KellyKAFIR
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I highly recommend the Center for Self Governance out of Tennessee!! Well worth the time and money!! They will come to your state!

Danny
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The country and systems are fine…but the people have forgotten the God that gave it all to them and are now …”doing what seems right in their own eyes.” HINT: The way of death.

Shaun Salvetta
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I can’t agree more. Having lived in ‘Crazyfornia’ most of my life, I can tell you that the ‘delta smelt’ thing is just another day in the asylum here. Maybe when all those activists begin to fear for their own food supply because, well, they demanded the life of some fish over food to feed millions, well maybe then Americans will sit up and pay attention. I was just thinking to myself today that the stark contrast in the posts on FB between myself and my friends and family, well it is amazing at the least. While I am posting… Read more »
hibp
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Keep spreading the truth Shaun, sometimes it actually sinks in. Thanks

greatjoy
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Are we beginning to understand The Little Red Hen story and not feel compelled to change the ending?

KellyKAFIR
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MY FAVORITE story as a child!! Loved it so much I used it in a speech in college!

paul singh
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Gotta love them delta smelt for keeping us informed about what truly matters.

Pam
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Man and nature has collided. Wild life has been managed in this country for quite some time now. I hate seeing a species go extinct but if it is us or them I think people are going to have to change their views.

annarondac
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The Delta Smelt are only found in California but are not an endangered species, determined by science, but by an “opinion”. This is over reaching by the environmentalists who consider an opinion over the lives and careers of farmers in this rich, fertile country.

rebel yell
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Here’s that little tree hugging sissy “stubbikins” source of his delta smelt article he cut and pasted http://www.biologicaldiversity.org/ It’s a radical left wing entity, that passes fantasy on as fact, just like ole’ ”stubby”. The article can be found on their site. Liberal’s, passing on fantasy as fact for decades…

stubbikins
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you think anything that disagrees with you is “radical left” you made that decision without even reading the link or the article.

The issue is that the smelt had a sudden die out in a complex ecosystem due to pollution. You would know that is you actually read about the issue.

what difference does it mak
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what difference does it mak

Isn’t this just environmental pressure on species to evolve or die out? Aren’t you an evolutionist? Biodiversity is an oxymoron for evolutionist, their chief premise “survival of the fittest” runs against the idea of biodiversity, should be Bioconcentration

stubbikins
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The tiny delta smelt is one of the best indicators of environmental conditions in the San Francisco Bay-Delta, an ecologically important estuary that is a major hub for California’s water system — and an ecosystem that is now rapidly unraveling. The “smeltdown in the Delta,” as the extinction trajectory of delta smelt is known, has left the once-abundant species in critical condition due to record-high water diversions, pollutants, and harmful nonnative species that thrive in the degraded Delta habitat. This smelt’s catastrophic decline is a warning that we may lose other native Delta fish that have fallen to alarmingly low… Read more »
marylou
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If you paid as much attention to the welfare of the human species as you do a ‘smelt”……………
Your priorities are skewed!

stubbikins
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You think people can live without water?

marylou
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Please don’t show your stupidity with inanity!

stubbikins
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LOL

hibp
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Too long

marylou
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Too boring…if we wanted to know….or cared a whit…. we would look it up online and copy and paste……as he did without giving credit…plagiarism?

stubbikins
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It was cited in another thread. Maybe you should actually read what you are commenting on.

marylou
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Your favorite comment when you have no cogent reply is to insinuate that your drivel was not read…how quaint!

You did NOT credit the author…you stole his words and ideas without crediting…you do it all the time!

stubbikins
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No, your nonsensical off topic comments show that.

what difference does it make
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what difference does it make

Hey but isn’t something even like a pollution a way for survival of the fittest? Environmental pressure for species to adapt or die off?

stubbikins
Guest

Sure, take some cyanide and see how well you adapt to it.

Murder is not adaptation.

rebel yell
Guest

So true. The ruling was made due to the “possibility” that “some” smelt may be killed during water releases. That was it, the “possibility” that “some”…The things procreate faster than lightning.

marylou
Guest

Will wonders ever cease, I concur…..your observation is right on!

Michael Bowen
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Col .West …Sir Please move to OK we will give you the respect you have earned. and i will help you win a Sen seat here .can’t give much money i am a DAV last tour in Iraq did not go as planed but i can go door to door .this Country needs you in DC

Dan
Guest

Don’t let West fool you!! He’s just another Progressive. And, either stupid, or a liar!! He is (pro) NDAA. And (claims) we are protected under Posse Comitatus. GW Bush did (away) w/ Posse Comitatus protection (Oct. 2006); hence, either a liar or stupid. Being a Spec. Ops Officer…I know he’s not stupid! You form your own conclusion!

John Bush
Guest

I like my delta smelt fried.

KellyKAFIR
Guest

It’s gonna get REALLY bad!

greatjoy
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Ever since the Democrats set up a system that made it profitable for environmentalists to sue the Federal govt and then charge the Federal govt for their “expenses” in filing the suit, it’s difficult to believe any of the results of the suits. This multi-million dollar occupation is lucrative and they file suits with allegations designed to see which judge they can get to decide in their favor–not establish in court what is true. Truth is a very low value in this process. If they win in court they make progress with Agenda 21 (an agenda developed from the Biodiversity… Read more »
greatjoy
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These environmentalists closed down timber harvest in Oregon by suing about the demise of the spotted owl, which they claimed could only nest in old growth forests. After 20 some years of scientific study on this claim, it’s apparent that another owl has it in for the spotted. They will nest anywhere. The environmentalists now want to go out and kill the other owl. They have set themselves up as the only ones that “care” about the environment. But they create disaster for everyone through these suits, which lock us into policy that isn’t based on reason. In the meantime,… Read more »
greatjoy
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Margaret Sanger, (D) and KKK member had an idea. She wanted the night riders to stop night exploits and become society shapers. She believed that it would be more effective to create conditions in society in which black people would choose to kill other black people. She called this idea THE NEGRO PROJECT. Once you understand the Negro Project, you can see evidence that it is still being implemented. Restriction of gun ownership means that only criminal blacks have guns. Not reporting when it is black on black crime. Schools that always require more money, but never get better–policies that… Read more »
USARetired
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It is impossible for protests to accomplish much when over 50 percent of America are lazy ‘Sports minded couch potatoes’ an the rest are ‘federal food trough recipients!

marylou
Guest

BINGO…..thank you!